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6:01 PM
I think both are acceptable. The thing you have to watch out for is the difference between either... or and neither... nor
 
@RonanForman I wouldn't be super heartbroken about having to restart anyway. I'd have fun helping build the spawn village.
 
This is not no good!
 
@OrigamiRobot I'd lose all my bees! They have feelings too.
 
@RonanForman I'd have to rebuild my biomass setup!
 
6:05 PM
Stupid dropbox, I click how do I link files or folders and it just tells me about files.
 
that is indeed stupid
 
@RonanForman AFAIK you can only share individual files or top level directories but not subfolders
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Then why say you can?
Anyway, this is our latest crash report: dl.dropbox.com/u/895336/crash-reports/…
 
What say you can?
 
@RonanForman well that clearly says it's broken, why don't you fix it?
 
6:07 PM
> Is Modded: Definitely; Server brand changed to 'forge,fml'
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone "How do I link to a folder" implies I can link to a folder.
@OrigamiRobot fml = forge mod loader.
 
@OrigamiRobot it's broken because of your silly building thing
you broked it
 
@RonanForman I know. It's still funny that it says "Definitely"
@kalina fredley has way more silly things than me.
 
1 hour ago, by OrigamiRobot
I blame @fredley
 
sorry but @fredley is beyond blaming
2013 is the year of blame @OrigamiRobot
8
 
6:08 PM
But it was probably all the mystcraft ages I was generating.
 
@RonanForman What error are you getting?
 
4 mins ago, by Ronan Forman
Anyway, this is our latest crash report: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/895336/crash-reports/crash-2013-03-21_17.47.55-server.txt
 
@kalina whats different from 2012 in that?
 
2012 was blame @Wipqozn
I thought you were a regular, @Blem?
 
Every year is blame @Wipqozn
 
6:11 PM
wrong, 2013 is the year of blame @OrigamiRobot
it's on the star list and everything
(against my wishes)
 
It was blame badp in 2011
 
@kalina Blame @Wipqozn is in the FAQ
 
I am, but I get distracted easily and don't pay attention to chat
 
@RonanForman Clear list of chunkloaders, they'll need to be replaced
 
@OrigamiRobot then I will submit a request to have it changed
 
6:12 PM
@kalina Things on the star list are always true, sockpuppet of mine.
 
@fredley But the blocks remain?
 
@RonanForman Yes, you're not touching level data
 
Cool.
 
@RonanForman The blocks won't load chunks though, until they're replaced
 
Minecraft blows chunks
 
6:13 PM
@kalina Get a room
 
@OrigamiRobot this is the sound of your being jealous again
 
@Sterno Stars are always lies
4
 
@kalina Chunks, in this case, have blown Minecraft.
 
AHA @OrigamiRobot nice try.
 
Server's up! (I hope)
 
6:14 PM
> You have fully used your vote allowance for today
 
@RonanForman server's down
 
:(
 
@kalina S H I P P I N G
 
@kalina On?
 
@kalina Nice try.
 
6:14 PM
@OrigamiRobot starring me
 
Stop trying to push the truth about ponies down.
 
@kalina Wasn't me.
 
@RonanForman Lol, server is fucked, check logs
 
@OrigamiRobot liar
@RonanForman told you it was down
 
@fredley It's refusing you access.
 
6:15 PM
@RonanForman :(
@RonanForman A-why?
 
@fredley: DENIED
 
2 hours ago, by OrigamiRobot
I am responsible for maybe 25% of the @kalina stars I get blamed for.
 
@kalina :'(
 
@OrigamiRobot so you say
 
I could prove it if you hadn't deleted it, but you are scared of the truth
 
6:16 PM
@OrigamiRobot I am never scared of the truth
 
@fredley Were you in age > 15?
 
I've never starred an innuendo by you.
 
@kalina The truth is scared of you
@RonanForman I was in HS
With, like, all my quarries
Put me back in world 0 and see if that fixes
 
I'm on the server though.
 
@fredley they're all gone, sorry but those chunks were blown
 
6:18 PM
@kalina @RonanForman needs to blow chunks for the good of us all
 
@fredley Try connecting now.
 
@RonanForman still down
 
No
 
@fredley You were in High School? You know, that explains a lot. Including the chunk blowing.
 
@RonanForman Try going to HS and confirm its ID.
 
6:21 PM
Uh oh, I'm getting an internal server error when clicking on the book.
 
I can't believe you broke it
 
Oh noooooooooooooo
Grab those backups!
 
preferably backups from before @OrigamiRobot did all the things
 
@OrigamiRobot Yay!
 
Can anyone remember exactly what the message they got in the Steam beta popup when Steam had to update?
 
6:23 PM
@fredley Is HS ok? Please tell me it's ok!
 
@OrigamiRobot Precious, precious HS
Internal Server Error
 
3 hours ago, by OrigamiRobot
user image
 
Did you made HS before or after explosion forest?
Because that's Id 10.
 
Well after
 
Everyone needs Cocoa
 
6:25 PM
@Powerlord cocaine
 
@OrigamiRobot So HS must be greater than 10
 
@kalina I wouldn't say that everybody need cocaine.
Just some people
 
@RonanForman Just restore from backup
 
@Powerlord I'll stick with coffee, thanks.
 
wtf random flags
 
6:26 PM
@RonanForman How do you know?
 
@kalina I imagine that one depends on context.
If you're referring to the same flag I saw that is.
 
@OrigamiRobot /myst-create [age-ID] makes a copy of the book.
 
@Powerlord regardless of context I don't see how disagreeing with somebody is offensive
 
@kalina Is Maths flagging stupid shit again?
 
@kalina You're wrong!!!! flags post
 
6:27 PM
@RonanForman I thought Explosion Forest was one of the first ones I made.
 
@fbueckert wasn't from math
 
@RonanForman I think HS is 18? But I'm not certain
 
@fbueckert It was from Islam.
 
@OrigamiRobot You weren't the first one to make ages.
 
@RonanForman The ones I made started at Age 1
 
6:28 PM
@Powerlord Thought for sure it would be Math again.
 
In fact, that's almost a total guess
 
@OrigamiRobot it doesn't matter, you turned up, you broke it, and now nobody can play!
 
@fbueckert Id 1 is the end.
 
@RonanForman Fiiiix iiiiiiiit
 
6:29 PM
@RonanForman Well then don't listen to me about age IDs because I was going off the book numbers.
 
@fredley I am!
 
@Powerlord I think I've seen at least 4 flags coming out of that room today
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Flags? What flags?
 
@Coronus flags!
 
@kalina It probably is my fault.
 
6:30 PM
@Coronus you don't have enough rep to see chat flags
@OrigamiRobot I hope you feel bad
 
Aha! We're not out of memory, we're out of disk space!
 
Only a few days until new Luigi's Mansion! \o/
 
@RonanForman so it is his fault... >.>
 
@kalina That explains it. Thanks.
 
:P
 
6:31 PM
Wow, those error messages are non-descriptive.
 
@RonanForman Welcome to error messages
@RonanForman Set up a cron job to cull old backups.
 
@fredley Redo from start?
 
@fredley ??
 
@Powerlord segmentation fault
@RonanForman Ok don't worry, I'll do it when I get access
 
@fredley Guru meditation error
 
6:32 PM
interesting
 
@fredley I can't give you access.
 
I'm not sure if this is me or everybody, but I entered a room associated with a site I don't have an account on and I don't appear in the user list?
 
(anyone have an animated gif of the NES screen flashing? :P )
 
libdc1394 error: Failed to initialize libdc1394
 
6:33 PM
@Powerlord lp0 on fire
 
@RonanForman I know. @TimStone is on it though
 
Of course, the best error message is the one TF2 gives you when you change maps after playing pl_cashworks_final1.
By which I mean it just closes TF2 and drops you to the desktop.
 
Error: ErrorMessage not found
 
@Powerlord Probably why I've never heard of that map...
 
@fredley There's also a limit to the number of backups it keeps.
 
6:36 PM
@RonanForman Oh ok. What was causing disk spage usage then?
 
Absolutely. Physical media is a thing of the past. Get an origins account and the code, and go torrent the game files. There's tons of torrents out there. — Marco Leblanc 48 mins ago
 
Surely not just mystcraft?
 
^ opinions?
 
@fredley I'm guessing it bases it on numbers of saves, so as the world gets bigger...
 
@RonanForman POP
 
6:36 PM
@kalina That question is stupid. The box itself clearly states the game require Origin.
 
@kalina Sounds like he's condoning piracy, I think.
 
@Fluttershy that's how I read it
@YiJiang'sEvilClone meh, the question
 
@Powerlord The dungeon collapses around you
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone this comment though...
 
@Fluttershy Considering this is EA we're talking about, what's the problem?
:P
 
6:38 PM
@SaintWacko The fact that you can't pirate SimCity, supposedly. And we don't deal with piracy. Even if it is against a megacorporation that is mutually hated.
 
@Fluttershy Heh
 
@Fluttershy I don't hate EA, hate is such a strong word
 
@kalina Loathe?
 
@kalina Detest?
 
@kalina Despise?
 
6:39 PM
I don't hate anybody or thing
 
@Fluttershy Yeah. As much as I hate EA, I don't want Arqade getting a rep for, "Hey, check this site out if you need help in less than legit methods."
 
I despair at EA for being stupid but meh
 
@kalina I just gave up on them
I am disappointed in them
 
@SaintWacko they aren't releasing anything special
SimCity is pretty good
 
@kalina Everything they release now is "special"
 
6:40 PM
@SaintWacko Me too. I loved EA up until about 6 years ago. It's been downhill since then
 
@kalina I don't know, none of the torrents actually give you a playable version of the game, right? OTOH I can't see how a torrented version of the game will be recognised by Origin
 
@Coronus It started for me with Command and Conquer 4
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone the only reason you'd torrent the game after registering the game code with Origin would be to use the various hacks that remove the disconnect
 
@RonanForman have you finished deleteing things yet?
 
@fredley I've deleted a few, you see the sizes shoot up on the 20th by 200MiB
(That's compressed)
 
6:42 PM
@RonanForman obviously @OrigamiRobot's fault
 
There isn't a scene or p2p release yet
 
It actually is.
 
@RonanForman ban him for taking the server offline
 
Really it's the backup's fault for using number of backups rather than total size.
 
@kalina We've already established this long ago.
 
6:43 PM
@OrigamiRobot don't start!
 
@OrigamiRobot Clearly you must now change your name to OrigamiRob. Then the blame belongs to someone else.
 
@Coronus ಠ_ಠ
 
@OrigamiRob
 
@kalina ಠ_ಠ
 
ah another script
sudo @OrigamiRob dance
 
6:44 PM
@kalina ಠ_ಠ
 
boo
 
Also old news.
 
Changed it from 100 backups to 50.
 
@RonanForman ...
 
@kalina Perhaps he's one of the few people for which torrents are faster than direct download from the server? It's still a stupid comment that should be deleted
 
6:45 PM
@fredley What?
 
@Fluttershy You can't? That would come as a surprise to the guy who modified SimCity and has shown that it can indeed run without the EA servers.
 
@RonanForman impatience
 
@fredley Starting up the server now.
 
@RonanForman Unacceptable. This backup is very old
 
@fredley Really?
 
6:46 PM
My tree farm and boiler is completely gone
@RonanForman No machine room
 
Crappppp1!!!1!!!!!!!!one!!11!
 
now look what you've done @OrigamiRob
 
No @OrigamiRobot base at all
 
poor @OrigamiRob
 
It says it was last edited an hour and a half ago.
 
6:47 PM
@kalina ಠ_ಠ
 
@RonanForman Lol no
 
Maybe I got the wrong one.
 
@Powerlord He only removed the 20 minute offline kick. The game still doesn't save offline, which means you're still dependent on the server
 
@RonanForman I think that's the backup you restored that time a chunk reset ate my frame quarry... Maybe not
 
Has it really not been saving the backups?
 
6:50 PM
@fredley UNACCEPTABLE
 
@OrigamiRobot your fault
 
Give it a rest already.
 
So lucky I still have the world that's current (minus the couple of ages I deleted)
 
@RonanForman Restore that one?
 
@OrigamiRobot insert lemongrab video here
 
6:52 PM
Did we actually have anything in HS?
 
@RonanForman @fredley!
 
I find this mildly amusing
 
I can make a new world with that ID and you'll spawn in that
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone I find it amusing that you starred that.
 
@RonanForman w/e
 
6:53 PM
@RonanForman And my only quarry T_T
 
It had better be as good as hunger shade though
 
@OrigamiRobot I can give you it back.
 
@OrigamiRobot Items lost through server administrator failure will be restored
 
Also, I might be in HS!
This is the saddest day of my life
 
@fredley It's not me, I was assuming this mod was working.
 
6:54 PM
@OrigamiRobot I find consternation like that, genuine or otherwise, rather amusing
 
@James What backup mod do you use?
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone I find it mildly paradoxical
 
@RonanForman McMyAdmin
 
@OrigamiRobot You'll show up wherever your player file was at the backup restored
 
Internal server error
 
6:55 PM
But we only do backups when upgrading mods and the like really.
 
@Unionhawk I know. I was IN the world that's now deleted.
 
@YiJiang'sEvilClone But Ben Brocka's statement is demonstrably false!
 
We do do system restarts once every 24 hrs and /save-all every 15min to make sure things are sync'd to the disc
 
@Sterno Or true.
 
@OrigamiRobot It will just generate it around you man, no worries there
 
6:56 PM
Depending on when you go insane
 
@OrigamiRobot Hmm. Okay, your playerfile might need to be deleted/edited then? I don't know how that works.
 
@RonanForman Move me into the main world
 
How?
 
@SaintWacko Yes. It's the liar's paradox again, isn't it?
 
@Unionhawk Works just like minecraft always works, A player wants a chunk to load, it does not exist, so load it in :D
 
6:56 PM
@James Generated from what?
 
I can't create world 18 (HS) it's still registered.
 
WTF is going on
 
@OrigamiRobot The same seed and generation algorithm that made it in the first place
 
@RonanForman Edit level.dat
 
@James That no longer exists.
 
6:57 PM
With what?
 
@OrigamiRobot Did the level.dat file get deleted as well as the chunk files?
 
@RonanForman NBTedit should help, and it'd be the individual player.dat file, I think. I don't know
Is /tpx a thing?
 
@Unionhawk Yes
 
@Unionhawk Mystcraft command
 
But I can't even log in
 
6:58 PM
 
@James I assume Ronan deleted the entire age
 
@RonanForman Ok, what did you do and what are you trying to do man?
 
@SaintWacko Dwarf Fortress has the best description text.
 
@SaintWacko elves! BURN THEM.
 
We dick around and delete/clean up mystcraft worlds all the time
 
6:59 PM
@fbueckert I love it
 
rm is a dangerous command
 
rm -rf is a dangerous command :D
 
@James He deleted an age I was in, and now I can't log in
 
@fredley What error do you get?
 
@James Error messages suck, I deleted some myst ages, fredley is in one, I can't restore a backup because the program I was using for some reason wasn't working.
 
6:59 PM
I think the dimension that the player is in is in the NBT data of the player file. I don't know.
 
@RonanForman Do you know the id of the age?
 

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