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19:00
You could defend Guantanamo the same way.
If you say so. I don't understand what Guantanamo has to do with lawyers.
I have to go, bye.
@Cerberus don't you want to stick around and help me decide if I'm going to switch phone plans? Leave the spunky start-up for the monopolist who provides better service?
Eh I would love to do so later tonight, but I'm already 20 minutes late for a meeting!
it's okay I was just kidding.
go! run off! leave us!
19:03
Oh heh.
G'bye!
I mean, I am considering switching. But the details seem unimportant
19:14
Coffee time!
19:37
I can't believe it took me that long to think of updating the firmware.
> A lot of my clients do not naively speak English
@KitFox that's what coffee will do for you
> The non-naively English speaking clients tend to...
@RegDwigнt lol
One does not naively speak English.
(nor simply walk into Mordor)
19:42
I am a naive speaker of all languages.
(in case you missed what I was going for there)
I tried to hit it but failed just by this much.
It's OK. It happens to everyone once in a while.
Actually the full quote is even better.
> A lot of my clients do not naively speak English. Because of this, confusion has arose.
They called me the wild arose.
I been the wild aroser for many's the year.
19:47
Well, your name's Eliza Year. So.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 it's replacing part of one workflow item with another, and also breaking the expectations of the user
@RegDwigнt Dude! Don't put my personal shit in chat.
@KitFox I obfuscated your shit.
Everyone knows it's actually Elisa.
Now we have you, Eliza! Don't be surprised when we knock on your door!
Fucking hell.
19:48
@MattЭллен Okay. It's not clear from your short description why it's a problem, but I guess you know what you're doing.
Never mind, I'll just change it.
goes to SS office, stands in line
@KitFox interesting. And what do you plan to do after that?
Guess.
Fuck the Heaven?
Don't forget Purgatory.
19:49
From the heathens to the Heavens, Kit's done them all.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 it fundamentally changes how the user interacts with the same bit of software depending on which item in a list box they choose.
it also makes coding it brittle
which I hate most of all
@KitFox wait, Hitler was in the name-changing business?
I figured somebody was going to mention that.
Hey, did you hear about the FB ad? A German salon was offering 50% off a nice, romantic Krystallnacht.
I wish that were a joke.
@MattЭллен Well... I mean, there are lots of programs that work that way, where the subsequent steps in some kind of questionnaire are different depending on the earlier answers. So the use-case doesn't sound so odd to me. I guess if it's being forced into a program that doesn't support it it would be annoying.
@KitFox what, you have to pay for a Krystallnacht? it isn't free, provided by volunteers?
@KitFox yeah I did. And I'm not even on FB.
Though I parse "FB" as "Fire Brigade"
!!lego 10197
Hey, what a nice function!
!!define Krystallnacht
@MattЭллен It means I aint got time to learn your $5 words
You'd have to wiki it, probs.
!!wiki Krystallnacht
19:57
Kristallnacht (; ), also referred to as the Night of Broken Glass, or Reichskristallnacht [], Pogromnacht , and November pogrome , was a pogrom (a series of coordinated attacks) against Jews throughout Nazi Germany and parts of Austria on 9–10 November 1938, carried out by SA paramilitary forces and non-Jewish civilians. German authorities looked on without intervening. The name Kristallnacht comes from the shards of broken glass that littered the streets after Jewish-owned stores, buildings, and synagogues had their windows smashed. At least 91 Jews were killed in the attacks, and 30,00...
Yeah that's the actual 9/11.
The spa had Krystall as part of its name, so they made a slight error in judgement.
Why do you keep insisting on the Y?
That was how they spelled it.
19:59
Who "they"?
The spa what had the ad.
Perhaps they mailed you a special copy.
Maybe.
I think I read it on Huff Post, so who knows.
Well there you have it.
Krystall for men Krxstall for women
20:01
Cute.
Huff Post is worse than that ad.
Now I feel like taking my shirt off.
I used to like Huff Post.
Now they just all skanky.
Which is hot, but not informative.
Oct 30 at 12:12, by Jez
was Huffington Post always that trashy?
Oct 30 at 12:13, by Jez
i seem to remember they did some decent journalism, now it seems to be a downmarket version of OK magazine
20:02
And makes you feel kind of gross the next day.
Oct 30 at 12:16, by RegDwigнt
I somehow stopped reading like two years ago, and checked them out again a couple weeks ago when I heard they were expanding and launching a German site. And the difference to the HP from two years ago couldn't have been more striking. I was appalled. I'd rather read Bild.
Etc.
Ah. I see we're synchronizing our opinions again.
@KitFox Amazing.
Well, more like our facts.
That's not a fact.
20:03
It's in the transcript: it's a fact
HuffPo was about vaccine denial before it was cool.
Ouch.
I'm getting an ear massage right now from a guy who is cheesy and kind of creepy.
I feel all relaxed and weird.
But because it's progressive in its politics a lot of people don't realize that it's run by nutcases.
Good thing he can read what you post.
20:04
He can't; he's just a recording.
Oh that's not ear massage, honey, that's ear porn.
tingle porn
tongue lolls
I wish you'd give me some.
That tingle?
20:05
I bet you have some interesting vocal qualities.
How many Triforces do you need to unlock his porn?
sometimes I wish I'd spent my time learning to draw, not learning to programme
Sometimes I wish I'd spent my time learning to draw, not wishing to learn to draw.
I'd enjoy painting, I think.
Also, smoking pot and having sex with chicks with dredlocks.
Then I think that I'd be in some job drawing for other people, not myself, and it wouldn't be so different.
20:08
I can draw just fine for all my needs and purposes.
I am also probably the last generation that can actually write. Like, with a pen.
you are a whole generation?
@RegDwigнt will you ever have kids?
to yourself?
cuz if not, you're the last generation to do anything.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 as Matt points out two kids do not a generation make.
20:10
Did I mention that handwriting is a plot point in my NaNo novel?
oh? hand writing as identification?
@MattЭллен No, as a means of passing messages that aren't monitored.
ah!
then, yes, I remember you said something about that yesterday, now that you mention it
Ah, well, no attention for me then.
I've written 489 words today.
It seems like more of a struggle this year than last.
20:15
yeah. I can't seem to get the enthusiasm at the moment. maybe at the weekend
c'mon, surely you can do better than me! I'm stuck at 3000 words so far
But we had all those great ideas yesterday!
I'm not anywhere near the story I thought I was going to write.
It is some awful teen fiction right now.
I've written some words today.
I don't know what words is.
100 and 20
20:22
Woo!
I might make 10k by nightfall
well, technically that's already happened, so by bedtime
Isn't it dark al—
My character is in bed right now.
I think.
I think she's about to have a conversation about the last thing she did.
sexy
pillow talk
Nah, she's talking to her roommate.
ah! friends with benefits!
20:24
About how her skills assessment went.
And whether she should have sex with her love interest.
the benefits of discussing everyday life
Except I'm too bored to write it.
have one of them have an unexpected outburst of rage
I'm bored with the whole story.
I hate writing.
I never want to write again.
yeah, writing's for writers
20:27
pouts
when in doubt, make your characters do something stupid
Well, a drama tantrum didn't seem to help.
so she should sleep with her love interest AND her skills assessor
AND her best friend
pokes @kit
20:28
Wha-a-at?
not you, the real kit
I don't know if I have a sex scene in me today.
how about a scene about robots discussing something?
@KitFox you don't actually have to write the scene, just the aftermath
Oh. I guess she wants to practice her alpha state.
I wonder what she's going to do with that.
20:31
does her alpha state give her special powers?
It makes her think better.
But she also dissociates. Maybe I will introduce that here.
that's almost a thing? maybe?
are you having the same problem that an old writer friend of mine had? where she wrote stories about nice people who solved all of their problems by having open and honest conversations
they were terribly boring
she needed to get over her internal inhibitions and write assholes
She's well-adjusted, but that's a feature of her culture. It's boring.
(i have no idea if that's what's going on here, but your comments made me think of it)
@JSBձոգչ haha, that's how my story started out. opening scene, a trade negotiation that goes smoothly. I was writing the reaction to the scene and I realized WTF? booooring!
20:33
But there are certain things I need to set up before she gets kidnapped and taken to the breeder farm.
so she goes dissasociative
and then gets kidnapped
Almost.
She is off having a clandestine meeting with her love interest when they are ambushed.
Because she's sneaking out, their beacons are hacked, there is no way for anyone to track them or know they are missing until morning.
well, get to the interesting part
skip the boring part and write it later
whines
my story has been nothing but drugs and murder so far
so i'm not bored with it
i recommend this approach to everyone
20:36
OK. Fine. I can do it better than you.
now has to put up or shut up
Maybe that's what I need to do: change the point of view of my story to make it more adversarial and interesting.
I want to make a snarky comment, but I don't feel like I'm being clever.
damn. I think the guy inside the library is going to call the police. that'll be such a buzz kill.
Coppers!
They'll give you enemas!
She just graffiti'd the wall in a fugue state.
20:51
I'm not sure. I don't know if the cops should be trusted, and Mr. Smith would know.
@KitFox what did she draw?
!!should the cops be trusted or not?
@KitFox the should cops be trusted
@MattЭллен That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
> The walls were covered with images and odd, made up words.
20:52
!!can kitsox be trusted
@MattЭллен But of course
I'm not sure what that means.
sounds interesting
!!can the cops be trusted?
@KitFox Doubtfully
20:52
But you just said!
hmmm
!!is kitsox consistent?
@MattЭллен Absolutely not
hahaha
Ack. User writes in 14-pt lavender comic sans.
how adorable
do they dot their i with hearts?
20:58
If she could, I'm sure she would.
with a sparkly carebear signature, just for good measure
glittery blinking hello kitty unicorn fairy
oh! the cute, cute, horror
!!refresh
@KitFox yawns
21:09
!!nuke
No, no. Wait a minute.
!!nuke
Grr.
!!refresh
@KitFox yawns
21:13
!!nuke
There.
That one is for you, @Rob.
dies
p.s. 9716 words
Damn it!
writes harder
that's it! harder!
21:16
What time is it there?
So I've got five hours to write uh...5,000 or so words.
Fuck.
copy-pastes long sections of Tolkien
Good thing she likes to read aloud from the classics.
lol
I thought I was about to write a lot of violence, but then not a lot happened
21:19
Piss on the victims!
well... not this time
> “What the fuck?” She checked the hallway and then closed the door behind her. “Did you freak out again?” She kept her voice low, but it was obvious she was angry. She pulled open Nicene’s satchel and dumped the contents on the floor. “Damn it. Damn it.”
> She scooped up Nicene’s notebook and flipped it open. “It’s one thing to have quirky little habits, and quite another to … look at this mess.” Beaks pressed her lips together. She slouched on the edge of the bed and put her head in her hands.
Weird. Switched over to Chinese input for some reason.
The director still hasn't come in to see me. I will give him eight more minutes.
it's the magic of Windows
I just realized why her dissociation is a problem.
21:23
because of the switching into Chinese?
If they find out she's defective, she'll be killed.
OK, I'm off. Later!
CU!
"Phone now for the child deception pack!"
@KitFox that would be unfortunate
21:42
Apr 1 '11 at 14:09, by Robusto
1 hour ago, by Robusto
user image
I like the simplicity of mine better.
Keerist, that was like two and a half years ago. I remember it as if it were yesterday.
Anyway, your meretricious Hello Kitty with the animated background deserves its place on the dust heap of history. My elegant, understated sparkler is timeless.
I think the sox are alseep
Hey, they won the World Series. They're entitled to a little shut-eye.
stockings without suspenders?
21:48
or garters.
it's a technological miracle
i no rite
I had it in mind to rag on the English about something, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it was.
Being so much better in every way, I imagine.
Jealousy will do that
No, not it at all.
Not even close?
21:50
But if I had to live in a big city it might be London.
Well, that's something, at least
Oh, right. I was listening to a podcast where I learned that Kaiser Wilhelm II and Tsar Nicholas II were both grandchildren of Queen Victoria, as was the then king of England. Who apparently snubbed and insulted Kaiser Bill, helping to bring about the First World War. Stupid royalty. You people have a lot to pay for.
Your king, the kaiser and the tsar were first cousins. Imagine that.
> George was a grandson of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert and the first cousin of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany.
hmmm
wikipedia makes it confusing
it says Wilhelm is the grandson of Victoria
The royals squabble and the people die. How dare you, green Matt?
it also says Wilhelm's mother's mother was the granddaughter of Victoria
@Robusto well, people gotta die someway
21:58
Circular reasoning.
Maybe he was like the Terminator and his mother's mother was Sarah Connor?
Oh! Charlotte is Wilhelm's sister, not mother. the layout of the wiki page confused me
> In foreign policy, the Queen's influence during the middle years of her reign was generally used to support peace and reconciliation. In 1864, Victoria pressed her ministers not to intervene in the Prussia-Austria-Denmark war, and her letter to the German Emperor (whose son had married her daughter) in 1875 helped to avert a second Franco-German war.
not so violent, now
23:03
@MattЭллен It's a lamp.
23:34
@Robusto Thanks for that.
!!refresh
@KitFox yawns
!!nuke
That's the one I wanted anyway.
!!define estimating
@KitFox estimating Present participle of estimate.
23:38
!!define estimate
@KitFox estimate A rough calculation or guess.
!!wiki airplane
An airplane or aeroplane (informally plane) is a powered fixed-wing aircraft that is propelled forward by thrust from a jet engine or propeller. Airplanes come in a variety of sizes, shapes, and wing configurations. The broad spectrum of uses for airplanes includes recreation, transportation of goods and people, military, and research. Most airplanes are flown by a pilot on board the aircraft, but some are designed to be remotely or computer-controlled. Etymology and usage First attested in English in the late 19th century (prior to the first sustained powered flight), the word airp...
!!nuke
23:46
!! wiki sound a fox makes
!!wiki sound a fox makes
!!dammit hurry up with my fox sound
!!define exasperated
!!refresh
@KitFox yawns
Sorry. My connection is all wonky tonight.
Anyway, I think you want youtube for that.

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