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fredley

5:00 PM

@StrixVaria Given that django development is my day-job it's only a question of getting to grips with a new module

@3ventic where are you?

StrixVaria

@fredley Ah, that would make it easier.

Private Pansy

MH3U is currently 50% off on the eShop

3ventic

out in the square

fredley

@StrixVaria Yeah. django-socketio makes getting off the ground quite easy

Private Pansy

Yay or nay?

Wipqozn

5:00 PM

@PrivatePansy Yay.

MH3U is fantastic.

3DS or wiiU?

Private Pansy

3DS

fredley

@StrixVaria Most of the work has been around getting the infrastructure as lightweight as possible to make creating new areas and quests require a minimal amount of boilerplate

StrixVaria

The opposite of "nay" is spelled "yea"...

@fredley That is definitely a good direction.

fredley

@3ventic you can only go west from the square (until you've bought a drink)

StrixVaria

That way you can actually add new content glares at Notch.

fredley

5:01 PM

@StrixVaria Yeah. It's hard to scope

Sterno

@3ventic Try "go dennis"

Wipqozn

@PrivatePansy Okay. still yay, but a slightly smaller yay, because 3DS lacks online unless you have a WiiU.

Private Pansy

Yeah, I've heard. Not sure how much I'd miss out because of that

ManishEarth

Someone ask a question on the main site!

Unionhawk

@ManishEarth No.

ManishEarth

5:03 PM

but ... I have some magic for you guys

3ventic

I don't have a question to ask

Unionhawk

I don't believe you.

Sterno

I never trust strangers offering magic.

Particularly if a van is involved.

3ventic

Let me just launch Minecraft, I'm sure I can magically spawn a question that way.

fredley

@3ventic Especially if it crashes!

Private Pansy

5:04 PM

@3ventic Have it crash then copy and paste the crash report in with no context and explanation

It's what all the cool kids do these days it seems

3ventic

I don't have the skills to make it crash :(

I even installed a 256x texture pack without any issues

Unionhawk

Or make it not download, and then ask us why, also with no additional context.

Private Pansy

Install a mod, start game, play for 5 minutes; if it doesn't crash, rinse, repeat

Arperum

@3ventic Install more mods. Fuck arouynd in config files to create ID conflicts.

Install mods for a different version.

fredley

@3ventic Download a pirate copy

3ventic

5:08 PM

@fredley Even that works!

fredley

@3ventic ha

Unionhawk

@3ventic Download a pirate copy and ask us why you can't connect to servers

fredley

3 HOURS REMAIN

3ventic

@Unionhawk What if that works too? D:

Unionhawk

@3ventic Try another server, and repeat until you find one that has online-mode=true

Download Vanilla Minecraft, and try to connect to a modded server

Undo

5:10 PM

@fredley what's happening that's so huge?

hides

Unionhawk

@Undo Stuff.

badp

@fredley Look at who's so uncomfortably excited

RedRiderX

Okay someone tell me if I'm doing this right

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Got your Drivers license?

fredley

@badp Nervous

RedRiderX

5:11 PM

I've got a plan to fix desktop chat for mobile

at least a little bit

badp

@fredley They might be synonyms

fredley

@badp It's not over until it's over

@RedRiderX ...

RedRiderX

I need to add on a stylesheet and a button

badp

@fredley What place are you in the primaries 'leaderboards'?

fredley

If Chrome extensions are coming for mobile then I will be fixing chat

@badp I am first, but past performance is not a guarantee of future success

RedRiderX

5:12 PM

@fredley Eh this might work as a userscript

Arperum

@fredley You got stupid amounts of upvotes. Seriously.

fredley

@RedRiderX Can you userscript chrome mobile?

@Arperum Yes, I know, but it's not over until it's over

Counting chickens, etc.

RedRiderX

no but you can userscript with TamperMonkey

badp

@fredley I'll just say this in order to look at the feedback loop it ensues: I'm not aware of any election where the top primaries user(s) doesn't get elected.

Arperum

@fredley True, I expect all of these threehundred people to suddenly go back to downvoting you in the next two hours.

RedRiderX

5:13 PM

It seems like hiding the sidebar is just down to a couple lines of css

Krazer

@3ventic "go home" or "go to sleep"

fredley

@badp There's a first time for everything!

RedRiderX

and then just injecting a button

badp

As far as I'm concerned it's sort of settled and I can start wiping out all mentions of fredley from the super secret rooms

Undo

wants to be able to see primary vote counts

fredley

5:14 PM

@badp Proactive modabuse!

badp

@fredley The best kind

fredley

@Undo There's a userscript for doing that for unreppy users

badp

@fredley I don't think it works on the primaries

Private Pansy

@fredley Firefox Mobile has Stylish but not Greasemonkey

badp

There's no API access.

...afaik

Private Pansy

5:14 PM

@badp Not anymore, no.

RedRiderX

@PrivatePansy Oh really?

bummer

Private Pansy

Used to be able to, but they rooted it out after telling me it was a bug

Krazer

@Frank make sure you talk to the NPC for the Gysahl Greens, so you can summon and level up your Chocobo in battle

Private Pansy

@RedRiderX Still good enough to make me consider writing a userstyle to make chat usable

RedRiderX

@PrivatePansy Yeah but I wanted to make the sidebar available.

which would require new elements

Private Pansy

5:16 PM

Desktop chat, yes

RedRiderX

I think

I can't think of another method

Private Pansy

I was thinking of using media queries and writing two different styles for landscape and portrait

RedRiderX

You can't use sibling selectors on pseudo elements can you?

@PrivatePansy Eh landscape is still to small for me I need to zoom in

Private Pansy

@RedRiderX No, because pseudo elements have no siblings

RedRiderX

@PrivatePansy Ah right

Private Pansy

5:18 PM

@RedRiderX I don't have to, but there isn't much usable vertical space. Need to drop the position: fixed on the bottom input area and make the sidebar scrollable

Lazers

0

Q: Diamonds on Minecraft

I have not been playing Minecraft very long, and I am having trouble find diamonds. I have looked at a few different articles saying that diamonds are most commonly found on level 8 and lower, are these articles true or am I looking on the wrong level? I still have not found any diamonds. Is the...

minecraft

fredley

@Lazers dupe

RedRiderX

@PrivatePansy Oh yes I had already gotten through those steps with some experimentation

spugsley

@FEichinger oh that's what you're worried about? :3

RedRiderX

It's just the hide/show sidebar thing I wanted to finagle into place

And if stylish isn't working on chrome it would need to be a userscript anyway

Private Pansy

5:19 PM

Also, give .message .meta something like transform: scale(2) to make it finger friendly

Sconibulus

Oooooh... androidandme.com/2013/10/news/…

Private Pansy

@RedRiderX Mobile Chrome doesn't have extensions AFAIK

Frank

@Krazer Eh? I got my Chocobo, but they didn't say anything about Gyshal Greens; I figured using it in battle was a higher level deal.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum ='[

RedRiderX

@PrivatePansy previous experiment:

OrigamiRobot

5:20 PM

@Wipqozn Ah, a 40 minute fix...

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Is that a no?

RedRiderX

@PrivatePansy play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.biniok.tampermonkey

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot There's two videos from her.

Arperum

@RedRiderX CHange that lorem ipsum now, it's ridiculous.

RedRiderX

@Arperum I'm not even using that now

Wipqozn

5:21 PM

Also quil has posted more videos.

RedRiderX

This was the old prototype thing

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Yea, ~20 minutes each.

Private Pansy

@RedRiderX Not going to install that, no. Don't want to use another app just for chat

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Oh I thought the 4th was his last Banished video

RedRiderX

@PrivatePansy Eh good point

Yuki

5:22 PM

Huh. New user is spamming somewhat low quality answers.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot It was supposed to be, but he decided to start a new game on hard. I think he's on the third video for his hard town.

I'll grab you a link, just a sec.

OrigamiRobot

:O

Private Pansy

Userstyles should be enough anyway. I did some serious magic with it back in my school days

Wipqozn

►

OrigamiRobot

> I got a LOT of demand to do more Banished, but I wanted to start a new, more "proper" town.

Damn straight.

RedRiderX

5:23 PM

@PrivatePansy Eh true

Darn how can I easily test a userstyle?

ummm

Eh I guess I'll just go back and forth

3ventic

@RedRiderX Use 2 screens :p

FEichinger

@spugsley I'm not sure I want to ask what else there is to worry about ...

RedRiderX

@3ventic No but this would be a semi external style sheet

Unionhawk

@FEichinger Do you even need to ask?

Wipqozn

@ManishEarth If you're using openID to log in you should know it's being shut down tomorrow (re: your chat script)

RedRiderX

5:26 PM

hmm maybe I'll just save out a copy of the site and work on that

ManishEarth

@Wipqozn using openid.stackexchange.com

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum it is :'(

Krazer

@Frank No you need to talk to a NPC in Southern Shroud to get the quest that opens up at lvl 30 (I think you can get a breadcrumb from any chocobokeeper) that gives you the Greens, you can choose to level one of 3 specs, ATK, DEF, HEAL

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden aww :(

RedRiderX

@Wipqozn That's just MyOpenID

ManishEarth

5:27 PM

I plan to add more openids to it, but first I want full chatbot functionality

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden If you can get to a trainstation in Belgium I can come pick you up and drop you off on sunday. I'm not allowed to go out of Belgium with my car due to insurance.

ManishEarth

Stay on the lookout in this chatroom, upcoming magics

Unionhawk

Behold, as I take control of @fredley!

HamStare @ManishEarth

fredley

@ManishEarth ಠ_ಠ

Unionhawk

MAGIC

Arperum

5:32 PM

@Unionhawk STOP STARING AT EVERYONE!

Unionhawk

@Arperum NO

ManishEarth

[ LAZERS v2 ] When should one use the Revolution age in AOE 3

yay, it worked

fredley

@ManishEarth ooooooooh

@ManishEarth I much, much prefer this lazers

Unionhawk

@ManishEarth This is decidedly worse than @Lazers, except for the fact that it's quicker.

fredley

@Unionhawk No, it's better, because it doesn't onebox

Tags would be nice

ManishEarth

5:33 PM

@Unionhawk The speed isn't why I put it there

tags are possible

fredley

The speed will undermine my competitive advantage though!

Unionhawk

Well then, it relies on the question title being not shit.

Which is almost never the case.

fredley

@Unionhawk If the question title is shit the question needs attention anyway

Unionhawk

Fair enough.

Sterno

NO. MUST HAVE LAZERS ONE BOX

Unionhawk

5:34 PM

I AGREE

Sterno

Any changes to Lazers will literally ruin my life forever!

MBraedley

@fredley I like that @Lazers oneboxes its posts. I don't like that it will sometimes post multiple questions at once.

fredley

@MBraedley This is addressable with the script

Also, lazers wouldn't spam a load at once if the resolution of its checking was higher

Sterno

If Lazers starts looking like that I'm totally creating a Lazzers sockpuppet that puts out occasional Rebecca Black links that look like questions. Because I am a jerk.

Lazers

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Q: When should one use the Revolution age in AOE 3?

In Age of Empires 3, one can revolt from their home city (for a non asian civilization) in the industrial age. This converts all villagers into fighters. While factories and banks keep producing money, the economy is usually at a standstill. You get infinite shipments (you can even take infinite...

age-of-empires-3

MBraedley

5:36 PM

@fredley I don't think it's entirely the resolution of checking so much as the resolution that items are posted to the RSS

Unionhawk

About 4 minutes faster, but @Lazers oneboxes

fredley

@Sterno Please do

ManishEarth

@Unionhawk I can onebox too. I'm not oneboxing because the script in its current form is meant for sites where that would spam

Unionhawk

@ManishEarth NOT GOOD ENOUGH

Sterno

I take it back. I'll fully support any change to @Lazers that lets it post questions before they are even asked.

RedRiderX

5:38 PM

Ack saving a copy of the webpage doesn't save the acutal comments!?!

MBraedley

Although I think there should be an option for turning off oneboxing on site questions and just showing the title.

ManishEarth

@Unionhawk Oh, you want me to tussle with lazers? You want that? Huh? Alright, Lazers. You and me. Right now*. This room. Speed battle. *after I tweak the script

2

:P

Jason Berkan

Is there anything more pointless in a business environment than a performance appraisal?

Unionhawk

@ManishEarth Careful, though, you don't want to inflict the wrath of @badp. Or whatever @badp does.

ManishEarth

gaaaah nooo not the badp anything but the badp

LAZERS v2, the oneboxening, has been set up

now we wait

fredley

5:42 PM

> 17:42:02 : The shop is a mess, all the produce is scattered everywhere, and the shelves are in disarray. Oh, and everything is crawling with rats.

OrigamiRobot

Is @ManishEarth the new Lazers? Do I need to ignore him too?

3

Unionhawk

@OrigamiRobot Apparently?

StrixVaria

The gamer, West Jordan, UT

11 2

league-of-legends minecraft mods super-mario-galaxy-2 wii wii-sports wii-u

Sterno

Why would anyone ignore @Lazers? That'd be like ignoring sunshine and puppies.

Wipqozn

►

StrixVaria

5:42 PM

This guy just answered like 4-5 questions with no extra info.

Wipqozn

Oh man, it works.

Sconibulus

oooh, the game has a shop now?

StrixVaria

I don't want to be the one calling him out 4-5 times.

MBraedley

@Wipqozn You're supposed to text link that

Wipqozn

@MBraedley I will now. I was performing magical tests.

Sterno

5:43 PM

@StrixVaria Put on your mod-candidate pants and step up!

StrixVaria

@Sterno Bleh :P

Unionhawk

@Sterno You've only got like, 4 days to use this excuse, may as well live it to the fullest!

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria Remember you could have a diamond on these comments in a few days!

Wipqozn

How do I look super handsome?

3

Sconibulus

aww man, progress got reset in MAMOTA?

Unionhawk

5:44 PM

@Wipqozn That should be a question on the gentlemen.SE proposal

You're welcome in advance

ManishEarth

Btw, guys, if you really want me to stop testing in this room, let me know.

Unionhawk

I don't care, honestly

ManishEarth

FWIW the lazers testing is temporary.

I'm just trying to get a working feedbot, you guys can use it yourselves if you want (it's headless)

Sconibulus

oh, wait, not entirely. I just don't have a drink anymore.

Wipqozn

We could use this to set-up a cron script to post Rebecca Black every friday!

OrigamiRobot

5:46 PM

@ManishEarth Where did you hide the head?

ManishEarth

@Wipqozn that's insanely easy

Yuki

@Wipqozn And Saturday.

ManishEarth

@OrigamiRobot in the git repo :p

Wipqozn

@ManishEarth I know.

fredley

@ManishEarth We can set up a Lazer's Sockpuppet account to operate it from

Wipqozn

5:47 PM

I could do it right now. I already wrote the black script, would just need to set -up a cron job.

Yuki

@StrixVaria That "The gamer" guy?

RedRiderX

welp no st2 for me then :/

GnomeSlice

All of the 11 bit studios soundtracks are free today http://dtoid.it/1iUr0MI

Tweeted by destructoid on January 31, 2014 at 5:46 PM

ManishEarth

@fredley yep. I'm only using my account for testing, otherwise I'll end up hitting the ratelimit without knowing which one of my bot instances is doing stuff

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn I thought you were better than that.

Wipqozn

5:48 PM

@OrigamiRobot I'm not saying I will, I'm just saying I could.

Frank

@StrixVaria I would downvote more, but the serial script would probably catch it.

Michel

For real... can someone do something about The Gamer ?

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Whether you do or don't is irrelevant. Supporting the people who think it's annoying/clever/funny/whatever is the real problem.

Wipqozn

I think this new user would be better dealt with via a comment or two letting him know we prefer longer and more detailed answers, as opposed to being downvoted into oblivion.

Michel

His answers are ... NOT ANSWERS!

@StrixVaria can you? you saw him!

~I farmed flags :P

ManishEarth

5:50 PM

@fredley fwiw lazers v2 supports tags as well now (extremely simple tweak), but I'm not running it right now

Wipqozn

@Michel He already did.

This answer doesn't add anything that the previous answers haven't already covered. It is great that you want to participate in the site, but please make sure your answers are correct and meaningful additions before posting. — StrixVaria 5 mins ago

@OrigamiRobot I'm neutral to rebecca black videos.

Frank

Why is he a good champion? We're looking for expert information. Just telling us he's a good starter doesn't help much; tell us why, too. — Frank 1 min ago

Michel

It would be great if he could receive a direct "feedback"

fredley

@ManishEarth Cool!

Jason Berkan

@Michel Comments show up in his/her inbox.

fredley

5:52 PM

I am excited by these new chat scripting opportunities

Frank

@Michel He is; that's what downvotes do.

fredley

@ManishEarth Is it using the websocket or polling?

Michel

@JasonBerkan I know, but I was thinking about the chat (but he's FAR from the rep needed)

Unionhawk

I think they get the point, and, if not, then, quite frankly, it'll be taken care of.

Michel

@Frank not so much as the comments (at least for me)

ManishEarth

5:53 PM

@fredley sockets

Yuki

@Michel If his answers aren't answers, just flag as 'NAA'.

fredley

@ManishEarth Delicious sockets

ManishEarth

though at some point the socket connection will die. I have to look into that

fredley

@ManishEarth Just catch the error when you try and push to the closed socket and reopen it

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn I care zero percent about the actual video. It's the people who post it like they're some kind of master prankster that are the real problem.

Michel

5:54 PM

Downvotes are (for me) "You did something wrong, fix it" and I'm like "What I did?!?!?! tell me instead of only judge me!"

ManishEarth

@fredley exactly

Michel

@Yuki I did ...

Wipqozn

@Michel This user only started posting answers an hour ago. It's far too early to think he's a problem that needs special attention outside of some comments to deal with.

Yuki

@OrigamiRobot Hey look, it's Friday (by Rebecca Black).

OrigamiRobot

Every rebecca black link could be replaced with www.google.com and it would be equally insufferable.

Unionhawk

5:55 PM

@Yuki Oh hey, it is

Michel

@Wipqozn Ok, I take that point as valid.

@Yuki Die, I hate you

@OrigamiRobot Miss click :P

OrigamiRobot