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6:00 PM
@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Ai as in...?
 
Why was this reposted?
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Q: When using complete sentences in parenthetical e.g. or i.e. situations, should the first word be capitalized?

In a bulleted list of very technical sentences, where each bulleted item has one or two parenthetical examples or restatements which are complete sentences, should the first letter of each e.g. or i.e. sentence be capitalized or not? Example: Here is my technical sentence. (e.g., Should the wo...

 
@Cerberus How to write out the sound of a Long A in English (depicted in one questio as "Ai")
 
@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū yes but i refer to yesterday,
 
@GraceNote oh that old chestnut. yeah, that's a silly spelling rule. spelling in English is 50% guess work
 
Can I get some exact dupe votes on this?
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A: When using complete sentences in parenthetical e.g. or i.e. situations, should the first word be capitalized?

simchonaWhen you're using e.g. and i.e., don't capitalize the statement you refer to. From here, and here there are some sample sentences: Our backup drives (i.e. drives F and G) are new. Our pet, Squiggly (i.e., the snail we brought home after the lab experiments were finished), loves to curl u...

 
6:01 PM
@Cerberus Ai-men vs Ah-men
 
(Those are two questions. By the same person. We just got one migrated from Writers.)
 
@MattEllenД Thanks, done.
 
Probably the user on Writers was told it should be on English, so they just posted there rather than wait for migration.
 
@KitΘδς No, thank you :)
 
@Grace Can you just merge them since you're a mod?
 
6:02 PM
@GraceNote To write it in IPA or in common pronunciation-English?
 
They're literally the same question
 
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@MattEllenД No, both of you should thank me!
 
@MattEllenД I should have told him to post it as a question.
 
@Cerberus Uh, just for how to pronounce "amen". See here
 
/ɛi/ and ay are most common, I think, for a in lane.
 
6:03 PM
@MattEllenД And you should have done better than a text wall as an answer.
 
@simchona we migrated it to english, and they migrated it back
 
@KitΘδς aye I got impatient
 
@JSBᾶngs No -- the original question was never migrated. She just reposted there.
 
Which one should be the main question?
 
@simchona oh. sorry
 
6:05 PM
@GraceNote I think the longer one, since it has more examples
 
The bodies were edited so I'd like to merge in the direction of the one we think is best to house it all.
That'd be the one with no associated user, then?
 
This is a duplicate of another question, isn't it?
 
I think the "Anonymous" one
 
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@GraceNote One ring to rule them all.
 
@GraceNote Colin's answer looks perfect to me.
 
6:05 PM
The user on English is unregistered, so the migration does not associate the account
 
@KitΘδς Someone posted here, I told them to try Writers. They posted a new q on writers, and it got migrated here. Both questions are now here
Also, this person used "dissembling" again:
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Q: What is a word that means "to railroad the conversation"?

SharonFor example: Person A says "Stop -------ing" because Person B person was intentionally trying to railroad the conversation. The key here is "intentional". If it helps, I think the word I'm looking for starts with a D and ends with "ing".

 
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Q: Can I start a sentence with "i.e."?

olooneyWhile writing a rhetorical question I ran into a case where it seemed natural to start a sentence with "I.e": How do we handle the case when the list is empty? I.e., if the filter matched no entries? Is that OK in this case? In any case? Edit: Thanks, everyone. It seems the consensus is t...

No, I mean this.
 
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@simchona The same woman.
 
I'm inclined to suggest that if we prefer the revisions on the post that has the null-user, that we transfer those revisions to the post with a user so that we can preserve that someone actually owns the question.
 
@GraceNote Sounds good to me, cap'n
 
6:09 PM
Alright, I'll merge to the owned question then.
 
@JasperLoy Sharon and "Oran"?
 
Merge completed.
 
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@simchona I mean the one you argued with on the word request question.
 
@JasperLoy Seriously? Why are there two accounts then?
 
'lo, @Robusto
 
6:11 PM
Hullo.
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Q: What does "I will buy you a burrito" mean?

ChanI wonder if the sentence, "I will buy you a burrito" is slang.

 
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Q: Would the "Cavendish drawl" be considered a dialect?

simchonaI was reading the biography Georgaina by Amanda Foreman, and came across a description of what she calls the Cavendish drawl, an accent of sorts that was spoken by the Cavendish family. One blog refers to it as a patois and wrote that: the Foreman biography quotes various examples of the phen...

 
Damn, this got closed before I could find out what the sentence means?
 
you will buy me a burrito? Thanks!
 
Is someone good on dialects vs. patois?
 
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@simchona I just realised it is the same question. Ignore me!
 
6:12 PM
patios are made from concrete...
;)
 
@MattEllenД — I don't know ... it has to be deeper than that. It just has to be.
 
@MattEllenД Or bricks.
 
@Robusto Like in the "Then I'll eat my hat" sense?
 
@simchona — I like patois de foie gras on toast points.
 
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@MattEllenД I will buy you booze.
 
6:13 PM
@Robusto Maybe if we had context
 
@KitΘδς and come with a nice set of lawn furniture!
 
But without context as to how it was said? I see burrito purchasing.
 
That merged question is a dupe.
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Q: Can I start a sentence with "i.e."?

olooneyWhile writing a rhetorical question I ran into a case where it seemed natural to start a sentence with "I.e": How do we handle the case when the list is empty? I.e., if the filter matched no entries? Is that OK in this case? In any case? Edit: Thanks, everyone. It seems the consensus is t...

I'll say it again because I don't think you heard me the first time.
 
I saw the duplicate comment
But... I'm not going to make the call on this one. Merging identical questions is a bit more direct shot than duplicate calls.
 
@GraceNote I will buy you a burrito.
But seriously, that was not my expectation @Grace.
 
6:15 PM
I'm not really fond of burritos, actually.
 
One day, when they want to close the SE network, TPTB will post the questions Why? and How?, merge everything as duplicates and then close them as too broad.
 
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@MattEllenД Why is this starred? No sense!
 
@JasperLoy That seems par for the course in this room.
 
@JasperLoy Jealousy rears its ugly head.
 
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6:18 PM
@KitΘδς thwack!
 
??
unwarranted thwackage!
 
@JasperLoy yellow card
 
Well fight fans, things have just turned interesting in the Incomprehensible Room.
kills conversations good
 
@Kit Thwack
times infinity
 
@MattEllenД at last. I was wondering what all that serious talk about dupes, etc, was about.
 
6:22 PM
@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū blows whistle, sends you to penalty box
 
May I just say something? Good olive oil helps tremendously if you want to make a good pasta.
And lots of it.
 
@Cerberus nom nom nom
 
@Cerberus make as in boil in a pan, or make as in from scratch?
 
Good olive oil is good for so many things.
 
Good waffles stick together
 
6:24 PM
@Cerberus Olive oil smells in my opinion. I use vegateble oil instead. ITs better.
 
Boil in a pan.
 
@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Smells?
 
@Cerberus Lots of pasta or lots of oil?
 
@Cerberus I don't like the smell.
 
6:24 PM
It is supposed to smell like olive oil, which smells not at all like olives, by the way.
@KitΘδς Both, but mainly oil!
 
dear Incomprehensible Room: please tell me that Oeufcoque means something other than "Eggcock"
 
By the way, never fry in olive oil: always sprinkle it on your dish just before serving.
 
@Cerberus you are correct about this. olive oil is wonderful
but we "misuse" it a lot for frying in my family
 
Coq = a male chicken?
 
@JSBᾶngs It means "eggshell"
Coque as in coquille
 
6:26 PM
french? Coque, Coquille...
 
@KitΘδς well, that's somewhat better
 
@JSBᾶngs Yeah many people do that. I suppose you could do it if you keep the fire really, really low.
 
@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Yes.
 
But in ordinary frying, it gets too hot for the olive oil and it gets burned.
 
I always cook in high temperture. I'd like to save time.
 
6:27 PM
@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Barbarian.
I bet you butterfly your filets and have ranch dressing with your iceberg lettuce salads too.
 
@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Then don't use olive oil for the frying. But buy expensive olive oil and sprinkle it on afterwards.
 
@Cerberus i've never actually observed that. potatoes fried in olive oil are delicious.
 
Cheap olive oil is bad, it usually tastes like olives.
 
I like olives.
 
@JSBᾶngs You can taste it. Perhaps you like the smoky flavour of burned olive oil; but then it is a waste to use good oil.
@KitΘδς That is legitimate; but many dishes should taste like olive oil but not like olives.
 
6:30 PM
...Why are we even talking about oil? XD
 
My bad.
 
@Cerberus Fair enough.
 
Hehe OK.
 
Olive oil is also good for hands, feet, and hair.
 
6:31 PM
I love french fries.
 
Those should go in a high-temperature oil like sunflower oil.
 
@KitΘδς and Popeye
 
@Cerberus I hope you are talking about french fries and not [hands, feet, and hair].
@MattEllenД You're thinking of Olive Oyl.
 
@KitΘδς Ew. You can have all of mine, then.
 
@KitΘδς Well, aren't you in favour of the oil-fashioned punishment of boiling criminals in oil?
 
6:33 PM
@MattEllen and KFC.
 
I don't like olive oil, either. Fat should either not taste of anything, or it should taste like meat. (Mmm... goose fat...)
 
At the Deventer city hall, a huge cauldron hangs on the outside wall that was used to boil criminals in in the Middle Ages.
@Marthaª Heresy!
 
@Cerberus That "oil-fashioned" better be a typo rather than a pun.
 
@Marthaª Haha, wow, it was really a typo.
Now I will not correct it.
 
@Cerberus No. Certainly not. My methods are much more painful.
 
6:35 PM
@Cerberus That's awesome. did they eat the criminals afterwards?
 
@Cerberus In that case, Thwack.
 
@KitΘδς Oh, my apologies for this amateurish proposition.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Hehe, no, cannibalism hardly existed in the European Middle Ages.
@Marthaª Aww... well, I will take it in good spirit.
 
@Cerberus Shame... with the right seasonings....
 
@Cerberus thwack
 
Cannibalism would've implied an endorsement of the criminal's behavior.
 
6:37 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I believe only human baby meat really tastes good; the rest are too muscled or too fat.
 
Please let's not discuss eating babies.
 
My bad.
 
@KitΘδς endorsement? How so?
@KitΘδς Have you read Swift's "A modest proposal"?
 
When you consume flesh, you swallow the spirit of the person sacrificed.
 
In some cultures, They cook baby animal by their mother's milk. It's disgusting.
 
6:38 PM
@KitΘδς Oh yes, so I am :D
 
In some cultures, they cook fetal pig inside its mother.
 
@Kit How babaric can they get???
 
@KitΘδς Do all cannibals believe that?
 
Why do I return to this room, when I know it's going to be to end up on messages like that?
 
@GraceNote because you miss us?
 
6:39 PM
@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū I suppose if you are going to eat a living thing, you can't be too particular about what's barbaric and what's not.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oh, I doubt it. It was trying to appear suave.
 
@GraceNote Because of that very reason
 
@KitΘδς Which is why I find it amusing that we draw a line at "humans"
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 that's a perfectly reasonable place to draw the line
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes. "Soylent green is people!" And I think "Brilliant plan!"
 
Heck, even criminals might have some redeemable quality. Like, brute strength
 
6:40 PM
"I will buy a burrito" is taboo here from today.
 
i don't think there's any nonhuman animal which it is immoral to eat, though for cultural reasons i feel more comfortable eating some than others. but i don't moralize this discomfort
humans, tho: off-limits
 
@JSBᾶngs Enh, it's arbitrary.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 But the point of the punishment is to excise them from our community.
 
MICROWAVABLE BURRITO!!!!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Eh, actually, some people draw the line earlier at "humans and animals-commonly-as-pets"
 
6:41 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 i find it amusing that you think the line between human and nonhuman is arbitrary
 
@JSBᾶngs Plane crash with dead fellow passengers in the freezing mountains?
 
Inside voice, please, @Chaos.
 
I agree that the line is more or less arbitrary.
 
@Cerberus extreme circumstances. a possible out. but no one said that they liked it
at least, i hope not
 
@Cerberus all lines are arbitrary
but some are good
 
6:42 PM
@JSBᾶngs No one would admit it anyway.
 
@JSBᾶngs They may very well have liked it, assuming they were very hungry.
 
@JSBᾶngs They probably don't like it because of cultural reasons, i.e. ingrained beliefs they are loathe to relinquish
 
@MattEllenД Sort of yes.
 
@GraceNote So the line is "animals we form attachments to (incl humans) vs (non-attached animals)".
 
I shudder even at the thought of mushrooms, but if I hadn't eaten in a week...
 
6:44 PM
All I know is that the thought of cannibalism freaks me out, either eating or being eaten.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Basically, yeah.
 
I'd hate to eat my cat more that eating a human stranger.
 
@MattEllenД I'm squeamish about eating human. I think I wouldn't care if I was eaten after I'm dead. But I'd hate to be killed for food.
 
Personally, I'll eat cows and pigs. Other animals get a pass.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 yeah
 
6:45 PM
Mmm... mushrooms...
 
@KitΘδς No fish?
 
@Cerberus a human, even one you don't know, still has human rights. including the right not to be eaten.
 
Except the occasional deer or moose.
 
@KitΘδς Chicken? Fish?
 
I'm allergic to fish and shellfish.
 
6:45 PM
@JSBᾶngs The right not be to be eaten? or the right not to be killed?
 
@JSBᾶngs Perhaps so, but emotionally it would feel worse for me to eat a beloved pet.
 
I'll eat chicken, but I could live without it.
 
Frog?
 
Snails.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 a human body retains a subset of the rights of the living human. so, yes
 
6:46 PM
Not frog.
 
Really?
 
i've eaten frog. also rabbit, quail, and whale
 
I like frog much better than snails.
 
@JSBᾶngs Why does it retain those rights?
 
i've eaten an endangered species!
 
6:46 PM
@JSBᾶngs gasp
 
@JSBᾶngs Yay well done!
 
@Cerberus, Frogs are delicious.
Alive.
 
@JSBᾶngs See, to me, THAT is worse than eating a human corpse
 
@AlainPannetier It may have been the method of preparation. I remember the snails were more tender.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 because human identity is inextricable from bodily identity. your dead body is still a meaningful fraction of "you", and so it deserves at least a portion of the respect that i accord to you
 
6:47 PM
@AlainPannetier Alive, really? But the skin...
 
though using the word "corpse" makes the thought of eating it somehow worse :p
 
Right whales are three species of large baleen whales consisting of two genera in the family Balaenidae of order Cetacea. Their bodies are very dark gray or black and rotund. They are called "right whales" because whalers thought the whales were the "right" ones to hunt, as they float when killed and often swim within sight of shore. As such, they were nearly hunted to extinction during the active years of the whaling industry. Today, instead of hunting them, people often watch these acrobatic animals for pleasure. Genetic evidence appears to have settled a long-standing question about...
 
Just kidding. Never ate frogs in my whole life.
 
^ i've eaten this. it had been legally hunted by inuit, and given to a friend as a gift, who also gave some to me to try
 
@KitΘδς That is odd. I have only eaten snails once, and they were a bit like seafood in substance, slightly rubbery. Whereas frog is much like tender chicken.
 
6:48 PM
@Cerberus, some just lick the skin.
 
@JSBᾶngs Respect, perhaps. So, eat it respectfully?
 
So apparently that's the most interesting part.
 
@AlainPannetier Yeah but that's hardly food => drugs.
 
@Cerberus Must have been the chef.
 
Tropical frogs.
@AlainPannetier You've never eaten frog? Why not?
 
6:49 PM
Shamans were supposed to find some inspiration in this way.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 well, if you could convince me that eating your body was a way for me to respect you, i might go for it. there are some cultures i've heard of where the ashes of dead family members are consumed... this i could maybe accept
 
They leap too far. can't catch them.
 
@JSBᾶngs Have you read "Stranger in a strange land"?
 
@JSBᾶngs Don't you read Heinlein?
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Jinx!
 
@AlainPannetier Just snap at them faster. Maybe stand on one leg.
 
6:50 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 but i would never accept just butchering and serving human meat in the same way that we serve cow, etc.
 
@Cerberus, let me try.
 
@MrShinyandNew, @Kit i've read other heinlein, but not that one
 
@JSBᾶngs What is human muscle tissue were to be bred in an artificial vessel?
I say no brain = no human.
 
< leaps from the top of the table >
 
@Cerberus Ha ha ha. Now we're getting to the crux of it.
 
6:51 PM
@KitΘδς So could we respectfully cut off the head of the body, then just eat the rest? :p
 
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Q: The strange bug: Sorry, this is a duplicate of...

igorI have got a bug. Please, could anybody help me. Any tricks or tips are welcome!

 
Nah, just cull the herd. Get rid of the stupid ones.
 
@KitΘδς Don't worry I didn't mean you.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I like your way of thinking.
 
@Cerberus So what kind of oil is best for cooking human?
 
The inlining makes the question even awesomer.
 
6:53 PM
@Cerberus You meant the Scarecrow?
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I'm not sure why this is triggering, though.
 
@Cerberus i wouldn't quite go to that, but i'll have to think about it
 
@GraceNote "you"?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I'd say human fat. There's plenty of it.
 
I, you, good, bad, that's all subjective.
 
6:53 PM
@KitΘδς Oh, from Oz?
 
Yeppers.
 
@JSBᾶngs Thinking = good
 
@Cerberus the first thing that occurs to me is that i don't want acephalic babies or people with severe brain damage classified as non-human
 
@KitΘδς Doesn't have to be a physical brain. I wouldn't eat an intelligent computer, probably.
@JSBᾶngs Acephalic? With no head? Do they have brains?
 
Do you have any idea how hard it would be to grow a perfectly formed human without a brain?
 
6:55 PM
Besides, it is important to make the distinction between morality and law.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Not the subjective filter. The duplicate detection.
 
Growing slabs of tissue is hard enough.
 
@Cerberus i was actually thinking of anencephaly, where a fetus develops w/o a brain
 
The thing that's actually barring the post from being posted.
 
@KitΘδς Perhaps it isn't possible. But a tender buttock?
 
6:56 PM
I mean, conceptually, yes, it's the same question, but the actual content is different and that has, at least to my recollection of the past, been sufficient.
 
@Cerberus Oh yeah.
 
i was going to post a wikipedia link for anencephaly, but the pictures there were really disturbing and i'm not going to make the rest of you look at them
 
@GraceNote Ah! Well, haha.
@GraceNote Have you seen any of the "related" questions on any of our questions?
 
@KitΘδς Sounds good, innit.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I assume the other ones include, y'know, substance or context.
Rather than a rehash of the title.
 
6:57 PM
@Cerberus Thighs.
 
@Cerberus i'm skeptical but trying to come up with a reason why. my initial reaction is visceral disgust. this applies to vat-grown beef, too, so it's not just humans
 
@KitΘδς Are those better?
Hmm...
 
Go to a question, I dunno, "What is the etymology of 'ship'", and look at the Related Questions: "What is the etymology of 'yesterday'", "what is the etymology of 'between'", "what is the etymology of 'buttocks'".
 
@JSBᾶngs Then perhaps a threefold distinction is in order: gut reaction, moral judgement, practical law.
 
@JSBᾶngs I'd rather eat something real too.
 
6:58 PM
It will never link two questions about ship together.
 
@Cerberus i'll accept this rough hierarchy. of course every level depends heavily on the previous one
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Question body, question body. If they're just saying the same thing, it's wargh, but if they have more, then it's yayifications.
 
I thought the best parts of a cow came from it buttocks?
 
@GraceNote I thought it's like 95% tags, tags, tags?
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Not for duplicate body content detection.
 
6:59 PM
I see.
 
@JSBᾶngs That remains to be seen. There are no doubt connections; but how strong should they be? It should be possible to judge something as moral that you find disgusting.
 
@KitΘδς i think i'd rather just eat tofu and beans than vat beef, to be honest
 
There are way too many algorithms running around.
 

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