Game Development

I went through a few phases myself -- as a professional programmer -- where I was just at the point where I wanted to do nothing to do with programming

Mutch95

i've been doing so bad at school though

last year i was fine

Hjorthenify

@Mutch95 Get some coffee!

Mutch95

i have about 3 cups a day

Hjorthenify

11:06 AM

That might be the problem as well

Mutch95

but i rely on coffee to stay awake

Jon

nut

Mutch95

.-.

Hjorthenify

Switch to drinking tea and limit yourself to one cup a day and you'll feel better :D

i had to do that last year because I couldn't focus without coffee and if I had too much I couldn't focus either -.-

Mutch95

it's not i cannot focus

Jon

11:15 AM

yeah i drink 1 cup max per day

Hjorthenify

which is what happens when you program until 3 am and have school from 8 am to 3 pm lol

Mutch95

it's that I don't feel any effort to do anything

hahaha

shhhh

Jon

its a form of depression

Mutch95

is it because i'm poor?

i can't do anything other than program or go to school because i have no money to go out lol...

Jon

nope

Mutch95

11:16 AM

what causes it?

Jon

i used to be in highschool, poor as a ball of dirt

life

hormones

Hjorthenify

I got a few dollars left for this month...

Jon

lack of friendships

Mutch95

lol

h8ing life

Hjorthenify

lack of a life goal

Thinking: What use is it anyways?

Mutch95

11:17 AM

pretty much

Jon

never achieving anything worthwhile

Mutch95

gonna die sometime why does it matter

yep^

Jon

comparing your life to others

Mutch95

well to me that is

Hjorthenify

suppressing your feelings

Jon

11:18 AM

what you need is a giant pair of boobs to play with

that never fails to cheer me up

Mutch95

fuck haha

Hjorthenify

Hahahaha

Mutch95

i ran into a garage the other day because i was drunk. oh boy that was fun ,-,

Hjorthenify

xD

Jon

lol wut

Mutch95

11:19 AM

it was closing and i was running so i'd get inside in time before it closed

I FORGOT TO DUCK!

and now i have a cut on my head

Hjorthenify

Genious :D

Jon

hahahahaha

Mutch95

i got the sound on video too

sounds like a car crash

Jon

that is funny

Hjorthenify

xD

Mutch95

11:20 AM

i can send it if you like

Jon

sure post it, lol

Mutch95

but idk where to upload it

Hjorthenify

I was once at a party where a girl managed to run into the same streetlamp twice..

She had horns the next day

Mutch95

LOl

lol

Jon

wikisend.com

Hjorthenify

11:21 AM

And probably a concussion, but she wouldn't tell us haha

Jon

doesn't require registration to send files

Mutch95

hahaha

Jon

one time i thought it was a good idea to race a car driving on my road -- i was like 10 or so

ran as fast as I can while along side the car

right into a tree

Mutch95

hgahahahhaha

Jon

that driver must of been pissing himself laughing

some random kid running full blast into a tree

Mutch95

11:22 AM

can't upload .mov?

oh wikisend

Hjorthenify

Hahahaha

@Jon Is it worth it making spritesheets?

Jon

how many images?

Hjorthenify

5

Mutch95

wikisend.com/download/605982/IMG_1212.MOV

Hjorthenify

For one keyframe anim

Mutch95

11:25 AM

there we go

Jon

a spritesheet speeds things up since you can contain all your images in 1, and that allows your spritebatching to be done all at once

Mutch95

pretty sure the sound is obvious

Jon

instead of swapping textures on the gpu every frame

you probably wont have to optimize for this in your game

Hjorthenify

@Jon clever. Know of any good tools to merge them together or should I just fire up photoshop?

Jon

But its the proper way to do it

yeah, there are a bunch out there

spritesheetpacker.codeplex.com

This next one is relaly good.. but requires adobe air

renderhjs.net/shoebox

Hjorthenify

11:26 AM

Ah cool! I was looking at sprite sheet maker

Mutch95

did the link send?

Jon

that one costs money

watermarks your images if you don't pay .

@Mutch95 yep, opening it now

says file is blocked lol

Hjorthenify

the codeflex one?

Jon

firefox delete it

Mutch95

are you using mac?

lol wtf

Jon

11:27 AM

no.. lol

Mutch95

it's a .mov

Jon

yeah firefox says it may contain a virus

try chrome?

and the file is gone

well that bull

11:28 AM

i'll try chrome

Hjorthenify

Okay Jon.. Should I enable power of 2 output and what does it mean by "generate map?"

Jon

Chrome blocked it too

says file is malicious

Mutch95

unless i somehow transfused it with ebola...

Jon

@Hjorthenify power of two has some benefits for your GPU

and generateMap is referring to the texture atlas

Hjorthenify

@Mutch95 make it a .zip file and upload again

Mutch95

11:29 AM

ok

Jon

textureAtlas == sprite definition, location of sprite in that sheet

You can write an importer, and load the sprites using that atlas..

But unity does all this for you

Hjorthenify

I see. Do you know who made this application?

Mutch95

wikisend.com/download/902030/IMG_1212.MOV.zip

Jon

nope

Mutch95

work now?

Jon

11:31 AM

no same

Mutch95

fuck

Jon

sending me viruses you bastard!!!

Mutch95

i'll try another uploader

lol it's ebola

Jon

maybe wikisend injects a virus in files

Mutch95

maybe

Jon

11:33 AM

Mutch95

damn you @Hjorthenify hahahahaha

Hjorthenify

Oh wow

Mutch95

hold on

Hjorthenify

Maybe wikisend has a bad reputation?

Mutch95

www.filedropper.com

Kevin van der Velden

11:34 AM

It might be one of those "Oh hey, this is new, let's make everyone afraid!"

Mutch95

filedropper.com/img1212mov

there!

Hjorthenify

Yeah..

Mutch95

work?

yeah it works

Hjorthenify

Jon's PC has been infected with virus

Mutch95

lol

he caught aids from it.

I know the file dropper one works because i downloaded it

Jon

11:40 AM

heh

ok, so note to self

user92578

I wish C++ had properties

Jon

wikisend is shit

Mutch95

lol

Hjorthenify

@Tyyppi_77 Why?

user92578

I'd need to set a flag when a variable is set

user92578

11:41 AM

but currently the variable is just a public member

user92578

not a setter/getter

Jon

lol, why were you recording?

Mutch95

well i was drunk

so

Jon

that explains everything

Mutch95

irrational decision are made

we were walking to a mates to get more alcohol

because we finished the vodka pretty quick

Jon

11:42 AM

I hate the type of guys that want to fight when they drink

look at me i'm a drunken ape

Mutch95

yeah dick heads

lol hahaha

i think i was actually recording it for my sober self

Hjorthenify

@Jon That's when you're more sober and knock them out because they can't react quick enough

Mutch95

don't really know

Jon

true nature comes out when you are loaded

ohhhh, i don't get involved.

Hjorthenify

@Tyyppi_77 Ahh yes.

user92578

11:43 AM

Hmm not sure if I want to use the VC++ property thing

Jon

one time I got punched in a face by a drunk guy

user92578

Or just change tons of lines to use setters/getters

Jon

didn't even have time to react, my friend had him pinned

Mutch95

wow

Jon

apparently he was the jealous type.. I still have that pic I took with his gf

Mutch95

11:44 AM

what was it over

Jon

right before he punched me

Mutch95

hahahaha

Jon

he got kicked out -- it was a house party at my house

idiot.

Mutch95

I have this mate that got so drunk he said the fence was staring at him so he literally knocked it over

user92578

I round way too much stuff each frame

user92578

11:45 AM

the stuff might have not changed

Mutch95

he ran through a wooden fence

Jon

hahaha

user92578

and rounding is quite slow if done a lot

Jon

@Tyyppi_77 sounds like you have some engineering to do :)

Mutch95

he skulled 2 bottles of smurnoffs vodka

user92578

11:46 AM

@Jon yup

Jon

When I was 15 I chugged a half-pint of vodka pure

Hjorthenify

I was once attacked by a guy, but I just left. Turns out he had just come out of prison due to severer assault

Jon

the things you do when you are dumb

Kevin van der Velden

@Tyyppi_77 that that that, don't do ugly hacks that aren't common in the language =p

Mutch95

i would but as i said I'm poor can only afford the shitty stuff lol

Jon

11:47 AM

students are poor, its just the way it is

You build up dept , so you can support your government

Mutch95

bleh

user92578

@KevinvanderVelden so no __declspec?

Jon

Student dept is actually one of the biggest scams in history

Mutch95

i want to support myself

user92578

or what ever it is

Jon

11:47 AM

You don't even realize how much you are getting fucked by racking up a student loan that you cannot default on

Ready to start your life? here is a 40K loan

Hjorthenify

@Jon Should I be using "order in layer" to make my sprites appear in order?

Jon

makes sense? no it doesn't

Mutch95

ikr

SpartanDonut

So sleepy :(

Mutch95

fuck

i'm going to uni next year ahhhh!

Jon

11:48 AM

@Hjorthenify yeah, that is the z-ordering in 2D

for spriterenderer

Mutch95

well thats if i finish my diploma in time

user92578

@Jon I'm scared of life

Hjorthenify

Gotcha

SpartanDonut

@Jon try 80k :P

fml

Jon

Once you get old like me.. you realize that everything you were taught as a kid was all just an illusion to get you to obey

Hjorthenify

11:49 AM

I Denmark we're paid to go to school...

Mutch95

how so?

Jon

To join the system -- to help keep the people in power powerful

Mutch95

well then

Jon

Want to know what is the most valuable resource on the planet?

user92578

We get big supports from the government here in Finland, as long as you don't stay and rot at school

Hjorthenify

11:50 AM

Beer?

Jon

People. When you can control people, you are a god.

Mutch95

the public

Hjorthenify

Well that's kinda what beer does.

Jon

Do you know where taxes come from?

Hjorthenify

Americas 99% ?

Mutch95

11:50 AM

idiots

user92578

People.

Mutch95

who cause a massive bill for the country

woooo

user92578

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER

Jon

right, people... Now think about how taxes came into play.

How did they originally get people to pay taxes?

Hjorthenify

Well we need roads

user92578

11:51 AM

offer services for their money

Hjorthenify

and stuff

Jon

They would get farmers to give up their yield in return for not killing them

Kevin van der Velden

@Tyyppi_77 __declspec is common in the language

Jon

aka, intimidation.

Mutch95

by knocking on their door and threatening them

Hjorthenify

11:52 AM

It just appeared to me that you could hire private contractors to come fix your road...

Jon

Then at some point -- we turned into a democracy -- we are still forced to pay taxes via intimidation -- this is a form of control

You are under control by people, right now.

Mutch95

but we can't do anything about it

Jon

Everyone is.

user92578

I think I'll just go with getters and setters. Regular old C++

Jon

RIGHT, you are part of the system.

Mutch95

11:52 AM

just how it is

atleast it's not hitler

Kevin van der Velden

@Jon also for protection from banditry (i.e., we won't let them kill you)

Jon

And for the rest of your adult life, you will work -- with barely enough free time to enjoy yourself

They do this so that you can't dream

They don't want you to dream

They want you to follow the rules

they want you to generate money for them

Mutch95

but for what?

Jon

because they want power

Mutch95

in the long run

nothing happens

Jon

11:53 AM

control man.

Mutch95

for anyone

Jon

its all about being a god.

Mutch95

which doesn't even matter

just progression

because the world will blow up one day

lets all give up and do whatever the fuck we want

Hjorthenify

ANARCHY

Now we're all going to get the government knocking on our door within the next few days

user92578

as long as people are selfish and evil anarchy does not work

Jon

11:55 AM

the world is a vampire

Mutch95

fuck it

user92578

that's a song, right?

Mutch95

let's take that one trip to mars

Jon

The Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet with Butterfly Wings

►

user92578

yay!

user92578

11:56 AM

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER

Jon

its actually related to the convo

Mutch95

?

Hjorthenify

@Jon To save an object as a prefab I just drag it down to my prefab folder, right?

Jon

Assets/Resources

wont work in any other folder

Hjorthenify

I dont have such folder D:

Jon

11:57 AM

some unity bullshit linking

you need to create one

Hjorthenify

Called Resources?

Jon

if you ever use Resources.Load

Yep

Mutch95

yep

Jon

Assets/Resources/

Hjorthenify

Can I add a prefab folder to that?

Mutch95

11:57 AM

can't wait to start working with unity after i finish this cert 4

Jon

Yep

Hjorthenify

Also should I add my sprite folder to it as well?

Jon

I put sprites in Assets/Textures

Hjorthenify

Same with tiles?

This is 2D btw

Jon

tiles?

Hjorthenify

11:58 AM

For a tilemap

Yes

Jon

if it is an image, i put it under /Textures

i don't know what you mean by a tile

Like a tilemap?

he looka lika man

Hi Pip

i honestly haven't made a game that's worthy of being called fun or good lol

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