English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

@MattЭллен I read it as "sun over 10" and think "by the time the sun reaches 10 o'clock it's not early anymore" but really you just have to buckle down and memorize by brute force because Chinese is frickin' hard.

Cerberus

12:19 PM

I thought maybe you were semi-jokingly saying that you were away because you wished to evade the fray.

KitFox

I was being egocentric.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен You know I resist deleters and closers where I can.

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 ah! that's better.

Cerberus

Soo... nice weather, huh?

KitFox

Is there a checkmark in the Windows symbol set?

Cerberus

12:21 PM

Hmm...no idea.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox There's one in unicode

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus true. :) Your standing up to Reg and waiwai in the name of fun was pleasing to watch

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

☑✓✔

Cerberus

April 1 fun. Mods no fun.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

but font support is necessary. For example, I'm not sure if Windows XP has the right font out of the box.

Gigili

12:22 PM

I just got a low battery alarm from my body.

Cerberus

Probably not, but I can see it.

KitFox

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oh, thanks. I couldn't find it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Sleep talking man: sleeptalkinman.blogspot.ca/2012/04/apr-2-2012.html

> "You're gonna have to shave your pubes. It's like fighting an army of permed spider legs down there, and I'm gonna lose. I'm gonna lose."

Cerberus

@Gigili Are you still up? What did it say?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Probably "Connect your charger"

Or maybe "اتصال شارژر خود را"‎

Gigili

12:24 PM

@Cerberus I'm more down than up. "Get some sleep" or what Mr.S said.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 No no no no, I spoken just English.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox Here are the corresponding exes: ☒✗✘

@Gigili So when you're translating stuff, what are you translating to/from?

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 none of my exes look like that rimshot

KitFox

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Thanks.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен Mine neither, that's why I needed to search for some exes with character (map)

Matt Эллен

:D

KitFox

12:27 PM

Oh, oh, you're killing me. That's awful.

melts into puddle of slush

Matt Эллен

oh no!

gets a bucket for kit

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Haha. That guy is really not sane by any definition.

Gigili

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Fa <> En. But my body speaks English.

Cerberus

@Gigili What do you mean?

KitFox

@Gigili Is Farsi your native tongue? For some reason, I thought it was something else.

Gigili

12:29 PM

I've been awake for 31 hours.

@KitFox For what reason?

Cerberus

@Gigili Why aren't you going to bed now?

KitFox

@Gigili I have no idea.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Gigili wow, you get better performance than my cell-phone!

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KitFox

Go to bed, @Gigili!

Gigili

I need to get back to normal sleep pattern or whatever it's called. I should go to bed at 0800!

KitFox

12:31 PM

tucks in @Gigili and kisses her head Let's sing her a lullaby.

Night-night, @Gigili. Time to sleep now. Night-night.

Cerberus

@Gigili Can't you take a nap first?

That's what I did.

I do feel awful now waking up.

Gigili

@KitFox Kiss back

Cerberus

Why is it necessary to stay up all the time?

Gigili

@KitFox On-ly-three-hours?

KitFox

@Gigili Time to sleep. Have a little nap now. Night-night. shh-shh

Cerberus

12:33 PM

Perhaps the time for negotiation is over and you should just put her to bed.

Gigili

It isn't necessary, I couldn't sleep last night so I am up to go to bed earlier.

Cerberus

How many hours do you plan to stay awake from now?

KitFox

31 hours is too long to be awake. You need to sleep now, not later.

Gigili

But I'll be up the whole night again

KitFox

Then just have a little nap first.

Cerberus

12:35 PM

Can't you spread out your shift over a few days?

Go to bed a few hours later than the previous day for a few days.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

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Q: What's the difference between "distributors" and "resellers"?

I saw it in VMware's annual report. It said "We sell and market our products largely through a network of channel partners, which includes distributors, resellers, system vendors and systems integrators...". What's the difference between "distributors" and "resellers"? Thanks!

grammar

Gigili

@KitFox I will try now but I love you.

@Cerberus I could, didn't think about it!

KitFox

@RegDwightѬſ道 One distributes, the other resells. But I'm not going to tell which is which.

Cerberus

@Gigili rolls eyes

@Gigili See how good Kit is with children?

KitFox

> Thank you Kit for this thoughtful response!

I hate my project lead.

Cerberus

12:38 PM

At least you seem to be gaining ground.

Matt Эллен

Was that your response! He's taken it well

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@KitFox Oh I thought that was the OP's response to your comment.

KitFox

@Gigili I love you too, honey. Just close your eyes for fifteen minutes.

Cerberus

Or twenty. Ish.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightѬſ道 I thought this too.

KitFox

12:38 PM

@Cerberus shh Fifteen is all that is required.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Coincidence? I don't think so!

KitFox

@RegDwightѬſ道 Exactly.

Cerberus

@KitFox I was trying to soften her up.

KitFox

@Cerberus Hey, who's the mommy here? I know a thing or two about a thing or two.

Cerberus

OK OK, fair enough.

Matt Эллен

12:39 PM

That's right, because momma bears just know what's right

Cerberus

Hmm I'm feeling more awake already, a bit.

Still tired.

KitFox

When my oldest needs a nap, it's the same. "Just lie down and close your eyes for fifteen minutes." It's amazing how short fifteen minutes is when you are sleeping.

Cerberus

You mean how long.

Like 8 hours.

KitFox

And how long it can be when you are not sleeping.

Matt Эллен

I tried to have a short nap yesterday. I accidentally slept for 2 hours

KitFox

12:41 PM

@Cerberus Nah, he can't tell time yet.

Matt Эллен

next time I'll set an alarm

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Ohh that's so awful.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@MattЭллен OMG same here.

KitFox

Wow. thinks about naps

RegDwight Ѭſ道

He thinks what I think, he sleeps when I sleep. Matt, are you my lost sockpuppet?

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Matt Эллен

12:42 PM

@Cerberus It made it difficult to get to sleep last night. but I don't seem to be extra tired today

Cerberus

Then you panic as in OMG did I miss anything? will I be able to sleep at night?, and you will feel dull and sluggish.

@MattЭллен Hmm better than expected!

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightѬſ道 lost in your tumble dryer, thrown out with the garbage

@Cerberus yes :)

Cerberus

@KitFox Just lie down and rest your eyelids for a few minutes, honey.

@RegDwightѬſ道 I thought you had a planned 4.5-hour nap.

22 secs ago, by Cerberus

By the way, I have a déjà-vu now.

Matt Эллен

all over again?

KitFox

@MattЭллен Most escape over the top of the washer barrel.

Cerberus

12:44 PM

I guess so.

Ahhh!

I'm going crazy!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Again?

Matt Эллен

bad spelling and tweened. whatever next @Cerberus?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

How many crazy can you go?

Cerberus

No, not again.

@MattЭллен Ahhh2!

Matt Эллен

@KitFox it's scary back there

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

12:46 PM

Wow, I over-napped yesterday too! spooky

Matt Эллен

were y'all as hungover as I was too?

KitFox

@MattЭллен If it's any consolation, I would handwash you, so your buttons wouldn't loosen.

Cerberus

I overnapped twenty minutes ago.

I am badly hungover now.

From the nap, not alcohol.

KitFox

Have something greasy.

That always helps.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Like John Travolta.

KitFox

12:47 PM

Hahaha

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Or David Hasselhoff

Matt Эллен

@KitFox awwww, that's sweet :) and I would be an extra lifelike sock-puppet

Cerberus

@KitFox I already ate a cracker with cheese. Will get another.

Robusto

Either I've never used the word before in ELU chat or search isn't working.

Matt Эллен

oh, chat search is weird

RegDwight Ѭſ道

12:48 PM

@Cerberus This time, get cheese with a cracker, or at least turn it upside down.

Matt Эллен

it breaks on and and or

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Or skip on the cracker altogether.

Cerberus

Search always sucks.

KitFox

So what shall I talk about in this meeting today? I am kinda stuck with just one agendum right now.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 You must be a very original cook.

@KitFox approves

RegDwight Ѭſ道

12:49 PM

@Robusto you misspelled b4.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 What do you think, I'm a cheese maniac?

Robusto

Also, it searches by word stem. So if you search for feeling it returns all instances of feel as well. I feel that's not optimal.

Cerberus

@Robusto I hates, hates it.

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 no ur

Carlo_R.

@Matt Эллен - I have restricted the question to business-language. Is "Business-language: word to describe those who perceive problems in advance and plan appropriately" constructive question now?

Robusto

12:49 PM

@Carlo_R Unicorns can do that. Business unicorns, I mean.

Cerberus

Language ≠ people.

And ≠ a question.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@KitFox Talk about business unicorns.

Cerberus

Perhaps I am nitpicking.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Perhaps?

Matt Эллен

@Carlo_R I've been pondering. It is less subjective now. I can't retract my close vote, but if no one else thinks it is not constructive I guess you'll be fine.

Cerberus

12:51 PM

I didn't understand it anyway, and then I thought perhaps it was because the categories didn't match up.

Robusto

In fact, if unicorns gave us bacon, they'd be perfect. Also, pie.

KitFox

@Carlo_R This meta question might help you with formulating a good single word request.

Carlo_R.

@Robusto What is "unicorns"

user19161

@Carlo_R A unicorn is a mythical creature.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Carlo_R It's the opposite of icorns.

Cerberus

12:51 PM

RegDwight Ѭſ道

A secret product by apple.

Mar 29 at 0:31, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 Let us not confuse him.

user19161

@carlo en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Every product by Apple is top secret. You never know what to expect. Will it be the Ipad 3? Or the Ipad 4? Nerve-wrecking.

KitFox

@Carlo Although you have narrowed the context, you still haven't described why you want it, how you want to use it, or other words that you have considered and rejected, so I would be inclined to close it still.

That makes the question pretty subjective, which is frowned upon.

user19161

12:54 PM

Provided there are people frowning.

Matt Эллен

frowns

user19161

does not frown

user19161

Frowning causes wrinkles, so do not frown. QED.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

frowns twice

Matt Эллен

does not not frown

KitFox

12:55 PM

scowls What's with all this frowning?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

You invaded Poland.

KitFox

@RegDwightѬſ道 Never!

Matt Эллен

subjective questions, they weigh heavy on my brow

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@KitFox It's in the transcript.

user19161

Never say never.

Carlo_R.

12:56 PM

@KitFox I think to persons that every CEO would assume.

Matt Эллен

only say only

KitFox

Always say always.

user19161

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Q: Word(s) to describe a set of things, which can't be empty

I'm a programmer, and in my case students need to pick from a set of exams. They get to choose which ones but they must select at least 2 and at most 3. I've been trying to find a way to refer to such exams. I've thought of: Elective Exams Opt-in Exams Given English is not my mother tongue, ...