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2:02 PM
I fucking loved Descent II
 
Joe
man the name got me excited but the video is kind of shit...
 
had a flightstick and everything
EVE is totally missing the space disorientation
 
Joe
same! i bought a "Sidewinder" for that game
 
there's very definite UP in eve
which bums me out
CTF, Minerva 3. OVER AND OVER AND OVER
with arclight
he was there for such a long time
played over Kali which linked IPX to the internet
 
Kali was a great service
for me, it was Duke Nukem 3D
...and my introduction to clipping glitches
 
2:08 PM
Aah I remember playing Red Alert 2 on a lan with newer computers. All sorts of fun
Including the ever memorable "Oh that one! That's the one you have to click... wait now it's gone"
IPX on (then) modern OS-es is uuh weird
 
still live
 
...but blocked at work :(
 
@Almo "In business since 1995". What? The website? Yeah looks about right
 
doing logo design
an im comparing like
 
@KevinvanderVelden Kali
 
2:12 PM
competition be like
LOL
 
@Almo yes, I know what they meant, the website looks like it's from 1995 though
 
yeah it does
:)
@Mutch95 yours is way better, mutch
 
ikr
i cant decide
that or this
the lines art meant to be there
 
The other one
 
Joe
too busy on this
 
2:14 PM
yeah that's what i though
 
second one is not as good
 
yay i agree haha
the dietics thing is trippy
 
all the other logos spell it "dietetics" if my eyes aren't deceiving me
and I'm terribly tired so they could be xD
 
I think you're right
 
lol
yes
just realised
my god I'm tired
 
2:17 PM
Let's all go home and take naps.
9
 
Joe
can I star that? i think i should
 
Alternatively we can crawl under our desks, use our laptop bags as pillows, and hope no one sees us.
 
Joe
@Mutch95 lmk if you need more practice :D I spent 10 bucks on fiver last week trying to get something halfway decent for a splash page... and all i got back was garbage
 
"You get what you pay for"
 
Joe
totally
 
2:19 PM
 
Joe
its funny they steal other logo designs to put up in their samples, and cant even come close
 
i'm pretty good with photoshop :D
 
Joe
yes! UglySauce all over it
 
i enjoy it
 
:)
 
Joe
2:24 PM
@Mutch95 you check out illustrator yet?
 
no D:
i just work in really high dpi in photo shop :p
 
I made my logo with illustrator, then animated it with flash
 
Joe
when i discovered vector I fell in love with illustrator, really fun with a stylus
 
Illustrator is pretty beastly
 
it is pretty cool
just cannot afford
 
Joe
2:26 PM
well your a student... question mark?
 
yeah
school has some shit serialisation program which doesn't work >.>
i reckon one more logo and i'm done for tonight
 
Pip
Game is slowly getting larger
 
Joe
well students get 60% off creative cloud... i know its still not free but 20 bucks a month seems afffordable
 
Pip
 
not when you get nothing a month hahahaha
 
Pip
2:29 PM
That's with all three builds (Windows, OSX, Linux)
 
Joe
if you want it you make it happen is all im saying
keep doing logos like that and you could make easy money from lazys like me on fiverr
 
hahaha
 
4 logos a month will pay for your CC sub
 
^
 
And that's if you're just doing shit on fiverr
 
2:31 PM
they are contests though
 
Joe
fiver is not
 
and it's freelancer
 
Though that's probably against Adobe education license ToS
 
Joe
you post a gig someone pays up front you deliver on time, you get the money
 
does it support paypal?
 
Joe
2:32 PM
thats how I pay... your in college or HS?
 
high school
 
Joe
@SpartanDonut I dont think they limit "Student Accounts"
 
No idea
In general educational licenses are for non commercial use
 
Joe
@Mutch95 tell your rents... YO POPS MOMS get me CC and ill mow the lawn, its a life skill
 
i need money off them for my go's birthday haha
 
2:33 PM
Not a student so I've not read the CC educational license :)
 
Joe
i bet you they would be happy to spend 20 bucks a month on something thats not video games and junk food
 
hahah :)
 
i'd be useless in fiverr
 
Joe
@SpartanDonut neither have I, and I dont want to steer you wrong @Mutch95
 
Worst case scenario, it's $30/month which still isn't much in the grand scheme of things
I think
$10 for PS and $20 for Illustrator
 
2:35 PM
they're too professional on fiverr
 
Joe
but im just saying, for a kid there are hundreds of legit ways to make 30 bucks a month. When i wanted new PC parts and stuff I got a part time gig at retail... paid for all my ram upgrades
@Mutch95 you would be surprised... but I think they might have a age thing going on you might need to be 18
 
hate retail with a passion
 
Joe
means -> end
 
user92578
aaaand steady 58FPS! I'm done optimizing for today! Yay!
 
.
 
Pip
2:36 PM
Hashbrown does fiverr stuff... he's not 18
@Tyyppi_77 nice!
 
user92578
oh and if you're wondering about the 58, not 60, that's as fast as I can get the game run
 
user92578
Like I'm telling it to run at 60
 
user92578
but it caps at 58
 
user92578
might be a bug in my framerate code
 
@Joe I tried looking into this and couldn't quite figure it out
When I was looking I was pretty sure you only had to be 13 to sign up for fiverr but I didn't understand how that worked with child labor laws and whatnot
 
2:39 PM
@Tyyppi_77 What did you end up doing?
 
loving the english on these websites
 
user92578
small bits here and there
 
Such as?
 
Overall it just seemed illegal lol
 
user92578
I found out that rounding was slow, so now I only round if necessary
 
user92578
2:40 PM
I also don't destroy a vector that is used a lot, instead I use one and recycle
 
@Noctrine a series of events has lead me to having a Focusrite 6i6 on it's way. Should be here Wednesday I think.
 
Joe
I just don't want to make a "non-kosher" recommendation for the kid, if I was him... hell yea i would do it... I DID do that stuff I was selling website design for 1k when i was 14
but was it legal? not at all
 
LOL
1K
hahaha
 
Joe
when i was 16 I did a site on AOL for some guys for some company for 7 grand
 
Pip
Eyyy stations are a thing (kind of)
 
Joe
2:41 PM
my dad let me do it, and he kept the check lol
 
haha wow
 
user92578
wow
 
Pip
hahahaha
 
wooow
 
I've only freelanced (in HS) for a couple hundred bucks
 
2:41 PM
what an ass
how long did it take you?
 
Joe
lol I am sure I spent that money, but he said its for college haha
 
OH HAHA
 
Pip
nice
 
Joe
that was a month of work, and they kept coming back with updates which i felt obligated to do
 
Pip
Nice
 
Joe
2:42 PM
weird operating without contracts...
 
web design could be fun
 
Pip
I'm hopefully going to do some interning in the next few summers (before college)
 
Joe
im just saying "REAL" businesses charge ALOT of money for design and stuff
 
Pip
I am never going to do web design professionally. Not interested enough
 
Joe
2:43 PM
there are alot of people who dont want to pay that, a driven individual could make a killing if he applied himself
 
Fiverr is a scam to everyone involved
 
Pip
Yep
 
Joe
yea I totally agree, fiverr 99designs whatever its all the same
 
Well... not entirely true
I'm sure some of the "trades" available on fiverr might be worth only 5 bucks
But design work and programming work...
People doing work for so cheap are ripping themselves off and people buying stuff on there aren't going to be happy
 
Joe
but when you get looking to move towards college and start looking for a graphic design desk job you are going to need a portfolio
an I built my portfolio selling on sites like that... and if you are active, give a shit and try to do good work its worth it because you need experience
after that point and outside of that scope... its probably all shady dealings and unsavory people
 
Pip
2:45 PM
what the heck. I have no idea what this guy gets out of this
 
@SpartanDonut Neat!
 
bahahahaha @pip
anyways I'm out night all!
 
Pip
night
 
Yeah the 2i2 wasn't on prime and I can't remember why my wife was against the 2i4... probably just the difference in price (price per i/o not worthwhile I think). So now I'll have more audio hardware than I need but hopefully one day we grow into it.
 
how the fuck do you make an iOS app for $5
 
Pip
2:46 PM
No idea
 
Joe
@Almo theyve already made it... and they just keep reselling it with changed content lol
 
hmm
 
Joe
at least thats what i gather from most of these sellers
 
@SpartanDonut I just came home, and perhaps I will have a nap
 
I highly recommend it
 
2:47 PM
HAVE TWO NAPS
 
@Pip Cost of Living between US and China are variable and yeah he probably as a lot of the work pre-done.
 
Pip
true
I will eventually need to get someone to do art for me.... I can't do art for shit
Programmer art <3
 
user92578
pixel art all the things!
 
user92578
you can do that I'm sure
 
Pip
No pixel art allowed!
 
user92578
2:58 PM
oh
 
Pip
Look at those trading stations that I made from a picture of a cabin in Valley Forge
oh man
And that castle that @IcyDefiance (and others I think) helped me with
Caravan I made from a clipart of a covered wagon
Tiles are kind of pixel art
 
Joe
so who has played Dark Souls (1)? am I just getting old now or is it really this difficult?
 
From what I was told, unless you play it right - it's difficult.
 
@Joe like any game you'll learn it's quirks and use it to your advantage
I found it hard at first but once you know what you're doing it's a fair game
 
Joe
so i felt the game did a poor job pointing you in the right direction, and right from the get go I was running right towards way overpowered mobs and getting demolished
 
3:04 PM
LOL. A bug just turned out to be an awesome feature for me
 
Joe
after I found level "1" it was difficult, but possible but damn
 
Pip
@joapet99 ?
 
I'm having fun with box2d
 
Pip
cool
 
I'm making a way to trap the ball when it steps on a trap. I accidentally got a part of the trap to repeat all the time so it makes a surrounding ball around the ball so it can't get anywhere
 
Pip
3:07 PM
cool
gif?
 
Don't really have a gif making program
Do you know any good ones
 
Pip
same
 
gifcam is what I've used in the past as well
 
Jon
i used gifcam
 
Pip
3:11 PM
Oh man now to implement resources
oh man this is going to be difficult I think
got to implement a map loader.... and write some xml to describe each tile
no more procedural for now!
Or.... maybe I will do procedural
research time
 
Yay. I got it captured rather good
 
GOLMERS
 
Pip
lol
 
haven't seen you in a while, joapet :)
what's up
 
Oh hey Almo
 
3:13 PM
I saw a sign that said "Gomer" about a week ago I almost panicked but then I realized it was safe.
 
:)
 
Well, I am experimenting in box2d
 
Pip
@Wardy thanks
 
Pip
@Joe Lol I have no idea what I'm going to do about that yet
I like it @joapet99
 
3:15 PM
It got trapped. MUAHAHA
 
Jon
its ok
 
Pip
Hmmm
 
That's with two walls generating per turn
 
Pip
make it like 20
 
XD
 
Pip
3:20 PM
:D
@Jon @Almo have any ideas on how I could do "pooling"? Not pooling as in the memory management thing, but as in when I generate resources they would create a "pool" with the highest amount in the middle, thinning out towards the edges.
 
Jon
yeah
 
Not quite sure what you mean
 
Jon
 
Pip
Yeah but with resources instead of lighting
 
Jon
I wrote a custom algorithm to calc it
 
Pip
3:22 PM
Btw, how is that game going?
 
Jon
it sucked writing it
 
Pip
:D
Alright, to the drawing board!
 
Jon
Its still in my code repository.. haven't worked much on it
@Pip an easy way to write this -- drop a value in a box, then propogate the values out
 
Pip
yeah, that's what I'm going to do I think
thanks
 
Jon
if you go further than 2 blocks, it gets really stupid
get grid paper
 
Pip
3:23 PM
will do
 
Jon
There is an algorithm I figured out
 
Jon
That you can use.. but it is extremely hard to explain
 
I think I'm going with this
 
Jon
@joapet99 I wrote a prototype similar to this last week
I think a physics based platformer could be pretty fun
 
3:29 PM
@Jon I think I mentioned this previously but if you haven't yet, check out Night Sky
 
Pip
@Jon nah, I'll get it :D
 
Jon
attayboy pip
@SpartanDonut checking it out thanks
 
Really having fun with Reassembly
I designed a factory ship. I got into one. I spawned a copy of it after collecting resources.
 
Jon
haha, fun
I was testing out cars
 
Then I told that ship to make 3 of my interceptor ships, then a copy of itself.
 
Pip
3:31 PM
Oh man, I just realized that I can reproduce this level gen by setting the Random.seed variable. Nice
 
and it generated a fleet of ships, and took over a sector
Oh yeah, the computer assumes when a ship with a queue of ships to make makes a copy of itself, that the copy should inherit the queue
 
Jon
how is the build system @Almo
it looks complicated
 
@Jon Yeah the cars was what originally triggered the similarities to NightSky in my head :)
 
@Almo that is pretty damn awesome
 
it's really easy to work with
I'd say it takes about 2 hours of play to get used to the game's systems
 
Jon
3:33 PM
 
One of my ships didn't move very well... it spun as it tried to move
 
Jon
But way better
 
yeah
I found out the game does a center of mass calculation
my thrusters were off-axis
so it spun if it tried to move
 
Jon
cool
 
yeah very fun
 
Jon
3:34 PM
I created a game like that
if you didn't design it right you would spin... still controllable, but annoying
 
heh
Reassembly is my new "can't sleep" game. if I can't sleep, I play that for about an hour, then I can
 
Jon
only worked with squares though
 
:)
 
Jon
this was my first actual game
 
Jon has a prototype of everything
 
Pip
3:35 PM
yep
 
Jon is probably just a prototype of Jonathan
 
really having fun on the dailies with LowDown.
 
Pip
:D
 
Jon
heh
 
One day Jonathan will be complete. One day...
 
Pip
3:36 PM
@Almo released to world yet?
 
about 4-5 people playing every daily, and it's interesting
not yet
 
Pip
cool
 
Jon
i like writing prototypes
 
still ironing out some stuff in the interface
soon though
maybe 2-3 weeks
 
Jon
What I wanna prototype next, is group behaviors
 
3:36 PM
need to add some code that requires updates.
 
Jon
I've never done anything like that
 
MLM
I finally watched this talk last night that GnomeSlice posted before. Great "actionable tips"
 
Jon
give each mob a personality for example... such as leader/follower, smart/stupid
Then stack them
 
Pip
:D
 
Jon
did I show you my football demo? lol
 
3:51 PM
 
Joe
^ ow my brain what
 
in The Bridge, 27 secs ago, by Kevin van der Velden
Brains are weird.
Appropriate
 
Jon
lol
 
hzahaha
 
Pip
Current resource generation:
too much :D
Time to do some filtering
oh... dark is less
wut did I do XD
 
Jon
3:55 PM
Oh btw, I found something in Unity that I didn't know about
 
Tonight I begin on the map generation for that's okay you have explosives 2.0
 
Jon
Platform Effectors
Or just Effectors in general really
 
Pip
Darker is more:
hmmm probably more filtering
 
I think I read those were new in 5. Possibly even in a patch of 5
But I'm not sure. I might be misremembering
 

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