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KitFox

02:00

@Cerberus What party?

Cerberus

Oh I thought you had some party or thingie.

KitFox

Party for two, post-boys asleep, yeah.

I guess you could call that a party.

It ended the way most parties for me end.

Gigili

@Cerberus If she looks good, why not.

David Wallace

@Gigili sorry to be differently weird earlier. I was unexpectedly waylaid. I promise to be conventionally weird from now on.

KitFox

OMG, I missed @Vitaly being funny? That's worth swearing about. Fuck. Shit. Damn it.

Cerberus

02:03

@KitFox Sounds hot.

user19161

@KitFox That is called a triple curse.

Cerberus

@Gigili She does. But now she's gone.

@KitFox Yup!! He may have been just quoting a LW joke, but still.

user19161

@Cerberus She went to find me.

KitFox

@Cerberus Hot enough.

Cerberus

@WillHunting Oh no, don't start with that...

@KitFox Ah! As in...?

Or just "hot" hot?

KitFox

02:05

Do I have to post the Aerosmith again?

And the "Whoop whoop"?

Cerberus

@KitFox Ahh I didn't click it.

KitFox

This isn't rocket science, my furry friend.

Cerberus

Excellent!

Gigili

@DavidWallace Um. Hum? Thank you for the, um, I mean okay.

Cerberus

So you are smoking a cigarette now?

KitFox

02:06

@Cerberus high fives

Gigili

@Cerberus Yes, I needed to take a tablet, that's why.

KitFox

@Cerberus I wish.

Cerberus

tries to jump up with paw in the air, but you know what happens

user19161

@KitFox I thought you quit?

KitFox

I did, ages ago.

Cerberus

02:06

@Gigili Painkiller?

KitFox

@Cerberus Antacid. ;-)

Cerberus

@KitFox Ah OK. But symbolically.

user19161

@KitFox Good good, bad for health.

David Wallace

@Gigili No shortage of ums here. Is your tooth OK?

KitFox

Oddly enough, I feel like having a drink now. But I really must get to bed.

I have work in the morning.

Cerberus

02:08

You could have one small glass?

KitFox

Nah. Maybe tomorrow.

Cerberus

If you're not susceptible to alcoholism in general, I see no harm.

OK.

Mahnax

I am just formatting my Bio lab now, @Kit. It's about five pages long.

user19161

I remember my teacher said her husband smoked and she commented "if it makes you happier, what's bad about living a shorter life?"

Gigili

@KitFox It is not =|

KitFox

02:08

@Mahnax That's good?

@WillHunting Missing my grandchildren.

Who I will be lucky to see as it is.

Mahnax

@KitFox Yes, it is.

KitFox

@Mahnax Excellent.

Gigili

@Cerberus Painliver? (Yeah, I made it up just now)

KitFox

@Mahnax Do you feel good about it?

Mahnax

@KitFox Yes, actually!

I am quite confident.

KitFox

02:10

That is the most important thing.

user19161

@Mahnax Good good. After IB Bio is gone.

user19161

@kit Happy April Fool's Day!

Gigili

I don't understand what this is saying:

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A: Computer crashes and freezes a lot

commented: @gigili Quick interject here. On the overclockers site, they are finding that specific C states (standby states) as allowable in the hardware bios are not "as stable" If adjusting the OS power management to stay out of standby altogether is solving problems, Adjusting the allowable Cstates c2 c3 c5 c6 might solve it , and still allow for the system power mannagement. It can be easy to follow a "Guide" for specific boards, but I did not find one yet for that board. A least and quick move, would be to test with only C2 &or C3 states , in the motherboard bios.

KitFox

@Mahnax Did you come up with some good explanations for why it didn't work the way you expected it to?

@Gigili "I am an IT person, so I don't communicate clearly."

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user19161

@Gigili Wow you have 16 gb ram. I only have 3.3 for desktop and 2 for laptop.

Mahnax

02:12

@KitFox Yep! That PDF you got for me helped a lot too.

KitFox

@Mahnax Great! Glad to hear it.

Gigili

@KitFox That's it. I'm proud of you.

Mahnax

@KitFox Thanks again for the PDF.

user19161

How much ram do new laptops come with nowadays?

KitFox

@Mahnax No problem, really.

Any time.

user19161

02:14

I think my 2gb ram means my hardware is ancient.

David Wallace

@KitFox I think it's their way of saying "get an expert to look at it".

KitFox

@Gigili Do you know much about computers?

Mahnax

@WillHunting I have 4GB but I will upgrade to 8 soon.

David Wallace

The idea is that if you don't understand the advice, you don't have much hope of following it correctly.

Gigili

@WillHunting 4 GB

user19161

02:15

@Mahnax How to upgrade?

Gigili

@KitFox Not much, why?

Mahnax

@WillHunting Buy some RAM sticks and install them.

I'm not sure if I void my warranty by changing out my RAM, though.

KitFox

@Gigili I think he is suggesting something that you don't need to even think about then. Unless you know some hard-core gamers or hardware specialists?

user19161

@Mahnax Ah that is something I have not done before. I don't think I need more RAM. I don't do video editing or software compilation.

David Wallace

@Mahnax You probably do. Get the shop who sold you the computer to add the RAM. It will take them all of about 2 minutes, and if you get some electrostatic damage, it won't be your fault.

Gigili

02:17

The nice thing is, my question got two answers both using the semi-forum link, I'm not sure if there's something which sucks more.

Cerberus

@Mahnax Hahaha no comment!

Gigili

@KitFox Ono, I know nothing about those.

Mahnax

@DavidWallace I wonder if the Apple people would do it (bought my MBP online from Apple).

KitFox

@Gigili Well, unless you are interested in learning something new that messing with could mess up your computer, then just erase that comment from your mind.

Gigili

Sometimes SE is nothing more than a forum.

Mahnax

02:18

Apple had a sale on their website, so I seized the opportunity.

Cerberus

What did you buy? And at what price?

KitFox

Oh crap, look at the time!

user19161

@KitFox It is not that late.

KitFox

Good night, fair hero(in)es!

Cerberus

refuses

Bye!

Gigili

02:19

@KitFox Comment erased.

KitFox

Talk tomorrow/later today.

Gigili

Sleep well @KitFox.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Basic model MacBook Pro, $1249-$100 = $1149.

David Wallace

@Mahnax Do you have a local apple shop?

user19161

@Mahnax I think my friend got a new Windows 7 laptop for about S$600.

Mahnax

02:21

@DavidWallace It's in the big city, but it's worth the trip if we've got other things to do there as well.

user19161

I think Windows 8 looks very good. Those considering getting a new comp should certainly consider.

Mahnax

@WillHunting If I get a new computer, I will be building it, and running a Unix-based OS.

user19161

@Mahnax Hmm, I have not tried to assemble one myself. I think there is a wikibook on that.

Mahnax

@WillHunting I think it would be fun.

I could build a really fast computer for not too much money.

I hear it's cheaper than a pre-assembled model, anyways.

user19161

@Mahnax Of course.

Mahnax

02:25

@WillHunting I would want 8 or 16 GB of RAM, 1 TB hard drive, good graphics card, etc.

I might even run Windows on it and use it for gaming.

user19161

Those computer fairs here really have them selling like hotcakes.

David Wallace

@Mahnax Phone them first to make sure they're happy to do it. Some computer shops are funny about touching hardware that you got from somewhere else.

Mahnax

@DavidWallace Yeah, I always phone them.

David Wallace

@WillHunting Some of the W8 API is quite different from W7. Which means that I would expect that there's quite a bit of software written for W7 or earlier versions that isn't going to work in W8, or will work badly.

user19161

@DavidWallace This is new to me.

user19161

02:28

@mrs Happy April Fool's!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@WillHunting Same to you

Cerberus

@Mahnax Ah OK.

David Wallace

@WillHunting so I've been told. I can't give specific examples sorry. But I trust the person who told me; he's very smart, he used to work for Microsoft, and he knows a lot about the internals of operating systems.

Cerberus

@WillHunting I bought my friend a new Windows laptop with a decent dual-core for € 350.

Mahnax

@Cerberus How generous!

David Wallace

02:33

@Cerberus Did he/she come on to you afterwards?

Cerberus

@Mahnax Well, I collected money from other friends to present it at her birthday party.

@DavidWallace She's not like that, you know.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Ah, I see.

user19161

@Cerberus Wow, and you are not getting one for yourself! This must be a very special friend, a Maria maybe.

Cerberus

@WillHunting I only paid about 1/15 of it.

And I don't need a new computer, because mine is quite new (4 years old). It can still easily take anything you throw at it.

Except the latest games perhaps (except at low settings), but then I don't usually play such games.

user19161

@Cerberus Wait, it is 4 years old with XP?

Cerberus

02:39

The age of the computer and the OS aren't really related.

user19161

I would think that shops stopped selling XP installed ones long ago.

user19161

So maybe you installed it yourself.

Cerberus

I built the computer myself.

user19161

Or the shop keeps very old stock in general.

Cerberus

And I installed the OS too. Reinstalled it several times in between too.

user19161

02:41

@Cerberus Congrats! I need to try that some day.

Gigili

Uhh ...

Cerberus

The only hard thing is deciding which parts to use.

But if you follow some list for a computer around your budget that someone on the internet composed, that's easy.

Then just watch a few YT videos about assembling a computer.

Gigili

Oh?

user19161

Or maybe you can go the parts shop and ask around.

Cerberus

Nah.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

02:42

These days building a computer is really easy. Almost all parts are soldered onto the motherboard for you.

Cerberus

Like which?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

When I was a wee li''le lad, you had to install everything separately, and plus you had to make sure you didn't inadvertently create an IRQ conflict or a DMA conflict.

@Cerberus Like... just about everything that is built-in to a motherboard now used to be extra.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oh, yes, no such things now.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Network, USB, Hard drive controller, floppy controller, sound card, etc.

Phil N.

The days of flipping jumpers on the ol' SB16 -- I don't miss those.

user19161

02:44

The dangerous thing is after getting all the parts you cannot build it and you waste your money.

Cerberus

Right.

David Wallace

@MrShinyandNew安宇 and then you had to walk six miles in the snow.

Cerberus

Sound Blaster 16?

Phil N.

yeah

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@DavidWallace Yeah. Only I drove, because my town didn't even have a computer shop. It was 20km to the nearest shop

Cerberus

02:45

@WillHunting Then you bring them to a shop and have them assemble it for a fee.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Ooh, SB16... I had an SB-8 -compatible clone card. Not even a fancy 16-bit one.

Cerberus

My first computer was two rocks and a stick. I had to get them from inside Mount Doom.

user19161

@Cerberus Where is Mount Doom?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Back then my computer had RAM that came in individual dip packages and you had to put them one by one onto the motherboard in these little sockets

Mahnax

My family's first computer ran Windows ME and had dial-up internet.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

02:47

@WillHunting Mordor

@Mahnax Yeah, that just proves how you're still a wee li''le lad.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oh I remember that is read like Morrrrrrrrdorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@WillHunting you got it

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Quiet, gramps!

Cerberus

My family's first computer was my black-and-white Game Boy.

Seriously.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Oh, I had one of those. It was great. My brother had one too, and we could play Tetris against each other by using the link cable

I remember when Sega released their first portable game system, they made fun of the gameboy's "Creamed-spinach colour"

Cerberus

02:49

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ohh yes, you mean the Game Link Cable!

I did that.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 It was more like olive green.

Mahnax

reddit.com/r/bestof//comments/ro47e/…

Cerberus

I spent so many hours on that thing.

Mahnax

There's a decent list of Internet April Fool's Day jokes.

user19161

Like sushi on ELU.

Cerberus

Ah shit, our beautiful sushi questions have all been deleted.

Childish.

Mahnax

02:54

@Cerberus Darn it!

Cerberus

sigh

Mahnax

Next year, we need to make this more epic.

Sneaky gallery chats on other SEs, etc.

We could all mass-prank another SE [2.0] site.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Google Maps Quest mode is the best

They even did street-view in quest mode

David Wallace

@Mahnax but that's what those nasty people over on Linguistics did to us this year!

Mahnax

@DavidWallace Pfft.

Cerberus

02:57

@Mahnax Hmm I like where this is going.

@DavidWallace Oh, not those people.

Jesus.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Me too. Or, we could plan a mass prank for a day that isn't April Fool's and have even more fun.

Cerberus

Like Greg and Edmund and Marjory.

@Mahnax Or we could just mass-spam the entire site all year round!

Mahnax

@Cerberus That's Uncle Greg to you, young man!

Cerberus

My apologies, uncle.

Mahnax

@Cerberus No.

Cerberus

02:59

No?

Mahnax

That's excessive.

Just one day.

user19161

@Cerberus Mah is older?

Cerberus

Pah.

@WillHunting What?

Mahnax

@WillHunting 'Tis a joke.

Cerberus

Oh.

Mahnax

02:59

BRB printing.

Cerberus

Damn it's 5 am again.

I should go to bed, try to sleep.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus You should move to the Eastern north american time zone. You seem to live in it in spirit already.

Cerberus

True.

But then I'd have to move to some place in the Pacific soon after.

Actually I should be in a moving vehicle.

Like a luxury space yacht.

David Wallace

@Cerberus Well you're not staying with me! Three headed dog!

Cerberus

Pah, as if I would want to.

I respect women.

David Wallace

03:01

unless you can chase the cats off my lawn.

Cerberus

I don't want to call them sushi all day.

I could, but I wouldn't.

David Wallace

@Cerberus Hey, whose idea was the sushi thing anyway?

Cerberus

Ehhh...

Gigili

I don't have a computer, please help me out.

Cerberus

I only reported it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

03:03

@Gigili if you don't have a computer.... how are you in this chat?

Cerberus

You don't have a computer?

David Wallace

@Gigili How may we be of service?

Mahnax

Mobile, guys.

Cerberus

You could read a book.

She doesn't have a smartphone, I believe.

Gigili

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I am fine, thanks.

Mahnax

03:03

She kept talking about iPods, maybe she has one of those.

Cerberus

(She's probably accessing the computer terminal in the loony bin.)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Gigili er... I meant "how is it that you are in this chat without a computer"

David Wallace

When my son was small, he thought that "iPods" meant "eye sockets".

Cerberus

Haha.

Mahnax

Aww.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

03:05

Anyway, @Gigili, what kind of help do you need?

Gigili

@MrShinyandNew安宇 What kind of help do you have so I can choose one?

Cerberus

I think he can offer you anything you need.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Gigili I dunno. You said "I don't have a computer, please help me out."

Gigili

I think the toothache has affected my mind.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I guess I can offer advice.

Gigili

03:10

Advice? Pft.

Cerberus

See a dentist tomorrow.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Besides that, what else could I offer? Oh, I suppose I could give you a computer science lesson, as long as Cerb promises not to look.

Mahnax

> See a ~~dentist~~ lemon tomorrow.

FTFY.

Gigili

@MrShinyandNew安宇 The best offer ever.

Cerberus

Don't worry, I would sooner...I don't know what I'd do sooner. But I'd do it sooner.

Gigili

03:13

It's enough for me to know you'd sooner.

Cerberus

@Mahnax Are lemons bad when you have a tooth ache?

Gigili

I don't even need to know what you'd sooner.

Cerberus

Good, good.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Not sure.

Lemons > dentists, though.

Cerberus

I've never had an actual tooth ache.

Though my teeth hurt when I drink cold water and such.

David Wallace

03:19

The worst sort of toothache is one you get on a Friday evening. Then you have to tolerate it all weekend before you can see a dentist on Monday.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@DavidWallace You don't have weekend dentists in your neighbourhood?

David Wallace

A small number of dentists are available evenings and weekends, but then you get a wallet-ache.

Gigili

"The worst sort of toothache" doesn't make sense.

They only have sushi in NZ.

David Wallace

@Gigili - was there a computer-related question I can help you with? I did offer several minutes ago. Or I can ask my wife (4 years of dentistry study) for tooth-related advice if that's what you want?

Gigili

@DavidWallace Thank you, you're so kind.

David Wallace

03:24

However, reading your mind is something I'm still working on.

Gigili

Actually, it's a wisdom tooth pain or something.

David Wallace

Do you still have all your wisdom teeth?

Gigili

Not all, but yes.

Cerberus

I have them all.

David Wallace

Is one of them impacting its neighbour?

Gigili

03:26

"Still" doesn't work in my case, seriously.

Cerberus

Wisdom can be a burden.

Gigili

@DavidWallace I don't know, maybe.

David Wallace

If you're going to have them removed, I think it's best to remove them all at once. I had to take two days off work when I had it done (about 20 years ago); but at least then, they were all gone, and I didn't have to go through it all again.

Gigili

Yes, that's why I prefer to wait and I don't go to dentist. It's about losing 5-6-7-8 teeth.

I was about to say toothes, yeah.

> Try chewing gum on the side where you're experiencing pain.

Cerberus

My dentist has been telling me to have them removed for years and years.

David Wallace

03:29

@Gigili Sometimes I find it difficult to tell whether you're being ironic.

Cerberus

"Sometimes".

David Wallace

If one is impacting its neighbour, it's best to remove it before it makes too large a hole, or pushes the neighbour out of alignment.

Gigili

Right.

David Wallace

But until you can see the dentist, painkillers are your friends.

Are you able to get anything like diclofenac without a prescription in Iran?

Gigili

03:45

Yes, I think so.

I already took 2.

David Wallace

Then I am just completely redundant.

Gigili

Skype is getting worse with those new disgusting emoticons.

@DavidWallace You're just lovely.

David Wallace

@Gigili awww shucks!

Meysam

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@DavidWallace yup

@DavidWallace it screws stomach

David Wallace

Yes, I know, but for emergencies and short periods of time, diclofenac can be really useful. It has certainly saved me, from time to time.

Meysam

03:58

@DavidWallace toothache?

David Wallace

In New Zealand, you need a prescription for it, but I tend to stockpile it.

@Meysam Not me. Your beautiful compatriate.

Meysam

@DavidWallace Thanks. very kind of you

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