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user19161
1:01 PM
Please downvote all my older questions which showed no research effort as well!
 
user19161
Well, I guess I did some checking but did not show it.
 
if you delete them, then ask them again, I'll down vote them as appropriate ;)
 
I'm out of votes for today, so how about you downvote your questions yourself.
 
@JasperLoy no research effort is not enough. There should be zero context too if you want to receive downvotes
 
@Robusto D̳i̳a̳c̳r̳i̳t̳i̳c̳s̳ åre lovèly ƚittle áççents anᴆ relateð ʍarkˢ ꞇhaꞇ cỗmbīne ŵith bɐse letterførms tơ crᴂte new ɬĕtters iň most ʟᴀẗin ⅋ Ɠŕẽẽκ alφabeʦ. D̫i̫a̫c̫r̫i̫t̫i̫c̫a̫l̫ iƨ whặt wₑ ⓒall ᵖᵉᵒᵖˡᵉ ẘho Ɔomƿlaiñ̃̃ ǝbout thë̤se markinᵹs.
 
1:10 PM
And dire critics are just not very good
 
La Brea tar pits breed dire critters.
 
user19161
Anyway after today's retagging, I think I am done with ELU. QED.
 
@JasperLoy I thought you were doing that yesterday.
 
user19161
Yeah, I always say I am done but I still come to ELU, too addictive.
 
@JasperLoy you're done? that idea smells half baked to me
 
1:12 PM
Cybercrack.
 
user19161
@MattЭллен But anyway I deleted my 9 accounts finally! Now I only have the 3 I want!
 
well done
 
user19161
@tchrist Reminds me of Brad Pitt. There is a bread stall here called Bread Pitt. But I think it should be called Bread Pit.
 
I could never figure out whether Brad’s the pit you fall down into or the pit you choke on. He seems to go both ways.
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Q: How to describe the phenomenon where small people get ignored on internet

RufusI live by Internet, as both a user and a developer, this dual role gives me a chance to observe. Every time I try to ask something in communities like StackOverflow, I always pick words carefully and provide sufficient information, hoping that my questions will be answered in a short time. But e...

@Reg If ever a posting deserved warnocking, it was this one.
 
user19161
@tchrist I am amazed by FF answer.
 
user19161
1:20 PM
insignificancy alienation estrangement disaffection
 
@JasperLoy You are always charitable in your characterizations, Jasper.
 
user19161
WTF?!
 
There, that’s more like it.
 
Yay! Kit the Grey is here
 
I will save you all from the balrogs.
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1:25 PM
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A: How to describe the phenomenon where small people get ignored on internet

tchristThere is actually a specific word for this: you’ve been warnocked, because what you have here is a classic case of Warnock’s Dilemma: The problem with no response is that there are five possible interpretations: The post is correct, well-written information that needs no follow-up com...

 
She bluekid.
The days come and the days go, but the Balrog abides forever.
 
user19161
@KitFox You have been infected with the avatar-change virus as well!
 
@JasperLoy I read that as one entire thing.
"You know that dude walking down the street? he's got that new 'insignificancy alienation estrangement disaffection' disorder. Caused by smoking too much aluminum pot."
 
Me too. That's what happens when you don't use commas.
 
1:31 PM
@tchrist I'm curious to know how the OP knows that everyone else knows he's small.
 
user19161
@Mitch Yeah, they even have a mathematics disorder these days. Total crap.
 
@JasperLoy that's not innumeracy is it? Or dysnomia? or ...
 
user19161
Once they put homosexuality in, later they took it out. Complete idiots.
 
oh yeah dyscalculia
that's legitimate disorder, but on the order of disorders it is as serious as ... not being able to whistle?
 
user19161
Just a bunch of idiots inventing terms and dishing out drugs not proven to work.
 
1:33 PM
@Mitch, dude, you...you...wtf man?
You answered the same thing I did, and you're all suave about it.
 
user19161
@KitFox Now you sound like a man.
 
And you seem to think it has to do with philandering too.
 
user19161
Oh I forgot, you are a man in this chat!
 
Which it doesn't.
@JasperLoy I'm not a man in this chat.
 
user19161
looks up balrog
 
1:36 PM
@KitFox hey babe, that's how I roll.
 
But it's got nothing to do with philandering!
 
I considered modifying yours. But I thought would be weird.
 
I wouldn't have minded too much.
I don't think I'm going to get much reps out of it.
I can't believe how many people have got that wrong.
3 out of 4 answers completely wrong.
 
user19161
finally knows what a balrog is
 
I don't think it's a racist or ethnic thing. the context of the passage is all about clean living. Also, I had a feeling it was special usage of 'affinity'.
 
1:37 PM
if you call Tom Au's an answer
 
@JasperLoy and you are a better person now for it. Really, you're missing half the culture of the internet by not knowing. The other half is 42, and another half is the holy hand-grenade of Antioch. You have a lot of reading to do.
@KitFox totally agree. they are dumb. I used well founded scholarship, by doing a random ngram search and picking the first link.
 
user19161
@Mitch Well, I am already not of this world...
 
@KitFox !! got a rise out of you.
 
@Mitch You totally did.
@Mitch Clean Klan living. Which means not associating with non-whites.
 
@JasperLoy you need to dip your toes into this world, man. experience what ...well not everyone has the same tastes.
@KitFox kinda like how the Nazi's were all about social programs.
 
1:42 PM
@Mitch I'm telling you, it's about association with non-whites. It's got nothing to do with philandering.
 
@KitFox I would modify yours, except, mine has a slightly different take, that it is not at all about racism.
 
Well, the KKK isn't all about racism.
 
user19161
@Mitch There is something I should experience though. I am still a vir....
 
...us?
Weird.
...al vector?
 
@KitFox I would normally read the racism thing in there. but there is no mention and I could find anything (from my stupid google searches) that explicitly says 'affinity' has something to do with race -also-.
 
user19161
1:44 PM
I am still getting used to kit's blue and new pic.
 
> I live by Internet, as both a user and a developer, this dual role gives me a chance to observe.
Qui interrete ferit, interrete perit.
 
@Mitch It's not that affinity has to do with race per se, it is that a marriage relationship is sufficient association to preclude men who would otherwise be "pure."
 
@JasperLoy The orange–blue contrast is striking, isn’t it?
@Mitch Very well-funded indeed.
 
user19161
@tchrist Did you refresh your browser. She no longer is the fox.
 
@tchrist "As a mom and a fireman..."
 
1:45 PM
@JasperLoy Alas, no!
 
@JasperLoy I'm still a fox!
 
indeed, very much a fox
 
giggle
 
user19161
@KitFox I just realized it is still a fox.
 
user19161
A fox is always a fox. QED.
 
1:47 PM
@KitFox it's just that 'affinity'...well it only seemed to mention inlaws and step...people, not outsiders. but then I haven't looked at the full Leviticus references, where I'm sure they mention other races, same sex, animals, etc. Not one of your family KKK stories.
 
@KitFox One thing both police and firemen have in common: when they were kids, they both wanted to grow up to be firemen.
 
@KitFox And friend of Radagast, no doubt
 
@Mitch Maybe I don't understand. I read it as "A pure white man who marries into an inferior family will be considered inferior." Not outsiders.
 
@MattЭллен Any friend of The Doctor is a friend of mine.
 
@KitFox where did you read that?
 
1:49 PM
@Mitch "a married man with an affinity has no place here"
 
@tchrist I bet you say that to all the Amy Ponds
 
@KitFox oh to me that is reading -way- too much in to it.
 
@Mitch Depends on how much you know about the Klan, I guess.
 
yes, there is the cultural thing of certain white men having a thing for 'the other'.
 
@Cerberus What do you like best for Internet in Latin? rete, -is? Interrete, -is? retiaculum, -a? I need to beat my swords into internetties for my quote above. I wonder what the Finnish station that broadcasts the news in Latin uses. Or the Vatican.
 
1:51 PM
I almost used 'affinity' because that would have supported your point, which I will not allow. I will win this. And crush you, with the weight of your own failed arguments.
 
@Robusto too true. Firemen would make for great policemen. But not vice versa.
 
@Mitch But not even 'having a thing.' Purity of the race is foremost. If you find out your wife has Jewish blood, you either divorce her, or you are ostracized.
@Mitch ur funneh.
 
@KitFox you can do that? seems like a lot of trouble. you know, lawyers, screaming in-laws, separating the albums.
Like who gets the Leonard Cohen?
 
@RegDwightАΑA It’s almost painful what an acutely accurate observation that is, and why.
 
@Mitch whoever bought it.
 
1:55 PM
@tchrist I think any of those would be fine.
 
@cornbreadninja No..that won't work. If it was a present, everyone knows that presents belong to the giver on split up because presents to someone are really things one wants for onesself.
It's in the books. read up on it.
 
I don't want earings.
 
@Mitch oh yes, that one.
 
@MattЭллен earrrings
 
@tchrist you misspelled herrings.
 
1:56 PM
@MattЭллен uh..yeah you do.
 
Death by haddock.
 
Shiny red herrings.
Is there an axiomancy for that?
 
mmm...erring.
 
@tchrist The only thing is that I'm not sure whether rete etc. were used with that metaphor: the usual metaphor is that of trapping, catching.
You might also consider tela.
 
@Mitch especially not blue heart shaped ones. i've no use for such adorments
 
1:57 PM
@Mitch erring on the side of fish.
 
@Cerberus Oh yes, I like tela.
 
@MattЭллен those sound nice. I'm way into blue.
 
@tchrist I think I have seen both rete and tela used in modern Latin. On Vicipaedia or something.
 
@cornbreadninja They are, I'm sure she still looks good in them :)
 
@MattЭллен :\
 
1:59 PM
:/
 
._.
So, how bout them balrogs? They look good this year. Could go all the way.
 
@Cerberus Did you know Spanish has a common compound word with tela cloth/membrane/etc + araña spider > telaraña spiderweb? RAE has “Tela que forma la araña segregando un hilo muy tenue” for telaraña.
@cornbreadninja What do you mean balrogs? We’ve moved on to attercops now. And atterfiremen.
 
@tchrist I miss errythang.
@tchrist that would make a very good cape.
Wow, I think I have set a record for disappointing my boss today.
 
@cornbreadninja Yes, their wings looks dark and mighty.
 
Nobody knows that an attercop ( < poison + head) is a spider. Of course they were pissed they were being called poisonheads.
 
2:04 PM
@cornbreadninja What have you done?
 
@cornbreadninja that is so balrogs
 
@Cerberus things incorrectly.
 
Irreparably so?
 
@MattЭллен balrogderdash!
@Cerberus so far, never.
 
Good.
@tchrist How am I supposed to read segregando here? Secreting?
 
2:05 PM
Or that lob < OE. lobbe is also spider, so Shelob is merely a she-lob. Tolkien did that all the time; the Carrock is the carr + rock, where carr is rock.
 
see greg, see greg grando
 
@MattЭллен grando, greg, grando.
 
Etymologies like carrock are not uncommon in real language, but they are not exactly pretty.
 
@Cerberus Yes, exactly. It’s very overloaded. segregar < Del lat. segregāre 1. Separar o apartar algo de otra u otras cosas. 2. Separar y marginar a una persona o a un grupo de personas por motivos sociales, políticos o culturales. 3. Secretar, excretar, expeler. You want sense 3 here.
 
2:08 PM
I figured it out as I was typing the question.
I was thinking segregating at first, and it didn't make sense.
 
@Cerberus Not pretty because of the harshness of the velar stops, or because of the doubled-up sense, like in La Brea tarpits?
 
Like the latter. I hate PIN codes, even though I say it myself.
Don't you agree that it is ugly?
 
He also did it with the Glittering Caves of Aglarond.
 
@Cerberus yes, we should all just be more trustworthy
 
PIN number is ugly, yes.
Sometimes we use doubling for reinforcement. Reduplication.
But sometimes out of ignorance.
 
2:11 PM
@MattЭллен Just lend some money to strangers when they ask for it?
 
The British bypassed "ATM Machine" by calling it "the hole in the wall"
 
@tchrist Reduplication is morphological.
 
Not all morphemes are bound ones.
 
@MattЭллен We call it a flappentap.
A flap tap.
 
Is there a different name of what happens with La Brea tarpits?
 
2:12 PM
@Cerberus I like that word. It is pleasant
 
There’s somewhere in England with about five rerereredoubled things in a row.
 
@tchrist Does brea mean tar or something?
 
Each in another language.
@Cerberus Why, yes.
 
I would just call it a pleonastic formation or something.
 
@Cerberus just don't steal other people's things
 
2:13 PM
Stephen Fry once covered this on QI.
 
@MattЭллен Is there any way in English that a bank note can be called something resembling a "flap"?
 
@Cerberus hmmm...
not that I can think of
 
@tchrist Have you seen his series on linguistics? It was a bit disappointing.
@MattЭллен I didn't think so. But I presume the resemblance would be clear to an Englishman.
 
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A: Terms for duplicated words

RobustoIt's called RAS Syndrome (Redundant Acronym Syndrome Syndrome).

Another case of that.
 
So how would you use "hole in the wall"? "I'm going to pull some money from the hole"?
@Robusto Yes, like that.
 
2:17 PM
@Cerberus get not pull
 
I think people shouldn't use so many acronyms.
@MattЭллен Oh, too bad.
 
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A: "PIN Number" — why do we say it?

Colin FineThis is a special case of the etymological fallacy. "PIN", like almost all words in every language, has its own meaning which is divorced from its etymology (in this case, its origin as an acronym). In fact it has two related meanings, because it is still used as a stand-alone noun, closer to i...

 
@Cerberus I felt the same way. I don’t know how that happened. It’s his director and producer, perhaps. Stephen does know enough about it to pique geek interests, but he did not deliver.
 
@MattЭллен We can even say "jerk some money out of the wall".
 
@Cerberus hole in the wall, or cash machine. Yeah, not very inventive
 
2:18 PM
No, it's nice.
(The jerk metaphor is similar to English.)
 
@Cerberus That presents an image of peep shows and a floor littered with paper towels.
 
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Q: How to use "you are so lame!" or "you are so retard!" with friends?

A-letubbyI heard lots of these words from my colleagues. Definitions in Dictionary do not help me much. What I really want to know is what these words actually mean when using with friends and what situation we can use them. (A frequently used situation would be really appreciated.) Also, are they offe...

If you don't know how and when to call people retards, don't.
 
@tchrist Yeah, it was very superficial and commonplace. Very low information density, many pretty scenes of Indian children, is what I remember.
@Robusto Exactly.
 
@Cerberus The Wisconsin name for these boxes is invariably tyme machines, or tongue-cheekily, Tardises.
TYME ("Take Your Money Everywhere") is an ATM/interbank network in Wisconsin and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. It was organized in 1975 and was the first shared EFT network in the country. Residents commonly referred to ATMs as a "Tyme machine," which has resulted in confusion when Wisconsinites visiting unfamiliar areas would ask the locals where they could find a "time machine". The TYME network merged with the Pulse network in 2002, and took the Pulse brand name in 2004. The combined Pulse/TYME network includes about 81,000 ATMs and 457,000 merchant point-of-sale locations. See a...
 
Ah.
 
2:20 PM
@RegDwightАΑA Just think of the service we provide on EL&U. Telling people how to distinguish retards from other retards.
 
Americans tend to use brand names for many things where we would use generic names.
 
@RegDwightАΑA “Retard” smacks of 1970s kidspeak.
 
That's what capitalism does to a nation, I suppose.
 
@Cerberus A Dutchman decries capitalism. I am speechless.
 
@Cerberus You forgot to apply the appropriate emoticon.
 
2:22 PM
@Robusto You only need so much capitalism at home for trading abroad.
@tchrist Which is?
 
He is a man of the people; he only uses demoticons.
 
I don't do smileys, you know that.
 
@Cerberus Human slavery is forbidden by international law.
 
@Cerberus I have a broad to trade. What will you give me for her?
 
@Robusto "if you are not this retard, you must be a different retard". Then a QED for a finishing touch.
 
2:22 PM
@Robusto jinx
 
@tchrist At most it is a slinx: a slant jinx.
 
@Robusto @tchrist Hah, hah.
 
Apr 22 at 14:12, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8
@Robusto You talk like a fag and you're shits all retarded.
That wasn't exactly the 70s.
 
I bet broad is American slang? I had to look it up.
 
@Cerberus It’s from a bygone era.
 
2:24 PM
@RegDwightАΑA The hell it wasn't. You were watching old VCR tapes of The Banana Splits when you said that.
 
One doesn’t say it now.
Except so as to evoke that era.
 
Ah OK.
 
The banana splits at midnight.
 
No. The lion, not the banana, sleeps tonight.
QED
Sorry for the Token response.
It should have been a Tolkien response. They we could have got back to the important topic of flying vs. non-flying balrogs.
 
2:26 PM
> 8. A woman; spec. a prostitute. slang (orig. and chiefly U.S.).
So American.
 
@Robusto that's not N'Sync.
 
@Cerberus I think you mean "So, American" instead of "So American": the former is a conclusion, the latter a provocation.
 
@Robusto Speaking of which, it is telling that the wings of the Nazgûl are leathery, not shadowy.
 
@Cerberus Hey, balrogs aren't into that whole leather scene. They're badass enough without leather accoutrements.
 
@Robusto I do not use a comma after so conclusive like that.
@Robusto If they are, then they should do something about their falling to their death. Happened twice.
 
2:28 PM
You can't tell me a balrog couldn't walk into a leather bar in San Francisco and outclass all the posers in their motorcycle jackets and leather chaps. He would freakin' rule.
 
8. A woman; spec. a prostitute. slang (orig. and chiefly U.S.).
• 1914 Jackson & Hellyer Vocab. Criminal Slang 19 ― Broad,··A female confederate; a female companion; a woman of loose morals.
• 1915 G. Bronson-Howard God’s Man ii. ii. 131 ― Listen, broad,··you got your roasting clothes on to-day and you better take ’em off quick or I’ll slam you one in the kisser.
• 1927 Hemingway Men without Women 114 ― There were a couple of broads sitting at the next table.
• 1928 Amer. Speech III. 218 ― Broad, a plump, shapely girl; the words [sic] sometimes carries a disparaging moral significance.
 
@Cerberus Only because of human trickery.
 
Gah. I'm so annoyed by this KKK question, especially the comments. puts it down and walks away
 
@tchrist You're late!
@Robusto Then they're stupid.
@KitFox Where?
 
@Cerberus Oh yeah? Think you could outwit a balrog? A flying balrog?
@Cerberus You should consider it.
 
2:30 PM
@Cerberus “I hate formatting carp for chat,” Tom kvetched coyly.
 
@Robusto A balrog walks into a Romanian bar, and the Germans say "Hi!"
 
@Robusto Balrogs get very feisty when twitted.
 
So Feisty they can't count?
 
@Cerberus I don't know. I put it down and walked away from it.
> I put sexy in dyslexic
I'm stealing that.
 
@ΜετάEd I don’t know what sere-and-yellow “research” you might wish for.
@Robusto I said twitted, with a w.
 
2:34 PM
@tchrist I thought the w was silent.
 
@Robusto I have, but I always find it a bit jarring, event though it is where the pause is. It is exactly the same in Dutch. I only use it after en in Dutch, but never after dus or of.
@tchrist I always use screenshots in those cases.
@KitFox Wise.
 
@Cerberus RFPITA. I don’t mave Ma..x’s keystrokery.
 
@Cerberus I don't know what your aversion is to commas, especially when they help clarify meaning. That is, after all, what they were designed to do.
 
Ahh stop it! No more acronyms!
 
Reasonably Free Peace In The Americas
 
2:35 PM
@Cerberus Stop being such a PITA.
 
@Cerberus The last thing i need to do today is get into an argument with a Klan member.
 
@Robusto But marking syntax is an important way of doing so for commas.
 
@Cerberus That was for blueproofing.
 
@KitFox But he's waited his whole life for this.
 
@KitFox Funny that those people should visit a site like ours, though.
 
2:37 PM
@Cerberus Not really.
Why wouldn't they?
 
No?
 
@Cerberus But you know they do, too, right?
 
Is it not a small clan of mainly rural, uneducated people?
 
@Cerberus Not hardly. Don't know much about the KKK, do you?
 
If I did, I wouldn't be asking.
No need to tell me that.
 
2:39 PM
Tell you what? Now I'm confused.
Maybe if I get a snack, I'll understand.
 
the other day someone post on Facebook: Your rock band's name is the colour of your undies and the food you last ate. My rock band name came out as "No Chicken Sandwich"
I don't think it's a very good system
 
@KitFox Never mind. I am getting the impression that my assumption that the KKK are small and uneducated is wrong, but I don't know how or why yet.
 
@MattЭллен blue lace banana.
 
lol. Nice! Now all you need are musicians
 
> Maybe you can try to use garments or wardrobe or closet stuff
Still cracks me up.
 
2:43 PM
@MattЭллен I'll get that orange from Sesame Street that sings Carmen.
 
@Cerberus Here is a brief overview. The Klan is large and powerful. Not unlike the Masons, and the two groups are pretty related.
I imagine quite a few of our politicians are members.
 
@cornbreadninja mmmmm. orange
 
@MattЭллен Blue coffee. Huh.
 
@KitFox sounds a bit New Romantic
 
@KitFox Seriously? That is scary.
 
2:47 PM
@Cerberus Maybe now you understand why we are a little more polarized about racism and bigotry then.
 
Have we ever had a president who didn't have children?
@Cerberus Kennedy was our first Catholic president, and that was a Big Deal at the time.
 
@KitFox Any idea how many members the KKK has today?
@cornbreadninja Well, we will probably never have a catholic King either...
We haven't even had a female PM yet.
 
@Cerberus We certainly won't ever again
 
@MattЭллен Yay!
 
(the monarch, that is)
 
2:51 PM
Even though Tolkien was catholic.
 
If we elect Romney and Canada will have me, I'm moving.
 
can you imagine a Catholic as head of the Church of England?
 
Our next Queen will be catholic, I think, but she will only be a Queen Consort, not Regent.
@MattЭллен Of course not.
 
He wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve.
 
It would be anarchy!
 
2:53 PM
But I can imagine an atheist as the King of the Netherlands.
It may happen.
He won't ever publicly announce it, though.
 
@Cerberus Membership is secret, so noöne really knows.
 
Yeah, I'm not sure an atheist monarch would work here. The monarch is meant to have divine right.
 
@KitFox No estimates? Can't find anything on Wiki.
 
Uh oh. Something's gone kerwonky with my special character inputs.
 
And did you say there were links between the KKK and the Freemasons?
 
2:54 PM
@Cerberus Yes.
 
My avatar might be a little too adorable. I'm finding it distracting.
 
@KitFox That's odd. The Freemasons are seen as weird, but respectable here.
I'm for the old avatar.
 
I like the new one!
 
@Cerberus The Masons are also about proper breeding, although they are less racist generally than the KKK.
They are more into eugenics than the Klan.
The Klan is more about protecting their own.
 
2:58 PM
They are about lots of silly stuff, but they are not violent or racist here. In fact nobody with higher education is what we would consider racist here, although I and most people here would probably be considered racists in America.
 
On a vaguely related note - Boxer Beetle is a fantastic book. (it is about eugenics)
 
Is it like Dune and the Bene Gesserit?
 
The masons are like that, yes.
 

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