The Bridge

Powerlord

5:00 PM

@JasonBerkan Yes, but Florida isn't part of Canada...

Batophobia

@GnomeSlice quick, random indie game

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord Though Florida, like Arizona, is full of Canadians in the winter.

GnomeSlice

@Batophobia indiegamestand.com/store/573/sweezy-gunner

Rapitor

@JasonBerkan Snowbirds. worse than turtles.

@JasonBerkan Yeah, but is it the same as USA thanksgiving?

Unionhawk

@Rapitor No because it's on a Monday in October?

Jason Berkan

5:02 PM

@Rapitor In what way? It definitely isn't as big - we just have it on Monday, not on a Thursday (to make a 4 day weekend). But we still get together with family and eat.

Wipqozn

@Frank That's part of the reason I didn't want toccontinue the discussion earlier. I actually had work to do!

Frank

@Wipqozn I appreciate you willing to wait, though. It gets rough trying to juggle several different arguments.

fredley

@Batophobia Saving implemented

Jason Berkan

And unfortunately, stores use it as the demarcation between summer and Christmas, so we see Christmas decorations one month earlier.

StrixVaria

6

fredley

5:03 PM

@StrixVaria noted

Rapitor

@Unionhawk I have no idea. having been in US education system I know literally nothing about other cultures

fredley

@Chippies uh, I guess

Chippies

@fredley it just seems like a necessary thing in a game where clicking is the primary thing to do

fredley

@Chippies Waiting is the primary thing to do

Chippies

@fredley shhh, you're taking the fun out of it

and I'm sure most people add the numbers in bursts

fredley

5:06 PM

@Chippies Done it

Batophobia

53 mins ago, by Batophobia

The double-click highlighting thing is driving me crazy, @fredley fix it

fredley

@Chippies I'll burst you

Chippies

@fredley pops

@fredley now implement some sort of saving!

GnomeSlice

Jennifer Lawrence's lawyers say Google (not Apple) is to blame for the photo leak thing

Batophobia

4 mins ago, by fredley

@Batophobia Saving implemented

Chippies

5:08 PM

@Batophobia ah, didn't see that. I guess I will reload and lose all my progress in exchange for being able to save... siiiigh

fredley

Commas implemented

Rapitor

@GnomeSlice but wasn't apple the one hacked?

Chippies

@fredley the buttons don't work

Batophobia

@Chippies My thoughts exactly

fredley

@Chippies WHat buttons?

GnomeSlice

5:09 PM

> [The lawyer] told the New York Post that Google "knows that the images are hacked stolen property… posted by pervert predators who are violating the victims' privacy rights and basic human decency." Unlike Twitter, which took the images down quickly, Singer says Google moved too slowly, “making millions and profiting from the victimization of women.”

Chippies

@fredley nvm, not sure what was happening there... did you increase price of first upgrade or something?

fredley

@Chippies You can perform the save manually with one line of js

localStorage["exponent"] = JSON.stringify({score:this.score,coeffs:this.coeffs});

StrixVaria

@Rapitor Search engines are to blame for everything.

fredley

replace this with exponent

StrixVaria

@fredley Do you re-calculate achievements on load?

fredley

5:10 PM

@StrixVaria Yes

Chippies

@fredley sounds complicated, I'm not math savvy enough to understand what you are saying

I already reloaded though, so doesn't matter

fredley

Score and coefficients only thing that will ever be saved

GnomeSlice

> But Hollywood’s strategy conflates Google, a single engine, with the internet in its entirety. Filtering search results from one engine won't stop them from being shared (unfortunately for Lawrence and everyone else involved). While the victimized actresses deserve financial compensation, if Lawrence really wants justice, Google seems like the wrong place to look.

> Instead, she should channel her resources and power into finding more effective ways to combat revenge porn and online sexual harassment, which affect thousands of less powerful woman every year.

this

fredley

@GnomeSlice exponent

GnomeSlice

@fredley I get it.

5

That was good

StrixVaria

5:11 PM

@fredley Even though the equation wraps to my screen size, there is a horizontal scroll bar so I can wiggle back and forth like 50 pixels.

GnomeSlice

@Batophobia deepfriedenterprises.com/root.html

fredley

@StrixVaria I haven't dealt with the scrolling of the equation yet

Chippies

fredley

I'd rather it scrolled than wrapped

Chippies

this makes my smile

murgatroid99

5:12 PM

> Apple leaked my photographs. Better sue Google

Rapitor

with a name like deepfried i was expecting food...
sad now

GnomeSlice

How does playboy post such good articles

Batophobia

@GnomeSlice Looks pretty good

fredley

Oh my.

GnomeSlice

@Batophobia Haven't played it, so I can't confirm.

Rapitor

5:14 PM

@GnomeSlice oh shit that link was playboy? wait.. why wasn't it blocked O.o?

Chippies

@fredley lol that list...

GnomeSlice

@Rapitor Haha, yes it was.

Chippies

@GnomeSlice which one? o.o

GnomeSlice

6 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

Jennifer Lawrence's lawyers say Google (not Apple) is to blame for the photo leak thing

Batophobia

@Rapitor I'm going to guess you'll be having a chat with your system admin

Chippies

5:15 PM

oh

thought you meant the deepfried one

GnomeSlice

Then again, they also post stuff like this

StrixVaria

Holy shit I thought about sharing that with coworkers. I'm so glad I didn't.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria It's sfw

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice The URL has connotations.

murgatroid99

@GnomeSlice I'm not opening that at work, but the title looks great

Batophobia

5:16 PM

article is not the issue there

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria I guess, yeah.

Lazers

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Q: Recover a minecraft seed

The world I've been playing crashed recently and took the level.dat with it, so I've recreated it, however I have no idea what my seed used to be, and I really don't want to end up with another corrupted game world from exploring with the wrong seed. How can I recover the seed which was used to ...

minecraft

GnomeSlice

@murgatroid99 Haha, that's what I was going for.

Origami Robot

@Arperum A second what wont drop?

Arperum

@OrigamiRobot keystone of trials.

Rapitor

5:17 PM

@Batophobia woo! "I was reading an article about Jennifer Lawrince's leaks." .. "on playboy?" ... "uh... yes?"

Origami Robot

@Arperum That is not true.

MBraedley

Why does the constructor for DatagramPacket declare that it throws SocketException? I don't see anything that would cause it to throw such an exception.

Origami Robot

I have ~30 of them

Batophobia

@Rapitor "It's all ~~Google~~ @GnomeSlice's fault!"

Arperum

@OrigamiRobot That is the question basically, can you have two keystone of trials?

Chippies

5:17 PM

@OrigamiRobot he is just telling you his experiences

StrixVaria

I hate that you can't get rid of keystones of trials.

The only way is to use them.

Chippies

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A: Is it possible to have multiple greater rift keystones at once

Yes it is perfectly possible. Every time you kill a Rift Guardian in a normal Nephalem Rift, you get a chance (up to 100% chance in Torment 6) to recieve a Greater Rift key stone. They stack in your inventory by level : up to stack of 100, after 100 you start a new stack (just like potion). It al...

MBraedley

@Arperum Yes, it's possible, but it's not a guaranteed drop

@StrixVaria Drop them on the ground, leave the game, create new game.

GnomeSlice

I love going through the transcript

May 1 at 15:24, by GnomeSlice

godsanjit

StrixVaria

@MBraedley I thought you can't even drop them.

Arperum

5:19 PM

@Chippies @ori is replying to something I said around the time you asked the question.

GnomeSlice

May 1 at 15:25, by GnomeSlice

thidkd keubord iud fuct

MBraedley

@Chippies That's asking a different question, AFAIK

StrixVaria

You can, however, make a new character move them from your stash to that character, then delete the character.

Origami Robot

@MBraedley It is when you play on T6

MBraedley

@StrixVaria Really? Not that I ever tried.

Batophobia

5:19 PM

@fredley You should adopt the ClickerHeroes standard of Shift+Click = 10, z+Click = 25 and Ctrl+Click = 100

MBraedley

@OrigamiRobot I'm too squishy and too weak to play on T6.

Chippies

@MBraedley I don't think it is, I asked that question after we were talking about it in chat last night

Origami Robot

That's the question I'm talking about

Chippies

@Arperum I know, I'm just... confirming the actual information

MBraedley

@Chippies A keystone of trials is different than a grift keystone.

Chippies

5:21 PM

@MBraedley keystone of trials upgrades into a grift keystone. The answer has a screenshot of 100 keystone of trial stack anyway

Origami Robot

6 hours ago, by Origami Robot

That's why the keystones themselves have the level.

Jason Berkan

Actually, the most important part of that answer is "why does Rarity play Diablo 3"?

Chippies

so even if the question might not ask about keystones of trials per se, it is answered

@Rapitor turn it in your favour and report it to admin

Arperum

Dammit clicker heroes. give me a primal boss already! lvl 130 done, still no primal (except for lvl 100, but that is guaranteed.

GnomeSlice

I just had two primal bosses and appear to have not gotten any hero souls for either of them.

That's fuct.

Wipqozn

5:25 PM

@GnomeSlice Yeah, you really should avoid posting playboy links in chat. Definitely something that would get picked up by a lot of work filters.

@GnomeSlice What game?

GnomeSlice

Didn't think of that, my bad.

Wipqozn

When people talk about primal and souls I just think of dark souls

Chippies

@Wipqozn Clicker Heroes

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn This message didn't display for me. Good thing Chippies responded.

Frank

My latest Clicker Heroes run has been fun.

Almost every boss past 100 has been a primal.

Chippies

5:27 PM

I wanna ascend, but I can get through all bosses with skill spam every 15 minutes :/

GnomeSlice

@Chippies wtf

Frank

@Chippies I really need to get and level Vaguur. Is that his name?

Chippies

@Frank Vaagur is for skill cooldowns, yeah

GnomeSlice

The Unity development platform is up for sale

Big news

Chippies

Fragsworth is for click damage and he really improved my burst dps

Frank

5:29 PM

@Chippies Yeah. I got Libertas instead, and that's been super useful.

I'll probably re-roll ancients a bit when I ascend.

Chippies

@Frank Libertas is a must have as well, imho

Frank

@Chippies Yeah, but Vaagur hasn't come back up since.

Chippies

I wouldn't re-roll, unless you have some really useless ancients bought

Frank

@Chippies Reroll. Not respec.

Chippies

@Frank oh, right

I am very happy with my ancients right now, I got all the top tier ones

Wipqozn

5:31 PM

@GnomeSlice Sounds like it might just be a rumour.

Arperum

I want the idle damage ancient, but he refuses to come up, even after at least ten rerolls...

MBraedley

Ahh, internet, you are distracting me from doing my job!

Chippies

@Arperum if you don't have many ancients yet, sometimes it's better to pick up a different ancient (that you'd be picking up in future anyway) and work from there

but of course save before you do it

Arperum

@Chippies Yea, I pick one every so often, picked arman last ascension.

*atman.

Batophobia

@Arperum *batman

Chippies

5:33 PM

I maxed atman before I started this run, I see primals all the time

Arperum

@Chippies I have him at 1%

Chippies

@Arperum yeah, he's really expensive :/

Yuuki

@GnomeSlice Playboy used to have a pretty good reputation for having surprisingly well-written articles.

Chippies

the last 5 levels cost me around 500 souls, iirc

Yuuki

Not sure if that's the case these days.

Arperum

5:34 PM

@Chippies Quite.

Frank

Question for SQL Server experts: What permissions are needed for a user to be able to add other users to the database?

Arperum

@Chippies Yikes. That's scary.

Frank

Googling hasn't brought up much.

Arperum

@Frank I've known that before, but forgot>_<

Chippies

@Arperum well, I made 1893 souls in this run so far, so I guess it's worth it? :P

Frank

5:34 PM

Or at least, what I've found and followed hasn't worked.

Arperum

@Chippies True.

Chippies

and it's another ancient out of the way, now I only have ancients without level cap

badp

@fredley That's not real exponential growth. Go with x' = a + bx + cx² + .... You might have to store log x instead of x internally, though.

(Relevant)

Powerlord

@MBraedley It... doesn't?

Chippies

Final Fantasy XIII locked to 720p on PC

> Final Fantasy XIII's arrival on PC has been disappointing. It's confined to 720p resolutions, requires a 59GB download comprised of huge uncompressed cutscenes, and has been suffering player complaints about variable frame rates and stuttering.

murgatroid99

5:36 PM

@Frank Have you looked at msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms191291.aspx?

Chippies

lol, 720p PC game in these days, that's sad

badp

@Chippies yeah, /r/pcmasterrace had a field day with the port.

Powerlord

I'm looking at the Javadoc for DatagramPacket right now and the only documented exception I see for any of its constructors are IllegalArgumentException.

Frank

@murgatroid99 Tried giving explicit alter user permissions to the username. No go.

Chippies

I understand reasoning behind locking at 30 fps, but resolution locking is so early 2000s

Rapitor

5:37 PM

@Frank ALTER and/or CONTROL permissions seem to be what you need.

Frank

@Rapitor I think I've given the username CONTROL access, too.

Arperum

@Chippies FIFTY NINE GB...

Frank

They can edit user permissions, but they can't add users.

badp

Speaking of:

MBraedley

@Powerlord Some of the constructors (particularly those that take a SocketAddress) throw the exception.

Chippies

5:38 PM

@Arperum you get uncompressed cutscenes though!!11oneone!

let me rephrase that

badp

2

murgatroid99

@Frank what are users attached to? Servers? Databases?

Chippies

you get uncompressed cutscenes at 720p though!

Arperum

@Chippies Uncompressed 720p cutscenes?

Frank

I should mention, this is specifically done through the Dynamics NAV interface, which might change the requirements somehow.

MBraedley

5:38 PM

But there's no rational given

Frank

@murgatroid99 A specific database.

Chippies

@Arperum exactly :P

@Arperum fifty nine whole gigabytes of them!

Arperum

4 hours ago, by Arperum

Dec 16 '13 at 14:32, by Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden YOU, YOU, NINJA!

Frank

I've given the group de-facto ownership of the database, they still can't create new users.

Arperum

lvl 139, 315 click damage :p

Jason Berkan

5:40 PM

@Chippies I went to install my free copy of Sims 2 last night, only to balk at the 12.7GB download required.

murgatroid99

@Frank strange

Rapitor

@Frank I remember having this problem too, can't remember how I solved it. I think I just made whoever needed the ability to add users a full on admin.

Frank

1 min ago, by Frank

I should mention, this is specifically done through the Dynamics NAV interface, which might change the requirements somehow.

Chippies

@JasonBerkan is that the ultimate edition with all the expansion?

Frank

@Rapitor That would do it, and that's what they had.

Jason Berkan

5:40 PM

@Chippies C'est possible. Whatever Origin gave away for free.

Chippies

@JasonBerkan wow, last I remember sims 2 with all expansions was around 45gb

murgatroid99

The only time I had to use SQL Server, I migrated to MySQL after a little while. So I don't really know this stuff

Frank

But I don't want to give it back, because that's an incredible amount of access just to solve what should be a simple problem.

Powerlord

@MBraedley Oh, apparently this is something they removed in Java 8, which would explain why I'm not seeing it in the JavaDoc for 8.

MBraedley

@Powerlord wait, I can use an InetAddress and port instead (which is basically what the code is doing already), and then don't have to catch that exception. I do have to try/catch the send on the DatagramSocket, but that's to be expected.

Jason Berkan

5:42 PM

@Chippies That's even worse.

I only have a 200GB partition.

Chippies

@JasonBerkan 12.7 GB doesn't seem like a lot at all for Sims with all expansions :P

StrixVaria

Shadow of Mordor is 34GB.

Chippies

@JasonBerkan sims will have few gb of junk in your documents btw, so keep that in mind

badp

meanwhile in professional gaming esports sports television sports

Jason Berkan

Civ V is 8GB.

Chippies

5:44 PM

Tera Online is 25gb, but requires 50gb to install... as well as ~25gb of setup files

Jason Berkan

XCOM is 18GB.

Rapitor

@badp sperts

badp

Somewhat embarassing

I wish I could hear their voicechat

Chippies

5:58 PM

so, it takes me 6 and half minutes to get frostleaf to 100 and every other hero to 100+ as well

Arperum

@Chippies That's insane.

Frank

And Google has no results for my specific version of Navision as to what needs to be done.

Chippies

10min'ish into the game :P

Arperum

That's just crazy.

Frank

@Chippies You have too much time.

Chippies

6:04 PM

@Frank maybe, I haven't really done that much with it in the last 2 days

which is why my last run was 27 hours

I'm going away for the weekend, so you guys will maybe have a chance to catch up :P

Arperum

@Chippies lol

GnomeSlice

going home

Unionhawk

Yeah you have a chance to get on @chippies level. Bro

Chippies

I got stuff to do, but I'm still leveling my heroes :(

Unionhawk

That feeling of wasting time and knowing it though

Chippies

6:13 PM

The addiction is strong within this one.

Unionhawk

This is why I haven't touched clicker heroes with a hundred foot pole

Chippies

@Unionhawk I wish I had such willpower

Unionhawk

Let alone my browser.

Chippies

I'm still waiting to get kicked out of progression mode, I'm really curious how far I can get

this is how far I managed to get without using skills

26 minutes

Frank

sigh User calls about program hanging. Turns out, the program is being strained past it's limits, due to it being used in a manner never envisioned, so it was never coded for.

And it has some nightmare concurrency issues to deal with as part of the scenario. Yay for no proper requirements documentation!

Did I mention this program is in Access?

James

6:24 PM

@Chippies Hero souls are a hell of a thing :D

Oh and that army of ancients you have :P

Lazers

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Q: What is most important when starting to play Clash of Clans?

When you first start out playing Clash of Clans, you don't have much stuff. What are the first things to do when starting that will benefit you in the long run? Are defenses or loot the priority?

clash-of-clans

Chippies

@James probably the ancients more so than the souls :P

James

@Chippies I dunno 15000% damage buff seems relevant to me :)

Arperum

WOOHOO FINALLY GOT SIYALATAS

James

@Arperum Still not seen any of the AFK ancients

Chippies

6:28 PM

@James even more relevant when it's multiplied by 927% (100% base + 827% from siyaltas)idle dps :P

Arperum

@James I have the gold one for quite some time now, and now I was able to get the DPS one, it did cost me all gained souls this ascension + some, but I don't care.

James

@Arperum Yeah I think I would snag those two as well regardless of cost when they show up.. they just havent yet

I am also thinking about regilding my FireMage

Frank

@Lazers I'm thinking this is probably too broad. I'm reserving judgement for the moment, though.

James

Since his first ability is an Overall DPS boost it doesnt make sense to keep him gilded right now.

Arperum

@James reroll ancients. it was costing 6 souls/reroll for me. + 16 for the hero = 3 more then I got from my ascension.

James

6:31 PM

@Frank Starting strat seems pretty defined to me

@Arperum I only reroll if there is something that sucks

But I do peek ahead some times

Arperum

@James What do you mean?

James

(The rerolls, like everything else it seems are based off the same seed)

Save

Reroll if it sucks do it again etc until you find one you want

Then count up how many souls

reload and evaluate when that soul count is worth it

SCORE!

Rerolled Fire mage and got Grant :)

Arperum

@James Bah, I don't like that. I'm not going to savescum at all.

Lazers

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Q: Will something bad happen if I finish the Master Core too slowly?

Spoilers because this question discusses the new final boss in Super Smash Bros. WiiU / 3DS.

super-smash-bros-4

James

@Arperum Its up to you man

Figuring out the mechanics of the game are what I am enjoying with this one

Chippies

6:33 PM

@Arperum I wouldn't call it savescumming, since you're not changing the outcome

Arperum

@James Yup, singleplayer, to each his own stuff :p

James

I mean, its an AFK game figuring out how it ticks is all there really is to it :)

Chippies

the ancient list is predetermined

James

@Chippies It just lets me plan better is all

Chippies

@James yeah, I do that too

James

6:33 PM

Oh.. I also lost my entire day's progress last night :(

Forgot to put my txt file in my drop box before I left work

Chippies

sometimes it's easier to get an ancient I didn't want right now and then get the one I want, instead of just rerolling countless times

James

Had to give up all that progress in exchange for not giving up all of last night's progress

Chippies

and you can't know that without "savescumming"

James

@Chippies Haha, at your hero soul income rate though I would imagine it doesnt matter

if you can spend 20min and get 500 hero souls

[shrugs] :D

Arperum

@Chippies True, again, to each his own. I got my ancients the pricey way, It would feel like cheating for me if I did it different.

Chippies

6:35 PM

@James it doesn't now, but it mattered early in game :P

then again, my rerolls are super expensive now anyways, so I still savescum if I am looking into buying an ancient

costs 84 souls to reroll...

soon wife's gonna be home and then we'll have to leave for the weekend :(

some stupid wedding happening... lol

user15026

It's weird prepping for work and it is actually light out

user15026

(also Oktoberfest starts today, so that makes downtown....interesting)

Arperum

@Chippies How dare these people wed and stop you from playing?

Chippies

@Arperum Ikr! Those bastards...

James

@Chippies You need a flash capable mobile device :D

Chippies

6:48 PM

@James well, I will have my laptop with me, so, I will level up my heroes once in a while :P

James

@Chippies Hehe

Sconibulus

Oooh, I got Treebeast Gilded!

Lazers

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Q: Catching Xerneas in Pokemon X?

Does anybody know where I can catch Xerneas in Pokemon X? I need to find Xerneas but I don't know where.

pokemon-xy

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

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Minecraft

Proposed Q&A site for minecraft discussion dedicated to enthusiasts, professionals, and anyone who enjoys the game.

Currently in definition.

user15026

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment No. Stop. Stop trying to make this as a thing.

Rapitor

6:54 PM

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment could be good, but kind of wrong.

StrixVaria

Verizon is so bad.

Rapitor

@StrixVaria how so?

Arperum

@AshleyNunn How many times have they tried this now...

StrixVaria

@Rapitor Some other random person added my email address to their account by accident, and there is literally nothing I can do to remove my email address from the account.

I contacted the other person (since Verizon leaked the real account owner's email address to me) and he has called them twice and I'm still getting emails.

user15026

@Arperum Too many

Arperum

6:59 PM

@AshleyNunn Yea, it's kinda ridiculous by now.

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