English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

@simchona But as mentioned the number there may not be the one used to calculate whether you get the badge or not, though it does exclude edits to your own posts. For example, Jimi has made more than 500 edits but he does not have copy editor. I suspect it counts multiple edits made to the same post as well you see.

Matt Ellen

6:07 PM

@Kit you're on 109 edits here. I'm going for the badge on SO, where I'm at 176

Kit

@MattEllen Frigga.

I guess I know what I'm doing with my weekend.

Grace Note

You do know that the users page is not accurate, aye?

Matt Ellen

Summoning pagan gods?

user19161

@GraceNote How so?

Bogdan Lataianu

2 days until ham and bacon's suspension ends

Kit

6:08 PM

@GraceNote It's just for a ballpark, so I have some idea how close I am.

Grace Note

It includes edits to your own posts, as well as pure retags.

user19161

I think I am the only person here who has not received any thwacks.

Kit

@MattEllen Frigga gives me strength.

Matt Ellen

@GraceNote I thought that was the case

@Kit I remember my most embarrassing day at secondary involved frigga

user19161

@GraceNote It has been changed to exclude edits to your own posts. Ya maybe it includes the retags.

Kit

6:09 PM

@MattEllen Do tell.

user19161

@Kit Who is Frigga?

Matt Ellen

I have strunk n white though, so I'm partly on the way

@Kit Well, it's not too bad. I was playing a card game with friends at lunch time (I think we were playing shithead) and you had to declare when you were down to your last card.

user19161

@MattEllen Strunk and white seems to be a lousy book.

Matt Ellen

@JasperLoy I meant the badge ;)

user19161

@MattEllen Yes I know...I know everything here.

Kit

6:12 PM

Frigg

Frigg (sometimes anglicized as Frigga) is a major goddess in Norse paganism, a subset of Germanic paganism. She is said to be the wife of Odin, and is the "foremost among the goddesses" and the queen of Asgard. Frigg appears primarily in Norse mythological stories as a wife and a mother. She is also described as having the power of prophecy yet she does not reveal what she knows. Frigg is described as the only one other than Odin who is permitted to sit on his high seat Hlidskjalf and look out over the universe. The English term Friday derives from the Anglo-Saxon name for Frigg, Frige. ...

Matt Ellen

@MattEllen so I was about to triumphantly declare "Last fucking card" but I noticed our form tutor was in the room, so instead I innocently said "Last frigging card!"

user19161

Frigga (Marvel Comics)

Frigga is a fictional character appearing in the Marvel Comics universe, based loosely on Frigg of Norse mythology. Publication history Frigga first appeared in Journey into Mystery #92 (May 1963), and was adapted from mythology by Stan Lee, Robert Bernstein and Joe Sinnott. The character subsequently appeared in Thor Annual #10 (1982), Thor #344 (June 1984), Marvel Graphic Novel #15 - The Raven Banner (1985), Journey Into Mystery #504-505 (December 1996-January 1997), #512-513 (September-October 1997), Thor #26 (August 2000), Loki #3 (January 2004), and ' #7&9 (August 2004-October 2004)...

Kit

@MattEllen Oh no.

Matt Ellen

@MattEllen I had no idea what the word mean, I had heard it on TV and thought it was harmless

Kit

@MattEllen Of course. Because it is harmless to a large percentage of the population.

Matt Ellen

6:14 PM

@Kit So the teacher went ballistic at me. Kept asking me if I knew what I had said, and I said I had only said "frigging", what's the big deal? The exchange was in front of my friends

who were crackingup

eventually she says "Go look it up in the library and come back and write me a letter of apology".

Man that was embarrassing.

Kit

<grin>

Did you learn your lesson?

Matt Ellen

partly

Kit

The one about how that teacher really just needs to chill the frig out?

Matt Ellen

I learned that TV swears before the watershed

user19161

She needs to ctfd.

JSBangs

6:16 PM

@MattEllen sounds like the lesson was "don't say frig in front of the teacher"

Matt Ellen

@Kit yes. that too :-D

JSBangs

next time try frack instead

Kit

That's like going off on someone for using "shoot" instead of "shit."

Matt Ellen

@JSBangs Yeah, this was before the age of that show whose name escapes me :D

JSBangs

yes, the entire purpose of the word "frig" is to not have to say "fuck"

Matt Ellen

6:17 PM

What upset her is the fact that it means masturbation

so is no less severe

in that sense

Kit

@MattEllen Well, to be fair, it means "to rub."

Matt Ellen

also that I shouted it triumphantly :D

Kit

She's the pervert that turned that into masturbation.

JSBangs

@MattEllen wait, what? this is entirely unknown to me

user19161

@MattEllen That is a good thing.

Matt Ellen

6:19 PM

@JSBangs That's what the dictionary said (some 17 years ago)

Kit

@MattEllen I think masturbating is probably less severe than fucking.

Unless you're doing it wrong.

Cerberus

@JSBangs Exactly, and hi!

Matt Ellen

@Kit yes, but you know how prudes are. Pleasure with your organs all falls under going to hell!

Cerberus

@Kit Oh, is that where it came from, really?

JSBangs

hi @Cerb. glad you missed me

Cerberus

6:21 PM

Of course.

Wow I just learnt a new thing.

JSBangs

this reminds me of the time i got in trouble for calling someone a "prick", having no idea at the time of the literal meaning. i thought it just mean "jerk"

user19161

@MattEllen It sends me to heaven.

Cerberus

Perhaps we should make a question out if that: "does frig stand for fuck or for masturbating when used as a euphemism?".

Grace Note

@JSBangs This is why I've stuck to just not using those words, or just using nonsense.

Cerberus

Or would bold be better?

Kit

6:22 PM

@JSBangs Ha ha! Of course, you know what a "jerk" is, right?

simchona

@GraceNote I'm partial to fudgemonkeys

Cerberus

@Kit Even I know that...

JSBangs

@Kit let me guess, an onanist?

user19161

@Cerberus Question gets deleted...

Cerberus

@JasperLoy No way...

Kit

6:23 PM

@JSBangs Speaking of which, I cast my seed upon the ground just yesterday. Going straight to hell, I am.

Cerberus

But it would look rather dandy on the Multicollider, don't you say?

Kit

@Cerberus From the Latin fricare, I believe. I'm not an expert.

Matt Ellen

@JSBangs The odd ting about the term onanist/onanism is that Onan didn't masturbate. He was forced to deflower a woman, but would not ejaculate inside her, essentially practising the oldest form of contraception

JSBangs

@MattEllen that interpretation is disputed. but yes, i'm familiar with the story of Onan

user19161

@MattEllen That could also lead to pregnancy.

Kit

6:24 PM

@MattEllen "Pull out and pray" :-)

JSBangs

@Kit there you go, confusing me about your gender again :)

Matt Ellen

@Kit :D

user19161

Warning: Pulling out at the last min is not safe!

RegDwight

@Kit english.stackexchange.com/questions/34081/…

Kit

@JSBangs Luckily, I'm not confused about my gender.

Cerberus

6:25 PM

@Kit Yup, and it had the same slang meaning as well.

Kit

@RegDwight ROFLMAO. That fish question links to "pull out and pray!"

@RegDwight Well, that makes me feel much better.

aedia

@simchona Fudge is also a dangerous word, though.

user19161

So many one-syllable words are dangerous...

RegDwight

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Q: What is the plural form of vagina?

I apologize for what could be construed as an inappropriate question. But as I was spell-checking an e-mail to a person, the word vaginas resulted in a grammatical error, whereas vagina didn't. What is the correct form?

user19161

The six-letter word we were trying to divine has appeared.

RegDwight

6:27 PM

Anderson Silva meets Kosmonaut. Only on ELU.

Kit

@JasperLoy Coitus interruptus is one of the most common methods of birth control and is actually quite effective at preventing pregnancy.

RegDwight

Mar 12 at 1:30, by RegDwight

Coito ergo sum.

Kit

@RegDwight LOL

@JasperLoy "Vagina" is not a curse word.

RegDwight

Are you sure? Cause I know that one site where I could ask...

Matt Ellen

@JasperLoy plural?

Kit

6:29 PM

@MattEllen Nice. high five

Matt Ellen

@Kit high five

user19161

Low ten.

user19161

@Kit I didn't know that.

Cerberus

@RegDwight *coeo

aedia

I highly recommend this article. I think "poppycock" is going to be my new favorite word.

Minced oath

A minced oath (also pseudo-profanity) is an expression based on a profanity that has been altered to reduce the objectionable characteristics of the original expression, for example, d'oh, darn or dang instead of damn; shoot or shucks instead of shit; heck instead of hell; flipping, freaking, frigging, effing, fricking, farging, frakking, fecking, or funking/phunking instead of fucking; goodness, golly, gosh, or gad instead of God; gee, geez, geeze, or jeez instead of Jesus; and crikey, criminy, or cripes instead of Christ. Many languages have these expressions. In the English language,...

RegDwight

6:31 PM

@Cerberus Stop ruining jokes, Gosh.

Mar 12 at 1:31, by Cerberus

Coito is not a finite verb.

Mar 12 at 1:31, by RegDwight

Nobody cares.

Grace Note

@aedia Criminy is a minced oath for Christ? Huh. I did not know that.

RegDwight

Mar 12 at 1:32, by Robusto

@Cerberus It's a translingual pun. It counts.

trg787

Maybe "vaginae"? Umphhhh

JSBangs

@aedia i always called those taboo deformation

Kit

Never heard "berk" before.

Cerberus

6:32 PM

@aedia I like that one too!

aedia

@JasperLoy plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/…

Kit

@JSBangs OOOHH! Sexy phrase for the dirty talk notebook! Thanks!

user19161

@aedia Well, provided one can pull out soon enough.

Cerberus

@RegDwight Haha, how you remember these things... wait, have I asked that before?

RegDwight

@Cerberus Though I must say that your current debunkal is better.

Because "Coito is not a finite verb" is kinda... stupid, really.

Kit

6:34 PM

@JasperLoy Not a good method for teenagers or inexperienced men.

RegDwight

That's not an infinitive.

user19161

@Kit Ya. Full disclosure: I am still a virgin.

RegDwight

Jul 14 at 16:01, by RegDwight

@Kit No flirting in this chat.

Cerberus

@RegDwight Stupid, or profound?

@RegDwight What? Who mentioned infinitives?

RegDwight

By saying that "coito" is not a finite verb, you say that it is a verb, but not finite.

However, "coito" is not a verb at all. It ain't even a verb form.

It's just a pun.

Kit

6:36 PM

@JasperLoy Then you should not use that method.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy Stands in front of Jasper and protects him from the hordes of voracious women.

@RegDwight It is a verb, a participle. And a pun, yes, that too.

RegDwight

Saying "coito is not a finite verb" is like saying "adenosinetriphosphate is not past tense".

Cerberus

I would no doubt concur.

Grace Note

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Q: Blank is dead. Long live Blank.

What is the history of the blank is dead. Long live blank reference? Here is an example of it being used. Location is dead. Long live Location. http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail4889.html or JavaScript is dead. Long live Javascript. http://peter.michaux.ca/articles/javascript-is-d...

jargon catch-phrases

Matt Ellen

@aedia bloody good article! I now know where gadzooks, zounds, and strewth come from. Fucking excellent :)

Kit

6:39 PM

@RegDwight It's "adenosine triphosphate."

user19161

@Kit That sounds like Krebbs cycle.

RegDwight

@Kit It's "adenosine-5'-triphosphate".

Grace Note

...aw hexes, I actually vaguely recall what ATPs are.

Mana

Oh no. Not ATPs.

Kit

@RegDwight Not always.

Grace Note

6:40 PM

@Mana Hahahahahaha

RegDwight

@Kit But today is Monday.

Mana

Noooooooooooooo god I hate everything about Biology.

Grace Note

Personally, I prefer trinitrotoluene, but that's just me.

RegDwight

Ice cream time! AFK. (Translatiion for Kit: Icecreamtime-5'!)

Grace Note

'lo, Zvensg!

user19161

6:40 PM

I prefer the antiseptic TCP.

z7sg

@GraceNote hiya!

Kit

Amongst the many things I've forgotten are the chemical compounds and catalysts in all 22 steps of the Krebs cycle.

z7sg

TCP has a very distinctive smell. Why are we discussing this???

user19161

I once memorised the structure of the 20 amino acids.

Kit

I really for real used to know that. Dr. Watters made us memorize it.

Mana

6:41 PM

:(

Grace Note

Now I'm having memories of writing all about Hemogoblins in Biology class.

Kit

It was on our final.

user19161

@z7sg Cos we mentioned abbreviations like ATP, TNT, TCP.

JSBangs

wow. usually when this room geeks out, it's on a topic that i know about or am at least vaguely interested in

Matt Ellen

@JasperLoy CFC

JSBangs

6:42 PM

right now i feel frightened and alone

Mana

I'm having memories of dissecting a rat that had already been dissected once before and was all screwed up.

user19161

@Kit Dr Watters must be from Knight Industries then.

Matt Ellen

@JSBangs It's ok. you're not alone

Mana

@JSBangs See, that's actually how I feel in here all the time.

Grace Note

@Kit I don't doubt that. Though that sounds like a painful final.

Kit

6:43 PM

@JasperLoy Dr. Watters also has no affiliation with Knight Industries.

And the Krebs cycle only has ten steps.

Mana

Even right now since my Biology knowledge started and ended with Grade 11 Bio.

Grace Note

Unless you got to draw fork lifts. I got to draw forklifts on my final exam when explaining cell respiration.

Kit

@GraceNote Must be an English major.

@Mana My undergrad degree is in Biology.

Grace Note

@Kit Not in college, in high school. In college I didn't get that liberty.

Mana

I am an undergrad. I like computers.

Matt Ellen

6:44 PM

@Mana I'm an overgraduate. I like computers

aedia

@JSBangs I had a mental breakdown at o chem and forgot everything. Now chemistry thingies scare me a bit too.

Grace Note

(Also, no, I'm not an English major. I took writing courses on all my semesters of college but it was not my focus point)

user19161

@Mana I used to hate them too, but I like them now.

Kit

I loved organic chemistry!

Grace Note

O Chem always is purported as a "Make or Break" class when I heard stories about it.

Mana

6:45 PM

Organic chemistry was my favorite part of it all actually

Kit

I had a Swede for a lab instructor. He was great.

aedia

@Kit Bio people.

user19161

@Kit Tall, dark and handsome?

JSBangs

@Kit Interesting factoid about Swedish lab instructors...

Kit

@JasperLoy Tall, blond, and old. Terrific sense of humor.

aedia

6:46 PM

@Kit You and your understanding carbon and hydrogen based thingamajiggers.

user19161

@Kit I see. Blond, like Matt.

Kit

He is the sole representative of Sweden in my brain, and thinking of him makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about Sweden.

@JasperLoy No. Platinum blond, like Max von Sydow. Kind of looked like him too, actually.

Grace Note

Thinking of Sweden makes me think of Rock Paper Scissors.

user19161

@GraceNote Why?

Grace Note

@JasperLoy It's a long and ultimately very, very boring story.

user19161

6:49 PM

@GraceNote Oh, I thought the game originated there.

Matt Ellen

@Kit and (allegedly) good cleavage.

Kit

@GraceNote Maybe so, but I think you wouldn't have mentioned it if you didn't want to tell it.

user19161

@Kit Yes, grace is dying to tell us about it.

Grace Note

@Kit Actually I said about 8 different things and revised it each time until finally settling on the least impressive statement I could make.

Kit

@MattEllen What? Huh?

Matt Ellen

6:50 PM

@GraceNote As they say in blighty: Jackanory!

Mana

Grace is dying?

Kit

@GraceNote Well done. Hats off to you.

Matt Ellen

2 days ago, by Kit

Damn titty shirt failed me.

user19161

@Mana No, but we all are.

Grace Note

I mean, if I said "Thinking of Sweden makes me think of my friend King Magnus", then it'd make all kinds of inquiries that I could not avoid answering out of hounding.

RegDwight

6:51 PM

BTW:

Matt Ellen

unless "titty" doesn't refer to your cleavage.

user19161

@mana What is the animal in your picture?

RegDwight

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Q: What is an expert?

This article made me think of what im actually supposed to think of an expert for ... When can/should i introduce somebody as an expert? Definitions in dictionaries dont show much accordance to me. Professional experience, academic grades, should you use it only for academics at all? Your answe...

meaning-in-context meanings

0

Q: When EXACTLY can/do you start calling one an "Experte"

Im pretty much annoyed by this term and its imho mis-use for many pseudo-experts. Experts for terrorism, amok, climate, babysitting... you probably all know this phenomenon of people designated in german TV interviews etc. as so-called experts. So there are different levels when everyone of us s...

connotation phrase-history euphemism semantic-change sprachregelung

Cross-site peeving FTL.

Mana

@JasperLoy It's a long story. Called Homestuck.

aedia

@GraceNote It's that thing that @Cerberus taught me! Um. When you mention something without mentioning it.

Grace Note

6:53 PM

@aedia I still have to look up what "Jackanory" is.

Mana

@aedia I believe you mean a nunce word.

aedia

Preterition. There we go. (@Cerberus, look, I remembered all on my own!)

Kit

@MattEllen What does my cleavage have to do with my Swedish lab instructor, though?

RegDwight

@Mana Nunce?

user19161

@aedia I am trying to figure out how to pronounce your name. I think I will go with ah-ay-dia.

Matt Ellen

6:54 PM

@Kit LOL I thought you were describing yourself

Mana

@RegDwight Inside joke. Sorry.

Matt Ellen

i must read better

Kit

@MattEllen Lemme see.

Grace Note

@RegDwight It's like nonce, but said like a dunce like Maaaaaaaana ♪

RegDwight

@Mana It's okay. Keeping this room incomprehensible is a challenging task.

Kit

6:55 PM

@MattEllen Three out of four apply. The cleavage is only good when the foundation garments are doing their job though.

Matt Ellen

@Kit I did wonder why you said old.

Grace Note

Cleavage is specifically the window, moreso than the endowment, is it not?

Mana

@Grace Hah, that was. A good one. :/

Bogdan Lataianu

how to write with a small font ? I have tried \small{text} but it doesnt work

Mana

Wow what where the heck did cleavage come into here?

Cerberus

6:56 PM

@aedia I am so proud! wipes off tear

Kit

@MattEllen I am old.

Matt Ellen

@Kit your profile says 35. Is that a lie?

Kit

@GraceNote Hence the need for the right foundation garments.

Grace Note

@BogdanLataianu In a post? Use <sub> or <sup>.

Cerberus

@BogdanLataianu No idea... perhaps certain unicode characters?

Kit

6:57 PM

@MattEllen Nope.

Grace Note

@Kit Point taken.

Kit

BRB.

Cerberus

Hey, I have a question.

Matt Ellen

@Kit my parents are old. If I starting thinking people who are 35 are old, I will have to consider myself all but old. No.

aedia

@JasperLoy I seldom say it aloud, so I'm sure that'll do :)

Grace Note

6:58 PM

@MattEllen GEEZER!

Matt Ellen

@GraceNote :p

Cerberus

Is it still impolite to use a word or expression that you know people will not understand, what with modern lightning-fast ways of looking it up?

Matt Ellen

@Kit I'll happily confess to being notyoung.

Bogdan Lataianu

@Grace in an answer, do you mean \sub{text}?

Grace Note

@Cerberus The trick is to use words or expressions that can't be looked up, natch.

aedia

6:59 PM

@MattEllen Yeah, this. I can't be close to old. I haven't even spawned yet.

Matt Ellen

@Cerberus it depends. I do it for fun. Some do it to exclude people

Cerberus

@GraceNote Hah, you interpreted my question in a peculiar way!

Grace Note

@BogdanLataianu I mean, for example, use <sub>YOUR TEXT HERE</sub>. If the site you're talking about is TeX enabled then I would not know about special rules.

Mana

@Bogdan I think that sort of syntax, like \sub{text}, requires LaTeX support on whatever site you're using

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