English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

12:00 PM

I almost only ever looked at questions in the perl, regex, or unicode categories. Occasionally general unix or shell stuff.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist sometimes I will edit and downvote. The question looks fine afterwards, but the OP just doesn't deserve reputation for the kind of garbage he initially posted.

tchrist

I wish they wouldn’t do this:

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A: Regex for pulling data out of quotes?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/171480/regex-grabbing-values-between-quotation-marks Specifically these answers: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/171480/regex-grabbing-values-between-quotation-marks#171499 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/171480/regex-grabbing-values-between-quotation-ma...

And he has 16k reps.

ЯegDwight

Short meeting. BRB

tchrist

see ya

Shyam K

The recent starred chats in ELU have been about religion? why all the fuss about it?

ЯegDwight

12:06 PM

Some controversy yesterday.

People got flagged and got suspended.

John Junior

who?

Shyam K

To each his own... that is my view on religion...

tchrist

Suspended in chat?

Or on main?

I cast no flags in chat.

Shyam K

@ЯegDwight yeah... who got suspended/flagged?

tchrist

But Jez and David were going at it fiercely. I put wagers down on how many minutes till the first flag.

John Junior

12:08 PM

and I took the pass line

tchrist

Oh gosh, a moderator got Not-An-Answer flagged, although he wasn't a mod then:

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A: What is your demand for a working software development environment?

Already plenty of discussion: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/work-environment http://stackoverflow.com/questions/54495/demanding-better-work-environments-how-to-say-it-in-a-polite-way http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/ergonomics

And here JA gets the same:

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A: How to detect duplicate text with some fuzzyness

I think you'd have to use classic line-based differencing algorithms: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/236031/how-to-realize-a-diff-function http://stackoverflow.com/questions/145607/text-difference-algorithm http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3144/best-diff-algorithm

Somebody out there really dislikes link-only answers.

@ShyamK He’s not really supposed to talk about that stuff.

Shyam K

aah the red dino... got 7 stars on Davids reply...

@tchrist oh... sorry my bad for asking...

ЯegDwight

@tchrist that was after the actual controversy.

John Junior

my bad too

tchrist

Oh. I must have missed the real one. Probably thankfully.

Everybody loves waiwai's um monogram.

John Junior

12:12 PM

Look at the 7 starred comment.

Shyam K

hmm... maybe I ought to read further back if I wanna know more... but... to hell with it...

ЯegDwight

@tchrist Well the real one was just a single message that got deleted, which autotriggered the suspension.

tchrist

Oh, just one of those.

Shyam K

Do the flagged messages get auto-deleted? or does a mod do it?

tchrist

They can be auto-deleted and auto-suspended with enough flags.

I forget the precise rules. It doesn’t happen here all that super-often.

Except for Rob. :)

Shyam K

12:15 PM

^not necessarily...

tchrist

I’m putting a trace on the JA flag. I want to see what they do with it.

Shyam K

JA? Justice Alliance?

tchrist

Jeff Atwood.

The thing is, some mods agree that just-link answers aren’t, and some do not.

With 15 mods, it’s the luck of the draw.

Shyam K

how'd you know if your message is flagged? do you get a notification of some sort?

tchrist

I want to see if they treat them differently depending on whose answer it is.

@ShyamK No, you don’t.

You can always look at the list of things you have yourself flagged. I just get to look at a partial pending flag queue. I wouldn’t be allowed to see things that I wrote which others have, or had, flags against.

And except for your own, only mods can see old flags.

Meaning, ones that have been resolved.

Shyam K

12:20 PM

are you talking about flagging in the chat? or flagging in general... comments and stupid questions too?

tchrist

I am talking about general, not chat.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist too hot for me. I am too dumb to assess whether or not that's an answer.

Shyam K

oh okay...

tchrist

@ЯegDwight That was my decision, too. I just want to see what happens to the existing flag. I’m not brave enough to cast my own.

@ShyamK I seldom see chat flags because they get handled so quickly.

Shyam K

but how do you see them? you aren't a mod... or are you?

tchrist

12:23 PM

@ShyamK reps

Shyam K

was gonna ask that^ next.. but he already said that he forgot the precise rules... so I dropped it

John Junior

so will I

tchrist

I think it takes either 6 user flags on the same posting, or a mod-confirmation on one of them.

BUt I don’t know for sure.

Why do you keep removing things?

ЯegDwight

What's with John not chatting? I don't understand.

Jinx.

You don't need the chat to not chat. :P

Shyam K

~~you can strike through if you want though~~ or not

John Junior

12:28 PM

~~OK---I'll---try---that~~

Is that better?

Shyam K

Ever noticed that you can continue to edit a message using the up arrow(for some time) even after deleting it? although the message remains deleted...

ЯegDwight

For two minutes.

And you can't undelete.

John Junior

than this
$\Huge\text{(removed)}$

Shyam K

@ЯegDwight yes... can't undelete.. but you can go on re-editing with no effect

John Junior

Hey, Chatjax works in here too :-D

Anybody want the link?

ЯegDwight

12:33 PM

in Mathematics, Aug 28 at 1:10, by robjohn

@PantelisSopasakis: do you have ChatJax installed?

Shyam K

@JohnJunior what is Chatjax?

tchrist

@ЯegDwight What’s a good set of Protection guidelines? Some number of deleted junk answers? Or just low-quality junk answers? What if there is no Accepted yet?

ЯegDwight

@ShyamK A thing that eats your resources.

@Fum popular questions that are one step short of bikeshedding are obvious candidates, yes. However, less popular questions that do have a definite answer probably account for just as many protects. If an elaborate answer has been sitting accepted for two years, and someone new comes along and posts a half-assed one-liner that adds nothing except typos and lols, and the question gets bumped, and someone else sees it and posts yet another pointless one-liner — we don't really need that. And then of course there are questions about offensive words we protect preemptively as soon as we see them. — ЯegDwight 17 hours ago

John Junior

@ShyamK Click the link.

tchrist

Ok, thanks.

ЯegDwight

12:35 PM

It's a judgment call anyway. And if you get it wrong it is reversible. And if you keep getting it wrong you'll likely hear from a mod. So.

Shyam K

~~what link?~~ saw it

ЯegDwight

3 mins ago, by ЯegDwight

in Mathematics, Aug 28 at 1:10, by robjohn

@PantelisSopasakis: do you have ChatJax installed?

John Junior

math.ucla.edu/~robjohn/math/mathjax.html

ЯegDwight

Or that.

Shyam K

what would happen on clicking? I ain't jumping in blind

ЯegDwight

12:38 PM

Happen to who? When? Why do you care? Hello?

tchrist

I’ve been protecting things on SO when they draw "I have the same problem" junk-answers.

Even though I know nothing of the topic.

I don’t do it if there is no Accepted, nor usually if it is a low-rep question. Yes, judgment call.

ELU is much more carefully groomed.

ЯegDwight

@ShyamK you can download a thingy for this chat that converts TeX syntax to nice-looking formulas.

tchrist

Then again, it may need to be: every speaker of English has an opinion about everything.

That isn’t so on SO.

ЯegDwight

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Q: What is the proper way to spell résumé?

This may have already been asked, but I couldn't find it. If so, I'm very willing to close this question. What is the proper way to spell résumé? Should it have any accents? Are the accents correct? In English, is it acceptable to omit the accents altogether?

Not this again.

Where is that question in which it was spolen with just one accent?

Oh, it was just an edit...

Well then, what Kit says.

KitFox

Ah, the second one was the one I was looking for.

I couldn't think of the word diacriticals this morning.

tchrist

12:46 PM

@KitFox There should be a diacritics tag symlinked to tag diacriticals.

That does not mean you should make one.

I means I believe there to already exist such.

ЯegDwight

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Q: Proper usage of vary and varies in these sentences

Iam getting confused between these sentences-: "Prices varies state to state" OR "Prices vary state to state" "Price varies state to state" OR "Price vary state to state" Which one is more appropriate in usage?

grammatical-number

Oh come on! I expressly told him that this question was too basic for this site.

tchrist

casperOne♦ tends to agree with the sort of things I think should be flagged, but he gets some MSO pushback against him. Still, he defends himself well.

ЯegDwight

facepalm

tchrist

@ЯegDwight See, that is a good GA example where it would be too much work to find a damned URL for it.

GA=TFB

Cerberus

Hello.

ЯegDwight

12:52 PM

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Q: Alternative word in english that expresses fear, dread, cower

I am looking for a(n alternative) word that correctly expresses the meaning of the Greek word ορρωδία which signifies the following: phobia, fear, dread, cower, cowardice, flinch, hesitate. I would like to translate a title in which the word asked for here is the title's second element and is a ...

synonyms translation greek

A question for you.

tchrist

@ЯegDwight Ahah! casperOne♦ converted not just both of Kev♦’s nonanswers into comments, but also Jeff Atwood♦♦’s. That was the too-rich-for-my-blood one.

Cerberus

@ЯegDwight Umm.

A SWR is still a SWR even when it is a translation question.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist lulz.

Cerberus

Not to mention that he is probably looking for a translation of a New Greek word.

ЯegDwight

Boring Friday meeting time! Lators.

Cerberus

12:57 PM

Bai.

ЯegDwight

@Cerberus I was just saying "hi".

Cerberus

Well, then should I post "hi" back as an answer to the question?

tchrist

1:25 PM

Hm, a “sport of terms/wit/words” used to mean a play on words, or bon mot, or pun or witticism.

1685 Stillingfl. Orig. Brit. iv. 208, ― I cannot think Learned Men write these things any otherwise, than as Sports of Wit which are intended for the diversion··of the Reader.
1725 W. Broome Notes Pope’s Odyss. ix. II. 329 ― An Author who should introduce such a sport of words upon the stage, even in the Comedy of our days, would meet with small applause.
1774 J. Bryant Mythol. II. 282 ― Clemens speaks of this Ogdoas, as the νοητος κοσμος: which is certainly a sport of terms.
1830 Sir J. Mackintosh Life More Wks. 1846 I. 423 ― Enabling the writer to call the whole a mere sport of wit.

ЯegDwight

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Q: What does the statement "Once I did bad and that I heard ever. Twice I did good and that I heard never" mean?

What does the statement Once I did bad and that I heard ever. Twice I did good and that I heard never. mean? In what situations is it meaningful?

meaning

Not sure why this is open at all.

The statement means exactly what it means, word for word.

Looks like it gets a free pass because it's oh-so-poetic.

MultiCollider strikes again.

And the OP never bothered accepting an answer.

Matt Эллен

1:49 PM

"Hi!"

ЯegDwight

We're long past the point of saying "hi". Keep up.

Matt Эллен

"Sorry."

Cerberus

Hello.

I'm leaving any minute.

For the country.

ΜετάEd

@Cerberus Try to find a dry spot.

Because the alternative is just nasty.

Cerberus

@ΜετάEd That will be under the roof.

Okay, bye people!

ΜετάEd

1:54 PM

Bye.

Cerberus

cracking sound

Matt Эллен

CU @Cerb - have fun

ЯegDwight

@ЯegDwight as Noah expresses in the above comment, there are some feeling the question is not small and requires experts' insight. In other words, the question is based on a certain grasp of the language. — Teno 4 mins ago

I feel bad for him.

He proves himself wrong with such elegance, without noticing.

Oh well.

ЯegDwight

2:31 PM

@tchrist it's reopened. And already someone has voted to close yet again.

Mitch

2:54 PM

@ЯegDwight Yes, it is 'compositional' (it is the sum of its parts. But the syntax is weird. 'that I heard ever' - that's not a standard/modern way of saying 'I heard it all the time'.

ЯegDwight

@Mitch the point is, it throws a sentence at the wall and hopes that it sticks.

Where are all the "OMG no research IM OFFENDED" comments we usually see on such questions?

Wiktionary, in point of fact, gives "always" as the very first meaning of "ever".

I'm just wondering, is all.

Actually, that's not honest; I do consider closing.

Mitch

@ЯegDwight You're right that some things get a pass on the rules for other reasons. It actually sounds like a native speaker question because a NNS wouldn't be surprised at the weird wording and would just look it up.

ЯegDwight

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Then not. Then yes again.

Again, the question doesn't say anything. It's not tagged with adverb or word-order.

Mitch

thinking gets in the way.

It's a more interesting questino than most, whatever the rules.

ЯegDwight

The answers aren't entirely useless, either.

Mitch

3:02 PM

Screw the rules, just allow interesting questions.

ЯegDwight

So I guess what I'm saying is, this is the kind of questions I'd like to see people get a Reversal badge for.

Q: −10, A: +30. Give me that, and I'll shut up.

Mind you, it's not the first question like that, either.

Always the same thing with the MultiCollider.

Mitch

@ЯegDwight that'll take some ... directed luck. it's at +7 now, 12 more downvotes to go. Edit it to be really annoying. say something about how god is involved.

ЯegDwight

It's a lost cause.

Reversal is unattainable on ELU. Period.

Questions that do get below −5 get deleted.

Even when they don't, they are all but invisible, so it's next to impossible to get any passive rep from them.

Mitch

I'm annoyed that some questions are deleted so quickly, before the OP gets a chance to edit.

(a well meaning, low rep OP)

ЯegDwight

And getting active 20+ upvotes is only doable with MC's help. Which means drive-by upvotes for the question as well.

So fogetaboutit.

@Mitch yes, that's unfortunate, and rather recent. We'll have to strike a balance.

Mitch

3:08 PM

@ЯegDwight so the strategy is to get a questino that is interesting to answer but dumb, have the answer get upvoted quickly, and then convince people that the questino is a really stupider than you think (that is the downvotes after the answer upvotes)

ЯegDwight

It's only now that we start having enough 20k users to nuke anything from orbit.

KitFox

And they're all trigger happy.

Mitch

shooting a gun you just got is fun.

KitFox

Oh truly. Which is why I suspended everyone the day I got elected.

ЯegDwight

You didn't suspend me. I'm offended! Have a flag.

Bah anonymous comments left as edits. I wish this would stop.

Mitch

3:11 PM

Can you suspend yourself as a mod?

ЯegDwight

That's the question theologists have been debating for millenia.

Even a mod can't answer it.

simchona

@Mitch Didn't Grace do it?

ЯegDwight

He surely tried.

And I must be off.

Au ruguay !

Mitch

@simchona I can't remember. Can you flag yourself? These are important questions. Is the voting/closing/suspending mechanism Turing complete?

Also, another county heard from: "but, whereas speech is heterogeneous, language, as defined, is homogeneous. So, especially nowadays, it is not speech which defines language but vice versa."

Sounds like XVH, is almost meaningful. In context, could actually be relevant.

KitFox

@Mitch Shall I try it?

Mitch

3:25 PM

Is it a failure of character to be annoyed so much by things not meaning what they say?

KitFox

I have the option to flag myself, and I bet I would auto-suspend.

Mitch

@KitFox won't that attract the flies?

Oh because your flags are strong enough to do that?

KitFox

They probably wouldn't see it because my flags are binding.

Mitch

how long do you get suspended for?

KitFox

30 minutes, I think.

Mitch

3:27 PM

also flag suspension adds to other bad things though for your 'standing', right?

KitFox

Yep.

Mitch

if it weren't for that it would be a fun experiment.

KitFox

I have the option to flag, so I probably can suspend myself that way.

I can probably do the same to the other mods. Bwa hahaha

Mitch

You can't ignore yourself. (not an option in the interface)

the interface doesn't allow flagging myself.

KitFox

Oh no? Interesting.

Let me try.

Mitch

3:30 PM

in chat that is.

or in comments

KitFox

I can at least get to the flagging warning on my own messages.

Mitch

but i can flag my answers and questions.

KitFox

For mod attention, likely.

Mitch

oh yeah I can too on the left side down arrow, but not on the roll over items on the right.

when I say 'can' I mean I see the UI element for it. I don't feel like trying it right now.

KitFox

You can jockey the system to self-refer as well.

@KitFox Like this.

Mitch

3:32 PM

@KitFox ??

KitFox

Even though it doesn't show up in the UI.

Vitaly taught me that trick.

Mitch

did you make that refer to itself?

KitFox

@Mitch I responded to myself.

How are you today?

Mitch

I don't know. How are you today?

KitFox

@KitFox Fine, thanks.

@Mitch Yes, you can, you just don't know how.

Mitch

3:34 PM

Ooh..hidden knowledge. Don't tell me. I'll give the handshake once I'm inside.

KitFox

Observe, experiment, repeat.

Mitch

It doesn't seem possible.

KitFox

@Mitch Observe what happens when you respond in the usual fashion.

Mitch

@Mitch ohhhh!

Woo hoo! well.. as far as it goes. If that's all it takes to make my day then great.

Matt Эллен

16 secs ago, by Matt Эллен

and now the respond / self quote combo!

Mitch

3:43 PM

@Mitch how about this? (wait for it)

a forward reference.

Matt Эллен

lol

KitFox

Sweet, eh?

Do you feel like a wizard now?

Mitch

POWER

Just one more cup of coffee... IN-EFFING-VINCIBLE

except coffee is nasty.

@MattЭллен That makes me think that you could get an infinite loop but I don't think so.

Matt Эллен

well, we are always coming full circle. it's probably just a matter of time.

Mitch

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crap I have work to do.

48 secs ago, by Mitch

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crap I have work to do.

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crap I have work to do.

crap, time wasted. goddamn turtles.

its_me

4:30 PM

Can somebody tell what the right way to represent a sirname is? "Jason S" or "Jason S." (as in Jason Statham)?

KitFox

Usually with the period. Jason S.

Sometimes without. Jason S is OK.

Sometimes with a dash. Jason S—

its_me

Oh, hmm

But which would you suggest using?

(rather your advise)

KitFox

The first, Jason S., with a period.

It is the most common.

its_me

Thought so. Thanks! And hey, I was once told (right here in this chat room) that I could come and ask any silly or general English questions that are inappropriate for the main site. Is that really fine? or would it be a disturbance?

KitFox

It is really fine.

its_me

4:36 PM

:) Yo!

KitFox

Do you happen to go by Tisme sometimes?

its_me

No, no. Why?

I used to go by my real name before.

KitFox

It's complicated. Nevermind.

its_me

okay

ΜετάEd

5:20 PM

Time for a second cup of nice spicy tea and another coughing jag.

How are y'all?

ΜετάEd

5:34 PM

And … we're back.

tchrist

5:58 PM

@ЯegDwight Yes, and I didn't get a disputed flag -- for once.

More song lyrics. Blah.

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Q: Is "livin' in a bag" an established idiom?

I found a phrase, "livin' in a bag" in the lyrics of "The Message" song by Grandmaster Flash. The lyrics read: Standing on the front stoop, hangin' out the window Watching all the cars go by, roaring as the breezes blow Crazy lady livin' in a bag Eating out of garbage pails, us...

meaning idioms

KitFox

6:11 PM

I'm losing my freaking mind.

tchrist

6:28 PM

@KitFox Why?

KitFox

stoopid codez

tchrist

Well, yes.

I have some of that today, too.

Same code the works fine for me doesn't work for our testers.

The problem is it is a huge forking thingamadoohitz, which is a PITA to debug.

KitFox

Well for me, it turns out that I need about five hours to see that I've bound the data twice.

Incorrectly.

tchrist

And the dummies killed their process tree and went home, which means I can't see what was wrong.

Did you really mean "bound"?

ΜετάEd

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Q: What are reading comprehesion tools that can generate or suggest plainer language?

I'm looking for ways to simplify a document for better comprehension after I have already gone through an editing process myself. It could include suggestions easier synonyms, grammar optimization (adding commas or rearranging sentences), or plain language in general. I've only found a few resour...

word-choice grammar reading language-formation

tchrist

6:40 PM

@ΜετάEd And?

KitFox

@tchrist "Binded"? I dunno. What else would I mean?

tchrist

@KitFox No, I was just trying to figure out whether you meant "found".

KitFox

Huh. That would not make sense to me.

tchrist

I don't know what sort of data binding you might be referring to. For me, it would mean binding different data to the same lexical variables in multiply cloned closures, but I suspect you don't mean it in that sense.

Or do you?

Seem esoteric, which is why I was looking for a simpler read through "found".

KitFox

I meant that I unintentionally called DataBind twice on the same control.

Matt Эллен

6:57 PM

twitter.com/binny_uk/status/248824180395614208/photo/1

@Cerberus ^^

tchrist

@KitFox Oh. Microsoft stuff.

ΜετάEd

7:20 PM

@tchrist Off topic.

user19161

8:02 PM

OMG, why did JL edit my answer so much?

user19161

Really he should just give another answer himself.

user19161

english.stackexchange.com/posts/38975/revisions

user19161

I am not complaining, but I am shocked.

user19161

As such I am rolling back to my original version.

user19161

I also commented on why I am rolling back: because there is too much difference. QED.

user19161

8:40 PM

@reg See above.

user19161

I guess you were involved too, so I thought I would ping you.

ЯegDwight

Well you didn't. Ping me.

user19161

It's so quiet in here.

user19161

So after I rolled back I got a downvote. :-(

user19161

It's OK, not a big deal.

ЯegDwight

8:42 PM

Lulz.

What's going on.

user19161

Nothing, maybe someone did not like me to roll back.

user19161

But the edit JL made was too much really.

user19161

It's not my words anymore!

ЯegDwight

I didn't realize the answer wasn't yours when I edited it. In hindsight, I should have at least wondered. What's with the double hyphens and the use of bold.

user19161

Of course, my formatting is not totally consistent though, but 90 per cent so.

tchrist

8:44 PM

It's Edit-o-Matic: A Game the Whole Family Can Play!

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting Yeah I just guess your formatting is never quite as consistent with his.

user19161

@ЯegDwight I think his looks ugly. I wonder where he gets his style from.

ЯegDwight

I did edit two or three answers of his, I should know.

Though normally I steer clear of them.

user19161

Several times he posted an answer which was quickly downvoted. I wonder why.

ЯegDwight

That I never noticed.

user19161

8:46 PM

In fact, for the person to downvote such a deep answer, the person must know quite a bit of stuff. So I think it is a troll.

tchrist

There are often things I would format differently, and more consistently, than he does, but I never bother tweaking his as I would most other people. Some folks get ticked at it. Not that I think he would. Necessarily.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist Yeah something like that.

user19161

He might be following some style somewhere in the universe, we don't know.

ЯegDwight

He's a professor. If he likes his dashes punctured, who am I to teach him otherwise.

tchrist

@WillHunting Answers with more than one paragraph, or more then three lines, often garner automatic downvotes by the gimme-gimme TL;DR people.

user19161

8:47 PM

Professor mean nothing to me though. Not talking about JL, just a general remark.

tchrist

@WillHunting It's a religious term.

user19161

I have met a number of idiotic professors as an undergrad. I wonder how they got their professorship. They come to class and give all the wrong proofs and wrong theorems.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist Hm. Not that I noticed that on ELU, I must say.

user19161

A lot of these professors are overpaid it seems. They don't care about teaching at all.

user19161

I only realized this on hindsight. I should have criticized them back then.

tchrist

8:50 PM

@WillHunting Why would they care about teaching? Their grants, tenure, and general prestige are completely unrelated to it.

@ЯegDwight It isn't so bad here.

user19161

@tchrist That is why I think the system is flawed. FLAWED!

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting I'm just saying that it's not your random passersby who doesn't know otherwise. His peculiar formatting is consistent with his peculiar formatting, and after a year of being around every day he will know that it's peculiar, so him still using it is a statement.

user19161

@ЯegDwight Yes, that is why I don't format other people's stuff. I only do it when there are other major edits.

tchrist

@WillHunting Damian Conway won tenure through the strength of his teaching, rather than through his publications and grants list. But he is on permanent leave teaching privately now.

Well, semi-permanent.

ЯegDwight

Me, I never run out of other people whose posts I can be meddling with, so.

user19161

8:52 PM

Also, a prof once told me in his words "90 per cent of research is trivial".

ЯegDwight

90 percent of anything is trivial.

90 percent of the other 10 percent is trivial.

tchrist

Please cast a Protection from Nimrods on this:

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