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2:00 PM
@Poke Sorry - I was still talking about trichoplax's challenge. codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/89621/42963
 
thanks :]
 
2:15 PM
in Sandbox, 1 min ago, by zyabin101
I am typing using dasher!
 
The reindeer?
 
I suggest trying the Touch Control first. Because using the phone as a steering wheel is very hard. ;)
And on my phone it's impossible.
 
How do you find the touch control? Do you think you would continue to use it in place of a keyboard?
Sounds interesting
 
brb downloading dasher
 
@trichoplax Did you download and set Dasher as an available keyboard and current keyboard?
 
2:21 PM
Did our tags get a new design?
 
@zyabin101 No - I was looking for your feedback before deciding :)
 
Then in Dasher Settings, choose Input Mode ==> Touch Control.
 
@mınxomaτ Ooo, they're rectangular now.
 
@mınxomaτ I noticed too, now back to rectangular, as window 10...
 
2 hours ago, by trichoplax
Our tags have gone square cornered...
 
2:22 PM
@TimmyD Well, they have a smaller border radius.
 
@mınxomaτ Details, details ...
 
I noticed, thought I was crazy because nobody had mentioned it
 
@mınxomaτ I think they changed it for all beta design sites
 
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Q: Chess conversion

Nathan MerrillThere's quite a lot of work that's been done in the world of chess. For example, there is a standardized file format, .pgn, that describes a chess game, including the list of moves. Additionally, there's another file format .fen, that describes a board position. The challenge today is to conve...

 
@BusinessCat That doesn't mean now that you're not crazy.
 
2:24 PM
At first I thought it was the first step towards our new design...
 
Good gravy, Dennis even golfs searching ... TIL you can use is:q instead of is:question
6
 
It was a good day when I learned that
I got it from Doorknob
 
I got it from meta.SE
 
@Doorknob becomes meta.SE I got it from experimenting with search.
 
2:29 PM
> I'm on my phone, so a detailed explanation will come later.
 
@trichoplax Here's how Dasher looks like:
 
@DJMcMayhem you have a phone which allows you to test python code but not write explanations...? :P
 
Here, I'm using the Touch Control, and have my finger on screen where the black square is.
 
hey, I'm wanting to make a word-search challenge similar to this, but where users try to get a single test case of 10K words as small as possible. While the answers in the original question would theoretically work, I don't think they'd be fast
 
Ugh. Now that the squarish tags have been pointed out, it's all I see. Like, my eyes zoom in on them.
 
2:30 PM
does that sound like a dupe?
 
@zyabin101 Like swimming through probability space
@NathanMerrill Would it be fastest code to find an optimal solution, or best solution in a fixed time?
 
best solution so far. If a solution is proven optimal, then it's first posted
basically, same scoring as my compounding challenge
 
i have understand how Dasher work
it's weird
 
@NathanMerrill So you'd be aiming to set a problem size that makes finding an optimal solution unlikely?
 
2:36 PM
To me that makes it less a duplicate
 
or, at least, you'd need a really optimized solution
 
Since the same approaches can't be used
 
@trichoplax Yup!
 
now i will try to create a Hello, World! in python with Dash
promise to be hard
nvm it was pretty easy
 
2:52 PM
proof of a language readability: how easy it is for Dash to predict your next letter
 
Do you guys know if there's an online python interpreter that has the sympy module?
 
@Theo Why not download python?
 
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Q: Minimal Word Search

Nathan MerrillLast week, we worked to create the shortest 1-D string using the top 10,000 words in the English language. Now, lets try the same challenge in 2D! What you need to do is to take all of the above words, and put them in a rectangle as small as possible, allowing for overlaps. For example, if you...

 
@NathanMerrill I can see where this is going... Next week, 3d? :)
 
3:06 PM
Who is triska in github?
 
@trichoplax nah, I don't actually think 3D is all that more interesting than 2D
 
No, I wasn't being serious :)
 
Speaking of 3D:
CMC: verify if the given 3D tic-tac-toe board is X wins, O wins, or neither
 
What format is it given in
 
@BusinessCat Any sensible format
 
3:09 PM
@LeakyNun Closed as unclear
 
apparently, in google "Z" (the single letter) is searched less than any other letter (right behind "Q")
 
Specify the board, and you're done with it.
 
@zyabin101 *you're done with it
 
@LeakyNun or both?
 
@NathanMerrill alright
 
3:10 PM
XXX
OOO
XXX
 
@LeakyNun Fixed.
 
does X win because they won twice?
 
@zyabin101 I mean you as in "I"
@NathanMerrill nope
 
@LeakyNun Late, the edit window has been closed.
 
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3:14 PM
Y and Z have the same probability. — Leaky Nun 39 mins ago
@LeakyNun nice spot :)
 
@TùxCräftîñg What ಠ_ಠ
 
@trichoplax Thanks
 
@BusinessCat ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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@Fatalize Done.
 
@TùxCräftîñg Good, now write the first verse of Jabberwocky in Dasher. :P
 
3:20 PM
> Champagne accent same where to grand makers
 
@TùxCräftîñg Where are you writing this? :3
 
checks out
 
Tux?
 
Dennis, did you write a userscript for chat.stackexchange for group notifications?
 
3:22 PM
@TùxCräftîñg Where are you writing these texts?
:3
 
on Dasher
 
But in which app?
 
PC version
 
@TùxCräftîñg Did you fill in a small form's worth of PII to get Dasher for Windows? O_O
 
3:27 PM
Hey, I'm lazy, so can someone turn the images in my sandbox post into one horizontal line?
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

βετѧ ΛєҫαγUnbork the Computer Blur code-golf image-processing Introduction As, described in this minutephysics video, many image processing programs do not accurately blur images, leaving dark lines. For this reason, I want you to create a programmer which does accurate blurring. Method To get the RGB...

You can edit it if you want
 
> Unbork the Computer Blur
+1
 
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A: Making Future Posts Runnable Online with Stack Snippets

TùxCräftîñgNeoscript Only work on ES6 browsers "use strict"; function nodejswrapper(url) { let data = $.ajax({ type: "GET", url: url, async: false }).responseText; return new Function("let module={};" + data + "return module.exports;")(); } let tokenize...

no love for neoscript ;_;
> I want you to create a programmer which does accurate blurring.
typo?
 
@Dennis, did you write a userscript for chat.stackexchange for group notifications?
 
@TùxCräftîñg Overzealous autocorrect
 
3:30 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

βετѧ ΛєҫαγUnbork the Computer Blur code-golf image-processing Introduction As, described in this minutephysics video, many image processing programs do not accurately blur images, leaving dark lines. For this reason, I want you to create a programmer which does accurate blurring. Method To get the RGB...

 
But if you can build a programmer, I'll be impressed
 
@TùxCräftîñg s/no/some/ :D
 
@drobilc No, I did not.
 
> You must not used built-in functions
 
@Dennis Hmm, would you happen to know who did?
anyone else having problems opening links posted by new-sandboxed-posts-bot?
 
3:36 PM
@TùxCräftîñg Gah
 
@drobilc No, sorry. I don't even know what uerscript you're referring to.
 
I don't think that exists
I considered writing one a while ago but the feature is enabled on Discord and I've only ever seen it used harmfully
 
@drobilc Just replace the https in the link with http
 
@βετѧΛєҫαγ Yeah, i know, but shouldn't that be fixed?
 
Ahem @Mods ^
 
3:38 PM
Yeah, it's an issue that everyone (including the people who can fix it are aware of)
 
there's a technical reason it's like that, and if it was a "simple fix" it would be done. Not that the mods can magically fix stuff anyway
 
what is the longest possible game by official FIDE rules?
 
WHO SAID IPHONE ಠ_ಠ
 
3:51 PM
2 people did
 
hey man, iPhones are great
 
@orlp I would imagine something where each side would systematically eliminate all pieces until you get to an insufficient material dead draw scenario.
Or are you looking for a specific?
 
@Quill ಠ_____________ಠ
 
@TimmyD yes, a specific length
 
@TùxCräftîñg Ha ha no one is making you use one :P
 
3:52 PM
it seems to be 5899 with the fifty-move rule
 
?
i dont use any apple product
...
 
@TùxCräftîñg Exactly. They aren't saying you must use an Apple product, just that they do. I can't understand anger at that...
 
I'd probably use an Apple product myself if you paid me enough
 
How'd you guys feel about a KoTH based off of Monopoly?
 
4:00 PM
I'm not sure there's enough decision making in Monopoly
 
@orlp This offers a theoretical counter-example.
 
Roll 3 dice instead of two, player agency comes from choosing the two dice that actually make up their move
 
@BusinessCat I think that's actually a good thing. I wrote a challenge where people had to vote good or evil, and ended up with some extremely complex submissions.
 
The 3 dice thing opens up a lot of possibility though
 
@TimmyD it doesn't
 
4:03 PM
@BusinessCat If you allow trading and auctioning (part of the rules which are sometimes overlooked) then there is a lot of decision making, deciding what price a property is worth before knowing where the rest of them will end up
 
the current rule is simply 50 moves without capture or pawn move
that post is a critique of that rule, proposes an alternative rule, then shows that the alternative rule is insufficient and allows infinite games
 
Ohhhhhhh
Yes, I see now. Misread it the first time.
 
@BusinessCat Also, what Rainbolt said
 
I'll agree auctioning takes a lot of decision making
But I don't think it's very common that somebody wouldn't buy a property when landing on it
 
@trichoplax Unfortunately, the game theory perfect solution appears to be that a perfect game would not involve any trading or auctioning. There's never any reason not to buy iirc
 
4:06 PM
Only reason is you can't afford it
 
@BusinessCat There's also the opportunity to offer to buy another player's property each time you take a move, which is effectively another auction
 
In which case you're probably losing anyway
@trichoplax I've never heard of that rule
 
You should be mortgaging properties in order to afford things
 
@BusinessCat It's possible to land on more than 1500 worth of property on your first trip around the board, which would be more than you could afford to buy. So you might choose not to buy early on, saving up for later properties, or you might buy everything and then try to sell later if you need to
@StevenH. Well that's a strategy decision - it would be interesting to see which strategy wins most often...
 
Fair enough.
I might wait until @NathanMerrill finishes his KoTH controller to see what happens with that
 
4:09 PM
what's the website where you can order food online and have people pay separately
i always forget
 
@StevenH. I don't know the game theory behind it, but I'd expect there to be an incentive to trade if two players have half each of two groups of linked properties each, and a third player has a full group.
 
Even if the third player doesn't
You can still get ahead of the third player
 
Yes, not trading would be giving the game to the third player, but trading evens things up
 
But the properties don't have equal value, so one gets more out of the trade than the other
 
That's where deciding how much cash to involve separates the strategies
The way I see it, the fact that people all have different opinions on this means there is likely to be lots of interest in writing competitors. So providing the barrier to entry is reasonably low you should get plenty of players
 
4:16 PM
@NathanMerrill how excited are you for a C answer to your chess question?
 
@StevenH. its ready right now. I don't expect it to be "finished" for a while though (as I have lots of features I want to add)
@orlp I don't see why C is special
 
4:31 PM
@NathanMerrill because it's lower level?
 
-3
Q: Get likes/dislikes on a youtube video

OkxCode a program to get the likes/dislikes on a youtube video. You must use the YouTube API, and you cannot use a different API in order to get less characters. You are allowed to use the Youtube API in any way you like. You input the video ID to get likes/dislikes in the format 'likes/dislikes' Fo...

 
> This is cold golf
6
I so want this to be a new challenge type...
 
I feel like that would involve the going outsides, so I'm not in. sorry
 
@Theo Hah. Outside. "Not in."
 
@TimmyD Not what meant
 
4:41 PM
It could just involve going to the fridge
 
Golfing in the winter seems like a bad idea
You would lose the ball too easily
 
@trichoplax "All programs must be typed while wearing mittens."
6
 
You win
 
@NewMainPosts zealous autocorrect? :P
 
@BusinessCat Not as crazy as you'd think. I mean, still crazy, but not as crazy.
 
4:44 PM
Hey, anyone fluent in LOLCODE?
@TùxCräftîñg hi tux
 
MEH IZ FLUANT
 
TRI NEOSCRIPT ITZ BETTUR
 
BETTUR* PLZ
 
O RLY?
NO WAI
O OK
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Where do the copyright headers go?
@Releasing is it:
BTW (C) Year Name

HAI
...
KTHXBYE
or
HAI

BTW (C) Year Name

...
KTHXBYE
@zyabin101 you got a new name?
 
TAHT HAZ NOTHIN BOUT LOLCODE ITZ UR CHOEZE
BUT I WUD GO W/ 1TH WUN
 
4:51 PM
I AGRE W/ HELIUM
 
i bought some games from Steam but my internet speed is too slow :( feels bad man
 
@thepiercingarrow I didn't.
I just lost my small caps.
8
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei remind me of when i bought ARK but my disk was full...
 
@zyabin101 Nice. Hopefully Tùx becomes Tux soon, and the silliness can end
3
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei KTHXBYE
 
5:05 PM
@Lynn ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
Also aaaaaaa LegionMammal’s name became Unicode-y too??
Greek-y specifically
 
brb walking my dog
 
you know, you should try unicode
it even have a deadly character
 
No, I do. I’m sure this is divine punishment. I shouldn’t have used those Greek letter identifiers in that one program. @_@
 
I'm ok with Unicode, as long as you use the code points [A-Za-z0-9]
 
5:09 PM
You can't use a space in your name?
 
ᴀɴᴅ ꜱᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘꜱ ;_;
 
@TùxCräftîñg “What? No!”
 
@BusinessCat that is a bit hypocritical, isn't it
 
@NathanMerrill I think it was an objecting question, rather than an assertion ;)
 
er, I was calling myself a hypocrite, but I realized that my statement is ambigous
 
5:12 PM
Full width name >=D
 
@NathanMerrill Oh! I mistook your ambiguous statement for an unambiguous response to an ambiguous statement...
 
T h i s F u l l W i d t h ?
 
better idea: alternation of small caps and full width, with zalgo
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
5:15 PM
@BusinessCat your name look weird in chrome
 
Don't worry, the full width has burned in eternal hellfire
 
Never mind
 
that's a pretty nifty symbol for exponentiation
 
That it is
Alright, so commands.txt does show that ⁿ is exponentiation.
 
@trichoplax at least my unambiguous clarification cleared up the ambiguity of both of my ambiguous statements
 
5:19 PM
@NathanMerrill 100% clear now :)
 
My syncing just stinks
 
have any of you seen City of Ember?
 
yes
it's kind of a let down
 
how so?
 
googling City of Ember
 
5:21 PM
I've read the books, so don't worry about spoilers
 
it's been a while, but I remember it straying far from the book, I believe it has a different ending (at least, different fates for some characters). The visual quality is nice, tho. It's not a bad movie in its own right, it's just that I'm a purist :P
 
ah ok
I don't really care about plot deviation
 
then I think you should watch it!
 
Alright
GitHub says I can't update my fork because the doc that I've been working is unmergeable
Magnificent
How do I fix this?
 
5:24 PM
@ConorO'Brien do they reveal that they are underground early on?
because it looks like the trailer spoils that
 
@NathanMerrill yup. like first 5 minutes
 
that's really lame. I really didn't see that plot twist coming in the book
 
it's rather obvious, though they don't explicitly say it
 
Anyone?
 
I am not a git guru, I'm more of a git.
8
 
5:29 PM
Alright, let me try something
 
5:47 PM
Seems to have worked. Thanks anyway, Conor
 
I do what I can XD
 
5:58 PM
@ConorO'Brien i dont understand
 
@Optimizer what don't you understand about it?
 
more of a git ?
 
2. (Britain, slang, pejorative) A silly, incompetent, stupid, annoying or childish person (usually a man).
 
oh
 

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