Game Development

@BlueBug I kept trying the likes of git and mercurial... wasn't until Grey told me about Source Tree that I found it usable to the point where I would actually use git. Kept going back to Visual Studio Online (TFS)

Lasse

and :wq to write and quit

joapet99

don't work

Lasse

visual studio online D:

Almo

or ZZ to write and quit

not :ZZ

just ZZ

Lasse

@joapet99 then it's not vim, I have no idea what it is

joapet99

7:31 PM

it is git bash

Almo

bash isn't an editor...

BlueBug

aye I feel the same. GUI helps to transition to pure console git. Starting raw from git is too scary for me.

Almo

it's the Bourne Again SHell.

joapet99

I can try git GUI

SpartanDonut

Try Source Tree

Lasse

7:33 PM

@joapet99 stackoverflow.com/questions/11828270/how-to-exit-the-vim-editor

BlueBug

I can a bit of git now, learned how to use git as I work with github/sourcetree. I alternate between git and GUI. I found most comfortable to do simple task with GUI and git to be enormously helpful when "errors" pop up.

Lasse

I just git

all the gui tools have been horrible

I used git tortoise for a while on windows, but it never felt as good as the cli git

SpartanDonut

tortoise git is horrible

Evan

I use it quite happily on Windows

BlueBug

@Lasse have you treid github/sourcetree?

Lasse

7:36 PM

it was the best gui tool I could find

SpartanDonut

Source Tree

Lasse

github for windows and sourcetree weren't available before I moved on linux

SpartanDonut

@BlueBug it's like no one hears us D:

joapet99

Trying source tree now

BlueBug

@SpartanDonut you are prob blocked by all the users except me : P

SpartanDonut

7:37 PM

That's probably it. I say some pretty vulgar things

BlueBug

hurhurhur, but yet... rolfl will still be with you. The eye that watches over every move.

Lasse

source tree, meh, no linux client

BlueBug

oh, you are linux user. Ok. That makes sense.

Lasse

I wonder if rolfl knows he's become a meme

SpartanDonut

Git off Linux

Lasse

7:41 PM

git is designed to be used from cli, and it is best used from cli

it's almost like irc and irssi

MickLH

@BlueBug This seemed like a ridiculous idea

Noctrine

What's a reason that jquery append wouldn't work on a specific field.

MickLH

@SpartanDonut Until I read this, clearly blue has hit the nail on the head

BlueBug

@MickLH spartanDonut being blocked by most users? of course. We luv<3 him.

joapet99

@Lasse ... headscratch. It actually worked

SpartanDonut

7:44 PM

@Lasse weird... I don't like IRC either :P

joapet99

it is completely back to beginning

Lasse

lol

I've been on irc since I was.. uh.. I wonder how old I was. 13 maybe?

and that's damn long ago

androidmaster

Hey someone quick

BlueBug

quick!

androidmaster

is anyone talking about games?

Lasse

7:46 PM

there's no quick here

SpartanDonut

I'm too slow. Guess I can't help

androidmaster

No that mean I can ask a question

Lasse

I don't know anyone quick

BlueBug

quick!

Almo

you can always ask a question

Lasse

7:46 PM

yes just ask it already

androidmaster

Okay how do I earn money

Almo

how much time have you wasted already not asking it

androidmaster

at age 15 to build my own pc

Almo

get a job

job done

androidmaster

AM 5

BlueBug

7:47 PM

clap clap clap

Lasse

@androidmaster get a job and get money

androidmaster

15*

i cant get a job at my age

Almo

mow lawns for dough

Lasse

@androidmaster some of the 15 year olds are using fiverr here

Noctrine

@androidmaster Off-topic. Not about game development.

androidmaster

7:47 PM

Yes you r right

Almo

you mean "are right"

Noctrine

What ever happened to the old days, when kids wanted money, and would do all the odd jobs around the neighborhood to get it.

Almo

people will respond to you better if you don't use txtspk

BlueBug

there's always someone who's willing to pay a lot of money for a young underaged boy, if you know wat I mean. #YOLOSWAGMONEYISGREAT

Lasse

odd you say

SpartanDonut

7:48 PM

@Noctrine that would be a waste of their skills....

(sarcasm)

androidmaster

But I needed to get money in order to build a better computer to be able to use blender at a high speed to create models and meshes for exporting to opengl and creating games

Lasse

@androidmaster you need to be patient

androidmaster

So all in all it does work, since I trying to make a simple webgl game

Lasse

@androidmaster no good games are made in a rush

androidmaster

But I cant since my computer is slow and rendering/exporting/compiling IS SLOW

@Lasse Am not rushing, I just need something better to code everything and be more productivity and efficient

I cant when compiling my java code takes a while

Lasse

7:49 PM

I wonder how I ever was able to handle my 86286 cpu

SpartanDonut

@Lasse could it run Crysis?

whats that

no

86286 cpu?

Doom1 ran lagging as hell

androidmaster

7:50 PM

I googled it but cant find anything

Lasse

oops

80286

I'm sorry

androidmaster

is that windows 95?

BlueBug

that's really sad actually. I know that feeling. I didn't even have a computer back when I was kid. I so wanted to have computer. If you cannot find job, @androidmaster , you simply cannot afford to have computer. And that certainly will delay your experience.

Lasse

no it's windows 2.0 or something

androidmaster

I actually have 4 computers

Lasse

7:51 PM

It ran 3.11 fine though

BlueBug

WUT?

SpartanDonut

1 good computer > 4 bad computers

androidmaster

but I was really dumb and bought bad computers

SpartanDonut

Take them back

androidmaster

2 years ago I didnt knwo what ram was

SpartanDonut

7:51 PM

Get a refund

androidmaster

or a AMD

I cant get a refund I buy them from walmart

see?

Lasse

walmart does not offer refunds?

androidmaster

But now my current, computer which i bought with more knowledge is decent but not fast enought

SpartanDonut

A lot of places refunds are for unopened products, exchanges for opened products

androidmaster

Lasse

I dont think they refund used computers

2 year old ones

Lasse

7:52 PM

lol

SpartanDonut

You should try. See what happens

Lasse

sell them on ebay

androidmaster

.... I cant get to walmart

its too far away

you need to be 18 for ebay

SpartanDonut

Ask your parents?

androidmaster

my parents dont know how to use a computer less use ebay

SpartanDonut

7:53 PM

Walk them through it?

androidmaster

only my dad knows how to stream videos

my mom has dificults finding the browser

SpartanDonut

Damn

Seems you won't ever get a new computer

Lasse

get a job, and buy one yourself

that's how 15 year olds roll

androidmaster

i cant

there are no jobs....

Lasse

right, @hasherr ?

androidmaster

7:55 PM

can you give me a few examples

Lasse

just do anything you can find

androidmaster

of any job?

SpartanDonut

Mow lawns for neighbors

androidmaster

My neighbor is filled with deplux homes with no lawns

SpartanDonut

Clean houses

Lasse

7:56 PM

wash cars

SpartanDonut

Do tricks on your bike and charge $5 / ticket for people to watch

Lokkij

Ask around and see what people would like you to do

androidmaster

Okay thank you guys for your help, I just not that type of person to do those stuff....

I stay home all day... and study/code/internt stuff

Lokkij

No school?

SpartanDonut

If you cut out the code/internt stuff you would have more time in your day

Lasse

7:57 PM

@androidmaster try fiverr

androidmaster

Yes school

Everyone goes to school

SpartanDonut

I don't go to school

androidmaster

Am 15

in US and everyone here goes to school

Lokkij

Ah, okay. I guess I took "stay home all day" too literally

androidmaster

Okay thanks guys, I guess I'll go back to finding coins on the floor in school

Lokkij

7:58 PM

Good luck with that :P

SpartanDonut

@Noctrine did you figure this out? Forgot I was investigating. I didn't find anything.

androidmaster

People these days are too careless, I find 0.10 everyday at lunch time in school

SpartanDonut

Null element or something

Noctrine

I found I was getting an unknown number error

androidmaster

What r u guys doing?

SpartanDonut

7:59 PM

Well that certainly could be a problem

androidmaster

Code?

Lasse

@androidmaster we're mostly creating games here

androidmaster

Which language?

Lasse

I'm using C#

androidmaster

@Lasse Am learning all the basics to be able to create games, I first have to get over the barriar of understanding opengl es and webgl

Lokkij

8:00 PM

C# here as well (Unity)

Noctrine

@SpartanDonut Yeah. I set my variable using ''. But when appending to it I was using "".

:|

Lasse

@androidmaster cool :)

androidmaster

Unity :O, dont you have to pay for that?

Noctrine

Unity has a free version

Lokkij

Not for the free version :)

androidmaster

8:00 PM

But you cant make games that makes a profit over $10,000 or something else

What if you make the next flappy bird

Lokkij

Then you can upgrade to Unity pro

Lasse

@androidmaster when you create games that makes profits of $10000 you really have no problem purchasing the real deal

Hjorthenify

but you cant use C++ with the free version :(

SpartanDonut

I would call it Flappy Bird 3 (because I already saw Flappy Bird 2 on the store. Turns out it was a clone)

Lokkij

@SpartanDonut Who would've thought?

Lasse

8:02 PM

a clone of flappy bird, never saw that coming

joapet99

not now after a hundreds of them

SpartanDonut

I have a confession... I didn't download it

It might not be a clone

It might actually be the next Flappy Bird. I guess we'll never know.

Lasse

I can already see the headlines

flappy bird 3, the next flappy bird

I'd do flappy bird 9001, then it would be over nine thousand

and make it so that it plays back the sound from the video when you reach 9001

nothing else changed

MickLH

well, you could go the extra mile at least, and if they fail to achieve OVER9000 after 9000 tries then they should be notified of epic failure

Lasse

good idea

hey mick do you know any cli editors other than nano, vim or emacs?

something that has not that ancient roots

MickLH

8:07 PM

The thing built into midnight commander

Whatever that editor is

Lasse

wtf that is then

I'm looking for something purely editor

MickLH

CLI editors are dum lelel

Lasse

I know

MickLH

when you run them on dumb terminals

get it! :P

Lasse

now what

MickLH

8:09 PM

now install gedit

Lasse

I got gedit

MickLH

and download the Solarized Dark theme from kraig552 or whoever

Lasse

it's bad

MickLH

Turn the font to monospace, and size up pretty high

Enable automatic indent

???

Profit

github.com/craig552uk/solarized-gedit

Lasse

I prefer monokai

MickLH

8:11 PM

pfft!! shit's not science'd out yo

Lasse

but it's so pretty

MickLH

I legitimately had a significant increase in quality of life by switching from a standard syntax highlight to solarized dark

I can sit at the computer for several more hours a day without eye fatigue

Which is extremely important to me, I sortof run my body at the extreme of how much time you can sit at a computer without it falling apart

Lasse

monokai is still way better than the standard highlight

MickLH

Yeah it's extremely better

but ... not... quite... solarizeddarkomglol

Hjorthenify

#lokkij still here?

Lasse

8:15 PM

actually I just thought that I need to change my shell coloring to monokai too

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@Hjorthenify, You need to use the @ sign. # doesn't highlight.

MickLH

@Lasse solarized dark*

Lasse

monokai!

Lokkij

@Hjorthenify Yep!

MickLH

@Lasse did you get a new keyboard lately

Hjorthenify

8:15 PM

Oh... lol how do you use c# from unity?

Lasse

@MickLH no

@Hjorthenify it's native to unity

Lokkij

@Hjorthenify C# is supported by default

MickLH

Hmmm, well your muscle memory is strange, you made the same long typo twice

Lokkij

Are you confusing it with C++?

MickLH

@Lasse you keep spelling "Solarized Dark" as "Monokai"

Hjorthenify

8:16 PM

Can u use c++ also? Im not

Almo

hahaha

Objective-C

^^^

Hjorthenify

Or is that still plugins only

Lasse

@MickLH weird, I read that as "monokai" as "monokai"

is that what you wrote?

Almo

*******

you guys see *******?

Lokkij

Not as far as I know

(that C++ is usable, that is)

Almo

8:17 PM

:D

MickLH

@Lasse Yeah exactly, but you made the typo again LOL!

Almo

c# is definitely used byunity dude

Lasse

@Almo when you type your password here it just reads as stars, like this: *******

Hjorthenify

Damn

MickLH

lol

Lokkij

8:20 PM

Darn, confused C# with C++ :P

Lasse

shit

I was supposed to delete that before the time, but I was a second late

don't take me seriously, passwords do not appear as stars

MickLH

Today I implemented Lanczos interpolation in my synthesizer

After doing math homework for 2 days, I almost have it implemented, except some numerical stability issues

Almo

@Lasse cool!

but if i copy your stars, it comes out "hunter2"

Lasse

@MickLH whatever that is for

@Almo it's supposed to

Almo

cool

:)

SpartanDonut

8:25 PM

hahahaha you guys can't see my password! it's andheresjohnny12345

lolol

MickLH

@SpartanDonut The coolest part is if we copy paste it back to you, then you see this "andheresjohnny12345"

SpartanDonut

:O

magic

maybe even sorcery

MickLH

and you can edit the stars with other stars and paste it and get "butwheresjill98765"

Just kidding REPOST ALERT

SpartanDonut

Alright

serious question time

did we just get trolled by that androidmaster guy?

Lasse

I suspected that too

MickLH

8:29 PM

@Lasse It's for two apps I'm working on, 1. the synthesizer, for obvious reasons, and 2. my scripting language for interpolating between array elements

SpartanDonut

I just can't be certain

MickLH

By default, interpolation is switched to -1, which handles like C++, `array[1.5] == array[1]`,
but with interpolation level 0, it rounds instead, so `array[1.5] == array[2]`,
at 1 you get a linear interpolation, so that `array[1.5] = (array[1] + array[2])/2`,
and anything 2 and above gives you a Lanczos Sinc interpolation of the same size

Lokkij

@SpartanDonut I like to think it was just a really naive and lazy kid; plenty of those around

SpartanDonut

No one is really that... naive and lazy... are they?

Lokkij

You clearly haven't met enough people who think they can make games :P

SpartanDonut

8:37 PM

But to think you can make money without working

Noctrine

I can't wait to make money without working

SpartanDonut