The Nineteenth Byte - 2015-09-24 (page 3 of 5)

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4:00 PM

o/

@ZachGates about your challenge

Does it have to be — or is - fine?

@sweerpotato Has to be the EM dash (—) for the grammar

Alright!

Looks like a fun problem

I thought of it while looking through Wikipedia's List of paradoxes :P

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Q: Do I have to provide an ascii-art to the ascii-art challenge?

The question is rather simple. I want to create popularity-contests and ascii-art question. I know what image should be, but it's not ascii-art - there are some ascii-art versions of image in internet though. Because this is popularity contest, should I provide a image of final result, or should...

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Q: A Perplexing Puzzle

The Challenge Create a program or function that takes no input, and outputs (or returns): I'm a programming paradox — no I'm not. Without using a character twice in any string, or digit twice in any integer. Rules You may not use any character twice within a string. For example, the word...

code-golf restricted-source

4:16 PM

tfw ubuntu doesn't come with ruby by default

why

Torchy's Tacos still isn't open :(

@quartata Because it isn't as popular as others and it's easy to install? ;)

sudo apt-get install ruby-full

I think it's an older version in the repositories, though.

sudo apt-get install torchystacos-full

still annoying though

it came by default in older versions of ubuntu too

@Rainbolt This operation will use 93.5MiB additional storage space. Would you like to continue? (Y/n)

4:30 PM

@Geobits Yes. I've been sick for two days but not the nauseous kind of sick. I sweat off 7 lbs in two days. I need Torchy's Tacos.

I'm resizing my disk partitions to make way for dual-boot linux. How much space should I give it? (450 GB total, up to 200 GB available for a new partition)

If you main storage is going to be on the Win partition, you shouldn't need much for the core. 20-30 for /root, maybe 50 for /home, and whatever size swap (I think I use 8 or so). No more than 100 total.

I'm maybe thinking 64 because it's a nice "round" number.

50 for home is probably excessive unless you're going to be using it for movie/music though.

you are maybe thinking?

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4:34 PM

maybe

so maybe you are maybe thinking ?

I'm not sure if I think so or not.

ok, so you don't think that maybe you are maybe thinking?

I'm not sure that I don't think that I am maybe maybe thinking.

In con see fable.

4:37 PM

in con?

@Geobits I read that in Hypello accent (from FFX).

Someone should make a Mad Gab challenge.

?

Parts of speech are a pain though :(

specially the sp3000 part

4:39 PM

Mad Gabs are when one phrase sounds like another ("in con see fable" = "inconceivable")

i see

Oh I was thinking mad libs...

ic

I feel it could be solvable by computers using soundex or something.

jaba.mad.max?

4:40 PM

you mean joba

(It was the best I could think of)

I saw that edit lol

I can't think of a good one for mad though...

FACEBOOK IS DOWN, TEENS AROUND THE GLOBE ARE JUST POOPING IN BUCKETS PLEASE SOMEONE FIX THIS ASAP SO MUCH BUCKET POOP IT’S HORRIBLE

Tweeted by garrettmurray on September 24, 2015 at 4:35 PM

You could probably do something with it, yea. I'm not sure how you'd judge it beside popcon, though. A lot of them would be subjective.

Do teens usually poop in facebook or something?

yes

Yes facebook is like the monkey exhibit

but instead of monkeys its teens

Why is that guy so upset that he needed capital letters? I could care less if teens are pooping in buckets.

4:42 PM

Well, I mean I know there's a lot of crap on facebook, but umm...

And every week the cage surrounding the exhibit magically disappears and the monkeys start attacking random people eating cotton candy

@Rainbolt not when you have a teenage kid too

If my kid starts pooping in a bucket, I will not ask the tech department to fix it. I'll take care of it myself.

"too" - you cannot take care of neighbor's too

Ah but what if the bucket is defective and gives you an electrical shock every time you touch it

4:45 PM

Like a shock collar for dogs? That'll teach them fast.

But only when YOU touch it

anyways, its back up, so lets stop talking about poop

No

@Optimizer That's the neighbor's problem, tbh.

So I thought of an interesting challenge

4:47 PM

How many households actually have a bucket? I don't own a bucket.

So suppose you have a hexadecimal number like 125A

I own several buckets. Do you need one?

I have a bucket. It's not used much so it could be used as a poop bucket in an emergency.

@quartata about poop in bucket?

I don't own a teen, though.

what age is ur son?

4:48 PM

Less than teen :)

-15

Please continue with your interesting challenge @quartata

OK So as I was saying

Let's take 125A

So let's index this number with index 1 corresponding to 1 and 4 to A

when we sum 1 + the index it is at (1) we get the next digit

when we sum 1+2+the index 2 is at (2) we get the next digit

and when we sum 1+2+5+index 5 is at (3) we get the last digit

so I was thinking of making a challenge to generate these numbers

@ZachGates does this break the rules of your challenge? ideone.com/H9o598

@quartata In just hex?

4:51 PM

yes

Mainly thinking of rule 3 and 8

decimal would be kinda boring

most of them would overflow

@quartata I don't know if that'll be quite easy or not

I'm thinking yes

Well it's interesting at least

I'm sure it won't be that hard

@quartata I'm not sure I understand. It seems like the number only depends on the initial digit, so even in hex there should only be 16, right?

4:52 PM

But I've found that easy challenges are the most well recieved and the most fun

well there's also different lengths

it can be arbitrary length

There are finite amounts of them though

since eventually it'll overflow and you can't store them in one digit

hmmm

How many are there?

Ugh you want me to do math? Pls

What I mean is, is it possible that there is any other number starting with 1? From the rules you give, it doesn't seem so.

Uh I don't see why it can't start with any other number

2 + index 1 = 3

3 + 2 + index 2 = 7

4:54 PM

Right, that's what I meant when I said there are only 16 of them. One for each starting digit.

Dang. I wanted to share a funny meta answer that I got and it was deleted before I could link to it.

It basically amounted to "The answer is that there is no answer. Learn to solve your own problems. Good luck."

Right but they don't have to be just that length

125 and 125A are both valid

So it is an infinite series?

No it's not

How is the length not solely determined by the starting digit?

Ok, so there are n for each start digit, where n is the length of the "complete" number (most likely always <5).

4:56 PM

I'll do the math for you and see how many there are

1, 12, 125 and 125A are all in the sequence :)

actually it would be 125B

I goofed

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A: Should I edit a question if the edit makes the question more close-able?

Do you have some sense of humour here? If not, I can give you some. ...Do you have some sense of humour here? If not, I can give you some. ...Do you have some sense of humour here? If not, I can give you some. ..

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He posted a second answer lol

Hahah lol

The ironic thing about his post is that it actually made me laugh out loud

4:59 PM

:~)!

Looks like there are 36

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
A
B
C
D
E
F
12
23
34
45
56
67
78
89
9A
AB
BC
DE
EF
125
237
349
45B
56D
67F
125B
237F

There'd be more if you went to a higher base

Is Base 64 the highest base?

Wow. This guy is on a rampage. This happened seconds ago: meta.stackexchange.com/q/266718/254466

Last one I will post in here I promise: (edit: wow that was nuked fast)

You guys can follow along using his profile if you choose to.

Hmm. So the first/second digits increase by one, the third increases by two, the fourth by four...

@Rainbolt Wow, he's mad

5:05 PM

He has 1.5k on Ask Ubuntu. Who gains that much rep and then starts self-destructing?

I can't see deleted stuff on meta since they split it off from SO :(

Maybe he doesn't realise that they're part of the same network?

What's the difference between a moderator and a diamond moderator? — Beta Decay 2 mins ago

moderator is sometimes used (not often here IME) to refer to people with various privileges.

> diamond moderator is married

Most often when people say moderator they mean diamond mod, unless they're new to the network and don't know the privileges system.

They'll see a closed question and assume it was "moderators" that did it, since that's how it works elsewhere. Things like that.

5:14 PM

Ah I see.

Icy

IC

√-1+C

Who sees IC and thinks addition?

Indefinite integration

5:17 PM

Integrated Circuit?

In calculus, an antiderivative, primitive function, primitive integral or indefinite integral of a function f is a differentiable function F whose derivative is equal to the original function f. This can be stated symbolically as F′ = f. The process of solving for antiderivatives is called antidifferentiation (or indefinite integration) and its opposite operation is called differentiation, which is the process of finding a derivative. Antiderivatives are related to definite integrals through the fundamental theorem of calculus: the definite integral of a function over an interval is equal to the...

I always see "ICUP" because I'm actually 9.

@AlexA. We're all only 9 :D

@Optimizer If you like it then you should have put a ring on it.

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Just Golf 2016 code-golf Just Dance 2016 is coming out soon, and I know I'm definitely excited! However, let's take a quick trip back to 2009, when the original Just Dance was released. There are a lot of great songs, but I don't know who sung half of them! Luckily, I have a whole army of avid c...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Well hello there, fellow golfers. The time has come for us to take part in the game. Time for the official Illuminati Confirmation! Illuminati Confirmed? Nah, just joking. We actually want to hide even better - by making conspiracy theorists look ridiculous. For that, you need to create code i...

5:19 PM

@BetaDecay see, that's why I don't like calculus :P

@Geobits Meh I don't particularly like integrals either

Calculus, particularly integration, is awesome.

back

Differentiation is cool

It's fine. Integration is better.

5:21 PM

Everything in math is cool

Here here

That's actually false. There's nothing cool about real analysis.

We started doing matrices today... I know it shouldn't have but my brain melted

Haha

Damn it, I didn't ask to be in the further maths class :D

I like it anyway :)

5:23 PM

Linear algebra is my arch nemesis

Why so?

I had a very hard time understanding the concepts

I really like linear algebra

Linear algebra and I are bros. We're like awkward roommates who keep forgetting each other's names.

But not as much as abstract algebra

5:23 PM

@sweerpotato I suppose not. Everyone is trying to work around the rules so I guess I have to start accepting somewhere.

"Is the determinant a volume?"
-"Well.. err, no.. but"
actually is a volume

Everyone at my uni kept saying "hurr durr abstract algebra has nothing to do with cs why you take it"

Because it's cool, that's why.

@ZachGates Great, I didn't want to cheat or post an answer which is not allowed

That's why I asked first

And they're right but I don't care

5:25 PM

@ZachGates it's a fun challenge though

Thanks :D

@quartata I had a hard time in abstract algebra but I liked the concepts a lot. At my university it was a 3-course series: group theory, ring theory, and Galois theory.

Nice

Hmm

My university had a Math/CS joint major and abstract algebra was a requirement

5:27 PM

When posting an anonymous function in C++14, does it have to include a trailing ;?

Everyone kept whining about it for some reason...

C++14? what is it? 2014?

Only if the semicolon is required for it to work.

I think I can save a byte

The newest standard!

C++17 is.

5:28 PM

@AlexA. thug life

Is it released?

C++1337

It's whatever you want it to be.

C++17 is magic. C++17 is love.

:D

Well, the second-to-newest standard then

Not under development(?)

Yeah I suppose I can remove the ;

The vote count is dropping /:

+7 -> +4

5:33 PM

rip

At least I thought it was fun!

:~)!

+3*

They don't even post comments?

xnor did

I need more challenges on my scrub level

Easy, but hard to win

@sweerpotato I'll see what I can do :P

5:40 PM

:~)!

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A: A Perplexing Puzzle

Python 186 bytes I don't know if this is a loophole... I0m_a_programming_paradox_3_no_I0m_not1="#" for k,v in list(list(locals().iteritems())): if v==chr(35): print k.replace('0',chr(39)).replace("_"," ").replace("1",".").replace("3","-")

Wow that's amazing

Yeah, that was very nice

Doesn't it break rule 4...?

Oh yeah, totally missed that

no ones posting on my challenge :(

5:45 PM

easily solved by 40-1

@Geobits AH didn't notice that

Yea, it's easily solved :)

@quartata way too hard in C++ :<

fair enough

I hope someone makes a ><> answer though

I bet it'd do pretty good in it

It's trivial in C++, and any other mainstream language

Palindrome code questions are very uninteresting, since they only require you to make a comment at the end containing the reverse of the source

5:47 PM

I banned comments

and strings containing a copy of your code

ya

That makes it more interesting right? :)

Ah, there are enough extra restrictions to make it impossible

Errr

that's not intersting either :P

5:49 PM

I mean someone posted an answer so it's not impossible

Yea, I think it might be impossible in many languages.

Relative to C++.

And most esolangs too, if chars can only be used once.

Err

That's not true actually...

The program just has to be a palindrome

It's supposed to identify a heterogram

The program itself doesn't need to be a heterogram

It'd be completely impossible otherwise

Since a palindrome means repeated chars

I figured it meant only once in each half

Nope

Read the challenge :P I'm not that evil

That would be only possible in like the weirdest of esolangs

5:57 PM

Which language is dfeuer's post written in? codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/58607/41899

Huh

It looks familiar to me...

is it Haskell?

Yeah it's Haskell

ahh

Now it's +7/-5? I wish I could at least get some feedback.

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