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Luke

10:00 PM

There should be a badge for most awesome username.

KitFox

Hi @Jasper.

Gotta go now. Talk later.

Luke

What about me?

KitFox

Well, you didn't say hi, now did you?

Luke

That was unsocial.

KitFox

Hi @Luke.

Bye!

Luke

10:00 PM

Hi then

Bye then

user19161

I only know asocial and antisocial.

RegDwight АΑA

@Luke then it would go to

awesomeguy

23 3

Luke

What does your username mean anyway? @RegDwightАΑA

RegDwight АΑA

Elton John

Sir Elton Hercules John, CBE (born Reginald Kenneth Dwight on 25 March 1947) is an English rock singer-songwriter, composer, pianist and occasional actor. He has worked with lyricist Bernie Taupin as his songwriter partner since 1967; they have collaborated on more than 30 albums to date. In his four-decade career John has sold more than 250 million records, making him one of the most successful artists of all time. His single "Candle in the Wind 1997" has sold over 33 million copies worldwide, and is the best selling single in the history of the UK Singles Chart and the US Bil...

Luke

That's not you, is it?

RegDwight АΑA

10:04 PM

There's some info in my profile.

RegDwight АΑA ♦, Europe, GMT+1

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Luke

You have your own Wikipedia page???

RegDwight АΑA

Of course I do.

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA So do I.

RegDwight АΑA

But only two people in here know where mine is.

user19161

Jasper

Jasper, a form of chalcedony, is an opaque, impure variety of silica, usually red, yellow, brown or green in color; and rarely blue. This mineral breaks with a smooth surface, and is used for ornamentation or as a gemstone. It can be highly polished and is used for vases, seals, and at one time for snuff boxes. When the colors are in stripes or bands, it is called striped or banded jasper. Jaspilite is a banded iron formation rock that often has distinctive bands of jasper. Jasper is basically chert which owes its red color to iron(III) inclusions. The specific gravity of jasper is typica...

RegDwight АΑA

10:06 PM

Opaque and impure.

AND RARELY BLUE.

You just blowed your cover.

tchrist

@RegDwightАΑA Mine is especially challenging to find.

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA Very cryptic...

RegDwight АΑA

@JasperLoy which part now? The two or the is? Or the here?

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA Well, one day I must find out where your wikipedia page is.

tchrist

Of crystal was his habergeon,
his scabbard of chalcedony;
with silver tipped at plenilune
his spear was hewn of ebony.
His javelins were of malachite
and stalactite - he brandished them,
and went and fought the dragon-flies
of Paradise, and vanquished them.

RegDwight АΑA

10:08 PM

@JasperLoy I did post photos here in this very room.

You could do an image search or something.

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA Of yourself?

RegDwight АΑA

Of myself.

Luke

Luke Skywalker

Luke Skywalker is a fictional character and the main protagonist of the original film trilogy of the Star Wars franchise, where he is portrayed by Mark Hamill. He is introduced in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, in which he is forced to leave home, and finds himself apprenticed to the Jedi master Obi-Wan Kenobi. He soon becomes an important figure in the Rebel Alliance, leading the struggle against the Galactic Empire. As the son of former Queen of Naboo and Republic Senator Padmé Amidala and her husband, Anakin Skywalker—a fallen Jedi also known as the Sith Lord Darth Vader—Luke is ...

RegDwight АΑA

Fictional.

Luke

Except, I'm not fictional.

tchrist

10:09 PM

How's your sister doing?

Luke

I'm no sockpuppet!

RegDwight АΑA

Then that page is not about you. FAIL.

Luke

Close enough...

tchrist

Oh me poppet, worry not for the morrow.

RegDwight АΑA

At least Jasper really exists.

Luke

10:10 PM

Luke the Evangelist

Luke the Evangelist (, Loukás) is a character in the New Testament. He is mentioned in three of the Pauline Epistles including Colossians where he is described by Paul as "Our dear friend Luke, the doctor" (NIV). Early Church Fathers such as Jerome and Eusebius claimed that he was the author of the Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles and this is the traditional Christian view today. He is venerated as Saint Luke, patron saint of artists, physicians, surgeons, students, butchers; his feast day is 18 October. Life Luke was a Greco-Syrian physician who lived in the Greek city of...

tchrist

Dead.

Luke

Luke Jensen

Luke Jensen (born June 18, 1966 in Grayling, Michigan, U.S.) is a former professional male tennis player from the United States. He attended University of Southern California from 1986–87 and earned singles All-American honors both years (doubles in 87). He is now the head coach of the women's tennis team at Syracuse University. [http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/other/2006-08-29-syracuse-jensen-tennis_x.htm]. Jensen attended East Grand Rapids High School, winning the Michigan state singles championship in 1983, and graduating in 1985. He reached his career high doubles ranking, ...

user19161

I like the name Luke. It sounds very nice to my ears.

RegDwight АΑA

But how does it sound to your eyes?

Cerberus

@Luke Then what is that label sticking out from under your backside?

Luke

10:11 PM

???

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus das Lichtschwert.

Luke

Luke Donald

Luke Campbell Donald MBE (born 7 December 1977) is an English professional golfer who has been the World Number One. He plays mainly on the U.S. based PGA Tour but is also a member of the European Tour. Donald had an outstanding year in 2011, winning several tournaments and awards. He won the PGA Tour money list and European Race to Dubai to complete a historic double. He is the only player to ever win both money lists on the PGA and European Tours in the same year. He was named the PGA Player of the Year and PGA Tour Player of the Year, becoming the first Englishman to win either award. H...

user19161

My favourite female name is ... Rachel. I dunno why.

Luke

Let's play multiple choice...

RegDwight АΑA

Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke is a Franco-Belgian comics series created by Belgian cartoonist Maurice De Bevere, better known as Morris, and for one period written by René Goscinny. Set in the American Old West, it stars the titular character, Lucky Luke, the cowboy known to "shoot faster than his shadow". Along with The Adventures of Tintin and Asterix, Lucky Luke is one of the most popular and best-selling comic-book series in continental Europe. About half of the series' adventures have been translated into English. Lucky Luke comics have been translated into 23 languages, including many European l...

Luke

10:12 PM

See, I do have my own Wikipedia page...

tchrist

The honeysweetest name to any man’s ears is his very own. Each time he hears it, he pricks up his ears, plucks up his courage, and turns a smile towards his fears.

user19161

@tchrist Wow, very poetic.

Jez

unless you're Mohammed.

Cerberus

Okay, perhaps it's not exactly a label.

Luke

@RegDwightАΑA Beware my lightsaber...

tchrist

10:13 PM

@JasperLoy Rachel Rachel I’ve been thinking / What a fine world it would be / If all the men were far transported / Far beyond the Northern Sea.

user19161

@Jez I wonder why it is so common. There are many spellings too.

Cerberus

Ehh keep your sabre sheathed, thank you very much.

Jez

@JasperLoy you wonder? it's obvious - Islam

RegDwight АΑA

All your Rachel are belong to Ross.

Luke

Whoops, there goes half my monitor. guilty look

user19161

10:13 PM

@Jez I mean yeah, other than that.

user19161

I have not really decided my favourite male name yet.

Jez

there doesnt need to be another reason

Cerberus

I told you...

RegDwight АΑA

Every popular name is popular for some silly reason.

tchrist

Would you deny men their heroes?

RegDwight АΑA

10:15 PM

Every name exists for some silly reason.

@tchrist I wouldn't. And that's my point. No need to drag religion in here.

Cerberus

user19161

I think my favourite male name is ... Michael.

tchrist

@RegDwightАΑA Didn’t.

Cerberus

Why so Biblical?

Luke

Alright, I've scotch-taped it back together. and..

I taped a piece of paper of @Cerberus 's name and avatar.

Cerberus

10:16 PM

You mean *sock-patched.

RegDwight АΑA

@JasperLoy Hm. Michael Bay, George Michael... Sorry, no.

user19161

@Cerberus Maybe it should be Cerberus then?

Cerberus

@JasperLoy Better.

@Luke Why?

Luke

Do not warn a jedi!

I have my reasons... smug look

tchrist

@Luke His true name is Don Ursa, and he is good knight and true.

Mahnax

10:17 PM

Good day.

user19161

@mah Boo!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Hi.

Luke

Luke Skywalker here with my lightsaber @Mahnax

My screen is now taped back together.

Mahnax

@Luke Pardon?

Luke

Whoops, there goes my cup of soda...

Read the transcript.

tchrist

10:18 PM

You’re drinking coffee!!!

RegDwight АΑA

Only Yoda may drink soda.

tchrist

At 15!

Luke

I meant soda...

tchrist

It’s a gateway drug, you know.

Pop.

user19161

@tchrist I drank coffee at 7.

Luke

10:19 PM

now I have root beer on my keyboard.

RegDwight АΑA

@JasperLoy and look at you!

tchrist

Soda comes from the jerk, pop from the can.

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA Yeah, total nutcase!

Luke

It depends where you're from...

tchrist

Nope. Jerks everywhere.

RegDwight АΑA

10:20 PM

I'm from Earth, mostly.

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA Unlike me, who is NOTW.

Luke

europeans...

tchrist

@Luke s/a/o/

Luke

You done yet, @Mahnax?

@tchrist ???

RegDwight АΑA

Haha.

Serves you right, tchrist.

tchrist

10:21 PM

deep breath

Not my fault.

Luke

What???

RegDwight АΑA

Not everyone in here is Larry Wall, you know.

tchrist

Not that.

RegDwight АΑA

Apr 25 '11 at 15:38, by JSBangs

and my claim to fame is that for a while i went to church with Larry Wall's daughter, where we were friends and hung out in the same circles. i once met larry when he came by to visit his daughter and son-in-law

tchrist

euroPEONs, Luke.

Which daughter?

Luke

10:22 PM

???

tchrist

He has two.

Heidi is the elder and Geneva the younger.

Luke

I do? I'm only 15

RegDwight АΑA

Take that up with @JSBձոգչ.

Luke

Me?

tchrist

Thread thread thread.

RegDwight АΑA

10:22 PM

@Luke Hell why not. Yes, you too.

tchrist

feels bad for us chattering at Luke this way

@Luke Done what?

Who's Larry Wall?

My friend.

@Mahnax reading the transcript.

RegDwight АΑA

10:23 PM

My foe.

tchrist

All things to all people, he.

RegDwight АΑA

Yeah.

Luke

Stirred up some rivalry here, didn't I?

tchrist

Unlikely.

RegDwight АΑA

More like some nonsense.

Or more nonsense.

Mahnax

10:24 PM

@Luke Oh, I hadn't been reading it. I just read some of it.

tchrist

Whimsy.

Why have there been no good questions today?

Luke

Do you get the picture?

@tchrist We got a few on History SE

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist Because you hong out in chat rather than thonk up good questions.

Luke

3

A: Early attempts to abolish slavery in USA

Yes, there are quite a few. The very first was in 1688, when Quakers in Germantown, Pennsylvania wrote a two-page condemnation of the practice and sent it to the governing bodies of their Quaker church. The Society for the Relief of Free Negroes Unlawfully Held in Bondage was the first American...

tchrist

thonks

RegDwight АΑA

10:26 PM

It's a phrasal verb.

No wurk w/o preps.

tchrist

thonks @Reg upside the head

RegDwight АΑA

Ah better. See how better that was? Much better, that's how.

tchrist

recovers his thong

RegDwight АΑA

I was waiting for that.

Kit would have delivered faster.

tchrist

Good things come.

RegDwight АΑA

10:27 PM

Come, huhuh.

user19161

@tchrist After bad things, hopefully.

user19161

After every storm there is a rainbow -- MC

RegDwight АΑA

After every shit there is a storm -- MC Hammer.

Mahnax

@Luke I've answered a couple questions there.

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA Geezis.

RegDwight АΑA

10:28 PM

No, MC Hammer.

user19161

But really, there can be miracles when you believe.

RegDwight АΑA

That's weasel wording.

Like the "smoking can kill" they put on cigarette packs.

Guess what, not smoking does kill. Inevitably.

user19161

For suitable interpretations of "miracle", "believe" and "can", that line is actually very meaningful.

user19161

Those who think otherwise, I don't have time to explain to you.

RegDwight АΑA

@JasperLoy The problem is, all three get interpreted by the nutcases that are Mariah and Whitney, RIP.

tchrist

10:31 PM

To those who wait.

user19161

@RegDwightАΑA And even JLO is a nutcase, LOL.

RegDwight АΑA

On the six.

The Cage was okay, even Ebert liked it. Not her fault.

tchrist

-3

Q: Perl module for translating languages?

I just need to translate from Spanish to English. I've tried Google, but then realized that their courtesy limit is now 0 characters... I've also tried the WWW::Babelfish module and it always has a problem connecting to the server when running the example provided on the modules page. Does anyo...

perl

RegDwight АΑA

Hahahahaha.

chokes

Hahahahahaha.

chortles

tchrist

Hey if Google can do it, why can’t everybody?

Oh wait. They can't.

Never mind.

RegDwight АΑA

10:35 PM

There should be a Perl module for translating questions into English. Better yet, into Sense.

user19161

@tchrist If Yan can cook, so can you!

tchrist

Dang it, they won’t let me migrate it to ESL&U.

RegDwight АΑA

Oh come on tchrist, the fifth vote was going to be mine!

tchrist

Damn.

No really.

I hated the not constructive.

Wanted something else, but there were four the wrong way.

RegDwight АΑA

I was just typing that.

tchrist

10:37 PM

Should let you put your finger on the scales.

RegDwight АΑA

I went with NARQ.

tchrist

Yes.

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist I'm no mod on SO.

tchrist

No?

RegDwight АΑA

Why would I be any such thing?

That's like silly and all.

tchrist

10:38 PM

Power mad.

RegDwight АΑA

You misspelled Lad. Also, Matter Eater.

tchrist

Gettin all laddie on us now, are ya?

RegDwight АΑA

That guy even had a "real name", according to wiki. Humanity is pointless.

Dang now I'm Hungary. Must rush to bed before I get a chance to start cooking.

user19161

Now that Debian is changing its default DE, maybe I should look for sth else...

tchrist

I always sleep with air on.

user19161

10:41 PM

Deafult wallpapers and default DEs matter a lot to me.

tchrist

Thrice over.

What is a DE?

user19161

Desktop environment.

RegDwight АΑA

Mar 10 '11 at 2:28, by RegDwight

►

tchrist

Those are those cartoon terminals, right?

RegDwight АΑA

Clicki-bunti as they call them in German.

tchrist

10:42 PM

How many Germanies are there?

Cerberus

I have a question.

RegDwight АΑA

There are about 4 Germanies in Budapest.

►

Cerberus

How do you feel about older man marrying 20-years-younger girl?

RegDwight АΑA

Now I'm even more hungary.

Damn, tweened by a hellhound.

Cerberus

Say 44/24.

You tweened me.

RegDwight АΑA

10:44 PM

NO U

But I am off.

So ask all you want.

Use the main site, even.

Cerberus

The problem is that I feel people should be allowed to marry whomever they like, and yet I would have a hard time accepting this marriage if it were my sister.

(I don't have a sister btw.)

OK bye!

tchrist

Why, is your sister stupid?

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus even you would likely go on a case by case basis. Id est, you don't have a hard limit yourself.

tchrist

gropes for a question

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist why, the comma?

Cerberus

10:46 PM

@RegDwightАΑA Probably not. But I would never consider marrying someone 20 years older or younger, at least not at this age.

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus why 20? Would 19 be okay?

Cerberus

Still too much.

tchrist

Min_Age = N/2 + 7

Cerberus

Yes, something like that.

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus But that's the thing.

Unexpected hanging paradox

The unexpected hanging paradox, hangman paradox, unexpected exam paradox, surprise test paradox or prediction paradox is a paradox about a person's expectations about the timing of a future event (e.g. a prisoner's hanging, or a school test) which he is told will occur at an unexpected time. Despite significant academic interest, there is no consensus on its precise nature and consequently a final 'correct' resolution has not yet been established. One approach, offered by the logical school of thought, suggests that the problem arises in a self-contradictory self-referencing statement at t...

Cerberus

10:47 PM

Although I forgot what N was.

RegDwight АΑA

If 19 is okay, so is 20. If 19 is not okay, so is 18.

tchrist

Your age.

min_companion_age(age_n) = age_n/2 + 7

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA That is an interesting paradox in itself, but not one that I feel is relevant in clear-cut practical cases.

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist Why seven? I think it must be eight.

tchrist

Nope. 7.

Paedo.

RegDwight АΑA

10:48 PM

@Cerberus I'm just wondering what your definition of clear-cut is. So far your definition of clear cut is the 20, so the paradox applies.

@tchrist joke. meme. ketchup.

tchrist

catsup

RegDwight АΑA

Dogs down.

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Eh it is just an example.

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist are you testing yourself for epilepsy?

tchrist

no, you.

RegDwight АΑA

10:50 PM

I am Fran Drescher, thank you.

Cerberus

@tchrist The question is, what do you do when this formula is violated? I mean, it's usually none of your business, but what if you have to interact with the couple a lot?

tchrist

Hard answer.

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus but I'm not following. If it's just a meaningless example, how is that a meaningful question?

Cerberus

Yeah.

tchrist

I have seen this, where it has not gone well.

Cerberus

10:52 PM

@RegDwightАΑA It is not a meaningless example; I am just not asserting any specific limit, just a difference that I feel is "off" or whatever.

tchrist

In that people mistreated them for no legit reason.

Cerberus

Yeah.

tchrist

Try not to do that.

Cerberus

But how would you like it if your daughter did this?

It would suck.

tchrist

I have a daughter?

All my dreams are of sons.

RegDwight АΑA

10:53 PM

@Cerberus I understand your intention. In fact it's precisely to deepen my understanding that I'm asking you what number is relevant and why.

tchrist

Or nightmares.

Cerberus

You can have all three.

tchrist

At the end of the day, it is their life, not yours, and so their choice to live with or die with.

But it can be hard.

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA And my reply was that it is more about the gut reaction than the exact number. Even looks may make a difference: if he looked more like 30, it would be somewhat better.

@tchrist Absolutely.

tchrist

Is it 30 with 20?

Or with 15?

I knew a 30 with 19.

It was not well-received by the eldest brother.

Cerberus

10:55 PM

But the situation is somewhat similar to one's child or sibling's marrying someone whom you found annoying or stupid or something.

tchrist

They've been married 40 years now.

The elder is my mother.

Cerberus

@tchrist No, I meant 24 with 41 looking like 30.

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus okay let's tackle it from a different angle if you must. I grew up in a society where the norm was the husband being one or two years older than the wife. Three was already strange. Now what? Where do you get your 20 from? Isn't 4 already perversion?

tchrist

That is under the formula.

Cerberus

@tchrist So your mother was 30, your father 19?

tchrist

10:56 PM

No, my stepfather.

My father is only a year younger than my mother.

Cerberus

@tchrist No, it's not! Hubby is 41 but has the looks of a 30-y-o, somehow.

@tchrist Ah, so first marriage?

RegDwight АΑA

My father is two years older than my mother. My stepfather is like 20 years older than her.

tchrist

@Cerberus Yes.

chthon(tchrist)% perl -le 'print 41/2 + 7'
27.5

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist wow, project overkill.

tchrist

So it looks like 24 and 30, so it does not look unsightly?

Is one of them your immediate family?

Cerberus

10:58 PM

@RegDwightАΑA I don't know, it is probably based on what you see around you that determines your norms. All of my friends, who are mostly around 30, have dated between 20 and 40 so far. Probably even between 24 and 38.

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus see, I can't understand why a 30-year old bloke would date a 24-year old girl.

tchrist

When you are 13, 16 looks good.

Cerberus

@tchrist I think if it looks more like "normal", people's reactions will be better, including my own, and looks make a difference there.

tchrist

When you are 16, 19 looks good.

When you are 30, 19 looks good.

Cerberus

@tchrist No, this is mostly hypothetical, loosely based on this advice column I was reading.

tchrist