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8:02 PM
more vandalism yay
 
Did I understood it correctly that need to write a question at 6 o'clock to get that The hatter hat? in the end that means any time like 8pm right?
 
We just missed one option, (I plain forgot) so the next is in 52 minutes.
Last year I also had the impression that some hats were not given out in the last few days. I am certain I did the right things on two occations but did not get the hat.
So do get the hats early.
 
@Willeke I asked my question at 20:00:03 I hope that was not too late
 
Should be the whole minute, so you should be right.
I will have to think up a few questions.
 
8:24 PM
@rekire for which hat?
 
@bluefeet i think it's mad hatter, i had no idea what commenced while i was gone
 
Mad hatter
 
@rekire Did you already have it on SO?
 
apparently it has something to do with 6 o'clock and thursday and saturday
 
people got it yesterday... that's a Wednesday
 
8:26 PM
or something
im not too sure
 
Saturday has not happened so that make it hard to prove unless there is a theory which would indicate that it fits in
 
@bluefeet forget about the hint for blue in the face, we desperately need this. or do we, because it was only like 1 day
 
need what?
 
Hatter Hint
 
@bluefeet a mad hatter clue, because based on the theories right now, and the other hat's triggers, we're totally off
 
8:30 PM
@MasterBob The time based ones are usually easy... perform any action during a given timeframe to get them... So I don't think the hatter is only 1 day
 
Wait for @David
He apparently knows
 
@MasterBob eh, people just discovered it. I'm not sure it needs a hint...yet
 
@bluefeet true, andrew li was wondering before if there was any more hats
i guess he was right
 
You'll just have to wait and see
 
@bluefeet is the criteria for 8,243,721 correct on the docs?
And the elementary on the Meta Post?
 
8:33 PM
@bleh 8,243,721, either it takes 10 hours to award or the OP cannot get it
 
@bleh it's about deleting comments from what I have seen the GDoc talks about creating comments
 
@bleh nope
 
So it shouldn't have even a red checkmark?
 
We determined that deleting 10 (maybe 5) comments which have at least +1 seems to get the hat.
 
I am pretty sure that Mild Mannered is for starting to use a new site. (And maybe gettng an accepted answer there.)
 
8:34 PM
we had 3 or 4 people do that and get the hat successfully
including myself
 
@bleh I have no idea your system, but as I said earlier when someone posted it in here, it wasn't correct
 
@TheSharpieOne no, i did that and i didnt get the hat, i only got blue in the face
 
^^^
 
@MasterBob comments most likely have to be outside of the edit timeframe... not the ones you spam
 
I did comments from March and April.
 
8:37 PM
@TheSharpieOne well i tried it with alexander o'mara and i didnt get the hat... but he did
 
I did some older comments (trying to find ones that were ok to be deleted and had at least +1)
 
Deleting some old upvoted comments of mine got me 8,243,721
 
@MasterBob Also, probably not all in the same post
blue in the face is about a convo on the same question, 8,243,721 may need to be different questions/answers
 
Any thoughts on 6?
 
@rekire did you get your hat for your 20:00 post?
 
8:39 PM
@TheSharpieOne rekire says he got the hat tho too
 
I tried posting an answer at xx:06 Maybe it needs to be a question.
 
@MasterBob rekire was participating in various thing around that time, deleting comments from various questions
 
If you are curious, I'm willing to offer another hint on not one but 2 hats.
5
 
@bluefeet right from the docs about 6: Got this hat after making a series of “comment then flag” actions for answers that were Not An Answer or Very Low Quality.
 
@bluefeet What's it going to cost us?
3
 
8:41 PM
and this: Got this hat when I worked with low quality post queue. Edited some of thiat posts, commented on them, raised couple of flags too. No tags editing involved.
 
@TheSharpieOne hmm, I'll have to think about that.
 
Or an obvious hint on one hat??
 
@bluefeet uh oh, im a bit scared about that
@TheSharpieOne why did you have to ask about that?
 
@MasterBob because of the way it was worded
 
@Willeke yes :D
 
8:42 PM
@rekire so that seems confirmed
 
@bluefeet the hatter
 
post a question on the hour (when it is 6 o'clock somewhere) gets the hatter
3
 
I have eleven hats, but I haven't gotten that hat for having eleven hats...
 
Ok no hint for hatter then
@mbomb007 1 site?
 
@mbomb007 11 hats on a single site?
 
8:43 PM
"somewhere"? wouldnt that cover a broad range
 
Oh, it has to be a single site?
 
yeah
 
@MasterBob Yep. That means there are 24 possible times. One on each hour
 
@mbomb007 on the hour? by what range?
 
@MasterBob shrug. I'll test it in 15 minutes.
 
8:45 PM
should not the 6 o'clock question also be upvoted?
 
30 mins ago, by rekire
@Willeke I asked my question at 20:00:03 I hope that was not too late
and he got it
 
So maybe it's a one-minute window?
 
That doesn't make sense. My two questions were posted yesterday at 16:44:44 UTC and 20:15:35 UTC, and I got Hatter.
 
HH:00:00 - HH:00:59
@TimmyD Did you post an answer on the hour?
 
My only answer yesterday was at 15:03:46 UTC.
 
8:48 PM
there was a hatter for this one as well
 
Comment on the hour?
 
@TimmyD possibly 5 min range?
 
could it be, every 15 minute chance instead of an hour?
 
5 minute i think
 
Maybe it's 6 minutes
:P
 
8:49 PM
@mbomb007 Nothing that's closer to on-the-hour than already listed.
 
@mbomb007 nah, that would be for 6
 
Would 10 minutes fit? bluefeet did say that 10 was a nice number.
 
@mbomb007 only for blue in the face
 
Thanks @rekire
 
Question: What's the delay for the repcap hat? Do I need to wait until end of UTC? Or there is there another catch to it?
 
8:51 PM
There are a lot of numbers this year. They are a part of many of the hats
18
Q: Why are so many hats named after numbers? What do the numbers mean?

gungThe names for Winter Bash hats are often puns or refer to something. This year, several of the hats are named as some number, which is a little more opaque. Why are numbers so popular this year? What do they refer to for each hat? Here are the number-named hats for reference: Secret hats: 180...

 
In the last 4 days, I've repcapped 3 times. The 4th, I went over 200 but didn't repcap. Of the 3 days that I repcapped, 2 of them only reached 190 because of an unupvote event. But those two days were repcaps.
 
@TimmyD there are some crazy timezones with 15 and 45 minutes offset I guess. India has something with 30 AFIK
 
I thought I'd drop by and say that I just got the 6 hat. It seems relevant that it seemed to come in following my 6th answer of the day.
 
@bluefeet does the hat "6" have to do with making a certain number of comment/certain number of identical comments
 
@EmilyM identical comments wouldn't be useful.
 
8:54 PM
yes they are if they are on different posts
 
Also I saw that another person got the Hatter hat despite only having 2 posts ever and they were both 2 days ago (I don't think that was the 4th or 6th day of the week)
 
for example having a biolerplate comment for "this is a link only answer please add more details content"
they could have made and deleted a post @Vemonus
 
Secret Hat Hint #2: This time for 2 hats 6 and 8,243,721. Bert & Ernie have always been companions. As companions, they could work together with each other. — bluefeet ♦ 10 secs ago
6
 
Solution: Create two socket puppet accounts that work together to get 6 upvotes.
 
@Mysticial #fired #banned
 
8:58 PM
So, delete a comment that has 6+ upvotes?
 
you an another person both flag a post with the same reason? or both comment about the same thing?
 
there are never hats for flagging
 
I did have someone ask me to make a comment for them because they had too low rep, so I made the comment for them
 
@bluefeet Are there any other strings attached to the Third Time's A Charm hat?
Or does it not count days where you repcap without hitting 200?
 
@Mysticial there shouldn't be.
 
9:02 PM
and they originally had posted the comment as an answer
 
@bluefeet I'll wait until after midnight UTC to see if I get it. But I remember in previous years I got it as as soon as I hit it. Assuming repcaps are counted as they've always been, then the < 200 caps that I have today and December 19th should count.
 
@Mysticial on SO?
 
yeah
19th - 190 repcap, 1 unupvote
20th - 210 no repcap
21st - 200 repcap
22nd - 190 repcap, 1 unupvote
But the unupvotes should be registering as vote deletion events on the day they were originally cast. So it shouldn't get in the way of the normal repcap calculation.
 
I think the question upvote for the hatter is also necessary
just got it on SO
 
I edited a tag wiki (only one) with no edit description, and I received 6 immediately after.
 
9:09 PM
I did edit a Wiki tag yesterday and did not get a hat for it, as far as I could see.
Unless it is mild mannered.
 
Did you put an edit description?
Because I didn't.
 
@mbomb007 link?
 
@bluefeet can you manually give users hats?
 
Jan
> This Is Fine — Answer a question with an active bounty and receive an upvote, but not the bounty. The answer must have been posted after the start of Winter Bash 2016.
 
9:13 PM
@bleh no
 
I did not, I never do on tags.
 
Ok thanks
 
Jan
This description is incorrect. See the bounty, answers and awarded hats on this question. All answers were posted before Winterbash yet they got the hat.
What I could not confirm yet is whether the answer has to have been posted during the bounty period. (Assuming yes)
 
@Mysticial they are just calculating the total rep for the day as being >= 200 to get it, so the unupvotes are what stopped it.
 
@mbomb007 I have 6 and no tag wiki edits
 
9:17 PM
@DJMcMayhem Maybe they is more than one way to get it.
 
I got 6 while I was asleep last night, so I have no idea
At least I think so. I saw the hat notification as soon as I got on this morning
But definitely no tag wiki edits
 
Did either of you post at least 6 comments?
In the hours before getting that hat?
 
Six comments in the last six hours.
I also deleted (more than) six comments.
And received the 8,243,721 hat.
 
maybe 6 is for 6 edits?
 
I may have deleted six comments with upvotes.
@rekire I'm not sure if I edited six times. I may have.
 
9:23 PM
I haven't been editing very much
 
Yep, I did
 
I think you may need to post 6 comments and deleted 8,3...
 
@mbomb007 you can check it
 
I can go check though
I only have three edits in the last two days, and one of them was on my own post
 
@mbomb007 in one case you got this: added 6 characters in body^^
 
9:26 PM
@rekire And later... "deleted 6 characters in body"
And that was on my edit where I got 6!
 
Hmm...
 
sorry I missed it
 
@bluefeet ooooh. Thanks. I'll update the meta post to clarify.
 
gn8
 
9:43 PM
I got me the hatter, posted at 22:00:50 or something close to that, as the question did not take first try.
 
Aww... Rep-recalcs used to be able to "move" an unupvote event so that it deducts on the day the vote was cast rather than the day of the unupvote. That doesn't work anymore. :(
 
10:03 PM
I have spread more than 6 comments on the site, but if at least one needs an upvote, it might not be clear when/why I got the hat.
 
@Willeke Dang, I wasn't here for the hour.
I think I'll be able to get a gold badge, though. I'm close to 500 edits.
 
Set your alarm, (and have a question ready for posting.)
 
...
 
I love my gold hat, (as you can see.)
 
I just got Don't Wanna Taco Bout it
On PPCG
 
10:08 PM
how do I get the exact timestamp of a comment?
 
Mouse over the time
 
Maybe Don't Wanna Taco Bout It is related to being gone from chat for a while...
 
@mbomb007 do you know how you got it? I have been editing questions for a couple of hours but no hat.
 
@Willeke I was AFK.
 
10:09 PM
???
 
All I did was come back to this chat room, and I got it.
As soon as I clicked on the tab
 
Might try that, by going to bed and return after work tomorrow.
 
hey can I get a mod to nuke a chat message history really fast?
 
Ping one.
 
already did, he hasn't responded
and this is like high-rep user fest
 
10:11 PM
Flag or have someone flag the message
 
I have found that helpful in an other chat on this site.
 
10:23 PM
I'm so confused.
I just got Elementary
 
@alecxe nope that fits my theory. (I had looked at him before)
@bleh rather sure I do now, so yes.
 
@TheSharpieOne not quite. you are missing 3 cases.
 
And honestly, I didn't edit the title
Just the tag. I have no idea how that period got removed.
 
do you remember the hints I left here yesterday?
8 hours ago, by David
@Panda timezones
19 hours ago, by David
@AlexanderO'Mara well let me say "it is good to know your history in more ways then one."
The Hatter is very mush the same as last years 5 O' clock
 
10:39 PM
I'm finally out of school!
@David how do you know?
 
@AndrewLi compare
 
@David Hmm
Have you tested it?
 
@AndrewLi Yes! I got the hats yesterday, and posted my theory here this morning.
 
@David ?
 
@TheSharpieOne :) tis fun to know something that nobody else can get.
8 hours ago, by David
@Panda timezones
 
10:56 PM
I bet one of the Bert or Ernie ones is similar to Cleanup Crew from last year.
 
@mbomb007 I think that is a good guess. One is leave the comments, the other is remove the comments.
 
^
 
fits with bluefeet's hint.
 
Okay, I need to stop being distracted now. I'm going to post a question a 3 minutes.
 
Rob
Got blue in the face. I've done nothing today except left one comment here
(and edit)
 
10:58 PM
hhave you voted
 
Rob
Oh, yep
But on another post
 
You also chatted, I suppose
 
Rob
When did WB start? 19th?
I want to count my comments.. see if it's a round number
 
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
The clock in the reputation tab is off by one minute!
Arrrrrgh!
>.>
I'll have to post another question later.
I missed it by nine seconds
 
11:49 PM
Who confirmed Elementary??!!
seriously!
Why the heck is there so much confirmed unconfirmed stuff?
 
so far i've ONLY edited 5 posts that were really old, and I got Elementary...
(but I didn't put that up there)
 
Please please please! Do not add a checkmark by something not thoroughly tested and reproduced!
 
@AndrewLi ✔
 
@AndrewLi Never have, and won't. Docs and meta posts are for the real hat maniacs - a title I haven't earned yet...
 
Rob
Does google docs not have a way to lock editing?
 
11:55 PM
Also: Do not deviate from the document format!
 
I totaly agree. too many times already have we have "tested and confirmed" things turn out 100% wrong.
 
Rob
Or can you not put it on 'suggestion only' mode?
 
I added a notice on the meta post and google doc but people seem to refuse to listen
Is 8,243,721 confirmed or no?
 
no
 
Exactly
 
11:56 PM
atleast not that I know of.
 
So no checkmark....
 
@AndrewLi Perhaps you could restrict editing to approved editors, but still continue taking edit suggestions via the comments
 
Too many times theories are tested and "confirmed" by doing things that should get the hat. The important bit is performing tests where the result should not be getting the hat, so when people still do, it proves the theory wrong...
 
what is the theory floating around that is "confirmed?"
 
Rob
@AndrewLi 'To gain edit access' - I don't see any pinned message here to ask for edit access. Also, I appear to have edit access despite never being granted it (?)
 
11:59 PM
@AndrewLi about what? only confirmed theories?
 
I'm seriously considering restricting access to those who request and I approve
 

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