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10:00 PM
@JasperLoy see Singapore^
 
@cc I think that is just a routine test with very mechanical questions, so I don't think much of it.
 
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@JasperLoy Do you know the Ascoli theorem, for example?
I can see how hard Math can be, I'd really like to just master probabilities and stats
now really caring of Algebra, Arithmetic, Geometry (a bit only), differential equations (a bit too)
 
@cc I think I studied it long ago.
 
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lmd.math.u-psud.fr/masterMathematiquesFondamentalesEtAppliquees/… webens-ng.math.u-psud.fr/M1/MFA that's what I was tempted to apply for, but a bit refrained now
I definitly need more applied Math
restrained*
Like this: math.ens-cachan.fr/version-francaise/formations/master-mva/… but I wasn't accepted last month
@cc s/now/not
 
@Mahnax Nice, congrats
 
10:09 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Thanks!
 
Are you all set for sept?
 
What is in Sep?
 
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september
 
Oh.
 
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sept = seven
 
10:11 PM
But Sep=9, lol.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'd say so.
 
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@JasperLoy yep something went wrong
 
I am all set for Aug when I will turn 3 times 11.
 
@cc They changed the start of the year without renaming the months
 
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hehe
 
10:13 PM
@cc You should come to this chat more often and talk to mad people like me.
 
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Asian year is right then, March, April, ...
 
@cc it typically starts in feb
at least, the Chinese calendar starts usually in Jan or Feb
 
It's only 5 months to Xmas, yay!
Xmas is the best time of the year for me.
 
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it's 5+12n months to Xmas
 
I had a dream just last night that it was Christmas time.
as usual for a dream, all the preparations that I'd thought were completed turned out to not be.
 
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10:16 PM
@JasperLoy presents I guess?
I don't really like presents
 
@KitFox I pronounce Omelette as "mmmfgfmmmghh...that was good"
 
@Mitch Om-nom-nomlette
 
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like Ω but you end with "let"
 
@cc I like the decorations in the shopping malls. Window shopping is my favourite pastime.
 
no, for me it rhymes with palm-let
@JasperLoy thought you were more of a linux user
 
10:20 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Because that's how it pronounces it itself
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Linux user can window shop too, lol.
 
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@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 :))
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Odd.
 
@JasperLoy I hate that. They're too big to carry and they always end up chipped or cracked by the time you get them home.
 
Metathesis?
 
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10:21 PM
@JasperLoy Do Bachelor studies cost a lot in Singapore? like in USA?
 
dark L?
 
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~30k$/year of tuition fee, like I've seen sometimes
 
@cc Well, I have no idea of the fees now. But during my time, it was about 5,500 SGD per year.
 
@tchrist no, I don't say the L in palm
 
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ok, fair enough
 
10:22 PM
@cc Also, during my time, the curriculum was terrible. I learnt very few things in the classes.
 
@JasperLoy woosh
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh.
 
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@JasperLoy Was it one of the top uni of Singapore?
 
@cc There are not many here, so the question does not make sense.
 
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oh right it's small :)
 
10:25 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I do. For me, omelette is /ˈɑmlət/ whereas palm let is /ˈpɔlm ˈlɛt/. Like calmative and call me a taxi.
 
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Hamlet
 
ˈhæmlət
 
@tchrist I may have been imprecise in rhyming the lette of omelette with the let of let. But the L in palm is usually totally silent, like in calm and walk.
 
I have it in calm and palm but not in walk or talk.
 
now I've said the words out loud too many times in too many different ways to be sure of anything anymore.
 
10:29 PM
@MattЭллен Aren't you sleeping?
 
I'm not sleeping yet
 
For me, call me a taxi and calm me a taxi are exact homophones.
 
@MattЭллен You must be up to no good then
 
reading about maker libraries in the US
 
@MattЭллен I’m thinking that must mean something I am unfamiliar with.
 
10:33 PM
apparently 1 in 6 libraries in the US are making room for things like 3D printers and laser cutters
 
@tchrist oh, no, not for me.
 
I pronounce call like a Brit.
 
laser cutter in a library?
 
apparently
 
10:34 PM
I never bothered to find out about 3D printing.
 
they're getting rid of books to make room for such things
 
@JasperLoy I have no idea what that means.
@MattЭллен Ok, that’s what I thought you meant, but "maker library" turned up some strange UK/South Africa thing,.
 
although the story says that 3D printers cost thousands of dollars, which can be true, but the basic models cost a few hundred
 
3D printer is like a coffee machine. Laser feels very industry, I would not place a laser in my library.
 
@tchrist oh! interesting.
 
10:36 PM
I worked one summer in a laser so I'm a pro.
 
My friend earns 100k SGD per month for laser hair removal.
 
@JohanLarsson you sound like one :D
I haven't seen one, but I hear the one in the London hack space breaks down a lot
 
Rule 34 is a near-future science fiction novel by Charles Stross. It is a loose sequel to Halting State, and was released on July 5 (US) and 7 (UK), 2011. The title is a reference to Rule 34 of the Internet, which states that "If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions." Rule 34 was nominated for the 2012 Arthur C. Clarke Award and the 2012 Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel. Plot summary The novel is told in second-person narrative but from three points of view: Edinburgh Police Inspector Kavanaugh who investigates spammers murdered in gruesome and inventive ways, and le...
 
It’s actually about various stuff, but illicit maker machines — or more accurately, illicit mix for the base — is a major factor here.
Because certain kinds of base stock can let you make things you aren’t supposed to make.
 
10:40 PM
I see
it sounds like my kind of book
 
Does @Cerberus ever leave the chat room?
 
They don’t like you to have stuff that lets you make guns that work but won’t show in an airport security scan.
For example.
 
He cancelled the third book in the set because reality caught up with him. Pretty much everything he was going to write about has already happened or been revealed to be happening.
 
There is so much security directed towards safeguarding airplanes but almost none directed towards safeguarding just about every other form of transportation or place of gathering.
 
10:43 PM
Someone vandalised the train here and they only realised it was not artwork after a week, lol.
 
they should have just claimed that it was and left it be. less cleaning bills that way
 
There are no dustbins in train stations here, probably to rule out bombs in bins.
 
@JasperLoy because if a bomber brought a bomb into the train station and couldn't put it in a bin, he'd just give up and go home and dismantle it, I guess.
 
it used to be like that here, but I think they got tired of cleaning up after everyone
they still don't have bins in tube stations
 
And there certainly isn't anywhere that the bomb could be hidden besides a garbage can.
 
10:46 PM
it's not like the 7/7 bomb went off in a bin
 
Nope, that was the one and only place, and the removal of garbage cans has led to a dramatic increase in lives saved.
 
you still lock your door, though
if someone wants to break in, they'll smash a window
 
@JasperLoy Sometimes! And hi.
 
locking my door has almost zero downside. Also I have an alarm system.
 
I would like to ask this question again. What if one day you want to do something to improve society but it is against the law? That is, what you consider right others consider wrong and even made it illegal.
 
10:47 PM
removing garbage bins has a high cost: it's very inconvenient for thousands of law-abiding people, and for transit staff who have to clean up litter. And it doesn't achieve anything.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 How do you mean? Security precautions for trains and large events are quite extensive.
 
@Cerberus sorry to hear about your friend hugs
 
@Cerberus Really? as extensive as airports? I've never passed through a security line to get on any train anywhere.
 
@MattЭллен Thanks!
 
Nobody ever went through my bags or made me take off my shoes.
 
10:48 PM
He has become a kind of local celebrity.
 
@Cerberus I wanted to say "I hope he has a good rebirth" but that sounded frivolous.
 
people do go through bags before they let you into festival sites, here. I think that's more looking for glass bottles, than bombs, though
 
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@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No, not as extensive as in aeroports. But the research that goes into making trains safe, the electronic warning systems, etc., are pretty extensive still.
 
@cc LOL, you are still at that
 
10:50 PM
@JasperLoy Yeah.
 
@Cerberus good that he will be well remembered
 
@MattЭллен Yes, I have seen that.
 
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@JasperLoy nah just got back :d
 
@MattЭллен I've seen that too. They're looking for contraband: stuff that you're not allowed to bring inside because you're supposed to buy it once you're in.
 
He will be. He was among the 100 anti-AIDS activists who were headed for the big conference.
 
10:51 PM
@Cerberus a drop in the bucket compared to airport security.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I wonder how to protect civilian aircraft from surface-to-air missiles. And so too did Time Magazine, back in 2002.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 How do you mean?
 
@Cerberus I now wonder if the missile had to do with AIDS...
 
@JasperLoy No, it had to do with stoopidity.
 
The European Train Control System (ETCS) is a signalling, control and train protection system designed to replace the many incompatible safety systems currently used by European railways, especially on high-speed lines. ETCS requires standard trackside equipment and a standard controller within the train cab. In its final form, all lineside information is passed to the driver electronically, removing the need for lineside signals which, at high speed, could be almost impossible to see or assimilate. The need for ETCS stems from EU Directive 96/48 about the interoperability of high-spee...
@JasperLoy It didn't. It was an accident, most likely.
 
10:52 PM
@Cerberus I'm talking about security, not safety measures. Protection against attack.
 
Security is pretty broad.
Protection against accidents.
Lots of money is invested in that for trains and large events.
 
Seem to me an IUD would be rather nasty.
 
Lots of policemen at big events.
 
@Cerberus But typically nothing like what you see getting on an airplane.
 
A train has no protection against somebody sticking one of those ploders under a few ties.
That said, it couldn’t be a wee one.
 
10:56 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't know, I'll agree that aeroplanes have the strictest security.
@tchrist There are various warning systems, camerae...
 
No, commercial jets do.
 
It just strikes me as odd that the US mandates that guns must be detectable by airport security, yet nobody really cares about commuter-train security. But a terrorist could do way more harm on a train than on a plane.
 
Small craft are still an issue.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 They could?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, one thing to consider is that it is easy to kill everyone on a plane by downing it. You cannot do that on a train.
 
I confess to never having thought upon the matter.
 
10:57 PM
@tchrist Yes, exceptional circumstances like 9/11 notwithstanding. A bomb exploding on a subway train could easily kill hundreds of people.
 
I'm not so sure.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Bombs exploded on 777s too.
 
You'll probably need more than one bomb for that.
 
@Cerberus Just derail the front car or so.
 
Remembers the bombs in Atocha?
 
10:58 PM
@Cerberus Fine. But there's ZERO security. Just bring as many bombs as you need.
 
@tchrist Lots of money and time is invested in preventing that...
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Why zero?
 
@Cerberus Yes, since I used to live right by that station.
 
There are policemen, camerae...
@tchrist Oh, did you? When the bombs went off?
 
No, long before.
 

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