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Bob

6:01 PM

!!say test

John Cavil

@Bob test

Bob

@JohnCavil Could not process input. Error: assignment to undeclared variable coolnessFlag on line 734

whoops

!!say test

@Bob test

!!say sleep

@Bob sleep

6:03 PM

@JohnCavil NO

YES

PERFECT

actually, would be better if it did message-reply

but close enough

Bon Gart

... so... you want the bot to be able to tell you to sleep, and just incase you actually have fallen asleep at the keyboard, you want your account to automatically reject the notion of being told to go to sleep?

Bob

@BonGart no

@Gowtham and @somequixotic were replying to every message from me, telling me to sleep

so, I've just adapted the bot to be an autoresponder

I was just using @JohnCavil to test

to specific messages

@BonGart pretty much

@bob go to sleep

6:08 PM

@jokerdino NO

:D

Bon Gart

@bob get me coffee

jokerdino

@bob wake up from sleep

Bob

@jokerdino NO

...

-_-

on second thought, you're just going to abuse this bot now

jokerdino

@bob stop ogling at that pretty girl and go to sleep

Bon Gart

I had to test it

Bob

6:08 PM

@jokerdino NO

@BonGart it's a pretty specific regex

Bon Gart

I was guessing as much

I see the number of edits for review is climbing rapidly... is there a tag cleanup in progress?

Bob

yea

actually, I think it just finished

server

!!say sleep

John Cavil

@Bob sleep

Bob

@JohnCavil NO

yay, directreply works

@somequixotic should be a fairly simple change to get it to default to direct replies

Boris_yo

3

Sathya

6:23 PM

I have half a mind to move all the bot testing messages to the recycle bin

Bob

lol

@Sathya that's nothing compared to the playing with @JohnCavil above :P

jokerdino

@Sathya you should probably do that.

Bob

!!info s

John Cavil

@Bob Command s does not exist. Did you mean: /, !

Bob

!!help s

:\

somequixotic

6:37 PM

@Bob sleep

Bob

@somequixotic NO

somequixotic

!!say !!cowsay hi

John Cavil

@somequixotic !!cowsay hi

somequixotic

!!say Bob sleep

John Cavil

@somequixotic Bob sleep

somequixotic

6:40 PM

@Bob sleep

Bob

@somequixotic NO

somequixotic

@Bob is it true that the sleep function in C causes the current thread of execution to yield control to the operating system for a specified length of time?

Bob

@somequixotic NO

...stop trying to break it D:

jokerdino

@Bob you should just go to sleep goddarnit

Bob

@jokerdino NO

your pings are damn loud

Bon Gart

6:43 PM

sigh

@somequixotic lolwut

@BonGart yes, sigh

!!gimme a PS3

@ThatBrazilianGuy That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

jokerdino

@somequixotic You just had to write that up to mess with Bob's 'correct everything that is marginally inaccurate' disorder, didnt you?

John Cavil

6:45 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

somequixotic

@jokerdino no, I wrote it to be as accurate as humanly possible while still having the word "sleep", so his automatic responder would respond NO

jokerdino

37 mins ago, by jokerdino

@bob stop ogling at that pretty girl and go to sleep

somequixotic

@Bob is it true that there exists at least one human being (homo sapiens sapiens), that has ever existed, that has gone to sleep for at least 1 picosecond during their life?

Bob

@jokerdino NO

@somequixotic NO

somequixotic

@Bob is it true that human beings dream while they sleep?

Bob

6:46 PM

@somequixotic NO

...at this rate, I should modify it to swear at people

2

jokerdino

@Bob Would you still say no if you are in sleep?

Bob

@jokerdino NO

John Cavil

@Calin Welcome to Root Access chat for Super Users! Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.

somequixotic

@Bob doing anything but sleeping is going directly against the doctor's orders

Bob

@somequixotic NO

Calin

6:48 PM

Hello, Could I find out the attachement size limit from the email header?

jokerdino

@Bob wait, are you stemming or what?

Bob

@jokerdino ?

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob is it true that whenever anyone says sleep you say NO?

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy NO

jokerdino

@Bob sleep, sleeping and stuff?

Bob

6:48 PM

@jokerdino NO

@Calin size limit depends on both the sending and receiving party

jokerdino

at this rate, Bob will hit the spam limit.

Bob

no thanks to you guys

Darth Android

@Bob ?

Bob

@DarthAndroid they're breaking my autoresponder

jokerdino

@Bob just go to sleep already.

Bob

6:50 PM

@jokerdino NO

malicious people that they are

and forcing me to stay awake to fix it

Darth Android

@Bob do you want to get some sleep tonight?

Bob

@DarthAndroid NO

oh fuck off

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob should modify it so whenever anyone says "NO" it says "go to sleep".

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy NO

Darth Android

:)

jokerdino

6:50 PM

@Bob there we have it. No sleep for you Bob.

Bob

@jokerdino NO

Darth Android

Sorry. I got my one auto-response, I'm done.

Bob

@DarthAndroid What for?

Darth Android

I wish I could star whole sections of chat transcript.

5

jokerdino

we can bookmark and celebrate it for eternity

Bob

6:52 PM

there we go.

that should fix it

somequixotic

@jokerdino unless soulless, humorless people who came out of the womb with a grumpy cat expression on their face recycle all our messages -_-

jokerdino

@ThatBrazilianGuy Hm, that should be John's role.

@bob where's the stop code?

That Brazilian Guy

@jokerdino We can get @somequixotic to modify @JohnCavil so it says ~~slee~~ you-know-what when @Bob says NO

Bob

@jokerdino NO

@ThatBrazilianGuy NO

o.O

jokerdino

stop!

Bob

6:54 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy NO

John Cavil

HAMMERTIME!

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob But... but I... I don't even...

Bob

ok, that "fix" broke it D:

jokerdino

stop responding to stop and just go to sleep.

Bob

@jokerdino you go to sleep

That Brazilian Guy

6:55 PM

Sleep the sleep of the just

jokerdino

oh yeah.

@Bob I forgot ^_^

It's just 12.30 AM

That Brazilian Guy

Go to Sleep

}} "Go to Sleep" is a song by the English rock band Radiohead, released as the second single from their sixth album Hail to the Thief in 2003. The alternate title for the song as listed on the track listing for the album is Little Man Being Erased. A number twelve hit in the UK, it also reached number thirty-nine on the Australian ARIA Charts. Musical structure "Go to Sleep" starts in 10/4 (4/4 + 6/4) with an acoustic guitar riff written by Ed O'Brien but played by Thom Yorke. After 11 bars of guitar and vocals, the rest of the band comes in. In the second half of the song the time sig...

Darth Android

Yeah, that's like early afternoon

jokerdino

and i have a rainy day off tomorrow..

Calin

@Bob I send from Yahoo. But in the other side, the email server deny the email with the message : 552 5.3.4 Message size exceeds fixed maximum message size. And I have an attachement with email header.

Bob

6:56 PM

@Calin it's recommended to not send attachements greater than 5 MB or so

I think most systems accept 10 now, but it's not nearly a sure thing

don't email large files

somequixotic

you can send 1 GB attachments in gmail to gmail

jokerdino

yeah, put it on torrents. xD

somequixotic

lol

Bob

@somequixotic not directly

through drive, et al., sure

Darth Android

dropbox is how the cool kids send large files these days

right click -> copy link is best invention ever

Bob

6:57 PM

don't forget that email attachments have a 33% overhead

Calin

Thank you all. I will try to find a solution. To make a smaller archive that contains all files, or to put them on dropbox, drive or copy.

jokerdino

You should probably just drive to the recipient's home with a USB.

!! xkcd 949

John Cavil

Every time you email a file to yourself so you can pull it up on your friend's laptop, Tim Berners-Lee sheds a single tear.

Bon Gart

@Calin you might be able to do an end run around it, by going to the domain the email is hosted at, and seeing if they detail what attachment sizes are limited to

Bob

...

I got the power button to open the power dialog

which doesn't have a hibernate option

ffs

why

why must this be so ridiculously difficult

jokerdino

7:04 PM

Chronic sleep deficiency. That's why.

Bon Gart

@Bob because you are probably in need of a nap

the long variety

Bob

...

could you guys stop?

it's getting old, fast

Bon Gart

@Bob hey, I tried NOT to activate the autoresponder

Bob

@BonGart I've turned it off...

jokerdino

See, when people don't have enough sleep, they lose temper fast. >_>

Bob

7:05 PM

@jokerdino I lost my temper early this morning over completely unrelated matters, then decided to take a day-long break and went back to sleep.

jokerdino

Anyway, I think I am going to attempt writing a novel this november.

Bon Gart

@jokerdino about what?

jokerdino

@BonGart nanowrimo.org

Ideas are still brewing.

Bob

The completely unrelated matter having a lot to do with telemarketers and me sitting on a toilet. And running around looking for the phone.

Bon Gart

@jokerdino you are going to write a novel about someone writing a novel for a National Novel Writing Month contest?

Bob

7:07 PM

wow

bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33839

> Mandrake RPMs Linux

Kwaio

I can't find a satisfying backup software. either it's not delta copy enabled, or it has poor features

jokerdino

@BonGart Nah, that's an idea for next year.

Bob

@BonGart yes, because that hasn't been done to death -_-

somequixotic

@BonGart are you going to write a novel about someone writing a novel for a National Novel Writing Month contest about strategies for making Bob sleep?

jokerdino

The ideas for this year's novel are still brewing.

Bob

7:08 PM

@Kwaio anything with support for incremental backups do 'delta copies'

@somequixotic seriously. stop.

John Cavil

HAMMERTIME!

somequixotic

stop

Bob

I've only been awake for approx 12 hours. Not that any of you need to know that.

somequixotic

@Bob so you slept through school all day yesterday and woke up at 5pm ?

jokerdino

Hm, I woke up at 6 AM because they said today was a holiday.

Bob

7:09 PM

@somequixotic What school yesterday?

,

somequixotic

nocturnalbob should definitely be your domain name

Kwaio

@Bob I tried SyncBack, but it does not do incremental,sends full files if changed

Now to try Deltacopy which seems poor in features

somequixotic

superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/147396

jokerdino

username test..

somequixotic

> extra full stops

cracks me up

more glaring is that someone approved it

jokerdino

7:13 PM

that someone approved the edit?

somequixotic

i wonder if user 253298 and user 174557 have the same IP

Kwaio

7:24 PM

Lol this software website is rsync.net but it doesn't support rsync protocol

Bon Gart

@Kwaio that's just wrong.... or something I'd expect from Microsoft

Sammy

7:39 PM

is it possible to disconnect from an unmapped UNC using GUI in Vista?

Darth Android

doesn't it disconnect automatically at some point?

Bon Gart

@Sammy you get your ICS sorted? Did you follow the registry edit to change the IP range it would use?

Sammy

@DarthAndroid i think it does, but you have to log off, or, maybe sometimes even reboot... that seems tedious for such a simple task

Darth Android

I presume because you want to connect with different credentials?

Sammy

@BonGart no, i haven't and no, i didn't follow that guide, it seemed too complicated, and my first mistake was that i was setting ICS for the wrong Ethernet card, i was should have set ICS for the Ethernet card that has Internet access, which is my wireless WLAN

@BonGart however, i did try that later on, but i think i somehow managed to screw up that service or something, because when i try to enable ICS for the WLAN i get a strange error message and i can't get past that now

Bon Gart

7:46 PM

@Sammy what's the error message? Or don't you want to get into that now

Sammy

7:58 PM

@BonGart i don't remember what the error message. but i think it was something critical, there was the nice little yellow triangle with exclamation mark in it! :) the message was only a few words long, but i can't remember what it said... i just clicked away... i attempted three times and then gave up

NewProgrammerJames

Does anyone here use a Galaxy S4 and have the WiFi issues that can be read about everywhere? I have read that the issue is with AES encryption and to use TKIP. I have tried this and it hasn't solved my problem. Just wondering if anyone has any other ideas

Sammy

@BonGart i'll let you know if and when i give ICS a second chance

Darth Android

Don't use TKIP

might as well turn encryption off if you're using TKIP

Sammy

AES > TKIP ;)

NewProgrammerJames

I agree, but my S4 does not stay connected to my network... in either scenario. I am back with AES, any ideas on what else to check?

Sammy

8:02 PM

@DarthAndroid just look how simple it is to disconnect from any UNC in XP

this will bring up a dialog box where you can pick and choose what UNC you want to disconnect from, be it mapped or unmapped

the way you can do this in Vista is by using "net use" command

"net use /delete \\192.1.68.0.120\c$" for instance

or as with the example in the image, "net use /delete \\\\sesfs\farrell"

that's too many back slashes, correct: "net use /delete \\sesfs\farrell"

so i was wondering if you can do this graphically in Vista, just like you do in XP?

Kwaio

Oh actually net use /delete doesn't always work you sometimes have to close your session

@NewProgrammerJames I haven't heard about that. any country-specific model ?

NewProgrammerJames

I've got the US AT&T model SGH-1337i I think

Sammy

@Kwaio do you know how to see active sessions and close sessions in cmd?

NewProgrammerJames

if you search for it, it seems that most of the problems are with people who have D-Link Wireless Routers, I do not have that, I have a CISCO WAP4410... so it makes me think there is a specific setting I'm not trying

Kwaio

@Sammy net use /?? i'm really windows-ignorant

@NewProgrammerJames Oh wifi works fine without tuning here sorry

NewProgrammerJames

8:10 PM

@Kwaio Where is here?

Sammy

@Kwaio never mind, i found it

Kwaio

@NewProgrammerJames rench GT-i19505 with ISP's router

Sammy

@Kwaio "net session" to view sessions and "net session \\ComputerName /delete" to close session

Kwaio

@Sammy Noting that thanks

Sammy

@Kwaio @DarthAndroid FWIW, i have found a way to disconnect from UNC using GUI in Vista, the same "Disconnect Network Drives" dialog box is available in Vista as in XP, but it is very well hidden... not very intuitive IMHO

Kwaio

8:20 PM

@Sammy you're talking about Microsoft software, you're surprised ?

Darth Android

@Sammy You can just right-click on Computer in windows explorer

Sammy

Darth Android

or in the start menu just above the network link

and actually

it's in the exact same place as XP as well

Tools > Disconnect network drive

Sammy

interesting...

Darth Android

the catch is the menubar doesn't show by default (at least on Windows 7)

so you have to hit alt to make it appear

Sammy

8:22 PM

well, i'm used to going to Tools menu and then the Disconnect network drive option

Darth Android

That option is available

Sammy

i'll make note of that. thanks!

no need to use cmd and net command no more :)

Darth Android

:)

somequixotic

looks like @Bob finally went to sleep :D

Sammy

@DarthAndroid meanwhile... i've found another way to close a network session on Windows... just run "fsmgmt.msc" and you can close sessions from there, and also see available shares (on the local machine)

Darth Android

8:29 PM

@Sammy Oh, nice! I've needed something like that before

Sammy

yeah, a lot of these "msc" snap-in applets come in handy, i actually keep a list of those i find useful, but i didn't know about this one... it's available in XP as well, so that's a plus

Oliver Salzburg

It's actually linked in the Computer Management

Psycogeek

google.com/… No Hard disk, not heavy duty :-) Not a HD synonym

somequixotic

never seen that snapin before and i've been using windows as a power user / light duty sysadmin for many many years

Jesus F. Christenson, so many edit reviews to churn through, so little time @_@

Psycogeek

Same search different engine duckduckgo.com/?q=hard+disk+suspension+assembly See, you can do it to google :-)

50-3

8:39 PM

@Darth you can right click computer > manage. Then System tools > Shared folders.

@Sammy you can use a command like "net use g: \delete" to disconnect as well

somequixotic

yippee, I get Domino's pizza tonight

(as if I need the carb load lol)

Darth Android

@somequixotic I'm sorry. :(

somequixotic

@DarthAndroid I actually love their pizza, something about the spices they use on the crust, it's literally addictive

50-3

@Darth Probably should have searched up -_- joined the convo about half an hour to late

Darth Android

Heh, oddly enough it's the garlic crust that I hate :P

somequixotic

8:41 PM

the only thing I don't love is the carb load on my body

Psycogeek

from Silent pc

I am wondering if i can toss together something like this instead of buying more Bay adapters for 3.5 drives

50-3

Trying to workout if this is clever or Tech support gore....

I could just see a drive slipping around and platter reads suffering - if it didn't scratch the platter

Psycogeek

The elastic they are using is nylon covered, which can assist when the rubber turns back into nature and breaks. but that means it could have sliding potential. Verses a gripping rubber.

50-3

What happens when the starts to get warm? wouldn't it start to stretch?

Psycogeek

@50-3 yes really quiet drive if it comes loose or a (major) shock has it bouncing to Hit the frame, vrses being locked down on the frame , and the impact of the moving drive (ahh cant even say it right) When the bungee jumper , hits the rocks under the bridge

DragonLord

8:54 PM

My Linode VPS went down for 1h15m due to a software fault on the host server that required a host reboot.

It's now up and running, and support was very fast and helpful on this one.

50-3

@Psycogeek best quote of my day "When the bungee jumper , hits the rocks under the bridge"

DragonLord

I started to suspect an issue when I was unable to reach the server via SSH and the out-of-band Lish shell was acting odd.

At the end of the downtime, I was credited $5 for the SLA violation (the downtime was more than 0.1% per month, or 45 minutes).

I still have faith in Linode and the generous credit shows that they take their customers seriously.

I suspect this was nothing more than a one-off malfunction.

50-3

Can a tag be flagged? someone has used {usb-flash-drive} then decided to abbreviate it and create a tag {ufd}... I mean if you absolutely must {usbfd} would have been better....

0

Q: How can I make DBAN bootable from UFD?

I want to make DBAN bootable from a UFD (USB Flash Drive). I have the ISO image (dban-2.2.7_i586.iso) and I am using a tool called Rufus (rufus_v1.3.4.exe). I first tried using the default settings. It didn't work. It gets stuck at "Verifying DMI Pool Data". The keyboard cursor is blinking but i...

Psycogeek

@DragonLord that did not take long, how was the soft installing going. (gotta toss the words paid hosts in there everyonce in a while, so people like me know what your referring to)

@DragonLord The puter that your on is shared right? so any one of them could have "caused" it ?

DragonLord

@Psycogeek I suspect the underlying hypervisor malfunctioned.

@Psycogeek I started from an openSUSE 12.1 image and ran a distribution upgrade to 12.3. The system's running well and I have a functioning LAMP stack, although I'm currently just using it for a web development class. I won't be putting my personal website on it just yet.

somequixotic

9:01 PM

@DragonLord pretty cool

they can probably transfer you to a different box if it keeps happening

they might just throw that box in the trash (proverbially) if it doesn't shape up

DragonLord

@somequixotic I agree. They'll probably just take down the host and move my Linode to another one.

@50-3 Flag the question for moderator attention, stating that you need the tags merged. You can't flag a tag directly.

somequixotic

I've had the opposite experience: with Hetzner I've never had a single hardware fault or network fault in over 8 years of service, despite upgrading 3 or 4 times to a new box

opposite as in, I'm running dedicated instead of VPS, and I haven't had any outages, while you are running a VPS and had an outage after a very short time of renting one

I have had, however, software faults, all of them due to my own incompetence... and I guess you can still screw yourself over with a VPS :P

Linode doesn't oversell though so as far as VPS is concerned they're one of the better ones

nothing worse than an oversold VPS

DragonLord

@somequixotic Linode provides a Finnix-based rescue image and an out-of-band shell for that.

somequixotic

@DragonLord Hetzner provides a remote KVM-over-IP, but if you don't want to pay, it's time limited (if there is a queue of people waiting to use them, you're limited to 2 hours, but if there aren't people waiting to use them, you can potentially keep it for up to a week as long as you continue to express your need for it)

pretty reasonable policy overall

they also have a rescue image and the usage on that is unlimited

usually when I can't access my box, step 1 is to order an automatic hardware reset (free and instantaneous reboot of the physical box using the power switch), then tell it to PXE boot to the rescue environment and try to figure it out... if I'm totally stumped, I'll order a KVM-over-IP (the free, time-limited one) and watch it boot from the console and see what error I get, then try to resolve it and bring up SSH and networking

fortunately they keep the rescue environment updated so it can mount your boot and/or root filesystem for your examination

DragonLord

@somequixotic: The out-of-band shell provided does go straight to the server's main console. It's not restricted the way your provider does, though. The shell also allows booting up and shutting down the machine.

I suppose you have similar functionality from your KVM-over-IP.

somequixotic

9:12 PM

@DragonLord yep, and you can even load an arbitrary operating system ISO or mount a remote filesystem from a local disk drive to install just about any OS

the thing of it is, with physical servers, if you want KVM-over-IP, you end up paying for it one way or another, because they have to have a separate, physical device networked to the internet and connected to the computer, which uses up rack space and a public IP address

DragonLord

@somequixotic Linode doesn't allow arbitrary disk images, though.

somequixotic

no physical server host lets you have a truly free KVM-over-IP, although some have it included in the price (that just means your monthly price is higher)

with a VPS it's easier to have an unlimited usage remote console at no added cost because the hypervisor already has access to the console of the virtual environment without needing to connect up any hardware or IPs

but I have yet to find a virtualized server environment of any type (VPS, container, cloud hosting, whatever) that's cheaper per-resource (RAM, HDD, CPU, bandwidth, etc) than a dedicated box

VPS always ends up costing more if you want more than, say, 256 MB RAM, and on the high end a VPS is downright stupid compared to even an expensive dedicated server

Amazon EC2, Windows Azure, Linode, etc. are all hugely expensive for >= 4 GB RAM or >= 500 GB HDD compared to just renting a dedicated server

and I don't mean budget dedicated, either

hell, Softlayer is cheaper than Linode at 8 GB RAM

and Softlayer is the most expensive provider there is, as far as I can tell

DragonLord

9:29 PM

Where Linode is more generous is in the amount of processing power and bandwidth provided. On the 8 GB plan, the outgoing bandwidth quota is 16 TB per month. All plans offer 8 processor cores; more expensive plans simply share the cores with fewer users (or get more CPU time relative to others), offering greater, more predictable processing power when under heavy load.

Each host has two Intel Xeon E5-2670 Sandy Bridge-EP processors, offering a total of 16 cores plus hyper-threading. An average of 40 Linode 1GB VMs share a physical host.

Note that each physical server only hosts Linodes of the same plan type.

The Xeon E5-2670 runs at 2.6 GHz, so in the worst case, you would only get the equivalent of 1.04 GHz aggregate speed (130 MHz per core). It's incredibly rare for everyone to be using all of the CPU time available, though. Even this worst-case performance is reasonable for what you're paying ($20 per month) given the generous bandwidth and disk space limits.

somequixotic

@DragonLord Hetzner's most basic, cheapest dedicated server comes with 20 TB per month and a quad core CPU with hyperthreading

to me it seems awfully optimistic to think that nobody'll be using any CPU on your server and that you'll be able to use a lot of it, unless you get the top tier (x8 or x16 priority) plans... realistically, there are a lot of VPSes out there running CPU-intensive workloads like opensimulator, minecraft, bitcoin, game servers, etc.

at the low end level you'd only get 1/16th of 8 cores, or about 1 dedicated core worth of power (though in practice spread across all the cores at low priority) if the CPU is saturated, with occasional bursts higher if your neighbors aren't pegging their allotment

compare that to getting a dedicated (no neighbors, no latency hit from potential saturation) i7-4770 for about $53 USD per month, with 32 GB of RAM

so for a price point in between the Linode 2GB and the Linode 4GB (leaning toward the price of the 2GB moreso than the 4GB), you can get roughly half the compute performance of a Linode 16GB node, with over four times as much disk space, the same amount of monthly transfer, and twice the RAM, with a cost that's six times cheaper than a Linode 16GB.

that's value.

or for about 2.6 times cheaper than the Linode 16 GB, you can get a dedicated from Hetzner with a 6-core CPU with hyperthreading (so, 12 hardware threads), 30 TB of bandwidth, four times the RAM of the Linode 16GB, and over six times the storage.

DragonLord

9:52 PM

@somequixotic: I definitely understand that for greater demands, a dedicated server makes more sense.

somequixotic

finally, for around the same price as the Linode 16GB node, you can get dedicated Dual Xeon E5-2620 (just marginally slower than Dual Xeon E5-2670 like Linode) with eight times the RAM, two and a half times the bandwidth, a hardware RAID controller, 24/7 included KVM-over-IP, ... although you have to pay extra for your HDD(s). XD

@DragonLord yeah so basically the only Linode nodes that make sense to me to even attempt to sell are the the 1GB and 2GB nodes.

anyone who buys more than the 2GB node is just throwing money down the drain.

Hetzner also sells VPSes, and their cheapest one is about $2/month more than Linode's 1GB, but you get twice the RAM... however I believe the general consensus is that Hetzner's VPSes tend to have saturated CPUs, so you really don't get more than the minimum allocated CPU almost ever, so that's a tradeoff

this actually seems similar in price/features to the Linode 1GB node, except that it's a little bit cheaper: hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_vserver/vq12

DragonLord

10:18 PM

From what I can tell with CPU graphs and benchmarks, it seems Linode's CPUs are not overly saturated. I was able to get about 3/8 of the full performance of the CPU.

Sammy

@BonGart i tried ICS again, the error message i get is "error occurred while ICS was being enabled"

Bon Gart

@Sammy silly question... is it still enabled on the other adapter?

@Sammy and do you still have any of the adapters manually set to an IP address on that vista machine?

Sammy

you mean if the NIC is enabled on the XP machine?

@BonGart
XP: LAN enabled, set manually to 192.168.0.120
Vista: LAN 1 enabled, set to auto, WLAN enabled and set to auto

Psycogeek

@Sammy he means in windows you can only have One ICS nic. if you try an enable it on the other one it will, , , drive you crasy :-)

Bon Gart

@Sammy nono... at one point you had right clicked on one of the LAN adapters on the Vista box, and enabled ICS... you realized that mistake. Did you disable it before you enabled it on the WLAN? Yeah... what @Psychogeek said

@Sammy and just to let you know, after I sent you that link from Microsoft about how to change the IP address used by ICS, I went diving into my own registry (and one on an XP laptop here) just to see what was involved... and it looks worse than it seems. Not pushing, just letting you know it's not that bad if you decide to go that route.

support.microsoft.com/kb/230148

brb gonna ingest a coffin nail

Sammy

10:27 PM

@Psycogeek it's only enabled on one of them, that would be the WLAN connection

@BonGart i have disabled ICS for LAN 1 and LAN 2, so that checkbox is only on WLAN connection now

Psycogeek

10:39 PM

@Sammy and the wlan is the "internet" right (if i remember right) that set up that connection point to be "shared" with other computers that are on the "home" lan. I have to mentally seperate the one inteconnection system (inranet) with the other, stuff that goes outside my realm (internet). then ICS sets up a (non-bridge NAT) style of bridge to the other.

Bon Gart

@Psycogeek Essentially yes. It creates a second gateway out of the designated LAN adapter, assigns it the gateway address at the bottom of the IP range defined in the registry, and then routes all internet requests connected to it to the WLAN

Sammy

@Psycogeek yes, WLAN is the "internet" and the XP machine is connected to LAN 1 connection (on the Vista machine)

i checked, i am completely missing "Hkey_Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\ICSharing"

is this normal?

@BonGart so the fact that this is a WLAN connection to internet should not matter at all?

Bon Gart

@Sammy Nope. In fact, sharing a WLAN connection via ICS is the most common.

@Sammy scroll further down in that Microsoft article. The section just below states what you would do for a Windows 7 machine, which should apply to Vista as well.

which means "HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\services\SharedAccess\Parameters " that's what you should have

Sammy

@BonGart yes, i do have that key

Bon Gart

@Sammy you know that your WLAN gets an IP address on 192.168.0.xxx, so if the default parameter in the Shared Access registry key is also a 192.168.0.1, you'd need to change that to 192.168.1.1.... or even 192.168.130.1

Scope Address and Scope Address Backup

Sammy

10:49 PM

Wireless LAN adapter Anslutning WLAN:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::e51e:3576:19cc:716f%11
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.103
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

so yes, WLAN get's connected to 192.168.0.1 which is the router, and the IP it gets is 192.168.0.103

i only have to change the ScopeAddress?

Bon Gart

I'd change both ScopeAddress and ScopeAddressbackup

Sammy

i don't have the StandaloneDhcpAddress...

do i need it?

Bon Gart

That's even better

Nope

Change both ScopeAddress and the backup to the same IP address... and make it something radically higher... like 192.168.120.1

Sammy

so i will try 192.168.1.1 then

ok, we can say 192.168.120.1 then

Bon Gart

Yep

Sammy

10:55 PM

ok, they are both set to 192.168.120.1 now

now i do the ICS on WLAN?...

do i have to set IP to auto on the XP machine?

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hexafraction

Hi, I've got some problems with a home-operated server that I inherited from a professional context, namely with the disk controller. Should I ask here or would I have better luck on ServerFault?

somequixotic

@hexafraction home server? probably here

depends on how big of a server though

$hexafraction$

hexafraction

"how big a server" Inherited from a school, pretty powerful enterprise machine.

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