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4:00 PM
@kalina It's a good game, although it doesn't quite have the same magic as Portal did.
Anyway, I have a meeting now.
 
enjoy your meeting
wait, no, the other thing
 
Finally killed it
reclaiming again!
 
@kalina Aw
@TimStone Any news?
 
don't aw at me, I'm not a cat wearing a hat
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this is a cat wearing a hat:
 
4:09 PM
@kalina Aw
 
@OrigamiRobot Because the server is down, I loaded up my alpha world. Nostalgia trip
 
@StrixVaria Seeing this still open in another tab to share with others, I suddenly realized that I now imagine that all iPhones are voiced by Heffer Wolfe.
 
@fredley Heh. Alpha... I remember when I didn't ever play until well after the server-crash free-weekend thing...
That's only when I heard of it, played classic, thought it was dumb, didn't play again until probably beta 1.7...
 
@GraceNote I have no idea who that is.
Oh, the character from Rocko's Modern Life.
 
When I realized the real game was actually good, versus classic, which is shit.
 
4:12 PM
@StrixVaria Aye.
 
@fredley OK, plans for my human processing center are underway. Lava, poison, acid, liquid nitrogen go in. Other stuff comes out.
 
@fredley I'm working on a solar factory with a tiny footprint. And it's awesome
 
@Unionhawk One chunk?
 
@fredley Tinier.
 
@kalina It's sooo cute... except for the death stare. It looks like it's going to murder us all.
 
4:14 PM
@YiJiang'sEvilClone only OrigamiRobot
 
Granted, it doesn't do the processing of ores, or anything, you need to input items into a chest, but, that can be stage 2, I guess
 
@kalina I would destroy that kitten and take its hat for my own.
 
@OrigamiRobot And this is why it wants to kill you.
Kitten hat thief.
 
@Unionhawk One big thin tower with pipes, power and control lines running in a horrible mess around it?
 
@Unionhawk I started playing right before the Nether was added.
 
4:17 PM
@MartinSojka A computer controlled crafter, a computer, 2 managers, and a chest. It's 2x3x2, if I recall correctly.
 
@Unionhawk No energy source?
 
@MartinSojka It does require a small amount of BT power, which is why it's 2 wide.
At least. Thermopile would make it at least 3 wide
 
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Q: Can I activate a retail copy of SimCity on Origin?

Owen SmithI don't have a CD drive so was wondering if it is possible to activate a retail copy of SimCity via Origin and just download the game from Origin rather than installing it using the disk?

 
Arg, mouse, work, dammit
 
Would I need anything other than the standard client to play on this server? If so, would I still be able to connect to my own vanilla server?
 
4:19 PM
Smallest footprint of a factory is actually just 2x1x1: One ender chest for the input, one ender chest for the output. Everything else in your own private Mystcraft world with a world anchor nearby. :D
 
@MartinSojka If that counts, then my design could be 1x1x1, since in/out is the same chest
But seeing as that most certainly does not count as far as I'm concerned...
 
@MartinSojka That wouldn't work because you need a way to move items between the chests.
 
Working with computer controlled crafters is tricky... there's no real easy way to make sure that there's the correct item in each slot, except by always keeping 1 item in each slot.
 
@Lazers This seems like a trivial question to me. Shouldn't the SimCity retail box state clearly that the game needs to be activated on Origin?
 
As a result, this thing can't craft too many solars per request. I may just build a standard fabricator setup
Up to 7, based on cobble requirements. Also, again the issue with not-ghost-items adds the requirement of having a stack of pretty much every crafting component in the manager.
I am still pleased with this build though. And we'll see what RG does with the crafter later
 
4:26 PM
Solars are such a pain to make.
 
@OrigamiRobot That is why I want to make a factory damn enter key
 
I'll just use biomass for my EU needs
 
But the "7 or less panels per request" thing is a rather large issue, since that means it won't be able to do even LV panels...
@OrigamiRobot I'm probably going to go geothermal or nuclear for my secret volcano base that nobody knows about. I kind of want to build a CRCS reactor... but I'm not quite confident enough in my nuclear engineering skills to do it.
 
I wonder if I can make an Accelerated age without Decay. for my tree farm...
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone It does! I was looking at one the other day.
 
4:34 PM
So... do we do anything?
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone No idea. I thought it was a duplicate, actually... But I can't find the question I was thinking of.
 
@OrigamiRobot I wouldn't count on it... Maybe, but, I really don't know.
Apparently, this is what decay looks like:
Dammit, that requires login, doesn't it... let me fix that
 
Yes, not fun.
I'm going to try though.
All the other instabilities are manageable.
 
@OrigamiRobot From the config, "Erosion" and "Crumble" don't sound much fun either
 
Oh I haven't seen those.
 
4:42 PM
What the difference is, or what they do, I don't know
Yeah, I'm looking at the config. "Enemy regeneration" sounds fun...
 
@Unionhawk ...wat
 
@Unionhawk Uh... Run?
 
and i am home!
 
@badp That, is decay. It happens when you tell the world to generate with more ores than normal, or with something stupid like "Plains, Ocean, Single Biome"
 
@Unionhawk wat
 
4:46 PM
@SaintWacko That's not me, and they're in creative. And concerned about their quarry, for some reason. ("you're already in creative...?")
 
Mystcraft can be pretty annoying when you try random words, or just to game the system and create a "rich" world.
 
@Unionhawk Ah
 
@badp It's a mod called Mystcraft that allows players to make their own dimensions by defining what they want in that dimension. Improper age writing leads to instability, which, in light cases, will cause debuffs like hunger or slowness
But in extreme cases, will cause decay to literally destroy the world.
In this case, the player added "Dense ores" which generates more ores than normal, but will guarantee severe instability. And since they were dumb enough to quarry in such a place... they deserve it
 
That's... interesting. Can a minecraft mod really do that?
 
@Unionhawk That could be someone else's quarry.
 
4:50 PM
@MartinSojka The poster said it was theirs. But, again, creative, so why does it matter anyway?
I don't understand people who feel the need to gather resources if they're already going semi-creative. Unless I suppose he may have been flying for the picture...
That actually makes more sense... I should stop accusing people of being cheaty bastards on sight like that.
 
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Q: Is it ever explained in universe how the three races can use the same resources?

RanaynaIt is somewhat feasible to assume that Terrans and Protoss use the same Materials for building their stuff. But how do the Zerg fit into this? It seems strange to me that the Zerg use the very same resources that Terrans and Protoss. I do not remember that there was ever a satisfactory explanati...

 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Mystcraft only does that to the worlds it generates, not to the main "overworld". It gives you even more ways to shoot yourself in the foot - you can easily get trapped in such a world without any way to ever reach the main world again (without using /tpx, of course).
No way for anyone to reach you and help you, either.
 
@MartinSojka I very nearly got trapped in an age.
 
@MartinSojka Won't a nether portal always come out in the overworld? Or is that not the case?
 
oh, you can't go visit someone else's age?
 
4:53 PM
How I managed to both find that dungeon again and pick up all my stuff before dying again, I'll never know.
 
Good for "prison dimensions" though - skylands, perpetual night, some nasty biomes, maybe lava for water ... throw anyone who likes to grief your server in there after emptying their inventory, problem solved.
 
@Lazers Blegh.
 
@Sconibulus You can, it's just, if you go to an age, and don't have a link book home, you're screwed
 
@AshleyNunn Just curious, did you try baking the MMMMM recipe I posted here the other time?
 
@Unionhawk No clue, really.
 
4:55 PM
@MartinSojka To the testworld!
 
@Unionhawk well then how is it that you wouldn't be rescuable? Can a player not carry multiple home books?
 
@Unionhawk I don't think nether portals work in ages. I remember seeing something about it somewhere.
 
@OrigamiRobot We're going to find out for sure right now
 
@OrigamiRobot They do, but you just can't make them legitimately.
 
@Sconibulus If the book to that age is gone, there is no way to get there.
@RonanForman That's what I meant
 
4:56 PM
@Sconibulus You can create any number of "book-portals" (linking books) or "crystal portals" to your world, and anyone can use them (per default, server permission plugins can override that). The problem arises when all such portals get destroyed and you can't create more ...
 
@RonanForman Also, is the server unborked?
 
@OrigamiRobot Nope, they don't work. It's the same thing that happens if you try it in The End.
 
I think we have too many chunk loaders. Looking at the error messages.
 
@Unionhawk Not entirely true
If you jump in a star fissure, you'll go home
 
@SaintWacko It's basically true. You have to be lucky enough to find one, and I don't think they generate 100%...
 
5:00 PM
@Unionhawk You can make ages from ages though. And they're always near spawn.
 
Know a guy who just got this tattooed today, I have not facepalmed this hard in a long time
 
@Blem wat
 
o_O
 
@Blem NSFW
 
in the ass then?
Also, it's not straight ;)
 
5:01 PM
@RonanForman I have zero chunk loaders and only one quarry.
 
the stomach i think
 
@RonanForman I've got 2 at default size and 1 quarry running.
 
I blame @fredley
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@OrigamiRobot That's my general stance.
 
Oh God! I clicked on this at the start of the day, now he title bar chat counter is going to draw my attention non stop!!
 
5:05 PM
@OrigamiRobot I concur. Especially if it is a chunk loading issue...
 
@RonanForman That requires paper and lether ...
 
@MartinSojka And they don't spawn in ages?
 
@RonanForman Depends on your luck, I suppose.
 
You can also find star fissures.
 
If you have really crappy luck, your quest home will take you through an Ocean Single Biome with blindness as its instability
 
@RonanForman Not in every age. Also there's the "perpetual night" ones where you'll have to fight creeper hordes on the way to those resources if you're lucky, Mo'Creature's ogres, golems and fire wraiths if you aren't ...
 
@James What's wrong with that
 
@SaintWacko Lowers productivity :)
 
@James Yes, and...? :P
 
@SaintWacko It's too broad, even for gamedev.
 
5:08 PM
Rule 1: Don't migrate crap.
 
@SaintWacko Thats it :)
 
It might be rule 2...
 
@fbueckert Agree; this topic varies heavily on the game...
 
@James We are controlling transmission
 
@RonanForman Which is why I asked before flagging
@fbueckert That's true, I guess that question is essentially "What are the risks of downloading things?"
 
5:09 PM
@OrigamiRobot These are fairly rare from what I have seen in the new mystcraft
 
@SaintWacko Essentially, yes.
 
@James Yea, I have yet to see one.
 
@OrigamiRobot We restarted our FTB map on Monday evening.. back to using the highlands biome mod.. could not be happier with the terrain.. it bleeds into mystcraft easily enough too
 
@RonanForman Okay, apparently I'm loading the most chunks... But one of those is the workshop, so... that doesn't count.
 
@Unionhawk How can you tell?
 
5:16 PM
@RonanForman /chunkloaders
 
@RonanForman Server seems up, and /chunkloaders
 
Neat, how many chunks loaded total?
 
It's not going to be accurate at this moment; only ChickenChunks loaders force load dimensions
So quarries aren't loading anything right now
 
NO ONE CARES ABOUT PONIES
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(except the people who do, but they don't count, because they care about ponies)
 
5:18 PM
This logic is flawless.
 
That... seems to have come out of nowhere.
 
@Sterno I care
 
@Sterno Don't make me stab you.
 
5:20 PM
That's all of... one statement.
 
@GraceNote Three now.
 
Still only one prior to the outburst.
 
@kalina You never count.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone wtf did I just watch
 
@OrigamiRobot how rude :(
 
5:21 PM
@Sterno Filling in for @GnomeSlice while he is gone?
 
@RonanForman Server
 
@kalina Cotton candy has no rights.
 
@fredley Yeah, it's a chunk loading thing I think.
Maybe we have two many myst ages.
 
@RonanForman I've been destroying quarries!
@RonanForman Remove them, except hunger shade
 
@OrigamiRobot sub-20k have no rights
 
5:22 PM
And miners
 
What ID is that?
 
@fredley <3 Hunger Shade
 
@Powerlord I have found a use for the saharan spy set
 
@RonanForman HS is 8 I think
 
@kalina Rights? I have no rights, you're saying?
 
5:23 PM
@RonanForman Maybe too many loaded ages. Perhaps we should consolidate all mining operations? (Keep new miner in existence please?)
 
can double check if server comes back
 
Okay.
 
abuse the dr to push the cart for the last stretch of upwards!!
 
@fbueckert yes u
 
@badp Pssh, there are more uses than that.
 
5:23 PM
@kalina That's amusing.
 
They don't load on startup anymore, so... it shouldn't be that big of a deal save for chunkloaders
 
@Powerlord but it's so braindead, even I can do that
 
Someone just posted a complaint on meta.SO, complaining his question got deleted, and he didn't have any rights.
 
for bonus points even if you don't succeed into winning the game you still keep the cart from going backwards
 
@Powerlord Yeah! Like on a TDM server I play, I go undisguised Dr. Enforcicle, just for fun
 
5:24 PM
@Unionhawk Saharan Set doesn't work with Dr. Enforcicle...
 
@Unionhawk that's not the spy set which requires l'etranger
 
I like the L'Etranger. At least when using the DR.
 
@Powerlord Oh, I thought this was about DR in general... Saharan is fun on that server too
@Powerlord Yeah, L'Etranger+DR is a good combo
 
Oh. For the DR I'm just trying to be aggressive about decloaks
 
Saharan Spy set is good on certain kinds of maps. Most of the time on koth_nucleus, for instance.
 
5:25 PM
I almost never wait for the cloak to run out now
 
Provided you know about the route that sees a lot less usage than the others.
 
@fbueckert link
 
also been exercising stabs and saps... they're actually pretty easy
 
It's still fun to hear "...really? The Enforcer?"
 
5:26 PM
@RonanForman seeeeerveeeeer
 
3 hours ago, by fbueckert
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Q: Is it fair to active users? Can you kindly tell me and let me delete it by myself when I just posted a unconfortable question

Henry LeuI posted a uncomfortable question that many people downvote and upvote. and the consequence is : it is closed by someone it got -30 downvotes i wanna delete it by myself it is deleted by someone. I got 100 reputation penalty. My question is: Is it fair if many people want to get someone's al...

 
I expected more nuance than just m1 scrollwheelup m1
 
@fredley I did, it crashed again.
 
@Unionhawk Dr. Enforcicle is what I use all the time. It's just so reliable
 
@fbueckert thanks, just wanted to downvote it
 
5:27 PM
with a few exceptions where I go IW, like the first point of goldrush
that part's too large for the Dead Ringer's 6.something seconds
 
@James The lead developer of the Bioshock series read a MLP fanfic. Mmmhmm.
 
@kalina The guy posted a seriously stupid question, and it was gathering downvotes galore. He wouldn't delete it, though. So once the last offensive flag was made, it got auto-deleted, he lost 100 rep (because offensive), and then he whined to meta about it.
 
I didn't know you lost rep if your post was flagged offensive
brb flagging everybody as offensive
 
@RonanForman Can I donate some RAMs?
 
@OrigamiRobot It's not my server, ask @TimStone
 
5:30 PM
@kalina It requires six flags, same as spam.
 
@kalina Only if it was actually deleted, though offensive/spam flags do mean an automatic downvote, which is -2
 
@RonanForman I thought it was SE's server.
 
@OrigamiRobot Not this one.
 
@GraceNote There's been a lot lately in terms of last week or two. Note that I don't actually care that much. This is just usual Bridge nonsense where you call someone out for something. People can post ponies all they want! I can complain about it all I want too!
 
@OrigamiRobot We can just download more RAM
 
5:31 PM
(unless I use Zalgo text to do it... then I get banned)
 
@fredley Don't tell them! I was going to look like a hero.
 
@Sterno That I still don't get. Who the hell has been flagging those, and which mod has been approving those flags?
 
@Sterno Ah. I got tripped up as it wasn't your usual reaction to this stuff.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone or 10ker
 
5:36 PM
@GraceNote It was also meant to be non-serious, but that doesn't always translate great in text. I'm definitely not a fan of the ponies, but I think I enjoy complaining about them more than I want them gone. :)
 
@fredley Server's not even loading now.
 
@RonanForman D:
 
WHAT DID YOU DO @FREDLEY
 
@OrigamiRobot I don't think a single 10k vote will cause an instaban like we're seeing here
 
@Sterno I can approve of this.
 
5:38 PM
@YiJiang'sEvilClone I though any 2 validations did it.
 
Are there any of our 26 myst ages we know we don't need?
 
@RonanForman Most of them
 
@RonanForman Anything with an index higher than 8 I'm pretty sure is useless
 
@OrigamiRobot Definitely more than 2 needed, I believe. I can't remember the exact number though
 
5:39 PM
Can you configure Mystcraft to not load spawn chunks in other ages?
 
@RonanForman Anything past HS
 
@OrigamiRobot I need IDs.
 
@badp How'd the Low Quality queue not catch that?
 
@OrigamiRobot Almost certain HS is 8
@RonanForman HS is 8
 
@fbueckert It was flagged low quality anyway, you could've seen it there
 
5:39 PM
@fredley I am also almost certain.
 
@RonanForman I assume IDs increment
 
@badp I didn't, though.
 
@fredley Yeah
 
And there's nothing newer than HS which we need
 
That's what I'm saying.
 
5:39 PM
I'll remove past 15, any objections?
 
@RonanForman That's definitely fine.
 
@fbueckert I mean you could've seen it under tools > flags
 
@RonanForman None
 
@badp Not 10K yet.
 
@fbueckert what
@fbueckert HURRRRRYYYYYYYY
 
5:40 PM
@badp Not even 7K yet.
Eh. Rep doesn't mean that much to me. I'll hit it when I hit it.
 
@OrigamiRobot Knew you would post that.
 
@fbueckert boo. You need 10k for the flag list
 
@Sterno You know, there are a lot of other things I'd love to talk about, but no one else in this room cares about. For instance, I'd love a good discussion about the implications of the new HTML5 scoped style specifications
 
@fbueckert I have to. Court order.
 
5:41 PM
@badp I know. That's why I mentioned I didn't have it.
 
@fbueckert then hurry
 
DAMMIT! Still not loading.
 
I thought the low quality queue would've caught it, though.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone that sounds fascinating
 
Different error though.
 
5:42 PM
@RonanForman Uhhhhh on second thought, I might be IN the latest age :(
 
@OrigamiRobot I don't know what will happen when you log on then.
 
Can we perma-star sterno's current bolded statement
 
Oh, wow. 5 weeks and @Gnomeslice can come back.
 
@badp not sure if sarcastic
 
5:43 PM
I can't remember if I am or not.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone not sarcastic, but I gotta jet now
 
@RonanForman What is error?
 
@RavenDreamer And let's hope it's not a repeat.
 
@fredley Error while loading chunk info, from chickenChunks
 
@RavenDreamer Isn't that just his site ban, not the chat one?
 
5:44 PM
@fbueckert Adapt or die. (Well, banned again, in this case)
 
@RonanForman Does it say which chunk?
 
@Wipqozn Yes, his chat ban expires in ~June I think
 
> This user has been temporarily suspended by a moderator and cannot chat for 124 days.
 
updates.html5rocks.com/2012/03/… for those who are interested cc @badp
 
Aww
I miss @gnomeslice
 
5:45 PM
I'm actually surprised he's not kicking around here right now. I'm proud of him for that.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone sounds like style="" on steroids
 
The main concern, as expressed in the comments, is that this will encourage inline style declarations
 
I GUESSED RIGHT
DIN DIN DIN DIN DIN DIN DIN
bah
 
@fbueckert He was bound to get bored of watching us eventually.
 
@badp Isn't it, "DING DING"?
 
5:46 PM
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Inline CSS can suck it
 
@fbueckert gooood night-a-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding.
 
it's like the g is like mute right?
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Scoped CSS sounds awesome to me. Instead of people being jerks and using the !important flag left and right.
Too bad it doesn't matter because I'll have to support IE7 for the next 30 years
 
@tiddy The primary use case here I believe is I have embedded widgets and the like, where your CSS is essentially operating in an environment with other styles already declared
 
5:48 PM
@Sterno I finally got them to kick IE7, IE8 will always be on my list, however.
 
@OrigamiRobot Whenever I see DIN in all caps I think of the font
 
So they choose embedded styles over a linked stylesheet?
 
@RonanForman news?
 
@tiddy I don't think the specs have landed yet. Browser support is close to nil right now
 
I personally just find it much easier to have a linked sheet that scopes under a class.
reusable anywhere without c/p'ing code
 
5:53 PM
@fredley I don't know anymore!
 
@RonanForman Gah, I want to come in and take a look
 
@RonanForman :(
I worked so hard T_T
 
@OrigamiRobot We still have the worlds.
 
@RonanForman Fiiiix iiiiiiiit
 
5:55 PM
@RonanForman Did the chunk loaders start screwing with your map as well??
 
@James I think so.
 
@Ullallulloo We must build a great ark
 
@RonanForman We saw a huge amount of spam spewing from them towards the end of our last map. Never did figure out if it was a specific type of chunk loader or not.
 
No gods or kings, only man - Original.
No gods nor kings, only man - Is this also correct in English?
 

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