English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

user19161

9:00 PM

@Robusto Till today, I am not sure what yuppies really mean.

user19161

I always imagine them to be puppies because it rhymes.

Yuppies => YUPpies => Young Urban Professionals => douchebags in expensive cars and clothes who think they're entitled to more of everything than you are.

I have a great story about The Day I Stuck It To A Yuppie Prick In A Mercedes. Remind me to tell it to you all sometime.

user19161

Ah, most of them are quite stupid I think.

Robusto

I also have one about The Day I Stuck It To A Yuppie Prick In A BMW, but it's not quite as good.

ЯegDwight

You sure like to stick it into cars.

Robusto

9:03 PM

And why not?

ЯegDwight

Indeed.

Life is short. Might as well have fun.

user19161

Unless there is an afterlife.

Robusto

Cars never get pregnant. Or talk while you're trying to watch football.

ΜετάEd

@WillHunting Better not have fun if there is an afterlife?

Robusto

@WillHunting No afterlife. This is it.

ЯegDwight

9:04 PM

@Robusto I think there are at least seven greatest minds working on just that as we speak.

Robusto

►

Huey Lewis said it. It must be true.

ΜετάEd

@WillHunting Even the orthodox Christian position is better not be selfish if there is an afterlife. Nothing in there about not having fun.

user19161

@ΜετάEd I know I know, I think you know what I mean too.

Robusto

When it comes time for me to shuffle off this mortal coil, I won't look back and regret all the times I made fun of pineapples in ELU chat. I'll only regret the things I held back — which were damned few and far between, as you'll attest.

Mitch

@WillHunting hey.

@Robusto Hey, I heard you have a story about some guy in a car. What happened?

user19161

9:06 PM

@Robusto You can call me pineapple all you want, I'm lovin' it!

ΜετάEd

@WillHunting I think people misunderstand one another about half the time, to a smaller or larger extent. So I doubt I know what you mean.

user19161

@ΜετάEd Ah never mind, not important.

ЯegDwight

@Robusto you sure don't hold back fine music.

Mitch

@Robusto The things held back, sometimes those are the best ones.

user19161

@Mitch I think it is time for me to let it all out and settle scores with my enemies...

Mitch

9:08 PM

Except for poop.

Don't hold back on that.

Just a life lesson.

I give that to you for free.

(the life lesson, not the poop)

(for that, you'll have to pay)

(lots)

ЯegDwight

@Mitch Jasper? Jasper will never hold back poop or telling us in excruciating detail all about his not holding back poop.

user19161

Guys, I am now trying to summon the courage to do some extremely important things...

Robusto

@Mitch Well, it was some years ago when I lived in Chicago. I got hit by a car while on my bike, which damaged me a little and the bike a lot. So the next day as I was taking the bike to be repaired, I was limping my way across the street slowly and the red light changed while I was in the crosswalk. This yuppie asshole in a Mercedes whipped around the corner and nearly ran me over, stopping inches from me. Then he honked. more after break

Mitch

Touché

@WillHunting Make sure it has nothing to do with the afterlife. We'll never know about it.

Robusto

Enraged, I slammed my hand down on his hood, at which point he reached under his seat and brandished a kind of club at me. At this point I was around by the side of his car, and when I saw he was threatening me I saw red and just took my fist and smashed the bottom of it into his passenger-side window. The window gloriously shattered, into a thousand little diamonds that sprayed over him and his leather upholstery. more after break

ЯegDwight

9:12 PM

@Robusto now that is class. You will limp but you will make sure your bike doesn't. Kudos to you.

Robusto

His mouth dropped open and at that point I knew I had the psychological advantage, so I said, "Yeah, you want some of this? Come on, motherfucker!" And he started easing off on the brake, and edging forward, me still taunting him, until he just drove off. I left the field of battle victorious and feeling like there was some justice in the world.

Mitch

@Robusto in addition to the poop advice (again free), bike helmets turn out to be, despite their coolness, totally useful. If you are over 18 you wonder why I bother telling you this (because it is obvious that helmets save lives). If under 18, you wonder why I'm even talking (because I am taking up precious oxygen). If you are 18, or a European, you've learned to smile nicely.

Mercedes or BMW? oh duh, mercedes.

user19161

@Robusto The most interesting story I heard from you.

ЯegDwight

@Robusto my jaw would drop, too, seeing how car glass only smashes like that in movies. Either you have an iron fist or Mercedes makes shit windows.

Robusto

Now, I doubt that I could smash a car window like that again the same way, but that day, at that moment, it all came together.

@ЯegDwight Try hitting a side window with a crowbar and see what happens. Windshields don't shatter, but side windows do. It's actually a safety feature.

Mitch

9:16 PM

holy crap. breaking the window was that easy?

ЯegDwight

Hm. Now I need a car. And a crowbar.

Robusto

In fact, next time you're in Manhattan, look at what's on the curb of the park side of Central Park West. It is positively paved with passenger-side window glass.

@Mitch I ain't saying it was easy, I'm saying I was so pissed I wasn't holding anything back.

Matt Эллен

@ЯegDwight I bet a tire iron would work too

Robusto

@ЯegDwight Also, if you don't want to believe me, go right ahead. But it happened just like I said it did.

ЯegDwight

@MattЭллен I only have an electic iron.

user19161

9:18 PM

@ЯegDwight eclectic

Robusto

No. All you really have is irony.

tchrist

@Mitch Twentysomething have the same attitude about geezers taking up air.

ЯegDwight

@Robusto I never said I didn't. Where do you even get that from.

user19161

@ЯegDwight or electric

Mitch

@tchrist tha's what I meant.

stupid air breathing old people.

ΜετάEd

9:19 PM

@Mitch Get off my lawn.

Robusto

Air breathes old people? Interesting. I thought they breathed air.

user19161

Get off my laundry!

Robusto

Well, turnabout's fair play.

Get off my lawn darts. You'll feel better.

Mitch

@ΜετάEd standing on your lawn, old man, I'm preventing the grass from producing enough oxygen that would allow you to say that.

user19161

@matt It is the weekend again! Are you at home?

ЯegDwight

9:22 PM

@tchrist do you have a screenshot of that? Or can you make one? Because surprise surprise, I'm getting flags to migrate the question right back to MSO.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting I am

ΜετάEd

@Mitch Tell that to my little green tank, here.

user19161

@MattЭллен Can I ask if your father happens to be a user on math SE?

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting he is not

what makes you think so?

user19161

@MattЭллен OK, because there is a guy there who has a son and everything fits.

Matt Эллен

9:23 PM

@WillHunting who is it?

user19161

@MattЭллен Ah, I guess better not to mention him explicitly!

tchrist

@ЯegDwight No, I wish. I promise to make one next time it happens.

Matt Эллен

oh, fair enough

ЯegDwight

@tchrist K thanks. I was secretly hoping you wouldn't have one handy right now, because I can't be arsed editing that question accordingly on a Friday night.

user19161

They say that doing the same thing yields the same result. But that is not quite true. I do the same steps and sometimes my installation goes through and sometimes it does not.

user19161

9:25 PM

There are many invisible factors at work.

user19161

So beware of these stupid rhetorical bullshit.

ΜετάEd

@WillHunting Invisible factors which ought to get the credit that they deserve.

ЯegDwight

Have we even had a single useful edit by Anonymous? Ever?

english.stackexchange.com/review-beta/suggested-edits/7677

user19161

Many anonymous users submitted edits I rejected cos they changed meaning too much, like what JL did to me.

user19161

JL edited for JL. Amazing!

tchrist

9:30 PM

@ЯegDwight I don't know. I don't know how to flip through all the previous anon edit suggestions -- easily.

@WillHunting No religious talk in this chat.

user19161

Anyone has any idea why my desktop makes a huge sound every other time it reads a DVD ISO image? It can't be the fan inside right?

Mitch

@ΜετάEd I have no come back for that. people with those seem so encumbered.

ΜετάEd

Heh heh heh. Now get the f——k off my lawn.

cough cough

user19161

@ΜετάEd Protip: just use fuq.

ΜετάEd

@WillHunting If I only cared to avoid automatic filtering, yes. But I like the look of the 2-em dash.

I grew up reading real books with real punctuation.

user19161

9:38 PM

@ΜετάEd I learnt fuq recently in the other room. I thanked the guy who taught me.

Robusto

@WillHunting Pro tip: Just use fuck. Say what you mean.

ΜετάEd

user19161

@carlo Hi, you have been quiet.

ЯegDwight

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Q: Reviewer Stats/Editor Stats links now point to nowhere

Linky. Screenshot: It used to be that these links would take me to a list of those people's reviews/edits. They no longer do. Both links point to /review-beta/suggested-edits/ProfileLink [sic, not a placeholder]. Same on SO (and I suppose all other sites), see for yourself e.g. here.

user19161

@ЯegDwight Linky sounds pretty gay.

tchrist

9:43 PM

@WillHunting Whatever you say, Willy.

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting In anticipation of your reading my post, I was adapting it to its audience.

user19161

@tchrist I just learnt the slang meaning of willy a few days ago.

tchrist

@WillHunting Willy and Nilly are a couple.

ЯegDwight

Free Nilly!

user19161

@tchrist Now I must look up the other word.

Mitch

9:45 PM

Whoa Nelly.

user19161

Where's Wally?

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting Nilly is German for schlong.

user19161

@ЯegDwight Amazing!

tchrist

@WillHunting Will you or nill you, you shall always be amazed.

user19161

@tchrist Yes, I am easily amazed as Robusto has observed.

tchrist

9:49 PM

Not always a bad thing.

David Wallace

This is amazing. There is a cooking show on TV with two chefs with Southern US accents. They are both saying "y'all" every 10 seconds or so. It's hysterical. Do people actually talk that way?

ЯegDwight

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Q: How to use Quartz.net with ASP.NET

I dont know how to use Quartz.dll in asp.net... Where to write the code for scheduling jobs to trigger mail every morning... Please if some body knows about it plz help me... EDIT: I found this HOW TO use Quartz.NET in PRO way? to be really useful.

asp.net quartz-scheduler quartz.net

user19161

@DavidWallace Yes, aedia likes to use y'all.

David Wallace

"Look at those beautiful potatoes y'all."

ЯegDwight

37 upvotes, 28 stars, 14k views, 3 years — and this is the shape they leave the question in? "I dont know how to use Quartz.dll in asp.net... Please if some body knows about it plz help me..."? For shame.

David Wallace

9:51 PM

"And y'all always want to remember y'all .... "

Mitch

@DavidWallace um... yeah. But doing it repeatedly is a bit over the top.

David Wallace

"I'm going to chop the spinach y'all ... "

tchrist

@WillHunting nill /nɪl/, v. I. intr. To be unwilling, not to will. ... 4. In the phrases nill he, will he; nilling, willing, etc. (Cf. will v.) In these and other cases where will and nill are contrasted, the former usually precedes: for examples see will v.

user19161

@tchrist I actually did not think it is a real word.

Mitch

@DavidWallace sounds like they're trying real hard to sound 'authentically' Southern.

Could be undercover.

tchrist

9:53 PM

@ЯegDwight body care'z bout spelling u know -- they be programzerz not righters.

@WillHunting So I surmised.

Mitch

ask them to count to ten on their fingers. That'll be the true test.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist they could have at least closed it. Which it belongs.

David Wallace

OK, the show seems to be called "Paula's best dishes". It's a middle-aged man and an oldish woman who might be his mother. She called him "son", but I don't know whether it was just an affectionate form of address. Research ensues.

Mitch

@DavidWallace Gah! of course she uses that all the time.

user19161

Some programmers ask very simple questions on math. I wonder if it is possible to know so little math and do programming at the same time.

David Wallace

9:54 PM

Paula Deen, and, umm ...

tchrist

@ЯegDwight Has two deleta: this at 0 deleted by BoltClock♦ Mar 30 at 14:23, this at -1 deleted by Bill the Lizard♦ Jan 29 '11 at 13:34.

David Wallace

and I'm the 1000000th visitor this week.

Mitch

Paula Dean is known for being Texan, a cooking show person with dishes that'll clog your arteries, and....

recently coming out that she was diagnsed with diabetes.

tchrist

@WillHunting Grep LotR.

Mitch

Questionable ironic hilarity ensues.

@DavidWallace Don't tell me...everybody is a bit 'roundish' on the show.

David Wallace

9:56 PM

OK, I have never seen her before. Or heard her, obviously.

tchrist

@ЯegDwight It's going to take bonus delete votes to banish.

David Wallace

@Mitch Yeah, they are.

Robusto

@Mitch All ironic hilarity is questionable. If it ain't questionable, it ain't ironic.

Mitch

Yeah she's authentic, but trying tosound authentic.

David Wallace

Ah yes, he just called her "Mama".

Mitch

9:57 PM

@Robusto well it's a Schadenfreude where the object needs medical attention.

tchrist

@Rob If you close Reg's question, we can start it down the road to oblivion.

Mitch

Son might be a term of endearment but Mama ain't.

@tchrist what about the road to 'Reversal'?

David Wallace

The producer must have talked to them during the break. Nobody has said "y'all" for about two minutes.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist actually the history says it was singlehandedly closed by CasperOne as NC, then reopened shortly thereafter, by himself. Smells of a shitstorm on meta I've missed.

Robusto

@Mitch Yo mama ain't.

And Yo Yo Ma ain't either.

Mitch

9:58 PM

@DavidWallace yeah, if you use up your quota, you have to report to the 'committee'

David Wallace

"We're going to let these freeze for about three hours y'all"

tchrist

@ЯegDwight I may remember that one. Haven't searched. As I said, he gets kicked around there.

David Wallace

"If they're frozen real hard y'all, you can run these under warm water"

Mitch

@DavidWallace shit, nobody talks like that, off of TV.

tchrist

@ЯegDwight No delete votes during all that time? Sigh.

Or maybe I can't see them while it is open.

ЯegDwight

10:00 PM

Not sure individual delete votes show up in the history.

Only if it was actually deleted.

Mitch

I bet someone said "oh I just love the way you talk, all the 'y'all's and 'reckon's and 'Ah do decleah's"

and she believed them.

tchrist

Well, if someone would finish the bugger off, then I could look.

David Wallace

Oh thank goodness; a new programme has started. This chef has a lovely Welsh accent.

Robusto

British programs are always begging to be programmed. "Program me," they say. Why is that?

I say in response, "You're already a program. Deal with it."

tchrist

What the heck? I can't search meta with google? Tried site:meta.stackexchange.com and anything, and it give nada.

Robusto

10:04 PM

What a meta-disappointment.

ЯegDwight

Oh FFS.

That's not what I typed.

Robusto

Yes, that is the site in question.

ЯegDwight

I typed meta.stackOVERFLOW.com

Robusto

Uh-huh.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist.

tchrist

10:04 PM

Duh.

Thanks.

Mitch

@DavidWallace Oh my God. Do they actually -talk- like that? like marbles in their mouths.

Robusto

Try typing meta.stackUNDERTOW.com.

ЯegDwight

@Robusto I tried trying, but then I failed.

tchrist

I don't think they actually have discussed the close/reopen: site:http://meta.stackoverflow.com How to use Quartz.net with ASP.NET

Mitch

@ЯegDwight stop trying not to try.

ЯegDwight

10:06 PM

I tried stopping but then I stopped.

tchrist

Ok, enough of this. I'm relocating. See ya in like 90m.

ЯegDwight

Fine. Be like there.

David Wallace

@Mitch Well, obviously.

How could anyone not like Welsh accents?

Robusto

You'd have to hate Richard Burton.

ЯegDwight

@DavidWallace 1. take a Welsh accent. 2. try not liking it 3. succeed 4. profit!

David Wallace

10:09 PM

@Robusto I'll let you know when he has a cooking show

Jez

for me, Scottish accents generally come across as unattractive

David Wallace

Oh, but she just used the word "kiwi" to mean the fruit. Big black mark.

and said "equally as happy" when she meant "equally happy."

Jez

Kiwi is a fruit

ЯegDwight

Robusto

Sep 14 at 2:25, by Robusto

Kiwi (shoe polish)

Kiwi is the brand name of a shoe polish, first made in Australia in 1906 and sold in almost 180 countries. Previously owned by the Sara Lee Corporation since 1984, it was sold in 2011 to SC Johnson. It is the dominant shoe polish in some countries, including the United Kingdom and the United States, where it has about two-thirds of the market. The polish was developed in Australia by William Ramsay who named it Kiwi after the flightless bird endemic to New Zealand, the home country of his wife, Annie Elizabeth Meek Ramsay. Its success in Australia expanded overseas when it was adopted...

So they make shoe polish out of bird fruit? I'm confused.

ЯegDwight

10:14 PM

The Polish will turn anything into a shoe.

Robusto

@Cerberus You actually use shoe polish?

@ЯegDwight Das ist Polnisches Wirtschaft, oder?

ЯegDwight

Tak.

(All things ending in -schaft are feminine, BTW. With the obvious exception of Schaft, "shaft".)

David Wallace

Schaft doesn't end in schaft.

Jez

Tak is "thanks" in Danish.

ЯegDwight

@DavidWallace Touschäft.

David Wallace

10:18 PM

"Make sure your cucumbers are sliced nice and thinly." - That can't be grammatical can it?

Robusto

> I just wish once someone would call me "Sir" without adding, "you're making a scene." — Homer Simpson

@DavidWallace Nice and thin or nicely and thinly?

ЯegDwight

She means Nice the city.

David Wallace

She pronounced it like nice, not like Nice.

ЯegDwight

Nice

Nice (, ; Niçard [classical norm] or Nissa [nonstandard], or Nizza Marittima, , Latin: Nicaea) is the fifth most populous city in France, after Paris, Marseille, Lyon and Toulouse, with a population of 348,721 within its administrative limits on a land area of . The urban area of Nice extends beyond the administrative city limits with a population of about 1 million on an area of . Located on the south east coast of France on the Mediterranean Sea, Nice is the second-largest French city on the Mediterranean coast after Marseille. The city is called Nice la Belle (Nissa La Bella in N...

Robusto

I thought Nice was only So-So.

David Wallace

10:20 PM

I could live with "nicely and thin".

She's going to slice them nicely, and make thin slices.

ЯegDwight

@DavidWallace nobody likes to live with hideous and fat.

Robusto

The twins will not mind.

David Wallace

I don't think you can slice something nice, or slice it thinly.

Jez

@DavidWallace you're being real pedantic

ЯegDwight

@DavidWallace what about quick and thinly?

David Wallace

10:24 PM

Hmm, I think "quick" can sometimes be an adverb.

ЯegDwight

That's why I'm asking.

David Wallace

Like "kiss me, quick"

Matt Эллен

It can sometimes be a noun

"Kiss my quick"

David Wallace

But I don't know how to do anything thinly.

simchona

@DavidWallace To thinly go where no man has gone before

David Wallace

10:24 PM

I should check the OED for examples of the use of thinly. Because I frankly can't think of one.

Matt Эллен

people smile thinly

ЯegDwight

To thinly go where no man has gone before.

David Wallace

@MattЭллен Ooh, good point.

Matt Эллен

ta :D

ЯegDwight

Oh crap!

Jinx!!!!

Jinx jinx jinx!

David Wallace

10:25 PM

hahaha!

Mahnax

@DavidWallace The tomatoes were sliced thinly?

David Wallace

The tomatoes were sliced thin.

Hmm, finely chopped onion.

Thinly sliced potatoes.

Maybe I'm wrong.

Mahnax

@DavidWallace Sounds odd to me.

David Wallace

But it qualifies the end product - the tomatoes; not the process of slicing. So it has to be an adjective, not an adverb, right?

ЯegDwight

My tomatoes are sliced more thinly than Jane.

David Wallace

10:28 PM

I have a hat that's the same as a tomato.

Jon Purdy

@DavidWallace Slicing thinly makes for thin slices.

Matt Эллен

@ЯegDwight more thinly to? that doesn't work for me

David Wallace

10 mins ago, by David Wallace

"Make sure your cucumbers are sliced nice and thinly." - That can't be grammatical can it?

OK, maybe it is grammatical.

Matt Эллен

anyway. you're all dirty stop outs. Good night!

Mahnax

Night!

David Wallace

10:30 PM

Night, Matt.

ЯegDwight

@MattЭллен oh, that is your beef with that sentence?

David Wallace

Is that your beef with my cucumbers?

ЯegDwight

You can have my beef when you take if from my cold dead hand.

Jez

i'll take whether from your hand

Jon Purdy

I'll take unless.

ЯegDwight

11:00 PM

I'll take my leave for today.

Mahnax

I'll take 19th century lit, for $800, please.

ЯegDwight

I suggest that we should not link to stackoverflow.com/a/1732454/876211 in cases like this. The only people who understand it are the people who already understand why parsing HTML with regexes is suboptimal. For a novice, it is meaningless. I could use some help adding content to htmlparsing.com where we can explain to novices in terms they understand why they shouldn't use regexes for HTML parsing. I've already got a lot of counterexamples: htmlparsing.com/regexes.html — Andy Lester 8 hours ago

Hear hear! @tchrist.

David Wallace

Who wants to link to an answer with 27 downvotes anyway?

tchrist

11:46 PM

Back.

tchrist

11:56 PM

Yee hah!

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