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7:00 AM
@TrentHawkins no. WE MUST HAVE ALL THE TAGS
 
@KevinvanderVelden ADD EVERY GAME THAT USES THE SOURCE ENGINE!
 
@5pike GO DEEPER. ADD EVERY GAME EVER
 
7:13 AM
@KevinvanderVelden ALSO ADD ALL GAME SERVICES AND ALL OTHER THINGS. THEN START META TAGGING.
 
@KevinvanderVelden that would be pretty meta.
In an unrelated note: morning is terrible and should not exist.
 
@Arperum Morning is a necessary evil.
 
@5pike At the very least allow me to sleep through it.
 
7:29 AM
Agreed, by the definition of morning they are required, but why do we have to be conscious =[
 
@KevinvanderVelden Especially if you end up in your bed around 2AM >_> and then lay awake until 2:40AM...
 
That's no good
What distracted you today? :)
 
@KevinvanderVelden The end of it was clicker heroes... After going out for a bit...
 
@Arperum aah clicker heroes, I've been successful at ignoring that so far
 
@KevinvanderVelden I've been playing for a while now.
From back in the 30 bonus souls at lvl 120 times.
 
7:37 AM
@KevinvanderVelden Same, though the constant talking about it makes me curious.
 
@5pike yeah, but then I found out it doesn't do what swarmsim does ("run" when your PC is off) and it went back on the ignore pile
 
@KevinvanderVelden I'm not going to keep my pc running for an idle game.
Though, I could start it on my home server... Whatever
 
@5pike exactly, hence it going back on the ignore pile
 
@KevinvanderVelden You do keep getting gold even if you turn the game off.
 
@Arperum really? Huh
 
7:41 AM
@KevinvanderVelden Yup, you even get a message how much gold you got exactly when you launch it again.
And you can change the gold amount notation to scientific instead of the default. It's a lot clearer that way.
 
@KevinvanderVelden old
@fredley posted it yesterday
 
@5pike well I wasn't here yesterday
 
 
@Chippies Will he be trialed as a black person or a white person?
 
8:06 AM
> Tyler’s neighbors were not familiar with the family dynamics of the home, and decided to call the police to report a burglary when they saw the young man entering his home after school one day.
 
@Blem or maybe as a police officer?
@5pike "OMG THERE'S A BLACK TEENAGER IN OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD, HIDE UNDER THE TABLE WHILE I CALL THE COPS!" ?
I imagine that's at least partially how it went
 
Does it state how long he lived there?
Because it doesn't seem like that they adopted him just a few days ago.
 
@5pike someone in the comments mentioned they had recently moved in, source - some video (was there one in article though?)
oh yes, a video
 
> 18-year-old DeShawn Currie has been living with foster parents Ricky and Stacy Tyler in Wake County, North Carolina for about a year.
Fuck you random extra copy pastecrap that is added by sites.
 
@Arperum Alright, I'm calling a racist motive of the neighbours.
 
8:12 AM
they moved in their current neighbourhood in july
 
> DeShawn did not climb through a window or struggle to get inside, but simply walked through the unlocked door of the home. The only thing that actually made his neighbors suspicious, was the color of his skin.
Indeed.
 
which is still plenty of time to notice there's a black kid living in the neighbourhood
 
No coworker, 12 degrees celsius is not a nice temperature to open the window to
 
@KevinvanderVelden depends on if you have a heater on or not.
in Latvia, we had centralized heating, so we had no control over when it was on or off, so we had windows open pretty much all winter even when it was below 0 celsius outside :P
and by all winter I mean few hours a day
I should really go to sleep...
 
@Chippies we have centralized heating, but each heating element has a knob to turn it off (i.e. if the central thing is off the entire thing is off, but you can turn individual ones off and on)
 
8:17 AM
@Chippies A friend of mine had his door open every waking moment, and his heating off, it was still warm
 
@KevinvanderVelden but you still have to pay same amount, regardless if you turn the heat down or not
 
Also, latvia's winters are about 10 degrees colder than hollands winters
 
His PC doubled as heating...
 
may as well let some fresh air in, if you're not saving money :P
 
@Chippies that is not how it works, one window letting in air is not offset by a simple heater
 
8:19 AM
@Arperum I used to have my desk next to PC and I used to turn it on before getting out of bed so it wouldn't be so cold
 
Especially considering the windows are single pane uninsulated
 
Morn
 
@KevinvanderVelden if it's not warm and stuffy, you probably shouldn't be opening a window
 
@Chippies you should definitely not be opening a window as the first thing you do when you enter the room
"Hey, these other people sure look comfy at this temperature, I know! Let's make it much colder!"
 
@KevinvanderVelden depends if the air is hot and stuffy (I guess hot and humid = stuffy)
but if there are other people in the room, you probably should at least ask
 
8:21 AM
@Chippies that is my main problem
Especially considering he knows he always feels warm
 
my mother would always come in my room, say we should let some fresh air in, open the window and go back to the other room... while I stayed in the room freezing
 
At which point you immediately close the bloody window again?
 
@KevinvanderVelden if she closed the door, yeah
 
@KevinvanderVelden But that requires you to get up again...
 
otherwise she'd notice and tell me something
 
8:23 AM
@Chippies and then you say, well I'm here, you're not?
 
@Chippies At which I would reply: but it's to damn cold if I leave it open.
 
@KevinvanderVelden @Arperum have either of you ever talked some sense into your mothers?
she would still return within an hour and open the damn window :P
 
Mothers simply know better. ;)
 
@Chippies Yup, my mom can be sensed. Not always, but it happens.
 
the silly part is that the heater in other room is twice as big, so clearly it gets warmer in there and I'm pretty sure she judges my room by what she feels in the other room
annnnnnyways... it seems that Europeans are waking up... that is my cue to go to sleep!
good night!
 
8:26 AM
@Chippies "waking up" I've been up for more hours then I like.
As in: 2.5 hours.
 
@Arperum it's 6am here, so...
@Arperum go back to sleep!
 
@Chippies I can't. Work :(
 
@Arperum Boo!
 
@Chippies When do you work?
 
@Arperum I don't, I'm on holidays for undetermined amount of time
yay Canadian government and their application processing times :P
I'm at the moment, officially, a visitor in Canada
applied for permanent resident status through family sponsorship last october
maybe, just maybe, might hear something back in december...
 
8:30 AM
uh WTF
really guys ?
Of all the reasons to close that question "not a game" is the bottom of that list!
 
Haven't seen/read or voted on that question.
 
@Wardy there was quite a long discussion here about that much earlier today (or yesterday, depending on where you're from)
 
I just got in to the office (i was asleep when this went on)
 
only one person was really arguing that it's not a game, so, I wouldn't be worried about it that much
 
what was the outcome ?
 
8:33 AM
outcome was quite a bit of drama, with gamedev chat members involved :P
 
I still think it was a dumb question (meant to be a social joke) but closing the question because its "not a game"
 
16 hours ago, by Frank
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Q: How do I play @Almo's Pick a number game?

WardyThe rules are sooo complex .... He says I have to pick a number that noone else picks but I don't know what numbers other people picked so it's really confusing. Any ideas? Links: Almo's Profile The Game Prototype

 
that was lol
 
@Unionhawk THE LAST WORD OUT OF YOUR MOUTH WILL BE "HATS", AND IT WILL BE LOUD.
 
@Wardy was that the primary reason listed though?
 
8:33 AM
Start reading at that point, read the next hour or maybe even two of chat.
 
ROFL
 
8:46 AM
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Q: Do I have to repay for Minecraft on PS4?

ogregoireI bought Minecraft some time ago on PC. Now I see it's available on the PS Store for PS4, but I seem to have to pay 20 € to get it. Can't I just use my Mojang account to play it on the PS4?

 
@Chippies primary reason listed as "off topic because: not about a video game"
seems pretty straightforward to me :)
I also saw the follow up discussion / questions that came out of it
very amusing :)
 
@Wardy I wouldn't call that "amusing"
 
in Game Development, 5 mins ago, by badp
At any rate, now that you're caught up, I'd appreciate it if you didn't bring it up again, at least not on the Bridge, mmkay?
in Game Development, 3 mins ago, by badp
because as I've already shown to you, it's a heated and irrelevant debate that looks "hilarious" but is pointless and useless and only a source of stress for people who are genuinely invested in the betterment of Arqade
 
@badp Yup, coming in, laughing about a whole lot a drama an then leaving again is not really something I like.
 
@Arperum If I wanted to elicit further discussion on the topic I'd say that isn't even "drama", just yet another meta discussion.
 
8:59 AM
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Q: Call of duty clan

Josh WehrHey I am looking for a clan. I am 15. I am an okay quick scoper and usually just play 2 versus 2. I am looking for a small clan, I have a microphone but school comes first so I am barely active. Is any one willing to take me. My name is ONE__RENOITE. Just add me or answer below.

 
@Lazers INSTALAZE
 
@badp Well, yes, but discussion here tend to be kinda dramatic.
 
@Arperum The fact we keep bringing it up does not help.
HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE
KNOWWHATIMSAYIN KNOWWHATIMSAYIN
 
... I'm listening to a song for probably the 10th time now... and I still don't know if I like it or not =/
The fact that I'm still listening to it probably means I like it though
Stop being weird brain
 
@KevinvanderVelden probably. or at least it contains some good things.
 
9:12 AM
@Arperum Or maybe his brain just wants to torture him.
 
Which song is it?
 
@Arperum huntress - eight of swords
 
@KevinvanderVelden Yup, go for good. Huntress is awesome.
 
@badp This is such fun
 
@Arperum Jesus ...
 
9:14 AM
 
@Arperum I am so not searching for that on youtube
 
@KevinvanderVelden That one is written by Lemmy Kilmister from Motorhead :p And you know how the singer from Huntress looks :p
 
@Arperum also currently at work =p
 
Huntress is live prettty damn awesome too.
They are working on a third CD.
 
@badp That thumbnail is not that video
 
9:17 AM
@fredley The better question is, is that thumbnail that video?
 
Gah. The internet in our office is now so slow you can't even stream internet radio
 
@fredley Damn, that's really slow.
 
@5pike Yeah. It was 100Mb/s up and down when we first arrived. I'm guessing they've stopped paying as much at some point and it's tanked
 
@fredley Slow internet sucks
 
@5pike It's almost worse than no internet
Almost
 
9:27 AM
@fredley No, slow internet is more aggravating that no internet.
 
@5pike aggrevating, yes. Worse? I'd disagre
 
Now now @badp
Steady on
 
Hey, I was the one who warned him several times that madness lies that way
and you also warned him
and Kevin also warned him
 
Is it bad of me to lead him down the madness rabbit hole?
 
Hey im just questioning your community definition of what you consider to be an "on topic question"
 
9:39 AM
Maybe you should let @evilfredley help you with that decision
 
seems like to me you guys haven't quite figured that out yet
 
@Wardy Hey im just questioning if you realize how rude you are coming off
 
@Wardy There are an infinite amount of possible questions, a finite amount of them will be on topic, there will always be edge cases to decide
 
This is the last time I ask you to drop this topic
 
Hmmm ... sorry not meant to be ... spending too much time around that Mick guy I guess
 
9:41 AM
@Wardy Stuff that gets closed as off-topic isn't on-topc. Stuff that stays is on-topic. I think that's a workable definition.
 
@MartinSojka you assume of course they are consistent
in this case it does not appear to be
 
Specific inconsistencies can be pointed out and hashed in the meta. We had mass-closings before when we decided on the edge cases and we'll have them again.
 
Coming from the game dev room ... i guess im used to "rude" or "drama based" discussion ... is that not the norm here too ?
 
@Wardy No.
Also I asked you to drop the topic.
 
@Wardy Given that one of the biggest happenings in the gaming community right now is a banned topic here, how did you come to this conclusion? :)
 
9:48 AM
@MartinSojka I wasn't aware of that
I thought the site was focused on the video gaming industry ... is that not the case?
 
@Wardy it's focused on gaming! Not on any industry
 
Good to know either way (that was my interpretation of the site definition by the way)
 
Just because the industry builds something, doesn't mean the industry is the focus =p
 
@KevinvanderVelden by that i meant pc / console gaming as opposed to say ... board games
 
@Wardy it is about video games and not board games, you need the board games SE for that
 
9:50 AM
@KevinvanderVelden oh ok ... so this site is completely related to the video games industry then?
 
@Wardy no, to video games, noone here cares about the industry that makes it
(Or well, in relation to questions/answers on the site at least)
(It is allowed to have a life outside of Arqade.SE)
 
so its purely about the games ok ... fair enough
 
@KevinvanderVelden (other SE sites count as a life, right?)
 
@MattЭллен Yes, but those are a betrayal to GLORIOUS GAMING.STACKEXCHANGE.COM and are not allowed.
 
SE is love, SE is life
 
9:58 AM
yawn I'm on my second wind now, good morning again
 
@KevinvanderVelden oh. right tries to shove the other memberships into a cupboard
 
@MattЭллен puts the gamedev.se account back into the pillow fort
 
@Chippies Youd did a short nap?
 
@Arperum I lied down, wife woke up, said she has to get up for work and since I was just getting in bed, she made me stay up until she left for work
now she's gone and I'm not sleepy. Again.
 
@MattЭллен How dare you be mod of one of these inferior sites?
 
10:01 AM
playing Diablo until I get sleepy, lol
 
@Arperum looks down to feet, mumbles but I like it there
 
@Chippies yay. Do you own Shadow of Mordor? That's a lot of fun too.
 
@Arperum I do not own it :( The price is quite above my comfort zone
 
@MattЭллен I'll tolerate it. for now
 
10:02 AM
@Chippies I got it for 25 euros through nuuvem.
 
I'll get it in a year or so, when it drops below 20$
 
@Chippies US D3 I assume?
 
@Arperum yeah, at one point I was actually considering getting it for 30$ (on nuuvem), but the price had gone up
 
And season or not?
 
@Arperum yeah, I played Eu D3 for few weeks, but I had no one to play with, so I moved to US
and yeah, season
within about a week, I caught up to my non-seasonal WD...
I feel like leg drop rate has been increased A LOT
 
10:03 AM
@Chippies My HC season crusader is my highest DPS character I have.
 
@Chippies I agee.
 
@Arperum I was considering a HC seasonal, but I decided against it, because originally I just wanted it for the transmogs
 
@MattЭллен You keep dropping your leg too?
 
leveling a HC character can be stressful...
 
@Chippies I lost a lvl 70 DH I played for 20 hours in the season. Got overconfident and got smashed up badly by the first keywarden
 
10:05 AM
my first high level HC character died at 67 because it got frozen 3 times in a row, I watched it die a slow death
 
@Arperum way more often now we're in Autumn, for some reason.
 
that's when I decided that barb is a bad choice for HC :P
 
My crusader can now play safe-ish in T2.
 
as much as I like the idea of HC, I somewhat like the idea of dying without consequences
 
Some Elitepacks are still a challenge, because frozen + arcane + jailer + my defense skill on cooldown = bad.
 
10:06 AM
I have almost all HC achievs in non-seasonal, but I am not gonna bother gearing it up any more
 
Especially because I tend to always pull two or three packs when things get hairy.
 
I'd be very disappointed in myself if I had spent hundreds of hours in HC and my character died :P
 
I have a terrible habit of trying to run away in the wrong direction.
 
@Arperum I have a terrible habit of standing in aoe's
 
I got a couple achievements purely on HC season that I didn't have in the normal game yet (and now I have them seasonal too)
 
10:08 AM
sometimes I miscalculate how much I can take and I get hurt badly :P
 
@Chippies My SC non season wizard has some amulet that gives immunity to arcane IIRC.
@Chippies Moving only when really needed?
 
@Arperum yeah
as long as my net hp is positive, I'm not gonna move
 
@Chippies I do that too.
 
unless it's a freeze and my iframe skills are on cooldown
another thing with HC - you pretty much have only 3 passive slots, because you have to have one passive to save your life in case you manage to "die"
iirc all classes, except barb, has such a skill now
don't remember if crusader got one or not
 
@Chippies I think so, not sure if I use it.
 
10:11 AM
I haven't really touched my SC characters since I started playing again and I know a lot of changes happened in 2.1
 
As a crusader you have to use the wield twohanders in one hand thing though.
 
not SC, I meant non-seasonal
@Arperum the 1h passive is pretty decent as well
crusader with 1h can actually achieve insane aspd, which is great for survivability
although is it just me, or 1H's suck now?
 
@Arperum I managed without that initially. But I don't think I've got to the same stage you are. I'm only at level 10 paragon and only just finished hard.
 
my WD has been using 2H weapons since pretty much my first 2H drop at level 10'ish
I can't find any 1h weapons that are even close in damage
 
@Chippies I haven't found anything that even comes close with that 1H passive.
 
10:13 AM
that's with an offhand
 
@MattЭллен I have a 3.5k or 3.6k dps weapon.
 
@Arperum it's gonna be lower dps with 1h, but faster wrath regen and more hp from life per hit
depending on your skills, 1H can be good
 
@Arperum ah. I can't think my DPS off the top of my head. probably not that high :D
 
but 2H will be more dps
 
@Chippies Yea, but DPS is more then halved...
 
10:15 AM
@Arperum well, my crusader never had a 3k+ dps 2 hander, so I can't really compare
 
ANd my current weapon also has a 624% weapon damage activate on melee attack that is not calculated into my dps.
@Chippies I've had a few now.
 
3k+ dps 2 handers were certainly more rare back when I last played crusader...
yeah, I have a few on my WD as well
 
I'm really curious how the storage is going to be merged when season ends...
@Arperum nice :o
 
@Chippies good question
 
10:19 AM
I have a seasonal belt :D
it's actually insane, my out of combat speed is 155%
 
waterproof with slight padding for warmth
 
@Arperum you don't have legendary gems yet?
 
@Chippies My single target DPS is quite a bit bigger even, that 682% trigger on melee attack is deadly.
@Chippies I have about ten, but my rings refuse to transmute sockets. I think the blasted things cost half a million to transmute by now.
 
@Arperum half a million doesn't sound too bad compared to rerolling legendary rings :P
I just use inferior rings with sockets, I'm not picky yet
 
I crit for ~2M, my axe adds a crit of 7-8M on top of that.
 
10:24 AM
@Arperum that's insane
 
@Chippies Bosses go down fast
 
it's difficult to say what my dps is, but I am facerolling T1
 
@Chippies I got the kill boss in less then X time with tis character. for multiple bosses. I think I should retry maghda once more. Her swarm of minions kinda distracts my axe, and the, I have to move because too much damage to the face at one spot, that is terrible for dps
I was super surprised when I got the first of these achievements. I think that was even before I got this weapon.
 
The beauty of WD - I got a ton of tanks :P
 
I am also kinda hoping to find the legendary boots again that allow you to run through mobs unhindered.
 
10:28 AM
but yeah, I was doing t1 starting lv69
 
I have a lower level pair of them and used them from 60 to 70 or something.
 
the drop rate of good stuff seems to be increased quite a bit and I'm loving it
@Arperum aren't those from horadric caches?
I've never had them, because I don't do much bounties :/
but then again, I don't necessarily need it on WD
 
@Chippies possibly. I should look it up. If they are, I'm going to have to increase my stack of rift fragments again.
 
@Chippies yeah, I'm just starting act II with a WD. I tend to just stand back and let my zombies do the work :D
 
I leveled to 70 on bounties basically.
twice
So I have 170-180 rift fragments stashed, I've been using these up slowly. I had around 200.
 
10:30 AM
@Arperum I did the campaign up to act 5 malthael, which got me to around 63'ish, iirc
I rather do the campaign while leveling, than do it when I'm 70
it feels like a chore when I'm 70, lol
@MattЭллен it gets even better when you get fetish sycophant passive :D
although it's not that great until late 60s on t1+
 
Crypt of the Necrodancers Zone 3 is really hard.
Even without beats.
 
anything under t1 dies too fast to really spawn that many fetishes
 
@Chippies I got from lvl 15-40 in 15 minutes or so. There is one specific bounty on a cursed shrine on the very first area that is pretty easy to murder for a friend, so his lvl 70 demonhunter(paragon 200+ in season) did it a couple times at T6 with me standing in a safe corner.
 
getting the seasonal "kill X of thing Y in this act" seasonal achievements got my crusader to level 70 by the end of the campaign. I skipped on the demons though, since 3000 of the same thing felt tedious even to me
 
@Arperum ah, yeah, I once leveled my wife's character from 18 to 53 in 5 bounties
I just didn't really have anyone at lvl70 to level me in seasons :P
 
10:33 AM
@badp Is the game worth buying?
Oh wait, "early access". Nevermind.
 
@5pike If you dislike the main mechanic -- playing to the beat with the song main mechanic -- you can play as the bard, who can move whenever he likes and take as much time as he likes.
 
@Chippies If you decide to come EU HC, I'll level you a bit. I'm first going to try that cave on T3, and then build up to max I can easily handle though.
 
The game is already fun and pretty and hard, and the music is good.
It's an exercise in minimalism, essentially
 
@Arperum unfortunately, you are the only person I know that plays EU (HC nonetheless)
and I know a lot of people that play US
 
@badp I like a challenge and I like rhythm games with good music, but I dislike early access.
 
10:36 AM
I should look up my EU profile...
 
@Chippies Yea, And I'm not going to switch now, never had that much of stuff unlocked at the blacksmith before.
 
@5pike Well, keep it in mind when it does "release"
(which is a pretty arbitrary thing)
 
@badp misclick
@Chippies damn, I even have a legendary there! (that was pre-first-inferno nerf)
 
@badp I can wait. It probably won't be before Isaac, I guess.
 
@Arperum btw, the legendary gem that Greed drops is AWESOME
25% chance for enemy to explode into gold stacks, which is around 6-15k per enemy
 
10:40 AM
@Chippies How do I get to greed?
 
I was doing well of souls event in act 1 and I picked up 600k
@Arperum get lucky with treasure goblins
 
@Chippies only portal I got from them was to a pony level
 
as in, if you're lucky, it will open a portal. Not the kinky way of "getting lucky"
 
@Chippies That would be weird at the very least
 
@Arperum yeah, the regular (I think) treasure goblin can open the portal
the one that opens pony level is a rainbow goblin
he looks different
 
10:41 AM
3-3 aaaaaa
 
I am pretty sure the one that opened the greed portal was a regular treasure goblin, but I can't say for sure, it happened quite fast
 
@Chippies WHen does this portal appear? low chance on kill isn't it?
 
also, 18m from greed encounter
@Arperum yeah, pretty low
 
@Chippies indeed
 
@Arperum I have 40 treasure goblins killed in season and I have killed maybe 3 at most since the greed level
so, it took me around 35'ish goblins to get the portal
 
10:44 AM
the rainbow level is disturbing. I don't like killing teddy bears
 
actually, the 6-15k might not be true for you, I have +918% gold find
Oct 6 at 16:22, by Chippies
user image
Super Awesome Sparkle Cake!
 
@Chippies I don't know how many I killed. Can I look that up on the website or do I need the ingame achievements for that?
 
@Chippies lol
 
@Arperum there's an in game achievement for killing 100
so as long as you have less than 100, it should tell you how many you have killed
 
I have killed well over 100 with no portal
 
10:46 AM
OH COME ON
I pressed up and right
and it read just right
 
@OrigamiRobot git gud
 
@Chippies I have no clue, still at work for nearly 4 hours.
 
btw, any idea if it's possible to have multiple greater rift keystones at once?
 
@Chippies No clue, I've been asking myself the same.
 
I ran a rift with wife, got a keystone, ran greater rift, upgraded gem, ran rift, got keystone again
 
10:50 AM
If you can do rifts at T6, keystones are a guaranteed drop then.
 
then later I ran a rift alone, while I still had the keystone and I didn't get any
 
@Chippies No guaranteed drop below T6
 
There's a site, where you can ask questions, you know.
 
@5pike what nonsense! Stop making things up!
 
it's a real place
 
10:51 AM
@Chippies I'm not. Yahoo answers is totally a thing
 
@MattЭллен seems like some hipster logo, never seen it
 
but maybe I should post a question... before anyone else does, so I can get ALL the rep!
 
@MattЭллен Nobody goes there. Yahoo answers is where it's at.
 
I forgot what the question was...
oh yeah, multiple keystones...
 
10:52 AM
oh hey! I just flawless'd 3-1 with just a dagger
lucky me
 
@5pike they're good, but if you have questions about gender, then expert sexchange is the place to go
 
I hate questions that fit in the title... The body text is so difficult to fabricate...
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Q: Is it possible to have multiple greater rift keystones at once

ChippiesI have a Greater Rift Keystone that I use for running with my wife, but I also want to get one for when I solo. Is it possible to have multiple Greater Rift Keystones on same character at once?

 

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