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8:04 PM
Off to call things into existence by uttering new names:
Rosa que al prado, encarnada,
te ostentas presuntuosa
de grana y carmín bañada:
campa lozana y gustosa;
pero no, que siendo hermosa
también serás desdichada.
 
@Tonepoet I would call that use a...misunderstanding of its actual meaning.
An error, almost.
 
I think that's just rubbing in the impermanence.
 
@Cerberus What do you think about the C.D.C's definition then?
 
@Tonepoet I don't know what C.D.C. is, but those definitions look good: a cohort is a group.
 
The CDC prepares America for zombies
 
8:12 PM
@Cerberus Oh, if that's your objection, keep in mind when I said N. Webster's definition, I meant this one and not the other ones I linked before. You might cringe at the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language Fifth Edition's usage notes though.
 
That one is perfectly fine!
The other one seemed like...someone who didn't know what the word really meant and was just trying to use a fancy word, confusing it with consort or perhaps companion, colleague.
@Tonepoet I cringe indeed.
Especially at the order of the words.
 
I think the A.H.D. ranks by popular usage. I also think it's a metaphor for a certain sort of militaristic support, hence the derogatory connotations.
 
@Tonepoet Don't they all try to rank by popularity?
 
@Helmar Some rank by date of origination.
Most rank by popularity though.
 
@Tonepoet There will be a lot of correlation
 
8:19 PM
If you're aiming at a basic level of English, popularity can be useful.
But the strands of derivation are useful for anyone.
 
@Cerberus Those strands might not be purely along the timeline
 
Hey
 
I think the way most people use a dictionary is "I either want to use a word in this context, or somebody already did. Is it valid? Oh, it's under the dictionary entry so it must be."
 
@Helmar Indeed not.
They are more useful than chronology only.
But per strand it should be chronological.
 
@Tonepoet More importantly, "it isn't, I was right!" ;)
 
8:23 PM
@Tonepoet It is easier to understand and remember the meanings of a word if you understand the conexions between them.
 
@Helmar That resembles me. =P
 
:D
 
@Cerberus Perhaps, but I doubt you pay as much attention to that with Dutch, or at least if you do, the other people around you do not. Is that a fair assumption?
Come to think of it, I am not certain enough about your current geographic location to know what language the people currently around you speak.
 
Underworld people speak Hebrew.
 
@DEAD When did they stop speaking Greek?
 
8:31 PM
Yesterday
 
@Tonepoet No? Should it be?
Dead should know.
 
@DEAD That must be a fascinating story.
 
Yeah, a meta drama
 
@DEAD Did they learn Hebrew in a day?
 
Yes. We're that good.
Also Google translate leaked to the underworld
 
8:34 PM
@DEAD That should make some hilarious conversations xD
 
That's irrelevant
As long as we sound cool doing it
 
Always important
 
@Cerberus P.O.B. V. 2 C.
 
Would you find it inappropriate if a textbook had model answers on the side that were called "Golden Nuggets"? Or would you rather just have them called "Model Answers"?
 
@Turbo What age group is the textbook written for?
 
8:42 PM
@Tonepoet GCSE so 14-16 year olds
I'm looking for something that's not too cheesy, while remaining professional
 
Orange nuggets
 
:)
 
:) nuggets?
 
I prefer the word exemplary over model
 
@Turbo Part of this depends on how other textbooks are where you live.
Where I live, textbooks contain funny ugly fonts but stick to the point.
 
8:44 PM
@DEAD Most of them are to the point, as you said
 
Kids from today will get hungry if you write about nuggets ;)
 
:) Heh heh
Also I'm wondering if teachers would refrain from using material that can't strike a balance between cheesy and professional...
 
@Helmar Nah, the kids these days, they play their pokamanz so they'll be wondering how to sell 'em off for 5,000 yen.
 
Golden Nuggets no no no no.
 
@Turbo Only the better ones
 
8:47 PM
Thanks @everyone you've confirmed I was opting for a cheesy marketing style :)
 
Cheesy due to nuggets
 
Turbo the real answer will heavily depend on how the market is where you live.
 
I'm in the UK
 
Nugget is an awful word.
Nougat on the other hand.
 
What about "Golden Dust"?
 
8:48 PM
Somewhere on the Stack Exchange network, there is somebody who regrets choosing the username "everyone".
 
There are some books here that contain material that people need to buy, no matter how shitty their writers write them.
 
"Words of Wisdom"
"Examples"
"Examples of Wisdom"
"Applied Awesome"
 
Words of wisdom and nuggets sound too advisory to be in the place of the noun.
 
What's this for again?
 
Nuggets of wisdom!
 
8:49 PM
"Model answers"
 
@Tonepoet Well, they won't be since they won't be pinged unless they came here during the past seven days
 
@Helmar I assumed that was what the "Golden Nuggets" referred to.
@Tonepoet "Awesome Answers" would be catchy without being too cheesy.
 
@KitZ.Fox That sounds much better... I'm ashamed to come up with such strange combinations :/
 
Sure, but it wasn't spelled out
 
Well. In the US.
 
8:50 PM
@KitZ.Fox Are the answers frightening? =P
 
@Tonepoet No. They will leave you speechless though.
 
@Tonepoet They will paralyze you.
 
"Top Those Tips!"?
 
Being mute and paralyzed sounds frightening enough to be considered awesomely terrific to me
 
@Turbo Well, are they tips, or answers?
Maybe even they're DEAD.
 
8:52 PM
Paradigm solution
 
Spiffy Solutions.
 
@DEAD There are tips and there are model answers...
 
Snazzy Solutions.
Top Tips.
 
Slazzy Solutions
 
That one is good because "tip top".
 
8:53 PM
 
Epic Answer
 
Thanks for the help, I think I've got a good idea what to and not to include now :D
 
Top Snazzy Tip Solutions
 
It has a nice alternating touch
 
I was kidding
 
8:58 PM
I didn't say it makes sense ;)
But it can be abbreviated with tsts
 
o/
google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=o%2F+meaning Funny it's nowhere to be found
https://www.gofuckingwork.com/?lang=en-US
If any of you are looking for a confrontational way to stop procrastinating on Youtube, then here it is :P
 
@Turbo Oh, you've reminded me. I need to go procrastinate on Youtube!
 
@Tonepoet Good luck, I have an excellent recommendation!:
 
@Turbo Ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch.
 
It is by far the easiest way to procrastinate :)
 
9:07 PM
@Tonepoet Don't use abbreviations with me, I'm really bad at abbreviations.
No idea what that means.
 
@Cerberus Primarily Opinion Based Vote 2 Close.
 
@Cerberus What about the BBC?
 
vomits
 
you should, bbc is tear gas
 
RT
 
9:10 PM
What's wrong with the Babeling Broadcast Corporation?
 
TYT?
Oh come on... Where's the taste?
 
@Cerberus DUAWM: IRBAA.
 
@Cerberus That was just about the reaction I was hoping to receive. I'm hoping to dissuade people from using that close reason, subconsciously. =P
 
 
@tchrist ignore
@Tonepoet Good.
 
9:29 PM
@KitZ.Fox "when I come back you'll know, know, know"
...and I'm back
@KitZ.Fox Nougat also terrible but for other reasons. What is it? THat's the primary reason. I don't know what it is. If you said it's highly processed, whipped, frothed high glucose corn syrup, That's like telling me I'm made of 206 bones, 600+ muscles, a coupla eyes thrown in and in between stuff. What the H is Nougat?!!
 
@Mitch it's confectionery.
 
@Mitch Nougat is the fleshy bits of the creature we make Naugahide from.
2
 
NO U GAT
 
what's left after the knacker extracts the sausage and glue
 
@Mitch Keep it clean.
 
9:36 PM
@Turbo Absolutely "model answers".
Use plain language unless you're sure your embellishments will be appreciated.
 
@MattE.Эллен My beef with this (to uncomfortably mix metaphors and split infinitives) is that the comercials say 'covered in nuts (OK, comes from trees), creamy chocolate (I'm sure there's a chocolate mine somewhere) caramel (one of the important stages in sugar cooking) and then with a nougat (WTH is that) center.
 
@Cerberus So unromantic classical language, not baroque language let alone rococo language or Roman language.
 
It's the only place in the world where 'nougat' is mentioned Ever.
 
@tchrist To the extent that people appreciate rococo, it is good.
 
It's a hapax legomenon of all candy bar commercials ever.
 
9:38 PM
@Mitch Are we talking about beef or sweets? I'm confused.
 
Hah!
 
@tchrist Said the bishop to the parishioner.
 
@Mitch I only know this phrase thanks to University Challenge :-P
 
@Randal'Thor Wait, those are different?
 
@Mitch oh, I thought you meant nougat.
not whatever is in a Snickers
 
9:40 PM
@Randal'Thor my job here is done.
 
@Mitch Bye, Gandalf.
 
@tchrist I'm a vegetarian. I wouldn't know.
 
@Randal'Thor Sweet beef
 
@MattE.Эллен Wait, I thought I did too.
 
Hi everyone. Care to comment on this somewhat awkward sentence?
> Let me know your travel plans and approximate planned times of check
in and check out as soon as you can.
 
9:40 PM
@MattE.Эллен I thought the stuff in a snickers is called 'nougat'.
'creamy' if that helps
 
@Randal'Thor specifically you would. if it's the same as beef, you wouldn't eat it
 
@DEAD So that's where the word "sweetmeats" comes from! :-D
 
Holy sweetmeat
 
@FaheemMitha gets the point across
 
9:41 PM
@Mitch oh it is, but I don't know how it relates to nougat
 
@Mitch Good enough, you think?
 
@Mitch Bleh.
 
@FaheemMitha I'd hyphenate check-in and check-out
 
9:42 PM
 
@DEAD Is there a standard for that?
 
No, but mere guidelines
 
@Randal'Thor To diabetic vejjiterrans, they are the same.
 
Has anyone been getting this too?
For some users, but not all.
Refreshing the browser doesn't help.
 
Guidelines that you're expected to follow actually, unless it's one of the less clear cases.
 
9:43 PM
Does @c ping all the people?
 
@Cerberus aren't you supposed to get that?
 
@Cerberus Yes, it's a known bug and has been reported on main meta.
@tchrist No, you need three letters to ping.
 
@Mitch Notice the different icons.
@Randal'Thor Ahhh OK! It's new, isn't it?
 
Oooohhhhhh.
 
@tch tch, you should know this ;-)
 
9:44 PM
 
@Cerberus Yes, less than a week old and already with several dupes.
 
OK, thanks!
You're well informed.
 
@DEAD Ok. So, in this case, a hyphen is better?
 
@Randal'Thor My real login is 𐌸𐍇𐍂𐌹𐍃𐍄 but SE is rupted.
 
Is this sentence correct? "As a note that I've gotten it recently"
 
9:47 PM
@FaheemMitha Yep, since your words aren't phrasal verbs there.
 
gotten = learned (I mean)
 
@Shafizadeh It's not a sentence.
 
@DEAD Ok. I learn a new word every time I come here. Tonight it's phrasal.
 
@DEAD Yeah ... it's actually a pre-sentence
 
@Shafizadeh I wouldn't have realized that that was what you'd meant out of context.
 
9:48 PM
@Cerberus Actually I expected you to know about this already, being such an active chatter and all.
@tchrist You ELUers and your non-Latin-character usernames :-o
 
@Randal'Thor Well, one only notices when one addresses someone without using the reply button.
I rarely do that.
 
@tchrist Here is my full context:
> As a note I've gotten it recently, it's a convention to capitlize His, Him, etc when referring to Diety in many religions.
 
@Randal'Thor 𝕿𝖍𝖆𝖙❜𝖘 𝕲𝖔𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖈❕❕❕
 
No, Gothic bold
 
@Randal'Thor I believe it began as an act of non-violent resistance to Jeff Atwood.
 
9:50 PM
@tchrist OK, but not everyone's are Gothic. Mr Shiny, Reg, Matt, ...
@Cerberus I was reading yesterday about some of the past drama on ELU. Jesus effing Christ, I feel for you guys. Makes SFF's last election look like a kids' playground.
 
@Randal'Thor Oh, which drama, exactly? The one from 2011?
And what happened with SFF's election?
 
@Randal'Thor Cui bono?
 
@tchrist Y̟̥̬̥͎̝̠͔̤̓̈́͒̑͐̉͗͋͂͑͜i̳̼͈̹̰͈̼̬̺̦̐̋̀͋̀͆̈́̚͘̚k̢̛̖̘̫̰͉̟̗̪̜̔͂̾̊̇͐́̚̕é̱̞̘̘̗̼̆̄̎̍͌͗̇͑͠‌​̮͈͕̭ş̛̯̞͉̩̝̹̖͈͐͂̔̑̈́̈́͛͘͜͝!̜̮̟͖̰̖͙͓̰͈̀͊̏̿͋̎͆́̓̕
@Cerberus Yeah, I just found out about the whole Jeff/Kosmo thing in 2011. And I already knew about the chat fallout last year. Is there even MOAR drama comparable to those?
translate: Cui bono?
(from Italian) Cui bono?
 
Do you really have to ask an idiot bot that kens nought when Cerb and I are here?
 
9:56 PM
Be careful where you point that thing.
 

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