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1:00 PM
I should flag it because I'm sad it's not rendering "right".
 
The only drama I can see is flagging someone who keeps doing that just to be an annoying jacktard.
 
So many boxes.
 
I guess I'll see!
 
Since it's not getting flagged, and you can't flag your own stuff, there's only one possible scenario. @Sterno is the flagger!
 
Well, it was a mod that flagged the other stuff.
 
1:02 PM
I do all my flagging through my @kalina sockpuppet account.
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Dear whoever removed their star from my message: I hate you.
It was probably @Wipqozn. That kid can't control his stars at all.
 
@StrixVaria I'm not an owner right now.
 
@Wipqozn Yes but you can give and revoke your own star.
 
@StrixVaria I only just got here.
 
@Wipqozn So you claim.
There's definitely some kind of conspiracy going through the bridge. I'm going to spread rumors until I root out the cabal.
 
1:07 PM
@StrixVaria Good idea.
 
@fredley The first time is always the worst
 
@Sterno YOU GONNA GET FLAGGED
 
and there we go.
 
sigh
 
Not me this time
 
1:08 PM
@ManishEarth It got approved.
 
I was going to decline and delete
I know
Oh well, I'll unsuspend
(unless you folks prefer him in the penalty box)
@badp what say?
 
@ManishEarth I added a new feed. It posted a bunch of stuff.
 
?
Sterno got chatbanned
 
oh.
 
Unsuspend?
 
1:10 PM
eh. go ahead I guess?
 
(seems logical -- it wasn't offensive)
 
Not you guys too I've already got my daily dose of drama and it's only 8 AM
 
welcome back @Sterno
 
I'm still not convinced that Zalgo text = drama. It just seems like an automatic "ban me" button
 
1:11 PM
The "destroy user" and "anonymize messages" buttons are sooo temptingly close to the "unsuspend" button.
 
Yes. Yes they are
You know, I'm yet to destroy somebody off chat. and I destroy users on the main site all the time!
We clearly need a volunteer.
 
@badp Create socks, destroy
fun!
 
TIL that validating a chat flag will also kick the user from chat. AWESOME!
 
Good morning Bridge! =)
 
@YannisRizos today?
 
1:12 PM
@YannisRizos ...you learned that today?
 
@ManishEarth @badp Yeap, I've been ignoring chat flags for... ever.
 
@YannisRizos You clearly have not been handling chat flags proportionate to the amount of time you spend in chat. Chat Diamond---Revoked.
 
@badp Not sure destroying a chat account does much, they can just make it again from any SE account
Might delete their messages though?
 
So, I'm guessing it goes like this?
1. Someone posts Zalgo text.
2. Someone else flags Zalgo text just because it's amusing to them to do so.
3. People from elsewhere see what looks like garbled spam and confirm flag.
4. Person in #2 giggles themselves silly
 
@BenBrocka you did science about it?
 
1:14 PM
Not yet, gimme your account
 
@Sterno #2 is a problem bigger than Zalgo text
 
@badp I know who #2 is
 
@BenBrocka Oh boy don't I have accounts for you
although I can't recreate that one
 
you killed your sockpuppet?! You monster!
 
New proposal - user needs 102 rep on the chat's parent site to flag in the chatroom.
 
1:17 PM
@BenBrocka Unfortunately he's been recreated
@tombull89 Thank you but no thank you
 
New proposal; if a mod has to undo an automatic suspension, all flagging users get suspended instead
 
@BenBrocka YAY
 
@BenBrocka You have my vote.
 
@badp what happened to his rep?
 
specially because mods can't see spam flaggers
 
1:17 PM
Morning, Bridge
 
If somebody starts posting goatse on the WebApps chat we need to act on that too.
 
Ooh, hey someone I haven't met before!
Hi, @ManishEarth
 
@BenBrocka Science
 
Hello :)
 
@badp spam flag?
 
1:18 PM
...what is happening here this time?
 
@BenBrocka yeah
 
okay, user needs an account on the parent site.
 
@fredley Sure. I'm about to leave for work, but I'll ping you when I get back and we'll get you set up.
 
@badp you can undo spam flags, it's a hidden feature :)
 
@GraceNote Zalgo bans
 
1:19 PM
@ManishEarth wat
 
@ManishEarth In chat?
 
5 mins ago, by Sterno
So, I'm guessing it goes like this?
1. Someone posts Zalgo text.
2. Someone else flags Zalgo text just because it's amusing to them to do so.
3. People from elsewhere see what looks like garbled spam and confirm flag.
4. Person in #2 giggles themselves silly
@GraceNote no, on main
 
Ah. Okay. That I know about.
 
@badp Go to the spam-bombed post belonging to that sock, click the mod menu. You'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
7 mins ago, by Yannis Rizos
TIL that validating a chat flag will also kick the user from chat. AWESOME!
 
1:20 PM
@YannisRizos How did you... how many years have you been a mod?
 
Is Zalgo text something I can look up at work?
 
Give me more buttons to click, I'm an expert at clicking buttons!
 
@SaintWacko yes
 
7 mins ago, by ManishEarth
@YannisRizos You clearly have not been handling chat flags proportionate to the amount of time you spend in chat. Chat Diamond---Revoked.
 
Also, so much blue
 
1:21 PM
@SaintWacko It's text that has weird gibberish written above and below it through text unit nonsense.
 
@SaintWacko eeemo.net
 
26 mins ago, by tombull89
See also this SO answer.
 
@GraceNote Oh, that stuff
 
oh, and, also:
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Q: Let me opt out of viewing chat flags

MDMarraI'm not a moderator. I have ~50k rep on Server Fault. I am a regular in chat. Because chat allows all 10k+ users across the network to act on chat flags, I (and many other regulars in SF chat) see some problematic users from other chats flagging things that aren't actually offensive. I disagree...

 
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1:21 PM
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Huh
 
3...2...1...
 
So it's not even pastable in chat?
 
@SaintWacko it is
I see it
 
@GraceNote 13 months. Always something new to learn, this Stack Exchange thing is complicated...
 
For some people it will display right.
 
1:22 PM
@ManishEarth Oh, I must not have something needed
Interesting
What browser do you use?
 
@SaintWacko Fonts.
 
@YannisRizos You spend enough time outside of this room, then, I guess, and the Maths room.
 
@ManishEarth Ah
 
@SaintWacko Chrome stable on Ubuntu Precise, not sure about extra fonts
 
1:22 PM
That stuff doesn't even work for me. It's just a bunch of squares
 
That would explain it, then. This is my work computer. It doesn't have any extra fonts
@badp Same here
 
Being the two rooms wherein the complaints are more about the consequences of flagging moreso than, say, Comms Rooms arhugnannery about seeing flags at all.
 
@badp I don't see them on my Android tablet, otherwise they work everywhere else for me
 
@tombull89 Why is mine all boxes instead of beautiful Zalgo?
 
@GraceNote arhugnannery?
 
1:24 PM
@StrixVaria Dunno - FireFox on Win 7 here.
 
@StrixVaria We're all missing some font or another
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Windows 8, Chrome 27
 
I think it's due to how browsers deal with unicode
 
Windows 7, Chrome 25 here
 
Huh, yeah, it's broken in Chrome
 
1:24 PM
@SaintWacko Don't think it's fonts, Zalgo works on some sites, not in chat
 
@BenBrocka That's true, it does show up on that eeemo site
 
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Q: How does Zalgo text work?

MikeI've seen weirdly formatted text called Zalgo like below written on various forums. It's kind of annoying to look at, but it really bothers me because it undermines my notion of what a character is supposed to be. My understanding is that a character is supposed to move horizontally across a line...

 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Yeah, works on Firefox 20
 
@StrixVaria You have fallen from his favor.
 
Maybe Chrome devs don't think Zalgo is very funny and broke it?
CLEARLY WE MUST FILE A BUG
 
1:26 PM
Chat uses Verdana. If you change the font to Arial it works in Chrome
 
@Sterno Oh, wow, that's some impressive Zalgo on that answer
 
@SaintWacko Say it out loud and it'll be pretty clear as to what it means.
 
Try running document.body.style.fontFamily = 'Helvetica'; in your console
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@GraceNote I think I'm pronouncing it wrong...
 
@SaintWacko I must be too.
 
1:27 PM
@YiJiang'sEvilClone That did it
Cool
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone This fixed it but now everything is Arial which is unpleasant.
 
Now chat looks funny
 
Firefox automatically falls back when it can't find the correct glyph, whereas Chrome doesn't. That's my hypothesis anyway.
 
@StrixVaria Yeah, I think I'll go back
 
@StrixVaria Just refresh
 
1:27 PM
Poof!
 
Could be worse. Could be Comic Sans or Papyrus.
 
@SaintWacko The "u" is a long ooooooooo sound.
 
@tombull89 I don't think either of those have the correct glyphs either :P
 
@GraceNote Stupid idea: Maybe writing out the consequences of an action directly where the button is to perform it would make sense for validating chat flags? The auto-suspension is completely unexpected if you never were involved in any of the drama around it.
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@YiJiang'sEvilClone Already done.
 
1:28 PM
Ahaha
Try changing the font to Courier and looking at the Zalgo
 
@tombull89 When I was going through the CodeAcademy course for CSS, I found out my browser's default font for "cursive" is Comic Sans.
 
@MadScientist to meta!
 
@StrixVaria Ew
 
@MadScientist I'm not sure if you're being honest about considering that a stupid idea. I don't think it's a bad idea at all, although it leads to a very bulky tooltip.
 
@MadScientist Also, let mods see who flagged what when it comes to spam/offensive flags
 
1:29 PM
@SaintWacko I second and triple that "ew".
 
@ManishEarth My chat flag feature requests are completely ignored so far, why should I add another one
 
Comic Sans is terrible.
 
@MadScientist Hmm, I think someone already brought this up
 
@Sterno when did I become your sockpuppet?
 
@MadScientist nah, that's logical and a good idea. Doesn't go down well on MSO.
 
1:29 PM
How do I open Chrome's console again?
 
F12
 
@Fluttershy ctrl-shift-I or J
 
@Fluttershy Ctrl + Shift + I
 
@ManishEarth Ooh this is even fancier than F12.
 
@kalina Considering how sockpuppets are operated, I'd be worried
 
1:30 PM
@StrixVaria F12 is Firebug I think, not sure if it works with Chrome
 
You'd think you'd notice that sort of thing
 
@StrixVaria I for inspector, J for JS console.
 
@GraceNote I was sarcastic. But my impression is that SE does not want to fix anything about the chat flags. There were so many discussions about that already and nothing ever happened.
 
@StrixVaria But it's more keys!
 
Thanks!
 
1:30 PM
@kalina June 7, 2012
 
Although F12 normally opens my popout OS console, so I suppose ctrl-shift-J would be better
 
I think when a user validates a chat flag, it should show the Companion Cube being destroyed and call them a murderer.
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@MadScientist There is resistance to certain changes but I wouldn't say we're deadset against the prospect. Speaking as someone who is in Stack Exchange and doesn't completely enjoy how chat flags are handled currently.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone I am using Chrome right now and pressing F12 and getting useful information.
 
Oh, I can already tell I'm going to use up my stars fast today
 
1:31 PM
@Sterno interesting
 
Do we have any policy on how to tag off-topic questions? Quite often the only applicable tag will have been deleted, like game-rec.
 
Skyrim 1.9 patch finally fixes the courier showing up naked except for hat bug
 
@kotekzot , because then everybody cries a river and the question gets deleted or retagged
 
@kotekzot The lack of applicable tags is usually a sign of off-topicness. We don't so much bother tagging them so much as get them deleted eventually.
 
Devil's advocate: Deleted questions have tags too. It helps if game-rec questions are tagged before they're deleted.
 
1:34 PM
Ahahaha, Bethesda blog's age check is completely broken. I just hit continue without entering anything for my age and the thing just let me through
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Heh, nice
 
Good morning, Bridge.
 
@MadScientist slightly different, though
 
Hey @fbueckert
 
1:34 PM
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Why must they ruin everything beautiful?
 
@ManishEarth The last sentence mentions it as an alternative
 
There's a water main break not far from work!
 
You're late.
 
@fbueckert Oh, is that why?
 
1:35 PM
A Mod is never late, nor early. They arrive precisely when they want to.
(sorry Gandalf)
 
@SaintWacko Is that why what?
 
@tombull89 moderators are not cool enough to paraphrase Gandalf
 
citation needed
 
@kalina Good thing tombull89 isn't a moderator to be doing that.
 
I just keep hearing "TomBull gives you wings!" in my head.
 
1:41 PM
 
This has been long overdue
 
@Sterno chuckle
 
@badp You named your broom "Gaming Stack Exchange"?
 
1:43 PM
@YiJiang'sEvilClone shovel
 
I wonder if I shouldn't change the name too
 
@OrigamiRobot Hey, that sounds like me! I'm currently waiting for an EA rep to chat with me about merging my two Origin accounts. =D
 
Never meddle in the affairs of moderators, for they are quick to anger and not particularly subtle.
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@badp So, that's a large wooden sign that counts as a shovel, a broken bottle, an axe, one's own fist, a saw, and a kukri.
 
@Fluttershy You will surely get the Karkand.
 
1:47 PM
@GraceNote yes. A bat, too.
 
@GraceNote Although in the item schema, its item_class is just listed as "saxxy"
 
@GraceNote do they always get deleted? I thought they hang around.
 
Are there any bat-based achievements?
 
Of course, the actual Saxxy also counts as a knife and a wrench
 
@GraceNote Non-stock bats do
 
1:48 PM
@kotekzot If it's completely off-topic, why should it stick around?
@badp Oh, so, then it counts as a bat, but because a normal bat doesn't help anything special for achievements, it likewise doesn't have achievements. So it really is a bat. As well as a shovel, a broken bottle, an axe, one's own fist, a saw, and a kukri.
@Powerlord This doesn't actually surprise me.
 
@GraceNote both fists actually. The heavy can punch with either the left or the right fist
I think the difference is mainly cosmetic though.
 
@GraceNote Oh, by the way, it only counts as one of those at any given time, depending on which class you're playing.
 
> By default, the primary fire key throws a left-handed punch, while the secondary fire key throws a right-handed punch; this has no effect on gameplay, as both fists have the same speed, hitbox, and damage, if and when they make contact.
 
But of course.
 
(I don't know why the page says "by default" as this isn't configurable)
 
1:51 PM
@badp Is it flipped for a left-handed mouse?
 
So my fortress fell last night
 
@GraceNote I don't think so, but you can flip all the viewmodels if you so desire.
 
I went to check on a friend who wasn't feeling good, and forgot to pause DF
And I wasn't at the point where I could do that yet
So my fortress fell to a tantrum spiral
 
I believe flipping viewmodels also changes how everyone else sees you, but I'm not positive on that. I would certainly hope so, seeing as it switches which side Soldiers fire rockets from.
 
I'm reclaiming it now
 
1:52 PM
@Powerlord it does?!
 
It's full of ghosts and corpses
 
@badp Yes. Also, flipping viewmodels only takes effect on the next server connect after you change it (to prevent people from scripting viewmodel changes to change rocket side)
 
@GraceNote ideally they shouldn't, but in reality, are they going to hang around clogging up our tubes?
 
@SaintWacko It always amused me that this was enough of a common occurrence that it has an official term.
@kotekzot If we're on top of things, we do not let them stick around. That's really the simple of it.
 
I missed all the drama :-(
 
1:54 PM
iirc, Soldier rockets usually fire from the right side, but they fire from the left if you flip viewmodels. Obviously, this doesn't affect The Original, which fires from the center.
 
@GraceNote Yeah, it's kinda awesome :D
 
@GraceNote fair enough, thanks.
 
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What about answers that are (inferior) copies of earlier answers to the same question? They sometimes crop up in the flag review queue, but nobody seems to either agree or disagree with those flags.
 

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