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tchrist

20:01

@RegDwightАΑA That would be 10.

RegDwight АΑA

Mkay. First Naughty America, now Tera White. I think I know which song @tchrist is humming right now.

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Matt Эллен

and now I must find a counteragent...

ΜετάEd

@MattЭллен An antidote?

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен no prob.

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ΜετάEd

I am really loving my private style sheet at this point.

Matt Эллен

20:04

@ΜετάEd an opposite sweet or adorable person

ΜετάEd

@MattЭллен Who are we trying to set up?

Matt Эллен

@ΜετάEd me!

ΜετάEd

@MattЭллен I have a friend.

Matt Эллен

@ΜετάEd You have message 5758999

ΜετάEd

Odo games?

tchrist

20:07

@ΜετάEd No, a doting uncle.

@JasperLoy All nonnegative integers smaller than 11630 are interesting. Oops, now it’s 12407. Oh drat, stop moving my cheese!

@-deleter: It is not possible that structural comments are deleted without any explanation! How can I address this protest? User with lozange must fix problems where they exist! — Xavier Vidal Hernández 35 mins ago

RegDwight АΑA

Wow, lozange.

tchrist

The problem is now clear.

In his country, lozanges are forever.

RegDwight АΑA

Ange is French for angel. Loz is Spanish for misspelled plural definite article. In conclusion, QED.

tchrist

He’s from LA.

Or Porciúncula.

Which are the same place.

RegDwight АΑA

Porcupines grow in LA?

tchrist

20:18

No, pineapples.

RegDwight АΑA

Attack of the Killer Porcupineapples.

I imagine Duel of the Fates makes for a good soundtrack.

tchrist

LA is not the abbreviation. Los Angeles is the abbreviation. The real name is El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles de Porciúncula.

RegDwight АΑA

Yeah, I can google "Wikipedia", too.

tchrist

But I already knew it.

RegDwight АΑA

Tragic kingdom.

tchrist

20:20

Plus when I google "Wikipedia", I get this, which doesn’t help.

RegDwight АΑA

Well you do get a picture of Onan. What else could one possibly want.

Cerberus

I often Google things like "wiki napoleon".

RegDwight АΑA

Onan the Barbar. Again, with Duel of the Fates as the soundtrack.

Cerberus

Then the wiki article will come up on top.

RegDwight АΑA

Nov 17 '11 at 20:15, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

Cerberus

20:21

Not he again.

tchrist

Just another face of Odo’s.

Robusto

O! NaN!

tchrist

Inf >>> NaN

Cerberus

By the way, have you disabled those advertisements yet?

You can do so in the options in your Wiki account.

tchrist

Clearly not.

RegDwight АΑA

20:22

@tchrist it's funny how the third link is to "English language". More people should google for "Wikipedia"!

Cerberus

Or through Adblock Plus.

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus which advertisements?

Robusto

Seriously, is SO even manageable anymore?

tchrist

@Robusto Segue?

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Like the one in that picture.

Robusto

20:23

@tchrist New topic.

Cerberus

I don't get "English" anywhere.

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus It's 2012. The advertisements are from 2011. They have disabled them by now.

Cerberus

They may come back.

I was just apprising you of this option.

RegDwight АΑA

I am a Wiktionary bureaucrat. I am the one doing the apprising.

tchrist

I get nothing, nothing, nothing whatsoever vaguely like that.

Moment.

RegDwight АΑA

20:24

Weird typo.

Robusto

@RegDwightАΑA Yeah. I remember Vitaly bitching because his Soviet Wikipedia had ugly people, while here in America we had hot babes doing the Wikipedia ads.

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Then why didn't you disable the advertisements?

RegDwight АΑA

Who said I did not?

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Seems like Freud would have to say some stuff about the latest moderator election...

RegDwight АΑA

Seriously, someone feed the dog some sense.

ΜετάEd

20:25

@Cerberus Was there a cigar?

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Then why did you see them?

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus why not?

Cerberus

@ΜετάEd Ehh is that the relevant symbol here?

tchrist

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA You're not answering my questions.

RegDwight АΑA

20:26

@Cerberus I am.

tchrist

Look how way different that looks from Cerberus’s.

RegDwight АΑA

You are not answering mine.

tchrist

Does what I have count as adverts? Dunno.

RegDwight АΑA

You are all seeing wrong.

tchrist

Why did you stick a phallus on the RHS of your search bar?

Cerberus

20:29

@tchrist Yeah, I don't get the sub-results for Wikipedia, apparently. Nor do I get the Web 2.0 thing. The people on the right are probably blocked by some script, never seen those. I do have the options on the left. The rest seems to be the same as my results.

RegDwight АΑA

Coincidentally, this is why anybody still working in SEO is a charlatan.

@tchrist why would anyone not do that?

Cerberus

We all know Google filters results based on location.

And history.

tchrist

And phoon.

Cerberus

Have you people disabled your search history?

tchrist

Never forget phoon.

Cerberus

20:30

Phoon?

RegDwight АΑA

Yeah right. As if anybody learns from history.

Cerberus

Learn, no.

Based random actions on, yes.

RegDwight АΑA

Jasper, take that Cerberus mask off pretty please.

tchrist

@Cerberus More words, Kerby? :)

Cerberus

It looks like a plastic word.

tchrist

20:31

phoon

No, that’s spork.

Sporks are plastic.

Cerberus

I am supposed to know a random moon program?

tchrist

You might prefer xphoon.

It’s a cultural reference.

Did I say you were supposed to know it?

There are those amongst us who’ve phooned before.

And not just me alone.

Cerberus

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Q: What is more cognitively developed, a chicken or a cow?

Recently, I've decided to try and embrace vegetarianism. This embrace is largely for ethical reasons — to step back from anthropocentrism and lead by way of example. However, I don't want to be to adamant in this pursuit as I get started, and I do realize that sometimes I'll probably just g...

animal-cognition

tchrist

phoon is hacker jargon for phase of the moon.

Cerberus

Of course.

RegDwight АΑA

20:33

Hey he found himself a new home!

Cerberus

Hackers need jargon for the phase of the moon.

tchrist

Glory be.

RegDwight АΑA

90 shiny new homes and growing.

tchrist

phoon takes one syllable to say and five characters to type.

phase of the moon, way many of both.

Cerberus

I must credit Mien in Cooking with the discovery of the above gem.

tchrist

20:34

It’s like attributing bugs to cosmic rays.

Cerberus

@tchrist And everyone knows hackers base their haxxorz on the phases of the moon. Just so that they may avoid the next millennium bug.

@tchrist Mien is a heavenly twinkle, that much is true.

tchrist

Phoon bugs are not like Heisenbugs.

Heisenbugs are only predictable stochastically.

Phoon bugs, periodically.

ΜετάEd

@Cerberus What would Freud have to say about the election?

tchrist

Like magic cicadas.

Cerberus

@tchrist This word is seriously used to designate certain bugs?

@ΜετάEd Reg's line originally said "I do the appointing".

He corrected that into "apprising".

ΜετάEd

20:38

@Cerberus So we're talking Freudian girdle.

RegDwight АΑA

14 mins ago, by RegDwight АΑA

Weird typo.

Cerberus

I took that as a Freudian slip expressing a penchant for autocracy.

ΜετάEd

^H^H^H^H^Hslip.

Cerberus

@ΜετάEd Girdle?

RegDwight АΑA

I will auto your cracy till you no longer penchant.

tchrist

20:39

@Cerberus I don’t know about seriously. But bugs that appear at random times are different from bugs that appears at specific times.

Cerberus

@ΜετάEd This is cryptic.

@tchrist And the latter are called phoons?

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus JASPER! TAKE OFF CERBERUS MASK NOW.

tchrist

@Cerberus By me and mine, yes: they are called phoon bugs.

Cerberus

rips off trifold mask

three kittens appear

@tchrist Ah. A very important meme, then.

tchrist

You have never heard of Heisenbugs?

ΜετάEd

20:40

@Cerberus You aren't familiar with ^H.

tchrist

Last week one I fixed a bug that was dependent on timezone.

Cerberus

@tchrist Nope. I'm not a programmer. I know Heisenberg's theorem or whatever it is.

tchrist

Oh. Sorry.

RegDwight АΑA

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Cerberus

@ΜετάEd Alas, no.

tchrist

20:41

Yes, we call them Heisenbugs.

ΜετάEd

POM dependent is the term I grew up with.

tchrist

Some do.

Cerberus

Funny.

ΜετάEd

Heisenbug is cute though.

tchrist

Prisoner of Her Magesty?

ΜετάEd

20:41

@Cerberus It's a backspace.

RegDwight АΑA

That video is the weirdest shit evah.

tchrist

Cerberus doesn’t type.

He dictates.

Hard to backspace.

ΜετάEd

Freudian girdle^H^H^H^H^H^Hslip is a visual typo correction.

tchrist

You work^Wtype too much.

ΜετάEd

There's no reasonable response to that.^U

RegDwight АΑA

20:43

You all have no NO idea.

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Hahaha wtf^wtf.

tchrist

^\

Wait!

I know what's missing.

Robusto

I'ma go home now. You are free to move about the cabin.

Cerberus

@ΜετάEd Right, I see.

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus this was the first time actually that I watched till the end.

tchrist

20:44

Cerberus doesn't grok the ^ notation for control chars.

RegDwight АΑA

That video doesn't make me feel very well.

Cerberus

Control-H doesn't do backspace for me.

tchrist

Then you aren't doing it right.

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Why not?

tchrist

BACKSPACE by definition is U+0008.

Cerberus

20:45

@tchrist I know that ^ is control. I use it all the time in Autohotkey.

RegDwight АΑA

@Cerberus why would it? It's not very natural.

ΜετάEd

Okay, I totally give up on this. EF^C$$

Cerberus

So you declare adherence to the naturalistic fallacy?

RegDwight АΑA

Who you call a phallucy?

Cerberus

! is alt, + is shift, # is win.

tchrist

20:47

^H is the codepoint for "H" — so 72 — xor'd with the codepoint for "@" — so 64 — which is 8, because 72 ^ 64 == 8. Hence, ^H is BACKSPACE by definition. QED.

RegDwight АΑA

! is alt, + is shift, # is win, ⌘ is lose. FTFY

tchrist

Screw it down.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightАΑA this is my favourite: youtube.com/watch?v=-3JCESdFNyw

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен egads him haz moar?

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightАΑA so much moar!

Cerberus

20:48

@tchrist So why doesn't ^h do backspace for me?

RegDwight АΑA

I'd rather watch Narwhals.

Jez

@MattЭллен what the actual fuck?

RegDwight АΑA

Yes. I'm RegDwight and I approve that message.

Matt Эллен

@Jez giraffes sack racing can't be wrong

ΜετάEd

@Jez Careful, that might be an editor command.

tchrist

20:50

@Cerberus Your GUI is registering separate key-up and key-down events for each of CONTROL and H, and not implicitly converting those into the properly XOR'd control character.

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен dude... like... dude... I think you might wish to look up "favourite"...

tchrist

If you were in proper Terminal window, it would behave as I have said.

RegDwight АΑA

It would terminate you, though.

tchrist

Video games play by different rules.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightАΑA I think it is quintessentially British :D

tchrist

20:51

sends Reg off to nappy

Cerberus

@MattЭллен That is some fucked up shit! I like how he is kinder to cats than to humans. I do not like his dissing your Queen, though!

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен if that's your fifth essence, I don't want to see your first.

Cerberus

@tchrist Oh, right, it does work in the command prompt.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus He turned the Queen into a robot with laser eyes. Win!

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist даз нот вёрк. Трай эгейн ин Рашн.

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Cerberus

20:53

@MattЭллен Oh!

Where?

tchrist

@Cerberus Toja!

Cerberus

@RegDwightАΑA Рашн?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3JCESdFNyw&t=230

Cerberus

@tchrist What?

@MattЭллен Yay!

tchrist

@Cerberus That ^H is a BACKSPACE.

Cerberus

20:54

Oh, that.

Oh Рашн is Russian.

tchrist

And DELETE is ^?, because ord("?") ^ ord("@") == 127, which is 0x7F, and DELETE is U+007F.

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен Hm. Horses riding jockeys. Now that's not original at all. I saw it just the other day during Modern Pentathlon.

Which does kind of confirm it's a British thing, though.

Bah. That's some gross shit. Dali would be proud.

tchrist

Dalí.

In Castilian.

Or Catalan.

RegDwight АΑA

Catalan? This. Is. ENGLISH!

ΜετάEd

Or Cathar. Whatever.

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