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tchrist

23:00

fetches his Kerberos keys

fetches Kerbie’s keys

Now you can have Tommy Shaw serenading you throughout eternity!

Kareful, he has a thing for Karen.

Cerberus

Uhh...

Nescio de quo dicas.

tchrist

I’m talking about a rock-n-roll band.

Cerberus

The Devil!

tchrist

Styx (band)

Styx is an American rock band that became famous for its albums from the late 1970s and early 1980s. The Chicago band is known for melding the style of prog-rock with the power of hard rock guitar, strong ballads, and elements of American musical theater. The band is best known for the hit songs "Lady" (#6, 1975), "Come Sail Away" (#8, 1977), "Babe" (#1, 1979), "The Best of Times" (#3, 1981), "Too Much Time on My Hands" (#9, 1981), and "Mr. Roboto" (#3, 1983). Other hits include "Show Me the Way" (#3, 1990), "Don't Let It End" (#6, 1983), "Renegade" (#16, 1978), and "Boat on the River"...

Cerberus

plugs ears with wax

I wasn't alive then.

tchrist

23:03

How did it feel to be dead?

Cerberus

We prefer to call it unlive.

tchrist

Keep your undies to yourself.

Cerberus

What did they feed you?

In the psycho ward, I mean.

tchrist

Stuff.

Cerberus

Do you see lots of weird shapes and colours?

tchrist

23:05

Karen is another plutonion satellite.

She’s implacable.

Cerberus

What's that supposed to be?

tchrist

Define weird.

Cerberus

Like in a mirror.

tchrist

►

I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise, they climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies.

Ezekiel 1:1–28

@Cerberus You really should listen to, and watch, that if you haven’t before. So cool.

> The plane carrying Bolivian President Evo Morales home from Russia was rerouted to Austria on Tuesday after France and Portugal refused to let it cross their airspace because of suspicions that NSA leaker Edward Snowden was on board, the country's foreign minister said.

That is completely insane.

Cerberus

Outrageous.

tchrist

23:19

Evil, even.

Cerberus

I am ashamed of my continent.

tchrist

I mean, there’s no need to divert the plane. We can just shoot it down with ICBMs, right?

Cerberus

No, ICBMs don't cause a lot of radioactive fall-out. I think you need dirty bombs.

I'm assuming you meant nuclear ICBMs.

tchrist

It’s easier that way because you don’t have to actually hit them.

Just land 10 nukes around the plane.

That should take care of it.

Cerberus

I suppose that's true.

tchrist

23:21

That would have avoided this embarrassment.

Cerberus

The Tsar Bomba would probably destroy all planes within 10 km, so one will do.

tchrist

Let’s blame France.

Cerberus

I kind of hope he has arrived in Austria.

Less unpredictable than Russia.

tchrist

The Alps are so nice this time of the year.

Cerberus

And there is that.

tchrist

23:23

I still cannot believe it has come to this sort of bullying and nonsense.

Cerberus

Yeah, it's pretty bad.

tchrist

It could have been worse. It could have diverted to Egypt.

Cerberus

Maybe that wouldn't have been so bad...

tchrist

There’s going to be another military coup there tomorrow.

Not usually a good place to be.

Cerberus

But the coup will probably bring at least temporary peace.

tchrist

23:31

An authoritarian lockdown also brings such.

I haven’t studied how it has come to this again so fast in Egypt, the toppling of a ruler.

On less depressing news, Colorado just announced the rule for recreational pot vending.

> Marijuana-laced snacks that can spoil have to carry an expiration or use-by date.

> Labels have to list the potency of the drug and carry warnings such as "There may be health risks associated with the consumption of this product" and "Keep out of the reach of children."

Cerberus

@tchrist Well, Morse is pretty bad.

tchrist

There are all kinds of rules. Like disposal.

Cerberus

So he kind of needs to go.

The army may be the lesser evil. The Musim Brotherhood have proven even worse than expected.

tchrist

Apparently.

You expected an Islamist organization to turn out well?

Cerberus

Well, define Islamism.

tchrist

23:35

That one.

Cerberus

The question was, how Islamist were they going to turn out?

Besides, the main problem may be their authoritarian behaviour.

Notice that the Muslim organisation (partly?) in power in Tunesia has been doing rather well.

tchrist

@Cerberus Seems like it, yeah.

Cerberus

Notice also that Erdogan's Islamic party is not so bad either.

tchrist

Well. . . .

Yes, it could be worse.

It could also be better.

Cerberus

A major problem in Egypt is also huge corruption.

tchrist

23:39

Morsi says that.

Cerberus

@tchrist The AK Party is much better than most secular parties in the Islamic world or anywhere.

tchrist

He may be right.

Cerberus

He is part of the problem.

tchrist

He also says he won’t go.

He may be wrong.

Cerberus

Quite.

I'm kind of glad Chavez is gone: even though some good things happened in Venezuela, he made the entire country seem like a crazy bogeyman.

tchrist

23:41

His echoes remain.

Cerberus

Maduro roughly continues the policies of Chavez, but the image of the country has already greatly improved.

He's also less ugly and a better dresser.

tchrist

So is a boot to the head.

Cerberus

Yes.

tchrist

He got it from his mama.

Cerberus

tchrist

23:44

I guess nobody from South America gets to fly home from Europe any longer.

Cerberus

No private or state aeroplanes, no.

tchrist

Maybe next time they’ll take the train.

Cerberus

Actually, they can just avoid France and Portugal.

tchrist

Perhaps.

Why did they stop in Austria?

Cerberus

Because Austria would let them, probably.

tchrist

23:46

> Choquehuanca said in a statement that after France and Portugal canceled authorization for the flight, Spain’s government allowed the plane to be refueled in its territory. From there the Falcon plane flew on to Vienna.

Cerberus

Apparently, Spain wouldn't let them stay there.

Weird.

tchrist

Probably because of his accent.

Not.

Cerberus

Haha.

tchrist

> He said the decision by France and Portugal “put at risk the life of the president.” Morales was in the Vienna airport Tuesday night meeting with the plane’s crew to reprogram his return to Bolivia, the defense minister Saavedra said.

“Reprogram”?

Cerberus

I rather wonder why they didn't simply fly on to South America, if they had already reached Spain.

@tchrist To find a new route.

tchrist

23:49

They leave Russia and have to stop for fuel while still in Europe? Don’t understand.

Cerberus

Perhaps the plane has a short range.

tchrist

Good luck getting home with that then.

Cerberus

Moscow-Madrid is 3400 km.

tchrist

Yes?

Cerberus

Moscow-Caracas is 10,400 km.

tchrist

23:51

Planes leaving New York do not stop in Chicago and Denver to refuel en route to Los Angeles.

And there are non-stop flights from Denver to Tokyo and London and Frankfurt, etc.

Cerberus

Now add a detour for being forced to fly around France...

tchrist

Fly around France: sounds like they’re touring.

Cerberus

Yes, but Bolivia may not have a long-range plane.

President Rafael Correa from Ecuador said that E. lacked such a plane.

tchrist

Really?

Maybe they are stopping to check for bugs. :)

Cerberus

Doubtful...

Drugs, maybe.

tchrist

23:53

Why would the Austrians give him safe harbor? Aren’t they big on The Rules there?

No, South America to Europe, stop for drugs. Not on the ride home.

His name Choquehuanca is weird. What’s a Huanca? A Juanca? Doesn’t help much. But whatever it is, they’re shocking it, not choking it. :)

Maybe it’s a monkey.

Lawler is at it again:

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