English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

00:37

@Cerberus you around?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

09:07

Bah. Spent the entire morning merging whose-vs-that's-vs-whichs questions, and still not even halfway through.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

09:53

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Q: How can I pronounce "qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm"?

qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnmurbandictionary.com A phenomena that happens to a computer's keyboard when a human being is bored to death...Bored to death in a cube a human decides to type qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm (all the keyboard buttons in an orderly way) to a search engine to see what co...

pronunciation

Incorrectly. You can pronounce it incorrectly.

That was easy. Next!

Matt Эллен

here was I looking up the IPA explanation, and you're over there with a better answer

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Faster, too.

Matt Эллен

aye

faster, better, snarker

Jez

just went jogging again

agonizing, as predicted

that 14 mile wall people talk about - I get it after a few hundred metres

Anonymous

10:15

Hello

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Bonjour

Matt Эллен

Hello

Anonymous

I have question about learning English language. I learn it with three teachers for three months.

I take one to two lesson per teacher per week.

Right now I think I want to learn with only one teacher.

Do you think it is a good idea?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Hard to tell, as we know nothing about the teachers.

Anonymous

OK I will tell you what I know about them.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

10:22

The thing is, generally you should expose yourself to as many different speakers of the language as possible. That is how babies learn. On the other hand, as far as teachers go, too many cooks spoil the broth, because they tend not to converse with you freely, but to teach you strict sets of rules, each of them having a different one.

Anonymous

Teacher 1 is a certified teacher. I like her the most. She has a good knowledge about English language. I asked her lots of questions and she could answer all of them. She always tells me if I say incorrect sentence, use incorrect verb.

Teacher 2 is a high school teacher. She teaches vocabulary and idioms. I learn with her because I want to know more words. After a month I think I can learn new words by myself. :)

Teacher three is a retired teacher. She teaches pronunciation - phonic teacher.

Some of my former teachers told me I didn't need to learn phonics.

But I think it helps me a lot.

Right now I have trouble with some sound. Teacher 1 told me that she can teach phonics too.

I can't make up my mind, lol.

Matt Эллен

do you feel you are learning anything from your teachers?

Anonymous

Yes. I learned from all of them.

Matt Эллен

drop any you are not learning from

oh

well, why do you want to drop any of them?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

That's a good mix, but do you have to pay all three?

Anonymous

10:28

Yes I pay all of them.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You must be really determined.

Anonymous

Some of my friend suggest me to learn with one teacher.

Matt Эллен

That should be "Some of my friends suggested I should only have one teacher"

Anonymous

Do you think learning with phonics teacher is good idea? There are a few consonants I can't speak clearly.

Matt Эллен

suggest me is unlikely to ever be right, except in the imperative e.g. "Hey! Suggest me for the position!"

@Anonymous I don't know anything about phonics. How does it work?

Anonymous

10:32

She taught me how to pronounce each consonant sound such as a, v, l, r, z

Matt Эллен

how does she do that?

that sounds like elocution lessons

Anonymous

She taught me where to put my tongue, teeth and lip.

Matt Эллен

That's good. It's important to know these things in order to be well understood

it won't teach you how English works, but it will help you to be understood when you are talking

Anonymous

OK, so I will continue learn with phonic teacher.

What do you think about vocabulary and idioms teacher? I think I can learn new words and idioms from book. She taught me by gave me the definition and let me guess the word.

Matt Эллен

Interesting

Anonymous

10:38

I am working on vocabulary books, read newspaper and picture dictionary. I think I got many new words from her but right now I feel like i can learn by myself.

Matt Эллен

If you think you can learn this from a book as well or better than the teacher can teach you then you don't need her. Maybe find a test you can take to rate your idiom knowledge. take it now, give up the teacher for a while and take it again, then go back to the teacher and learn with her for a while, then take the test again. you should be able to see what best improves your learning

Anonymous

Great suggestion!

I will do that :)

I have yet another question.

Matt Эллен

ok

Anonymous

I read online newspaper and list all words that I don't know the definition. Then I look up in my dictionary. I do this for a month but I can't remember all of the word. Is this a good way to build my vocabulary?

Matt Эллен

yes. My brother and I did that as a children. We did the same as you, then our dad would get us to write out sentences with the new words in to prove we understood them.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

10:48

Repetition is key.

Matt Эллен

Yes

Anonymous

I tried to write out the sentences with new words but I can't use some of them. I think I don't have a good understanding of that word.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You can try googling for that word to read it in other contexts.

Then you will have a much better understanding on how people actually use it.

You might discover other meanings of the word as well.

Again, this amounts to repetition.

Anonymous

Ahh, Thank you.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

It's easy to forget a word you only saw once.

But seeing it over and over and over again will engrave it in your memory.

Anonymous

10:51

One of my teacher told me 20 words per week is a good number. Right now I read one article per day and get more than 50 words. I think one article should be good for two weeks.

Do you think 20 words per week is a good number?

Matt Эллен

20 sounds reasonable

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Steve Pinker had some data on this. I don't remember the numbers. Too bad.

It was basically, native speakers learn like 1 new word a day, every day.

But children learn like 1 new word per hour or something.

Again, I don't remember the exact numbers.

Vitaly

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 This data? testyourvocab.com/blog.php (the New results for native speakers post)

Why the heck is it “Not found”?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Nah.

Ah, now that I've scrolled down, there is one bit...

testyourvocab.com/blog/…

Vitaly

> Between the ages of 3 and roughly 16, our vocabulary explodes at an average rate of almost 4 new words a day (3.8, to be more exact). Then, between the ages of 16 and 50, our vocabulary growth is slower, but still fairly consistent: around 1 new word a day (0.85, to be precise).

Anonymous

10:58

23,000 words - that is a big number for me :)

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well yeah. Pinker did the same thing. He took the average vocabulary size, 40000 IIRC, and divided that by some age.

So he arrived at one word per day.

But the more interesting part was how much faster children learn.

Anonymous

Yes. I am old so if I learn 20 words per week then I will know 1,000 words in a year.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I have no idea where I even have that book. At home, I guess.

Vitaly

> Up to one year abroad brings the average student from around 7,000 to around 10,000 words. After that, every year abroad gives you around 850 more words, or around 2.35 per day.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 what is it called?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

11:01

The Language Instinct.

Feb 18 '11 at 21:22, by Kosmonaut

http://www.amazon.com/Language-Instinct-How-Mind-Creates/dp/0060976519

Matt Эллен

I have that one too. I should have another read

although, mine's at home too

Anonymous

I think I may not reach my goal this year. My gold is to speak clear and proper English. After talked with you guys I think I need to know lots of words to reach my goal.

Matt Эллен

are you at university? could you take a year in an English speaking country, at a university there?

that would be a great way to learn

Anonymous

I am working. I also looking for a job in an English speaking country.

What do you think between learn English "90 minutes a day, two days per week" and "45 minutes a day, four days per week"?

Matt Эллен

I don't know. They both sound good

it would depend on your attention span. if you concentrate better in short bursts, then more, shorter lessons is better

Anonymous

11:10

OK.

Paola

If I may intrude in your conversation, I'd say that the more frequent the exposure to English (or any other language, for that matter... ) is, the better. In my opinion, intervals may be rather disturbing as far as fixing concepts and words is concerned.

Anonymous

I am beginner English learner. I don't understand "In my opinion, intervals may be rather disturbing as far as fixing concepts and words is concerned.". Please use easier word. :)

Paola

Sorry. What I mean is that if you don't practice regularly, you may forget things more rapidly. So, if you have the opportunity to speak English everyday, even though for a limited period of time (say, half an hour), I think you should do it, rather than speak for one hour every second day.

Anonymous

Ahh, I see.

Thank you :)

Paola

and the same is true for reading. It is more profitable to read a few pages every day than a lot more every now and then.

In any case, my compliments to you for the goodwill and the determination to learn the language. As someone said before, however, spending time in an English speaking country would do the trick.

Anonymous

11:27

I will find a way. I hope I get a job in an English speaking country. :)

Paola

12:09

Good luck with it. Goodbye.

Matt Эллен

12:20

Yes! The search function answered my question! It is possible not to ask a dupe.

KitFox

Huzzah!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

OMG I am obsolete! poufff

Matt Эллен

Huzzah indeed!

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 well, only for this question. someone else is about to ask about a vs an

KitFox

I was going to!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Tell someone else that he is about to be merged into vgv8, then.

Matt Эллен

12:23

@KitFox how arest thou, on this fine monday?

KitFox

@MattЭллен OK. Today sucked slightly less than Friday.

Matt Эллен

That's good :) sucking less is a step in the right direction

KitFox

The youngest one cried a little less and didn't hold on as tightly.

Also, he smiled and nodded when I said he might get to play with the frogs today.

Matt Эллен

:D awww

KitFox

The eldest was sad and on the verge of tears, but said he would give it a good try today.

Matt Эллен

12:25

oh dear. I thought he was enjoying himself!

KitFox

He doesn't much like daycare, apparently because they have naptime.

Matt Эллен

oh. Does he not like napping?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Naptime sucks more than Friday.

KitFox

But we talked to Miss Jo, and she said he has to stay on his nap mat, but he can read books or draw pictures if he wants.

Matt Эллен

yay!

KitFox

12:26

So we brought nap stuff (Bouncy Man and a blanket) and books, so he can pick.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Naptime is when they take an hour of your life for nothing. As if childhood wasn't too short enough already.

KitFox

He really doesn't need a nap anymore.

Matt Эллен

yeah. adults need naptime. kids have to have it, so that adults can too

KitFox

Exactly.

Except the eldest is old enough to play video games or watch TV while Mommy rests.

So he can do that at home.

Matt Эллен

Ah

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

12:30

@KitFox self-babysitting! the best kind

KitFox

The boys let us sleep until 7:55 yesterday.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

nice

KitFox

Yeah, except I had Mommy Breakfast at 8.

So I was a little late.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

my kids sorta let us sleep. They didn't intentionally try to wake us up more than once, but they got up at 6:30 and basically fought for two hours. But then they napped from 11 to 2

KitFox

It was awesome!

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Sweet!

Matt Эллен

12:32

A little late to what?

KitFox

@MattЭллен To Mommy Breakfast.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

heheh it's funny when you start to rely on your kids as an alarm clock, and then they sometimes don't wake you, which is both awesome and then holy crap, we're late!

Matt Эллен

oh

KitFox

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Exactly.

I thought, there's just no way I will sleep past 7.

What was I thinking when I wrote this code?

Matt Эллен

That taco salad will taste nice?

KitFox

12:35

Probably. I must have written it on a Friday.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So my latest blog post, re: the Lego Millennium Falcon is up.

KitFox

I have two pages, one for adding data and one for editing data, for each intervention, for a total of 12 pages. I'm thinking I can combine the adding and editing into a custom control and reduce the maintenance significantly.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 OMFG ENVY!

That looks awesome!

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 nice! interesting comparison

KitFox

forget that song we got it wrong that thesis has been rendered invalid...

Matt Эллен

12:57

... lets all go for Taco Salad!

KitFox

►

Right! But I was writing code and prepping for a meeting!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

13:43

Geezis, we have questions with 40000+ views already, and in fact at least one with 65000+ views.

Most of mine struggle to get to 1k.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Get your friends to click on them everyday.

user19161

Eugene said he is closing his ELU account, sad panda.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Oh?

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 See the meta question which he edited.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I just came here from there.

I thought he got nice answers. Including yours.

user19161

13:46

Well, maybe he will change his mind in a few days. Just let him let off some steam.

RobinHood

Hello, Mr.@RegDwightB8

user19161

@RobinHood What brings you here Robin Hood? Did you get pinged again by mistake?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Hello Mr Robin Hood.

RobinHood

@JasperLoy :D

user19161

Now there are Robusto, Robin Hood and also robjohn in SE chat.

RobinHood

13:49

It just my friend fragrance that bring me here.:)

@JasperLoy yeah, It was happened twice with me.

Hey, How are you? Reg

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 That post was some drama.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well drama or not, I don't understand what its point is supposed to be.

He just keeps asking the same rhetorical question over and over again.

"Are brushoffs standard practice on ELU?"

Well sorry, that's a NARQ.

RobinHood

5 mins ago, by RobinHood

Hey, How are you? Reg

Matt Эллен

high-hats, on the other hand, are de rigueur! At least as far as I'm concerned.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Well, there is no brush off in the first place. QED.

KitFox

14:00

@MattЭллен Are you giving me the high hat?

user19161

I don't have a hat.

KitFox

♪ Plasma...Electrons are free...Plasma...A fourth state of matter, not gas, not liquid, not solid! ♫

I've got this song in my head.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox You think I'd bother giving you the high-hat?

@KitFox is good, yes?

user19161

@mitch I saw your meta question. It's something I often wonder myself, whether to leave a comment or to post an answer. I think if there is some nontrivial elaboration it should be posted as an answer.

Mitch

@JasperLoy: it was a thought in my head so I said it.

You should see what I hold back.

Or rather, not.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

14:11

No flirting in this chat.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch Are you the kid with his finger in the dyke, in Holland?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Thanks @Rob, I'm fine.

Mitch

sorry, left you out.

user19161

@Mitch Er it's OK. You may keep your secrets!

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 No imagination in this chat.

Mitch

14:12

emoticons are uncool , right? anyway...small chuckles all around.

@Matt: I laughed even though I don't get the 'dyke' reference (must be thinking too hard)

Matt Эллен

@Mitch dyke == dam

Mitch

'dam' == ?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Jean-Claude van.

Matt Эллен

Mitch

something in the news? or is CR2 hollandaise?

Matt Эллен

14:13

it holds water back

Mitch

oh.

yes, that's me.

Achu

It's embarrassing but i need your help guys. I'm writing a short an apology email for my dad. Can ask you guys correcting the grammar please? :)

Mitch

For him to someone else, or to your dad?

Matt Эллен

that should be "Can I ask you guys to help correcting the grammar, please?"

Achu

@Mitch to my dad

Mitch

14:16

In principle, yes, but practically... a meeting calls...later!

Matt Эллен

@Mitch I was referring to the story of the little Dutch boy

Achu

Ok, never mind.

user19161

@Achu So mind or never mind? Wow, lately people have been coming to this room, asking questions, then saying never mind a few minutes later. Like I said before, there is power in this room. Just coming here solves the problem.

Achu

@JasperLoy it's seems that no one is willing to help me. that's all :)

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Huh.

I do wonder where you got that impression from.

user19161

14:21

@Achu Seems? You have not even posted your question. Oh man!

user19161

\facepalm

Matt Эллен

I already corrected your grammar, @Achu :D that was meant as a joke meaning "yes I'll help"

user19161

The power in this room is so great that people don't even understand others anymore.

Matt Эллен

to much interference from intermingling thought patterns

Achu

Ok, Thank you guys i misunderstanding you all b/c of your Silence. @Matt keep correcting this too :)

user19161

14:25

@Achu Silence just means there is nothing to say. Silence does not mean we are ignoring you or brushing you off. QED.

user19161

Though some people's silence could mean they are ignoring you, you never know.

Matt Эллен

@Achu "OK, thank you guys! I misunderstood because of your silence." :D

Achu

WOW! nice...

lol

Ok, here is what i'm wring for:

[deleted by request]

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

"what happened at the airport"

user19161

I don't mean that i asked appoloy that guard disrespecting you,

user19161

14:29

What does it mean?

user19161

and i don't want your disrespectness

user19161

Also what does that mean?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Yeah that's not clear to me, either.

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 No slacker pings, pls.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Okay.

Matt Эллен

14:31

@Achu - with "i don't want your disrespectness", are you trying to say that what you did was disrespectful to your dad?

oh

Achu

YES!

user19161

@Achu What do you mean by apology the guard?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

"I didn't mean to apologize to the guard who disrespected you, I just didn't want you to get into trouble of any kind."

Achu

@JasperLoy saying i'm sorry

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto well guess whether it was on purpose or not. You have three tries.

Robusto

14:33

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 You were talking to RobinHood.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Yes, but typing "Robin" would only ping him.

Robusto

It's a keyboard, not a shotgun. Bear that in mind.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

My keyboard is a shotgun, what's with the second Amendment.

Matt Эллен

@Achu "I didn't want to disrespect you but it was the only choice I had to keep you out of trouble."

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 You don't have the Second Amendment in your country.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

14:35

The keyboard was not produced in my country.

And yes, we don't have Amendments around here, we get things right the first time over.

Matt Эллен

@Achu "I told my apology to mom that day, by phone. I hope she told you that. Anyway, I'm really sorry!"

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

So we now have three competing versions for that one sentence alone. I'm opting out.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 no, mine's for the second sentence that has similar meaning

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Yeah, right.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto well I'll give you one thing, if you insist. The 2nd Amendment in particular did something wrong that you had previously done right the first time over.

Everyone happy?

KitFox

14:39

@MattЭллен Oh, you mean 'dike.'

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Deja vu all over again.

Dike vs. dyke is a hot topic in this room.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox lol. oops

oh, wait. they mean the same thing

KitFox

Not so much.

Matt Эллен

dyke

Achu

Thank you guys it's a big help. THank you!!!

Matt Эллен

14:41

@KitFox yes, a lot

@Achu no trouble

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Jun 9 '11 at 11:55, by RegDwight

(But my link does use the dike spelling.)

KitFox

@MattЭллен Not where I come from.

Although that's what makes the little Dutch boy so funny.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

But it is here that we have to stop. Last time we went on Kit had to thwack the entire room.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox Oh, well, I'm aware of the slang meaning as well

KitFox

I totally forgot about my spinning dragon thwack.

Achu

14:43

Thank you again guys. Can i ask moderators to remove my original message from this chat room. can i flag?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Hm. Why would you want to do that?

If I delete the original I'd have to delete the corrections as well. That will leave gaps in the conversation that wouldn't be easy to fix.

Achu

b/c it's the full message and i don't want to see those under search engines results.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well fair enough.

Except that in that case we should rather delete the end result, because that's the one you'll be using.

Robusto

Go ahead, pronounce "qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm” — I dare ya.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I just did. Three times in rapid succession.

Matt Эллен

14:46

I already did, twice!

bah

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Haha

I win

Matt Эллен

again

Robusto

I did it OVER 900 times before you even started.

Matt Эллен

but is beating your sock puppet really winning?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

23 hours ago, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Great, now I have that Bee Gees song stuck in my head.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

14:47

@Robusto what, you're only giving it 10% these days?

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 The slacker culture around here is rubbing off, what can I say?

Achu

Thank you very much!!!!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Do you see what happens Larry, when you flag messages in the Alps?

Hello mods from comprehensible rooms, nothing to see here, move along.

KitFox

Have I mentioned how much I hate styling pages?

Matt Эллен

no. how much?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

14:56

Seven, if I recall correctly.

Achu

Can i say "may be you didn't call b/c of you mad at me the thing that happen at the airport"?

Matt Эллен

@Achu "Maybe you haven't called because you are mad at me, because of what happened at the airport."

Achu

Great! thanks :)

Matt Эллен

maybe is one word in this context

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I started typing that but had to stop at the second because because because is not a word you should use too often.

Matt Эллен

15:00

I put a comma in there!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Now tell me if you can spell cheater.

Matt Эллен

yes

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

That is so not a valid spelling of "cheater".

KitFox

"Maybe you haven't called because you are mad at me for what happened at the airport."

FTFY

Robusto

@KitFox We be stylin' alla time in here, baby.

KitFox

15:02

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Closer to OVER 9000.

Matt Эллен

@Achu what Kit say is a better option

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox I had typed "for" the very second Matt posted the entire sentence, so I just took my ball and went home.

KitFox

@Robusto I know. Why can't I work in a real place with people who have mad skillz.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен *What Kit said

KitFox

Oh, right, because then I couldn't just leave whenever I felt like it.

Robusto

15:03

@KitFox I dunno. It really is better that way.

KitFox

20 secs ago, by KitFox

Oh, right, because then I couldn't just leave whenever I felt like it.

Achu

@Matt Ok, thanks i will consider that :)

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

So, is Bee Gees an abbreviation of Baby Jesus or what?

Robusto

There are two ways of not respecting the UI. The first way is simply not to respect it; the second is to think that any developer should be able to do it using tools like GWT or ASP.Net web controls — hey, it's just programming, right?

KitFox

Makes me crazy.

I shuddered visibly when they told me (in the first week) "oh, we were hoping for a programmer who had a good eye for design."

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

15:06

Developers trying to make GUIs should be forced to use iPads made by lumberjacks.

Matt Эллен

"yeah, and I was hoping for an employer who knows the difference"

Achu

Can i can i add this before that one "I was expecting your call this long but you didn't call. i understand you are very busy with lots of things. or maybe....."

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Maybe. One word.

Achu

ok

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

For the rest, wait for Matt to answer.

KitFox

15:08

@MattЭллен "I don't know. Do you want me to design the engine, or pick the materials for the seat cushion construction?"

Robusto

Hey, @Reg: 15 more FP and you can retire.

Matt Эллен

@Achu "I was expecting your call for a long time, but I haven't heard from you." The rest is fine.

Robusto

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Q: Is it which or that?

Could you tell me when to use 'that' and when to use 'which'? For example, The word which/that I have chosen in this case is 'which' which/that may be the better word to use or merely be the subject of personal preference.

words

dupe

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto I have a feeling that will take another week.

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Barry Gibb?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

15:10

Gah, stupid sockpuppet, here I was hoping the question would be nuked by Robusto, RegDwight, but no!

Matt Эллен

lol

KitFox

grrr Stupid design!

punches computer

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto but at least we're in the top 60 again.

KitFox

i must needs having moar coffee

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto that would be Ree Geeb, not Bee Gees.

Robusto

15:11

BGs. QED.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Rob is so serious today. Like, totally more serious today than not today. Why so serious today, Rob?

Robusto

> First called the Rattlesnakes, later Wee Johnny Hayes & the Bluecats, they were introduced to radio DJ Bill Gates by racetrack promoter Bill Goode (who saw them perform at Brisbane's Speedway Circuit). Gates renamed them the "Bee Gees" after his and Goode's initials – thus the name was not specifically a reference to "Brothers Gibb", despite popular belief.[7]

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

And he won't stop.

HALP

Robusto

Because serious, serious, serious. Also, I gotta go to the doc because I'm having fucking surgery in two weeks.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Die Geister, die ich rief...

@Robusto wow you're quitting the programming business to become a pornstar?

Robusto

15:13

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Yes, of course. Isn't everyone?

Anyway, Doc now. Laters.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I dunno, I thought the business was dead, what's with the condom regulation.

CU

Matt Эллен

CU @Robu

KitFox

Oh that reminds me that I have to ask for half of Friday off.

Wow, that's a weird sentence.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I think Kris is talking at himself now.

+1. Good point. — Kris 10 mins ago

Matt Эллен

:D

it certainly seems that way

did a comment get deleted?

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Q: How can I enquire about my working days for next week?

I have got a casual job and I want to text my boss to ask about my working schedule. Should I say "When should I work next week?" "Which days do I need to work on?" or anything better and simple?

british-english

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

15:16

@MattЭллен No. First thing I checked.

Matt Эллен

only one close vote left folks! get it while it's hot

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Wow, the reasons are all over the map.

I've picked yet a different one.

Matt Эллен

I picked too localised, but not constructive also makes sense

oh, yeah, off topic too

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Haha

Writing advice. The sentences are too different, and he's asking for more different sentences still.

Matt Эллен

yeah. I saw it as proof reading. But I get bored having to explain that reason to people.

aargh. I can't get my head around this baseline correction algorithm. I need to figure out the first test. I can't even figure out what data goes in

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

15:21

Just use garbage. If it's garbage in, garbage out, your algorithm does at least something right.

Matt Эллен

good thinking

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

15:47

Commute. Laters.

Matt Эллен

cya

Matt Эллен

16:02

Ai vill ulso cummewt

Vitaly

16:21

> Symantec found that the average number of security threats on religious sites was around 115, while adult sites only carried around 25 threats per site--a particularly notable discrepancy considering that there are vastly more pornographic sites than religious ones.

Why am I not surprised?

KitFox

Religious sites aren't for adults?

On a formview, I have 8 elements. Should I use percentages to control the widths, or just fixed measures for some of them?

Jez

16:55

@KitFox Religions aren't for adults.

JSBᾶngs

have you seen most of these religious sites? they're awful.

KitFox

I try to avoid those things. I wouldn't want my son to accidentally find it in my browsing history.

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