English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Robusto

00:34

@Cerberus It's adorable how people who talk down to other people tend to use "adorable" so adorably ironically.

Cerberus

I know, right?

It's because the skilful are not typically called "adorable".

Robusto

And because "adorable" anagrams to El Borado (the boring one, in make-believe Spanish).

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

snert

Cerberus

01:11

Hey, since when do you speak Dutch?

Mitch

Since she snerted a laugh out her nose.

@Cerberus so is it like calling an ugly baby 'precious'?

Cerberus

Haha.

Mitch

!! urban thingification

KitSox

@Mitch No definition found for thingification

Cerberus

Is that what it means?

I thought precious meant weak.

Mitch

01:14

no, it means that you can't bring yourself to lie.

Cerberus

Oh, is that what it means.

Mitch

'precious' = 'dear'

Cerberus

There's also delicate...

Mitch

!!define thingification

KitSox

@Mitch thingification The fact or process of turning something into a thing; reification.

Mitch

01:15

I knew it.

Cerberus

What don't you know?

Mitch

Let me see... how about.. no, I knew that. maybe there's... no knew that too.

Ask me something, let's see.

!!define hypostatization

KitSox

@Mitch hypostatization reification

Cerberus

...

KitSox

licks @Mitch's face

Mitch

01:26

@KitSox Yechhhh...dog breath

KitSox

I am a bot. I don't have breath.

Cerberus

You must be cheating in some way, but how...

Mitch

@KitSox If you were to be thingified, even hypostatized, your breath would be saliva-humidified dog-like.

KitSox

Sez you.

Mitch

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Q: Does the sentence sound naturally because it is grammatical or is it grammatical because it sounds naturally?

I have been thinking of this for the past couple of days. Does the sentence sound naturally because it is grammatical or is it grammatical because it sounds naturally?

Yes. Yes is the answer.

tchrist

01:34

The Turk

The Turk, also known as the Mechanical Turk or Automaton Chess Player (, "chess Turk"' ), was a fake chess-playing machine constructed in the late 18th century. From 1770 until its destruction by fire in 1854, it was exhibited by various owners as an automaton, though it was exposed in the early 1820s as an elaborate hoax. Constructed and unveiled in 1770 by Wolfgang von Kempelen (1734–1804) to impress the Empress Maria Theresa of Austria, the mechanism appeared to be able to play a strong game of chess against a human opponent, as well as perform the knight's tour, a puzzle that requir...

Mitch

@tchrist I mean the guy had to have been a pretty ggood player to sit in that box and move levers and stuff while looking at the board sort of upside down in the dark with a bunch of levers in the way.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Cerberus snert, or that goodbye from last night?

►

tchrist

►

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

snores

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 One of me faves. Who could forget "Dog Breath in the Year of the Plague"? Certainly not @Cerberus.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

01:48

Nano, nano, @JSBձոգչ

JSBձոգչ

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 yeah, i haven't written anything yet today

i'll be getting started Real Soon Now

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

It's like nanu, nanu.

You play Scrolls?

KitFox

What the hell did they do to The Hobbit?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Peter Jackson needs a summer home or something.

KitFox

Where did they leave off in the first one? I mean, they hadn't made it to Mirkwood yet?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

01:49

A Bentley.

KitFox

WTF?

Robusto

I'm getting so sick of the whole Hobbit thing. Who'd have thought that after doing such a bang-up genuflection to The Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson would proceed to fling The Hobbit into the mud and grind it underfoot?

KitFox

And Legolas? And some elf love-interest?

Robusto

Too many proceeds, I guess, for thems to ignore.

KitFox

I mean, sure, invent some interesting back story for Bard, but is that other crap necessary?

Or maybe they made Beorn into a ginger elf-woman.

tchrist

01:51

Legolas’s daddy looked kinda awesome.

Robusto

He's blowing up a Hobbit balloon, trying to be as big as TLotR, and soon it will burst.

KitFox

The elvenking? I would think so.

tchrist

Wrong fairytale, the gingerbread man is something else.

KitFox

Well. I'll still watch it. And I'll maybe like it. But. I'll. Not like liking it.

Robusto

Also notable: "The Dog Breath Variations."

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

01:52

fuzzy dice / bongos in the back

tchrist

You just made the Gould aria happen in my head.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

fuzzy dice and bongos, fuzzy dice

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 cook a bunch for me

KitFox

OK, I've got another 500 or so words before I can go to bed.

Robusto

Reach for a dictionary. There are thousands in there.

KitFox

01:53

They aren't in the right order.

Robusto

Figure out the right sort function.

KitFox

Easier just to do it manually.

JSBձոգչ

@Robusto that is an interesting approach to novel-writing

Robusto

Slacker.

KitFox

I don't have enough space for the monkeys.

JSBձոգչ

01:54

@KitFox is right, brute force is better for this search

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Space monkey!

JSBձոգչ

!!xkcd 1185

KitSox

StackSort connects to StackOverflow, searches for 'sort a list', and downloads and runs code snippets until the list is sorted.

Robusto

@JSBձոգչ One day it will happen. Computers are already writing simulacrum symphonies, no doubt they'll start churning out Danielle Steele novels—oh, wait! That's already happened!

tchrist

@KitSox clri is faster.

Robusto

01:55

@JSBձոգչ Actually, it is a novel approach to interesting writing. Not saying it's good, but it is novel.

KitFox

@KitSox I love the alt-text. Go SO!

JSBձոգչ

i like "JobInterviewQuicksort" and "PanicSort" the best

KitFox

So glad I didn't have to do that in the interview for the job I just got today.

I particularly like the //portability comment. I guffawed.

Robusto

@KitFox Yeah. You already did the PanicSort the other day. We all saw it.

KitFox

Totally did.

Robusto

01:59

It got you sorted out right enough.

KitFox

Yep.

grins

Now I have to figure out how to quit.

Nicely.

JSBձոգչ

@KitFox come to work naked and make out with all the ladies

then announce to the stunned, drooling male managers that they'll never see you again

KitFox

@JSBձոգչ There aren't any good ones anymore.

Nice ones, but not attractive sorts.

JSBձոգչ

@KitFox pussy

KitFox

Also, I have lots of bruises on my legs.

@JSBձոգչ You have some odd fantasies, my friend.

JSBձոգչ

02:00

@KitFox from children?

(and that wasn't a fantasy)

KitFox

I'm not sure. Keys in my pocket is at least one of them.

Then a barked my shin while moving some stuff.

The others, dunno.

Live hard, play hard, get bruises.

I'm not going to make my quota tonight.

Too many goddamned sentences starting with pronouns and now the whole thing has started to sound weird.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Her period was late, and there were pronouns everywhere.

Robusto

@KitFox That's the easy part.

KitFox

And my Scrivener is not behaving properly. If I try to minimize it, it goes off-screen somewhere and I can't get it back.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Not even with alt-tab?

KitFox

02:04

@Robusto It's the nicely I don't know how to do.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Alt-tab shows the outline in my monitor, but if I choose it, no window shows up.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitFox Oh dear.

KitFox

And it's got that stupid fly-out animation that makes it look like it is going onto my other monitor...which is at work, not here.

I should reboot but yawn.

Mahnax

Congrats on the new job, @Kit!

Robusto

I regret to have to state
I'm just now headed out the gate
I loved it here. You've all been great.
It isn't you. It's just my fate.

@Kit ^

That will work. Trust me.

KitFox

@Mahnax Thanks and congrats on your new program.

@Robusto makes notes

Robusto

02:07

Rebooting. I would rather nuke a process from orbit than reboot my machine.

Mahnax

@KitFox Thanks!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitFox ah. you might be able to move it with the arrow keys.

KitFox

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Oh, that's an idea. I don't know how to grab it though.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

What if you alt-tab to it first?

KitFox

But how to make the window move instead of the cursor?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

02:09

:x

So it's not showing up on your bar?

KitFox

news.cnet.com/8301-13880_3-9972393-68.html

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Nice.

JSBձոգչ

must nano now

KitFox

Alt-Spacebar-M.

Thanks, that worked.

JSBձոգչ

if you see me chatting after this, punch me

KitFox

02:12

punches @JSB

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I spend too much money. :(

KitFox

You need a sugar mama.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

waggles eyebrows

KitFox

Man, what am I going to do with all these women?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Put them in binders?

KitFox

02:24

I can't believe I didn't think of that.

But in reality, why is my protagonist climbing into a belfry at night?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

To collect bat guano?

KitFox

She's looking for a comet.

What do you call the bits that a board rests on to hold two doors closed?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

02:54

Oh, those things.

Sorry, had technical difficulties.

Also, this

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Q: To Back Off Routines

I wonder if there is an error here: link The New York Knicks owner and MSG el jefe apparently ordered the Knick City Dancers to back off their scheduled routines during New York’s embarrassing loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves on Sunday night. What does "to back off" mean here?

grammar usage

KitFox

I hope that is what you intended.

It seemed the right thing to do.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

?

turns down Iron Maiden

What should I draw?

KitFox

Nicene in the belfry looking at her comet.

She is writing in ink in secret.

Nobody writes on paper anymore.

Handwriting is obsolete.

But she knows that she can pass notes this way and no one will know.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

She could leave hobo carvings there.

KitFox

03:22

I'll think about it. Good night!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

04:37

I knew it!

@KitFox good night to you!

Gigili

06:23

Hullo

@Mitch: What does take your money and run mean?

@Mahnax Congratulations, and good luck.

EnglishMaster

09:22

Korean people are weird

There is a special day called "Pepero day", it's on October 11th. On this day, every stupid people buy a snack called "Pepero" and gift it to someone

And Pepero is a snack from a company so they are basically feeding this company with more money

=(

It's worse than Halloween

Matt Эллен

13:14

!!help xkcd

KitSox

@MattЭллен xkcd: Returns an XKCD. Call with no args for random, new for latest, or a number for a specific one.

Matt Эллен

Hiya @Kit

KitFox

Hiya.

I am just going to give my notice.

And get coffee.

brb

Matt Эллен

Have fun!

KitFox

(I'm wicked nervous.)

Matt Эллен

13:16

(It'll be fine. Just enjoy the look of pain on their faces)

KitFox

Well, this is the supervisor that I like.

Matt Эллен

oh

KitFox

!!afk Giving notice.

KitSox

@KitFox Can you pick up some milk on your way back?

Matt Эллен

get them stoned first

KitFox

13:24

Damn, he's talking to the electrician.

KitSox

@KitFox Turns out I already have milk. Oops.

KitFox

Good, because I didn't get any.

Matt Эллен

lol

KitFox

I shouldn't be drinking this coffee. I am getting heartburn.

I hate being nervous.

Matt Эллен

yeah, it sucks.

Think of somewhere you feel calm. imagine yourself there. that helps me

Johan Larsson

13:39

or try to enjoy being nervous, feeling alive

not just standard boring

Mitch

@Gigili It's mostly literal. if there's something of desire (like money), take it but don't hang around, leave right away, so they can't get it back.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 that sent me down the FZ rabbit hole. or poop shoot.

Johan Larsson

@KitFox what is the new job and congratulations

Mitch

@EnglishMaster s/Korean//

@KitFox try milk. I think Fox in Sox has some.

Matt Эллен

s//wankershim/

!!define wankershim

KitSox

@MattЭллен It means I aint got time to learn your $5 words

Mitch

13:44

you talk to your mom with that mouth?

Matt Эллен

!!wiki wankershim

KitSox

@MattЭллен The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing

Matt Эллен

hmmm

Mitch

try urban

Matt Эллен

!!google wankershim

KitSox

13:44

@MattЭллен youtube.com/watch?v=jidZCvGHdBM ; bravestwarriors.wikia.com/wiki/Wankershim ; bravestwarriors.wikia.com/wiki/Ultra_Wankershim

Mitch

!!urban wankershim

KitSox

@Mitch No definition found for wankershim

Mitch

it must not be a word then if urban doesn't have it.

Matt Эллен

Mitch

That's funny, he doesn't look Korean.

Matt Эллен

13:46

it's always been wankershim

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Q: Could someone please check this essay for me! Is there any gramma mistake?

My proudest achievement is that I could pass the exam which allowed me to study at high school. The reasons why I say so are that I could get over myself, and made everybody recognize me as a winner. When I was studying at my secondary school, I was a total loser. I skipped the class many times....

essay

whyfor the essay?

hmm, they seem to be mostly questions about writing essays

I suppose I should have guessed

KitFox

@JohanLarsson business systems analyst. Thanks!

Mitch

@MattЭллен No it's a question about fiction. the excerpt is fictional. They're asking iif the style is right for the mood they're trying to set.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Mitch ha!

Mitch

The mood being 'essay writing'

Matt Эллен

> But my english teacher said that the best essays don't religiously use pee?

the fact that this is a question speaks volumes

you're not even sure that your English teacher tells you to use pee

If your English teacher doesn't pee themselves then you probably shouldn't either.

This anti-cross-site scripting thing for XHRs is all well and good for protecting people from malicious script, but prevents me from writing a plugin for kitsox to get stuff from etymonline

KitFox

14:07

Can you use jsonp?

Matt Эллен

not that I can tell

KitFox

And the woman who is the head of the literacy program called to ask me to do something that she had asked my big boss to get done last week.

So I'm thinking I'm getting out at just the right time.

Matt Эллен

aye

Have you managed to hand in your letter of resignation?

KitFox

My supervisor said "Are you sure you want to go there, I mean, is there, uh, let's say, a possibility you would stay here?"

Matt Эллен

ah

I'm guessing you said no :D

did he try to offer you a raise, or something?

KitFox

14:10

I replied "I would be astounded if the director could make me a better offer."

Matt Эллен

:D

KitFox

@MattЭллен No, he was indirectly asking if he should suggest that the director make a counter-offer.

He doesn't have the authority to do so.

Matt Эллен

I see

KitFox

I did follow up by telling him that it wasn't just the salary, but there were opportunities for leadership and career development that just weren't possible here.

Matt Эллен

good. they should know why good people leave

I guess you'll have an exit interview when it's finalised

KitFox

14:13

Not unless I ask for one.

Matt Эллен

I see

KitFox

My supervisor started in with the "of course you're irreplaceable" and I laughed and headed him off.

I appreciated the gesture though.

I'm sure they can find an entry level coder who can do a better job than I have done.

He also said it was a shame I wouldn't be coding much anymore.

Man, he's such a nice supervisor.

Matt Эллен

do you think you'll miss the coding?

KitFox

Yes.

And I probably won't be in here as much.

But I will be writing a lot.

And SCIENCE!

Matt Эллен

@KitFox yeah, I remember you saying before

@KitFox SCIENCE!

KitFox

14:18

And then all my little hobby projects.

Matt Эллен

And new women to flirt with

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

wow, congrats Kit

KitFox

Thanks!

The dangerous part for me personally is talking to coders and scientists regularly. I am pretty sure it will cloud my judgement on appropriate boundaries.

Matt Эллен

how so?

KitFox

I get a little ... well, you know, excitable.

Mitch

14:22

what sort of science?

Matt Эллен

Mitchology.

Mitch

rockets or bowels?

KitFox

And mixing two things I really enjoy, that's going to be intoxicating.

And then the writing.

Mitch

@MattЭллен Ooh...I'm being studied!. I'm unfathomable you know.

KitFox

It's like an orgy of professional development.

Matt Эллен

14:23

writing specifications?

KitFox

Yes.

Matt Эллен

I see

Mitch

Telling people what to do?

RegDwigнt

Oh I'm stepping in on an orgy. Again.

Mitch

So embarrassing.

RegDwigнt

14:24

Well not for me.

I'm already furiously master baiting.

KitFox

►

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Sure it is. The tea cozies haven't been all placed. And the chafing dishes aren't ready yet!

RegDwigнt

Oh yeah, Candace, give to me that Candace.

KitFox

hee hee hee hee

RegDwigнt

@Mitch I don't even know what your cheffing dishes are. I overheard @Kit mentioning moist groins, though.

KitFox

14:27

Me? That was you!

RegDwigнt

Well. That's the over part.

Matt Эллен

overhearing is when you hear yourself over someone else?

RegDwigнt

I'm sorry, I wouldn't know if you asked something.

Matt Эллен

lol

KitFox

Wow, I have a lot of stuff in my personal folder.

RegDwigнt

14:30

Lots of junk in the trunk.

Matt Эллен

Lots of chocolate in the cake

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

14:44

Lots of changesets in the git repository

KitFox

Were you here when these guys helped me figure out git yesterday?

Saladin

Hey guys i want to write a stern reply to international support of abc vendor. I need revision suggestions

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox No. I should probably read it. I'm sorta new to git myself

@Saladin go ahead

Saladin

I’m once again writing this email, to get update from you regarding Qflow encoding issues. The resolution time for this severity level 2 PMR has now elapsed over a month and I’m still nowhere close to getting any tangible response from abc on this problem.

Due to this longstanding-unresolved issue, countess man-hours of SOC analysts are being wasted in painlessly trying to work around writing regex, custom rules and filters which avoids the encoding problem. Even, day to day analysis of security events coming from Qflow has now become very unpleasant experience, due to fact how very badly …

Matt Эллен

I would word the first paragraph:

I’m once again writing to get an update from you regarding Qflow encoding issues. The time to resolve this severity level 2 PMR has now been over a month and I’m still no closer to getting any tangible response from abc on this problem.

Saladin

14:53

@MattЭллен thanks

i would make that change anywhere else ...

Matt Эллен

painlessly -> painfully

KitFox

I saw that too.

Saladin

hmm

KitFox

I think he means to create a painless solution.

Saladin

gosh that was Symantec error lol

semantic*

Matt Эллен

14:55

:D

KitFox

And "countless" not "countess"

Saladin

probably word auto correction

haha

fuck man this outlook word autocorrect sucks

I'm so embarrassed but I appreciate your vocabulary checks

KitFox

... Are DVDs usually 4.7 GB? That seems tiny to me.

Matt Эллен

yes

they're not very big

KitFox

And "day-to-day" with hyphens.

Matt Эллен

14:56

only standard def

KitFox

Well, crap. How am I going to dump all this stuff then?

Matt Эллен

IIRC

get a large memory stick?

3 dvds

how much is there?

portable hdd

KitFox

I don't have those things.

scowls

sighs

Matt Эллен

Capacity 4.7 GB (single-sided, single-layer – common)
8.5–8.7 GB (single-sided, double-layer)
9.4 GB (double-sided, single-layer)
17.08 GB (double-sided, double-layer – rare)

according to wiki

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