Ye Olde Hat Shoppe

David

04:00

(votes did not match up)

bleh

Another one solved I guess

David

maybe

bleh

bluefeet has been watching

David

@Panda how long of a time frame are we talking?

bleh

But--- how did @Terriblefan get it???

TAsk

04:02

Got Elementary with "Confirmed - Edited 5 questions from 2008 on SO"

David

link

TAsk

So I confirm that too.. :D

bleh

scifi.stackexchange.com/users/40790/terriblefan?tab=activity

David

@TAsk I dont suppose that it mattered if that were answered or not, right?

Rob

So I just got 6

Panda

04:03

@David I did everything in 30 min or 1h at most

@Rob Yea, I think 6 is for 6 total comments on 1 question

Rob

For commenting twice and editing once

I've commented far more than 6 times since WB.. and only twice just now

David

could if just be post 10 comments during the bash?

TAsk

@David Do you mean editing answers ? No I just edited questions only.

Panda

@David For which one?

David

@Panda blue

@TAsk Oh, ok I thought you were editing questions

Panda

04:04

No, can't be, I commented 6 and 9 respectively on Day 1 & 2

I'm sure there's a timeframe

David

right so there is something simple here we are missing

Rob

@Panda No 6 on one question either - I only commented twice

All my actions were on this post for the last 2-3hours

Two comments and one edit

Panda

@Rob Does the question has 10 comments in total?

bleh

2-3 HOURS????

Rob

9 comments

3 deleted with answers

Panda

04:06

Yea, I got 6 yesterday on a answer with 6 comments in total

Rob

I doubt it's 6 comments on a post though. Then everyone would have the hat

Panda

I commented 2 of them

David

@Rob exactly

Panda

But it's still vague

Rob

Remember it took >24 hours for the first appearance

David

04:07

for blue this guywreacks the 10 comments with in X time frame idea

Rob

Plot twist: All secret hats are awarded randomly

bleh

I still say its voting

David

@Rob nah

bleh

@Rob most definitely not

Rob

I wasn't being serious :)

David

04:08

I know

bleh

^^

maybe a bug

Panda

@Rob No, it can't be

David

again nah.

Panda

Just that we can't figure out the criteria

David

somebody would of fixed it by now

the bug for the 2017 hat was fixed in 30 min of the start of the bash

bleh

04:11

but we don't know the criteria and so no one reported it

Rob

2017 hat?

Panda

That would have known by now

bleh

and also why is it blue in the face???

David

@Rob First Responder

bleh

names have meaning most of the tim

Panda

04:11

Cause it's named after Bluefeet by Bluefeet

bleh

e

Panda

@David Would I be able to get Hatter tomorrow?

:)

David

@bleh dont really know. but I can assure you that after we know the trigger the connection to the name will be clear.

@Panda now this is just my theory, but no.

bleh

but whats your theory

David

I want to talk with bluefeet first

for reasons

bleh

04:14

ok understood

Panda

@David Sure, thanks

Bhavin Ramani

hey any hats for reviewing?

bleh

nope

David

@BhavinRamani No

Bhavin Ramani

:(

David

04:17

and there will not be any

bleh

but why?

David

SE people have said that there will not be any hats triggered for reviews because people were abusing the system (not doing good reviews) just to get the hat.

Ditto goes for flags

bleh

Well don't award the bad reviews or flags :P

Hats Stack Exchange

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Q: Secret hats in winter base in 2016

So far, I got one secret hat that is Where in the world? in winter base 2016. I'm wondering what other secret hats are out there and how to earn them? Anyone got?

rekire

04:49

@bluefeet I just stood up and yes I got the hat :-)

TAsk

They Live criteria "Review a edit suggestion on an old post (3+ years)?" didn't work.

Bhavin Ramani

@rekire Which hat?

rekire

@Panda what is the trigger?

TAsk

@rekire Blue in the face?

rekire

Good morning guys

Eran

04:50

Morning

TAsk

Goood Morning.

rekire

@BhavinRamani Mild Mannered

Bhavin Ramani

@rekire How did you get that?

rekire

The trigger seems to be like unsung hero after 12h

TAsk

Okay.. so answer with score zero and accepted

or no other answers were there ?

rekire

04:54

Yep

Eran

I also got mild mannered. I do have some accepted answers with no votes

Andrew Li

^ plausible

But a bunch of people would have it by now if it was that easy?

Eran

But someone in the shared soc said they got it without any answer

Saiid

@rekire Good late night

Eran

Shared doc

Andrew Li

04:55

Trying to get hats and studying for finals is not a good combo

Saiid

@TAsk Disproven, I got an accepted answer with 0 score and didn't get it

@AndrewLi +1, trying to get hats and doing anything else is not a good combo

Andrew Li

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/288271/… - What does that mean?

10 = 2 in binary

10 tasks?

Eran

I deleted some comments yesterday and got it sometime during the night

Andrew Li

mild mannered?

I knew it...

I haven't answered since WB started

Nothing good to

Uhhh

My SO profile says 7.7k rep but here it says 8.1k?!?!

Rob

8.1k total on SE

Andrew Li

04:59

Oh

Duh

Saiid

Oh

lol

I never realized that

:P

Wait, but I have more than 317 total...?

David

lol yes chat is global across the SE network (SO is separate.)

Saiid

?

2 mins ago, by Rob

8.1k total on SE

1 min ago, by Saiid

Wait, but I have more than 317 total...?

Explain

David

all the SE site that are under stackexchange.com use the chat.stackexchange system. SO has their own chat.stackoverflow.com (because they are so huge) Your rep here is

the rep that is displays here is the total you have across all your accounts. (not counting ones below 200, I think)

Saiid

Ah

David

05:09

this

is

just

a test

ok mine is at 26.6k

Saiid

lol

David

Yep, ones below 200 are not counted.

Saiid

hmm

Andrew Li

The only other community I participate in is Meta.SE :P

Andrew Li

05:39

Just answered. Wish me luck on mild mannered!

Alexander O'Mara

I think you're best Mild Mannered is to answer low-rep users, who cannot upvote yet.

3

Rob

All users can upvote answers to their own question, can't they?

Andrew Li

No

Sadly

@AlexanderO'Mara I haven't even gotten a response from OP

Can you check something for me Alexander?

Can I call you Alex? :P

alecxe

sure

:P

Andrew Li

Meant O' Mara, but if you're a JS guy sure

alecxe

05:49

well, only if terrible JS guy

TheGreatDuck

Theory for blue in the face: Post the tenth comment on a post

Andrew Li

I need validation if this is correct and how it can be improved

@TheGreatDuck nope. Didn't do that and I got but you can definitely try

I wrote that answer at midnight. Just need some peers to make sure it makes sense

Great explanation! — Felix Kling 1 min ago

My life is complete.

Panda

@rekire For Blue in the Face?

I'm not sure about mild-mannered, haven't gotten it :D

Alexander O'Mara

@AndrewLi Most people do.

@AndrewLi What?

Ah, looks like someone took care of it.

Andrew Li

06:06

Thanks anyways ;)

Senjuti Mahapatra

What is the Mild Mannered secret hat for ? Any idea?

Умеренно Упоротая Утка

06:17

@SenjutiMahapatra one of good theories is "accepted answer with 0 score"

2

also really good guess starred 40 min ago in this chat:
http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/34279401#34279401

rekire

@УмеренноУпоротаяУтка and wait for 12 hours that is the key

@AndrewLi any idea how you got the TheyLive hat?

Умеренно Упоротая Утка

06:33

@rekire may be

@rekire it somehow related to review edits of old posts...

rekire

@УмеренноУпоротаяУтка so you need to have luck to get such a question in the review

Panda

@rekire Try one of the verified review patterns in the Docs

You should be able to get TheyLive

docs.google.com/document/d/…

rekire

@Panda trying..

Panda

@rekire It should work, good luck :)

rekire

07:00

@Panda done let's wait. I also used a custom reject reason

Bhavin Ramani

I earned 6

rekire

@BhavinRamani great. do you know your steps?

Bhavin Ramani

07:19

Finished reviewing Triage and Suggested Edits
Answer a question (currently -1) and comments

Panda

@rekire You got TheyLive :)

Any idea how you got 8,243,721?

Thanks!

Bhavin Ramani

@Panda How did you get Blue in the Face?

Panda

@BhavinRamani chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/34278081#34278081

My theory is that "Post 10 comments in 45 min, with 3 of them having 1 upvote and majority of the comments made in review queue"

Bhavin Ramani

Ok

rekire

08:00

@Panda yes :-D

TAsk

It definitely related to review

as it makes person angry who has low quality post

And that's what 'Blue in the Face' mean.

It can be only related to link only answers.. may be.

Panda

@rekire :) Any idea how you got 8,243,721?

rekire

@Panda I deleted some of my comments at that time not sure if that is related. I wrote about 16 comments which got upvoted and deleted them

Panda

@rekire Oh, thanks

Just curious, why delete 16 comments?

Panda

08:49

Anyone free to test 8,243,721? Thanks :)

Stewartside

09:08

@Panda im available

Panda

@Stewartside Sure

One moment

I think we can follow his example, chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/50144?m=34268801#34268801

So, "user and OP post 8 (could be more or less) comments (pinging each other) each, at least 1 vote for all comments, question is edited by user/OP"

Stewartside

sounds good, you wanna get a question?

Panda

@Stewartside Do you want to try on any of your questions?

Or old ones should be fine too

Stewartside

sure, one sec

@panda stackoverflow.com/questions/30919053/…

Panda

Sure, I start commenting

@Stewartside Yup, commented

@Stewartside Think you need to edit your question

6 mins ago, by Panda

I think we can follow his example, http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/50144?m=34268801#34268801

Stewartside

09:16

so edit now?

or after 8 comments?

Panda

@Stewartside I think now

Stewartside

done

lets keep commenting till above 8 comments @Panda

Panda

@Stewartside Great

@Stewartside Great, let's wait for 5 min then self-delete them

Stewartside

yep

Panda

@Stewartside Think we can delete them now

Stewartside

09:28

will do

now lets sit and wait :P

Panda

@Stewartside Thanks, now let's wait, we should get it :D

Since the test earlier was successfully

Paul White

13 hours ago, by bluefeet

Ok, folks this goes to everyone. The nonsense that just transpired on this post needs to end immediately. I know you want hats but if you continues to be disruptive, you'll be suspended until after winter bash ends.

@Panda @Stewartside ^^^

Panda

Yea, but we deleted the comments

Paul White

@Panda That's really not the point.

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A: Discouraging "soul-selling" for hats

Winter Bash and hats are the fun way that we like to end the year. We very carefully try to come up with triggers based on normal user actions on the sites, like asking questions, answering, commenting, and many others. Gaming for the hats is always a problem, which is why we try to make sure ...

> There is nothing wrong with testing theories to get secret hats, but you should still be following the same patterns you did before hats and after hats. If you change your actions to get a hat, then make sure it would still be something you'd be doing outside of Winter Bash.

Derpy

09:43

A long time ago, a software house created an online game and called it Lord of the Rings Online. They added achievements for the players to get and they added a title one could get for reaching level 20 without dyeing once. Then they left and watched. After a while they returned, and were much surprised to see user harsh others users and trying to get them to die so that they couldn't get the title...

@PaulWhite good luck

Paul White

@Derpy Sorry I'm not following you. What does that mean?

Derpy

@PaulWhite "good luck in your attempt at making users behave :P"

Paul White

Ah I see. Well thank you then.

Derpy

(Alternate meaning: if you create an hat that requires a chain of comments, don't be surprised when the users will "game the system" to force a chain of comments)

Sadly, we users aren't generally responsible enough to avoid disruptive behaviors when there is an hat to get.

Paul White

Well I can only speak from my own experience, but so far, in my own corner of SE, our users have been very 'responsible'. Anecdotally, that is broadly true network wide this year. Those that are disruptive tend to be small enough in number and visible enough that warnings are effective.

Derpy

10:03

Well, I don't really agree completely, but please don't let my view distract you. I am pretty strict when it comes to certain types of behaviors and my tolerance level for those would be pretty low, so it is only natural I drift towards a more pessimistic opinion on "be nice" issues.

5chdn

10:29

hey there

just recieved 'mild mannered' secret hat.

just have no clue what it could be.

Paul White

@5chdn There are a couple of mildy popular theories on the star wall -->

rekire

@5chdn you have an accepted answer with no upvotes for about 12 hours

5chdn

I probably recieved it for this thread. ethereum.stackexchange.com/q/10752/87 - I also left comments which already included the answer.

all theories are valid with this answer. hum.

added my theory to the doc. \o/

Derpy

They should add an hat called "A secret for few" for users that have an animated avatar.

Could be an idea for next year.

5chdn

you can have animated avatars?

Derpy

10:44

@5chdn you have one.

Obviously, it doesn't get displayed normally. Unless you patch it back like I do.

5chdn

@Derpy i know the avatar source was animated when i uploaded it. but never saw the animation on stack exchange sites. where do you see it?

Derpy

Just a little greasemonkey script, nothing to fancy.

@5chdn see above. I use an userscript to restore the animation.

5chdn

@Derpy pretty cool.

Derpy

Not that there are many animated avatars around in the first place.

Paul White

Thankfully :)

5chdn

10:51

:P

Paul White

11:09

I used to hang out on a forum (a long time ago) where a couple of people had animated avatars that were pretty cool the first hundred times I saw them.

Vikrant

11:19

peeps, got doubted about hat 6

not able to figure out strategy for it

see this Comment

Chenmunka

I'm pretty sure "Don't want to taco about it" is for editing three questions in which you add an extra tag and don't give an edit reason. Getting the hat now on site after site.

Vikrant

yup, it is!

Paul White

Blue in the Face may be as simple as getting a 10th upvoted comment in the Hat Dash period.

3

Vikrant

No, I don't think so

@Panda , @PaulWhite see this post

and for Blue in the Face Read this Comment

Paul White

Yeah you linked that already. I read it.

Vikrant

11:31

I have done that practice, maybe it will take 6 hours to reward Hat

Paul White

It's possible.

bluefeet

@Vikrant Hats are rewarded every 10 minutes. If you've hit the trigger you will get it

You're not going to wait 6 hours to get something you've already qualified for

Vikrant

So, I m not getting.. 6 then... (╥﹏╥)

@Panda, I did follow same as we discussed, what am I missing.. ( ≖.≖)

Panda

@Vikrant Yea, technically I'm not sure if the one I posted is the trigger

I was randomly commenting when I received the hat

Vikrant

ohkkkk

Андрей Беньковский

12:16

Could Blue in the Face be related to using AutoReviewComments several times? Because I just got this hat and that's exactly what I was doing. I also got a response to one of my comments.

Hats Stack Exchange

13:21

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Q: Hats are placed in the top left screen corner if user icon (from facebook) is blocked from loading

I use Firefox with the "Disconnect" add-on which has the feature to block e.g. content from Facebook etc. Some of the SE users' icons are from Facebook so if we block that, these icons do not load and are invisible, which is acceptable though. However, during Winter Bash, there are hats added ...

bug facebook winterbash winterbash-2016 icons

Andrew Li

Anybody with the app: can you repro this?

nitsua60

14:15

Just had a 0-upvote answer accepted, no comments on question or answer. Possible mild-mannered candidate? rpg.stackexchange.com/a/92120/23970

[holds breath for 8 minutes]

rekire

@nitsua60 I guess you will die. since you have to wait for 12 hours

nitsua60

@rekire whyzat? (The waiting part, not the dying part.)

rekire

@nitsua60 I got the hat I know what I'm talking about :D

nitsua60

I don't, which is why I asked. Are you going to tell me what you mean?

Okay, bye. Thanks.

David

@AlexanderO'Mara you around?

well here goes

The Hatter: ask a question on the fourth or the six day of the week when it is six o'clock anywhere in the world.

2

remember that is just my theory.

Himarm

14:28

so asking a question tomorrow at 6ish?

lol

Chenmunka

@David: Not convinced, someone on my site has Hatter but hasn't asked a question this week.

David

@Chenmunka link please.

Chenmunka

@David: Whoops, I take it back - he asked one yesterday.

Panda

@David Why "anywhere in the world"?

DavidPostill

@David It is always (briefly) 6 AM somewhere ...

David

14:31

@Panda timezones

Panda

@David Yea, it's always briefly 6 AM somewhere

Paul White

3 hours ago, by bluefeet

@Vikrant Hats are rewarded every 10 minutes. If you've hit the trigger you will get it

3 hours ago, by bluefeet

You're not going to wait 6 hours to get something you've already qualified for

Derpy

> `And ever since that,' the Hatter went on in a mournful tone, `he won't do a thing I ask! It's always six o'clock now.'

A bright idea came into Alice's head. `Is that the reason so many tea-things are put out here?' she asked.

`Yes, that's it,' said the Hatter with a sigh: `it's always tea-time, and we've no time to wash the things between whiles.'

David

@PaulWhite unless you qualified for only part of the hat six hours ago, and just now got the rest.

rekire

18 hours ago, by rekire

@bluefeet it was accepted about 7 hours ago

18 hours ago, by bluefeet

@rekire have a little patience and maybe you'll get it

and I got it about 12 hours later

David

14:37

@rekire what hat, are you talking about?

Paul White

@David Well obviously :)

David

this stuff is not obvious to everyone in here.

rekire

@David you said implicit that you don't need to wait hours until you get the hat I say in that case you need to wait.

David

@rekire what case, what hat did you get then?

Paul White

@David I mean it's obvious that you can only earn a hat once you've qualified for it.

I believe the idea of "having patience" is more about acquiring hats naturally rather than going hard out to get every hat within the first couple of days.

rekire

14:40

@David Mild Mannered

Paul White

It's all opinion of course since the only people that really know will neither confirm nor deny until hats are over.

Still fun either way.

David

@rekire ok

bleh

still nothing for Blue?????

rekire

@bleh that is regarding comments and editing

bleh

@rekire Well yeah but we havent solved it????

Panda

14:42

Blue got to do with commenting

bleh

We apparently solved 8m

Panda

10 comments

rekire

@bleh not fully

bleh

The criteria for 8m has to be something we normally do

we dont uaually delete all of our upvoted comments

bluefeet

You never delete your comments?

I guess I've always done it wrong

rekire

14:45

@bleh I got the hat before deleting comments. I normally delete all irrelevant comments

Panda

^

bleh

Unless they're chat comments or comments like yesterday :P

David

@rekire ok now which hat are you talking about?

bleh

8m

apparently it's confirmed on google doc

rekire

@David blue in the face

David

14:48

I dont put much trust in that thing...

rekire

Oh I'm talking about the wrong hat I guess sorry.

bleh

Blue we definitely don't delete your comments

David

:) this is why I keep asking.

too often different people are talking about different hats.

rekire

right

Panda

You don't to delete comments to get blue

rekire

14:50

that 8,243,721 hat came in a cleanup action of blue in the face

bluefeet

@rekire can you please expand on that?

rekire

@bluefeet well before you said not to spam with comments I made a test run. when I deleted my comments from that the 8,243,721 hat was triggered

Glorfindel

Just got the '6' hat on Meta Stack Exchange. I haven't done anything for the last 30 minutes and cast only one (up)vote today, 5 hours ago.

Derpy

as I said in the Tavern, I am pretty sadden that The Hatter is not given out for asking a tea to the bot in the chemistry chat room. ;_;

Glorfindel

The two answers I posted today are both accepted and currently have a score of 4 resp. 2, which is combined 6. Coincidence?

David

14:57

@Derpy lol

rekire

@Glorfindel sounds plausible

Derpy

@David as I said, I get that they try to promote traffic and site usage with the hats, but since many experiments ends up in destructive behaviors, probably having secret hat for doing funny unusual things would be better.

Glorfindel

And both answers have 3 comments each. 3+3=6. Another coincidence?

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