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2:00 PM
that won't destroy the internet, just make it difficult to use in the US
 
@MattЭллен They are already doing that, and it doesn't work. Even people in North Korea share South-Korean music like crazy, even though they could be sentenced to prison camps.
 
@Cerberus yeah, hence why it will be interesting if they try to hold onto the old model at a government/corporation level
 
The sentence is irrelevant. All that is relevant is the chance of getting caught.
 
@MattЭллен Interesting? You cannot enforce the old model while the Internet lives.
 
The numbers in Germany are falling, and people here are not sent to camps, just forced to pay a couple thousand Euro.
 
2:01 PM
@RegDwightΒВB They are just learning to use other ways.
 
@Cerberus they will try.
 
@MattЭллен They have been trying for decades.
 
I bet they get our government to fall in line too
@Cerberus so why stop now?
 
@Cerberus nah. Those who are able to use other ways already do.
Those who are forced to pay thousands of Euros are some poor old women.
 
@MattЭллен They can't even get their own Congress to fall in line: it is just the commerce department, which is manned by former RIAA agents.
@MattЭллен They won't stop until they die; but it won't work.
@RegDwightΒВB What is your position exactly?
 
2:03 PM
On what?
I think I state my position very clearly in plain English. As always.
 
HADOPI and others come up with bullshit statistics that people would be sharing fewer files, but that is nonsense.
They're just sharing it in different ways that HADOPI can't see.
 
Because you have come up with bullshit statistics to the contrary?
I for one haven't downloaded music or movies in ages.
That's the only statistics I can trust.
 
You sound like a redneck in a remote farm in Texas who only trusts his gun and his SUV.
 
I have no idea how those sound.
But I have neither a gun nor an SUV.
 
@RegDwightΒВB like this "Git offa my farm, ya fuckin' forinner! Yeehaw!" bang, bang
 
2:12 PM
Like that.
This is a great day anyway.
Our main populist right-wing party is falling apart.
 
Higgs Boson day!
 
Wilders.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well then I have no idea how an innocuous sentence such as "I haven't downloaded music in ages" got me compared to that.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 And that too!
@RegDwightΒВB It is evil. It is your duty to screw the excesses of capitalism and corruption.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 The Dog Particle!
 
2:14 PM
@Cerberus No, it is my duty to point out that they haven't found Higgs Boson.
They found something.
 
Well, it's nice anyway.
Cheer up, grumpy!
 
I am grumpy?
Wow that takes the cake.
 
@RegDwightΒВB bah! It walks like a higgs boson, quacks like a higgs boson, and weighs as much as a higgs boson
 
I am in the finest of moods, while this dog right there compares me to rednecks, and then I am grumpy.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 are you saying they found a duck?
 
So anyone here use Firefox? Ever noticed that since about version 8 it flickers sometimes and shows you a brief image of something you once had open in a different tab?
@RegDwightΒВB Yes, the Higgs duck
 
2:16 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I am using FF right now and ever since version OVER 2 it just sucks balls.
 
@RegDwightΒВB Be happy! Stop complaining!
 
So Firefox just flickered a picture of Michael Jackson at me. AT least, I think it was MJ. it was scary anyway.
 
@Cerberus I am complaining?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Hmm no?
 
Seriously, are we even in the same room?
 
2:16 PM
@RegDwightΒВB Stop it nao!
 
@RegDwightΒВB Well since you love it so much you should gay-marry it. Or switch to Chrome. I know you're chrome-curious.
 
Cerberus is mixing up his windows again.
 
@RegDwightΒВB I said stop it!
I like FF, and I think it has come a long way since 3.5.
13 is fine.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I don't get that. I do get flickering just before I watch a youtube video, but I think that to do with my video card.
 
@Cerberus wow that again, seriously? Of course it has come a long way since its very worst version ever.
 
2:17 PM
@MattЭллен It happens to me constantly, only in Firefox, and only since a relatively recent update.
 
That's like saying Obama has come a long way since Bush. Well guess what, anyone would.
 
@MattЭллен Yes, indeed. I have that too with VLC. It improves a lot when I disable my mouse-gesture program: it is in my case due to some invisible window that is drawn on the screen or something.
 
@RegDwightΒВB I dunno. Some of the other contenders were pretty awful.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 are you implying FF 13 run for President?
 
@RegDwightΒВB 3.5 was quite OK for me.
 
2:19 PM
@RegDwightΒВB Actually even Internet Explorer would make a better president than most people who want the job
 
Think positive! Sing and dance!
 
Even Internet Explorer 5.5
 
I am listening to Asereje right now.
 
I feel IE has also improved a lot.
 
@Cerberus whoosh
 
2:20 PM
@RegDwightΒВB Ouch.
 
@Cerberus make your mind up already.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Hey, what? What was that? What's happening?
 
@Cerberus It would be difficult for MS to actually make IE worse over time
 
@RegDwightΒВB All right, I'm putting it up too.
 
So my day has been spent figuring out why on the Android browser the menu for my web app appears in the wrong place, unless you scroll the page, at which point it snaps to where it should be.
The solution to my problem: don't just show the menu using normal means like $('#menu').show(). Use $('#menu').fadeIn().
W T F android guys
 
2:22 PM
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Q: A Good Question?

user23133=-.-=,.=-,.=-,.,.=-=,.=-,=-,.=-,.=-,.=-=-,.=-, "The secret was discussed on the basis of THEORETICAL grounds." "The secret was discussed based on THEORETICAL grounds." Do these mean that THEORIES were the reason for the act of discussing the secret? Or do they mean that the THEORETICA...

He's run out of email addresses.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Weird...
 
well, that's not very inventive
 
Is he spam or just crazy?
 
well, he's not selling anything
I guess he either thinks he's really funny, or he's unable to grasp human to human interactions
 
2:24 PM
@RegDwightΒВB Wow, I had never seen that video.
It is about what I would have expected.
 
So let me ask you, what kind of music do you share, living under a rock?
 
Classical?
I rarely download music anyway.
Weeks go by when I don't download anything.
 
See.
Plus classical is free for all anyway.
 
@Cerberus He's some sort of troll. He could be trying to game the system. His current MO could just be an iteration, and perhaps he's got a bunch of other puppets we've yet to detect. But that seems to elaborate to be true. I would guess he's just an idiot who wants to find a way to get free reps.
 
Nah.
Recordings are often still copyrighted.
 
2:29 PM
Sure.
 
@MattЭллен But why?
 
But no one can prevent me from playing the Moonshine sonata.
 
Not yet...
 
So wait, we switched roles?
 
Yes.
 
2:29 PM
Oh I see.
 
@Cerberus why do people cheat at computer games? Why cheat in any competition? To do better than other people without the requisite work
 
Isn't it fun?
 
Well let me get comfy in my new role.
@Cerberus why so pessimistic? You should dance and celebrate.
 
@MattЭллен But he is just reposting the same question. And not gaining any reps.
@RegDwightΒВB Oh, all right.
 
@Cerberus then I guess he's part troll, part rep whore, part crazy idiot
 
2:31 PM
@Cerberus he is too afraid to download games. All because of ACTA.
So he has to game ELU instead.
 
I am not clicking on that illegal video.
 
@RegDwightΒВB Then perhaps he should read a newspaper!
 
@Cerberus what is a newspaper?
 
@RegDwightΒВB It's all right, this one costs only 10 years in prison.
 
2:32 PM
You really live under a rock.
 
@Cerberus yeah, then he'd see that the Higgs Boson has been probably discovered!
 
Yes!
@RegDwightΒВB The largest newspaper in the world is German.
Bild.
 
It is the particle that gives all others English Grammar, right?
 
Then he'd ask why it's Higgs Boson and not Higgs Bosunder.
 
Millions of subscribers.
 
2:33 PM
lol
 
@Cerberus two square meters? Or larger still?
 
Wow, those Jews can play.
 
@RegDwightΒВB No, they just use a tiny font face to make it look bigger.
 
I got a free Bild just the other week.
 
^ Video.
This may be Mozart's best piece ever.
 
2:35 PM
Nah.
 
Brother and sister. So cute.
@RegDwightΒВB Then what?
 
I never signed an obligation to assign meaningless labels to music.
 
@RegDwightΒВB .... just meaningless labels on a Q&A site, right?
 
Look. All I'm saying. Tonic, dominant, tonic, dominant. A dominant parallel every 24 bars or so. Business as usual.
 
So...?
 
2:42 PM
Gin, tonic, gin, tonic. A whiskey chaser every bar or so
Business as usual
 
What are you favourite works of Mozart, then, if not this sonata?
 
@Cerberus "usual" is kind of the opposite of "best".
 
@MattЭллен that's more like it
 
Lighten up!
This is just casual conversation.
 
My usual is nothing but the best
 
2:44 PM
If you can usually have the best, why not?
 
I focus on all my priorities at once and give them each 110% attention, resulting in pure awesome. It's like a perpetual-awesome machine.
 
I thought that wasn't possible.
 
wow. you must be the most valued employee everywhere
 
Next thing you're going to build an A/C box around yourself.
 
@Cerberus you're thinking of perpetual motion
 
2:46 PM
@Mitch: I pimped up my script to be immune to your colour of evil.
@MattЭллен That, too.
 
do rocks have enough energy to exist forever?
isn't that like being 100% efficient?
I wonder
 
Even rock erode.
 
@Cerberus oh I dunno. Got get you some KV 271. Make sure it's a historically informed performance on period instruments, like Gardiner/British Baroque Soloists or what do I know. Then compare that to this sad game of T-D-T-D-T-D-T-D.
 
@Cerberus but if it were in a vacuum?
 
Like this?
I am listening.
@MattЭллен The Higgs bosons would have their way with them.
 
2:51 PM
Haha, not available in my country.
 
Haha aww.
 
Remind me, why are we celebrating today?
 
There's your reason to download.
 
ACTA or not, teh Internet is unusable.
@Cerberus I must have the CD somewhere.
This one.
 
I want Flatter buttons on all Youtube videos.
 
3:01 PM
did the chatroom just go down on y'all?
 
I had something awesome to say, then the chat stopped working.
 
That was Cerberus's Michael Flatley button.
 
I just want three more reputation points and then freeze them at 6666.
 
3:02 PM
Eek.
 
@Cerberus, you don't have a life, do you?
139k!
That's almost 50% more than me!
 
Neither do you, birdie.
 
Apparently I still have some 33% more life than you.
 
page 4! Woot!
 
By the way, I just read an article about what happened after the Pirate Bay was blocked in my country.
@RegDwightΒВB What do you think happened?
@MrShinyandNew安宇 You talk too little.
 
3:04 PM
I'm only near the top of page 2
 
He doesn't need to talk. It is sufficient that he post pictures of LEGO.
 
I will tell you: according to one of the major ISPs, torrent traffic increased.
 
go on then
 
I've been in the top 10 for years, but that was it. What happened? Have all other rooms died?
 
Similarly, there was no increase in revenue for Itunes after HADOPI.
 
3:06 PM
And Cerberus probably talks too much in his philosophy room.
 
I never go there any more, because it is rather dead, alas.
 
Because? Or thus?
 
Hey I need somebody to blabber at.
 
@RegDwightΒВB That's in messages. Who leads in raw bytes? :-)
 
I don't want to find out. Partily because it would be Cerberus.
 
3:08 PM
@Cerberus for philosophy? No... just argue both sides of the question at the same time
 
My messages are all like "WTF". Cerberus's messages are all like "Here are two pages on what Nietzsche had to say about Kant".
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Fun.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 your questions only have two sides? Looks like Canada is in a recession.
 
@RegDwightΒВB Cerb has three heads, he should be able to scale up to three-sided questions easily enough.
 
Oh now I understand.
Woof!
Woof-woof!
Woof? Woof!
Yeah I can see how one can get to 139k with that.
 
3:12 PM
WoofTF
 
My heads can communicate with each other silently by contracting tail muscles in morse.
 
Your heads have tails?
 
@Cerberus Wait... you communicate through the principle of anal-retentivity? That explains a lot
 
Am-not-a-lawyer-retentivity.
 
is that a category on reddit?
 
3:15 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Tail.
 
@MattЭллен Is there anything that isn't?
 
Don't project your obscenities on me.
 
@Cerberus obscenity? It's not an obscenity
 
Stop talking about it!
 
you're the one with 139K message @Cerb...
 
3:17 PM
He's the one in a supposedly liberal country.
 
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I've seen obscenities in Dutchland way worse than dogs communitating in Morse.
 
I'm not talking. And the liberals are the conservatives here.
 
I'm not talking either.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 - .-.. -.. .-.
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3:19 PM
.. / .- -- / -. --- - / - .- .-.. -.- .. -. --. / . .. - .... . .-.
 
I'm very tired.
And not even of you.
 
If you have to type that code over again because of mistakes, does that occasion reMorse?
 
@Cerberus Not even of me? How odd!
 
I know.
 
maybe you're tapped into my brain. I'm literally falling asleep at my desk
 
3:20 PM
If any two people on Stack Exchange should be tired of each other, it should be we.
 
@MattЭллен hey we aren't even at slide 4!
 
@MattЭллен sends 100V shock
@RegDwightΒВB Of 40?
 
hair frazzles
 
Is this common?
 
3:22 PM
They corrected it in the article itself.
 
I guess so.
articles do get updated
it's not the first I've seen
 
But is it common to see the participle used like that?
I can understand where it's coming from.
 
sorry, I was to tired to understand what you meant
 
That's OK.
 
@Cerberus are you asking if "are found" is common? or "have been found"?
 
3:25 PM
I couldn't tell you explicitly and ruin the experience.
 
@Cerberus the participle? the thing reads fine to me.
 
or "were found"
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 No, that is not in Frage.
 
"He who searches, does not find. But he who does not search, will be found." — One crazy Ashkenazi Jewish writer.
 
@Cerberus I would say "are found" is not
 
3:26 PM
@RegDwightΒВB ask a nazi jewish?
 
Right.
*Jew-ish.
 
@MattЭллен no. Not Ask. Ash.
 
oh! I see :D
lol
gerenal reference
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Q: English usage: peek vs peak?

utxeeeIs the following sentence correct: Have a peak at the city Roadmap. I think it should be have a peek, don't you ?

 
@RegDwightΒВB Properly speaking it's the Higgs Boatswain. They're still not sure whether they found the Boatswain or the Coxswain; more data is needed.
 
Doesn't matter. All just pearls before swain.
 
3:39 PM
ACTA before the EP.
 
acta is pearls?
 
So Hollywood must be thinking.
 
And what about EP?
 
it that a robot sex slave?
my powermore?
 
Yes, it is indee... wait, what?
 
3:41 PM
Whose partner is that?
> At times local officials have given conflicting information - that the sickness was caused by poisons, then blaming mass hysteria. The girls usually left hospital within hours. None has died.
What do you think of this?
 
Justin Bieber.
 
seems grammatically sound
 
Really?
 
You don't find none has died jarring?
 
3:42 PM
Grammatically or not, sound is the opposite of Justin Bieber.
 
given that I've argued in its favour on the main site, no :p
 
Oh hehe.
Wrong crowd, then.
Somehow it sounds off.
 
7
A: None as plural indefinite pronoun

nohatNone is commonly used as a plural. You can find many examples in the Corpus of Contemporary American English. For example, I searched for none of the [nn2] [vv0] to find examples where none refers to something in plural and then takes a plural verb. ([nn2] matches any plural common noun and [vv0]...

 
In Dutch, it has to be singular.
And yet I seem to strongly prefer plural in English, or at least in this context.
 
@Cerberus I would have written "none have died". But I'm not a cunning linguist.
 
3:44 PM
@MetaEd Yay!
 
In German, none is just countable. So none has died, or nones have died.
 
Nuns have died.
 
You mean kein?
 
This is how rumors get started.
 
Well, Gott ist tot. What would you expect nuns to do, not follow suit?
 
3:46 PM
True, that would certainly make some nunsense.
 
@Cerberus I certainly don't mean his brother abel.
 
Dutch dislikes the German keine sind so much that we add er twice to fix it! Er zijn er geen gestorven.
 
How brilliantly unsimple.
 
Why, thank you.
 
People will go to great lengths just to hate German.
 
3:47 PM
Es sind keine gestorben.
Is that correct?
 
OK.
 
mein Butter Churn ist gestohlen
 
I love how forruners hate our word er.
 
er... what?
 
3:48 PM
Trust me.
If you were forced to learn Dutch, you would hate er.
 
@Cerberus If I were forced to learn Dutch, I would hate Dutch.
 
If I was forced to eat bees, I would hate my captors
 
You misspelled raptors.
 
By an amazing coincidence which I swear I didn't notice until afterwards, all my girlfriends before I dated my wife were Dutch.
 
3:50 PM
What if the bees were fried and served in delicious honey?
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Stop it!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Canada must be boring.
 
You're coming on to me all week.
 
mmmmm, honey glazed deep fried bee
 
And where did you dig up these Dutch girls?
 
but the stings!
 
The fields of gold!
 
Fried bees do not sting.
 
@Cerberus Actually they were in two different cities too
 
But why?
 
@Cerberus why what? I didn't even notice it! There is no why
 
3:53 PM
That is the why.
 
you didn't notice you were in two different cities. man you must've been high
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Must you keep insulting the religious?
 
No, but it's fun.
 
@Cerberus Ok you've lost me
 
"There is no why", how dare you.
 
3:53 PM
Cerberus is talking with the wrong head today.
 
It is their main Life Question.
 
AAAAAAAhhhhhhhhh gotcha
no, there is no "why were they all Dutch". It is just a coincidence. It didn't happen by design.
 
Surely The One would be part of the design.
 
Well certainly someone designed them to be Dutch.
Jinx.
 
Yeah!
How could they both be Dutch otherwise?
And girls too!
 
3:55 PM
No, they evolved their dutchness.
 
Freaky.
 
@Cerberus both? there were three
 
Another French title, huh.
 
Were they duchesses, or did you refuse to recognise their titles?
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Three!?
And you say there is no Why.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 both, like none, can mean four, which in turn can refer to three. Use grammar for increase!
 
3:56 PM
shakes heads
all three
 
@Cerberus What, you think I only had two girlfriends before I got married?
@Cerberus * shakes both heads FTFY
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 What, you think we think?
And now I'm outta here.
 
I certainly wasn't expecting you to ape my number of heads.
Bye!
 
CU reg
 
why oh why did that get starred
 
3:58 PM
so we can find it more easily when your wife starts chatting here
2
 
Hahaha.
 
@MattЭллен yeah seriously
 
Wait, what does your wife looks like?
Could she be one of us?
 
She LOVES it when I discuss ex-girlfriends
 
what partner wouldn't?
 
3:59 PM
Because you never forget to tell her how much better she is?
What if you forget one time?
 

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