English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

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α its_me

lmao!

Mahnax

@Kitḫ I saw that!

And I laughed, hard.

Kitḫ

Did milk come through your nose?

Matt Эллен

Aug 9 at 0:58, by Michael Mrozek

Mahnax

3:40 PM

@Kitḫ I was not drinking milk.

Kitḫ

Aww.

Mahnax

What a lovely kitten.

JSBᾶngs

well, that's sure to get the room back on-topic

the kitty, i mean

Mahnax

That's my dog, wearing some glasses.

JSBᾶngs

the dog can go to hell

Matt Эллен

3:41 PM

@Mahnax awww

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Hahaha....

JSBᾶngs

i hate dogs. no offense to @Mahnax

Mahnax

@JSBᾶngs I hate my dog too. She barks. A lot.

α its_me

mine too

when he hears children shouting

Mahnax

@JSBᾶngs She is also afraid of newspapers and wind.

JSBᾶngs

3:42 PM

then why do you keep them?

dogs are easy to get rid of, unlike children

Mahnax

@JSBᾶngs My parents love her for some obscene reason.

α its_me

@JSBᾶngs i don't think so. It's really hard once you love them

I got a golden retriever. And he's lovely

Matt Эллен

do you ever come up with psychology experiment you can't run? I just wondered if your captors found that kitten picture on you, would they torture you less? I hypothesise that the kitten would make them secretly go awwww and make them less vicious.

I'm not volunteering, btw

α its_me

there she is!

@aedia good morning

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен I would be more vicious, as a reaction to my anger at your weakness.

Mahnax

3:46 PM

@Kitḫ You wouldn't be the typical torturer.

aedia λ

@αits_me Buenas dias!

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ interesting. this is why a study needs to be carried out!

Kitḫ

@Mahnax No, I wouldn't. I would be a very good one.

Mahnax

@Kitḫ You and your knitting needles.

α its_me

@aedia Buenas tardes

Kitḫ

3:47 PM

@Mahnax What? When did I say anything about knitting needles?

α its_me

Hey, I was wondering what your PC config. is. Since you are a gamer

Mahnax

@Kitḫ Something a few days ago, about your husband stopping you from stabbing yourself in the ears with knitting needles.

α its_me

(although you have many consoles)

Kitḫ

@Mahnax That wasn't for torture purposes; that was to let the evil spirits out.

aedia λ

@MattЭллен Que tal is like sup?

Matt Эллен

3:50 PM

@aediaλ oh! good. I thought I was going madder. Thanks :)

aedia λ

This is clearly the most important part, right?

Kitḫ

What—?

α its_me

aha

Matt Эллен

@aediaλ oooooo pretty

aedia λ

I didn't have a picture handy of my own but all I had to do was google "awesome open air computer case"

Matt Эллен

3:53 PM

:D

aedia λ

She was a birthday present.

JSBᾶngs

that's awesome

α its_me

nice!

Kitḫ

You don't use a water jacket? Effin' n00bs.

;-)

Cerberus

@aediaλ I like! Is it heavier than the rest of your PC?

And what Kit says.

(Though I am just using the default fan...)

Mahnax

3:54 PM

@Kitḫ I know. But still, could be dangerous.

I have to go, bye!

@Cerberus Bye!

cya @Cerberus

@Cerberus buh bye!

this is what my case looks like...

α its_me

3:56 PM

lol! (actually it showed "Image not found" to me)

Kitḫ

Nice. Not as sexy as aedia's, though.

aedia λ

@Kitḫ My husband's case actually is capable of being set up to be water cooled because it's so gigantic, but a) I'm scared of water-cooling b) I spent like hours getting his stock heatsink off and putting on this giant new one he got that was inexpensive after rebate, so heck if I'm helping with that same computer again for a while :P

Matt Эллен

not nearly as stylish as aedia's

aedia λ

@Kitḫ giggles

I saw that!

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Is that tiny speck next to it your mother?

Bye!

aedia λ

3:57 PM

@Cerberus Bai!

Kitḫ

@aediaλ Fair enough. But that's your husband's computer. What about your own?

Cerberus

Ping back @you!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus Maybe, but that's not a picture of my personal case, just of the same model someone else owns.

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен What is your mother doing at that person's house then?

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Hmm... is his house inside the case?

Kitḫ

3:58 PM

Oh. Nevermind.

@aediaλ Nuh-uh. Nothing to see, even if it is entirely true.

Bye, @Cerb!

Go on, scoot!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus the writer doesn't mention

but it seems likely

Kitḫ

You just have to make sure that your fans point in the right direction.

Matt Эллен

always!

aedia λ

@Kitḫ It doesn't need water! Its many apertures keep it cool.

Kitḫ

Mmm, apertures.

Matt Эллен

4:01 PM

@aediaλ it's mostly aperture, from what I can see ;)

Kitḫ

It has graceful elven arches.

aedia λ

Psst Cerb: The case is really pretty light, and it's also fairly easy to lift by those top bits. The drives also slide in and out on a rail and there's only a couple screws and things that you have to adjust to be able to move that, which was nice a while ago when I changed something or other out.

@MattЭллен Indeed!

I haven't ceased enjoying seeing it every day.

Mahnax

0

Q: How should I write this phrase: "Either A or B does not exist" or "Either A or B do not exist"?

We are not native speakers, and are writing an error message for a software that should warn the user that both A and B should exist. We could rephrase to get over the question, but it puzzled us, so we decided to ask. Thank you!

grammar

I feel like that's a duplicate.

Matt Эллен

@Mahnax good spot!

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Merci.

Matt Эллен

4:11 PM

rien

Kitḫ

Lunchtime. Later.

Matt Эллен

cya @Kit

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Ah, tu parles français.

Matt Эллен

un peu, oui

Mahnax

@Kitḫ Bye!

Matt Эллен

4:13 PM

et tu aussi, je vois

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Ici, on n'est pas permis de parler français.

Matt Эллен

pourquoi?

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Oui.

Matt Эллен

je parle les langues je desire parler

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен parce que j'ai beaucoup de trouble a ecrire en français. Mais c'est ma langue maternelle.

Matt Эллен

4:17 PM

ah, oui, c'est difficile taper n'avec pas un keyboard français

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен aussi je ne suis pas sur que ma grammaire est acceptable.

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 ah, moi aussi

Mahnax

@MattЭллен rire

aedia λ

je comprends un peu, mais je ne parle pas :(

Mahnax

@aediaλ <sarcasme>Oh, mon petit chou-fleur.</sarcasme>

Matt Эллен

4:20 PM

that has to be a question on FL&U.

What is so adorable about cauliflower?

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Minkalainen?

@MattЭллен Nothing, it's just fun to say ^_^

aedia λ

Minkalainen...?

Mahnax

@aediaλ Finnish for which one?

Matt Эллен

@Mahnax aye, but it's idiomatic French, when referring to someone like your girlfriend or your child or something

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Je sais.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:35 PM

@MattЭллен quand j'etais petit, ma mere m'appelais "mon petit canard"

Kitḫ

regard autour de la chambre

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 hehehe, le canard est droles

Kitḫ

Qu'est-ce qu'on le fait ici?

JSBᾶngs

@MrShinyandNew安宇 "kwand jetties petted, mah meer mapple-ays, mon petted canard"

Kitḫ

Pourquoi est tout les chose que j'ecrit est en francais?

Sans accents.

Mahnax

4:37 PM

This is getting out of hand.

Then again, who ever cares?

JSBᾶngs

i hate french. it's my least favorite language in the world.

Mahnax

@JSBᾶngs You're such a downer.

Kitḫ

moue

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ les accents sont tombés et ne peut se lever

JSBᾶngs

@Mahnax not at all. the number of languages that i like far outnumber the languages that i dislike.

aedia λ

4:39 PM

Careful, that's Mr. Shiny's idioma madre you're talkin' 'bout!

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен risant

JSBᾶngs

especially since the languages that i strongly dislike are basically just french and mandarin chinese

Mahnax

@JSBᾶngs Yeah, but you've only said negative things, if you've spoken at all.

JSBᾶngs

@Mahnax we could talk in german, russian, finnish, kiswahili, nahuatl, or hawaiian and i wouldn't complain a bit

aedia λ

@Mahnax Cuando?

Matt Эллен

4:40 PM

24 hours ago, by JSBᾶngs

@Matt is cool

aedia λ

JSB fixes all our taggies like word and doesn't whine a bit!

that's positive :D

see? SEE?!

@JSB 你为什么不喜欢普通话？

@JSBᾶngs 为什么不喜欢中文？

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Jinx！

Matt Эллен

4:42 PM

lol

I think.

哈哈哈

@Kitḫ 我只是覺得它的聲音醜陋。

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oh! So that's how you laugh in Chinese.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Also, I'm beginning to wonder if I should take it personally that the only two other languages I know are the ones @JSB hates :p

Mahnax

4:43 PM

Minä en ole onnellinen nyt.

JSBᾶngs

though i am very fond of this character:

Mahnax

@aediaλ He hates dogs!

JSBᾶngs

b/c, seriously, woah

Kitḫ

@Reg! Are you feeling better?

Mahnax

Hi @reg.

aedia λ

4:44 PM

Aaaugh it's giant!

JSBᾶngs

@Mahnax but i love cats and chinchillas and spiny anteaters!

Matt Эллен

so big!

Kitḫ

It has a heart in it!

aedia λ

And like, woah, a thing in a thing.

JSBᾶngs

@aediaλ inside another thing

RegDwight Ѭſ道

4:44 PM

@Kitḫ a little bit, yes. Mainly because there was no way for me to feel worse. :P

Kitḫ

And a horse.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JSBᾶngs That's just a made-up character for a store

JSBᾶngs

Biángbiáng noodles

Biáng biáng noodles, also known as , are a type of noodle popular in China's Shaanxi province. The noodles, touted as one of the "ten strange wonders of Shaanxi" (), are described as being like a belt, due to their thickness and length. The "Noodle King" chain in Beijing () serves biáng biáng noodles. About the noodle The noodle is broad and hand-made and is topped with lots of red hot peppers for the cold winter in Shaanxi. This noodle was a poor-man's meal in the countryside, but has recently become popular in trendy restaurants due to its weird character name. The Chinese chara...

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ and fire

Kitḫ

And a sword. And a speech radical.

Mahnax

4:45 PM

@JSBᾶngs I like cats too.

aedia λ

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Pfft like the prettiest things in English aren't logos.

JSBᾶngs

listen, here is the comprehensive list of things that i don't like: dogs, spiders, olives, french, and chinese. now will you please stop accusing me of being negative?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@aediaλ you haven't seen many logos in your life, have you?

Mahnax

@JSBᾶngs Fine.

aedia λ

Nobody cares about making letters pretty in English at all if they can't sell things with them.

Kitḫ

4:46 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 She didn't say all logos were pretty.

aedia λ

I didn't say ugly logos don't exist.

Kitḫ

And shouldn't you get back in bed?

aedia λ

@Kitḫ Jinx!

JSBᾶngs

@MrShinyandNew安宇 but this is not a logo. from what i understand it's a character in widespread, though non-official, use

Matt Эллен

make it work, make it fast, make it look good. the programmer's priorities

Kitḫ

4:47 PM

Matt Эллен

golly!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JSBᾶngs well, all I know about it is the wikipedia article. But I dispute the existence of any chinese character that's not in unicode. :)

Mahnax

Goodbye, I ought to keep some sanity for later.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

So, um, @Kit, where can I find Rob and Cerberus these days?

aedia λ

I have one of those in front of me. Well, the slightly more typographical half, anyway.

JSBᾶngs

4:48 PM

@Mahnax bye, mahnax. enjoy your sanity.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwightѬſ道 Cerb hangs out here still.

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 Remember the link that crashed your computer?

aedia λ

@RegDwightѬſ道 sends internet chicken soup

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ Nope.

Matt Эллен

any duplicate hounds in the room?

Kitḫ

4:50 PM

@RegDwighт chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/1928/war-metal-tyrant

Matt Эллен

0

Q: Which is the correct: "John and Bob's phones" or "John's and Bob's phones"

Which of the following two statements are correct: "Can you call John and Bob's phones?" "Can you call John's and Bob's phones?" Both statements mean to call Bob's phone and to call John's phone.

grammaticality

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Dupe.

Matt Эллен

6

Q: Preferred way to apostrophise in case of dual or multiple ownership by distinct entities?

Consider describing the wedding of X and Y. If I want to avoid the overly-formal and poor-flowing "wedding of", it is more correct to say "X and Y's wedding" or "X's and Y's wedding"? I acknowledge a very similar question has already been asked: What possessive forms are used for mutual 1st per...

possessive apostrophe

got it

oh, maybe not quite

aedia λ

or

5

Q: What possessive forms are used for mutual 1st person ownership?

I want to talk to someone about the house that my wife and I own. Saying, for example, "My wife's and my house is awesome," sounds a bit funny to me. What's the best way to express this? Clarification I'm asking specifically about the grammar of multiple nouns in possessive form. I'm particu...

possessive

or

23

Q: Is "my wife and I's" correct, or should it be "my wife's and my"?

I just stumbled upon a Reddit post titled: My wife and I's seafood collaboration dinner. How does it look? Sure enough, the top comment immediately points out that it should be "my wife's and my". However, a cross-post to the Grammar subreddit produced the following comment: It's fine a...

possessive personal-pronouns apostrophe noun-phrases

?

What is up with all of these?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Just check the linked questions here

23

Q: Is "my wife and I's" correct, or should it be "my wife's and my"?

I just stumbled upon a Reddit post titled: My wife and I's seafood collaboration dinner. How does it look? Sure enough, the top comment immediately points out that it should be "my wife's and my". However, a cross-post to the Grammar subreddit produced the following comment: It's fine a...

possessive personal-pronouns apostrophe noun-phrases

Kitḫ

4:52 PM

@aediaλ This one is a favorite of mine.

Matt Эллен

@aediaλ not quite, because each person has their own thing

aedia λ

I mean other than the owly one that happened first.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Oops. jinx

I'm on my wife's laptop and can't type at all.

Kitḫ

@aediaλ It's kind of like all the questions about a/an and commas and stuff.

aedia λ

@RegDwightѬſ道 You must be sick. Go get some sleep. Poor thing.

Sure, sure, you just don't want to admit that being sick has slowed you down to thinking at the speed of a normal unicorn.

Kitḫ

4:53 PM

Reg is a unicorn?!

Matt Эллен

I'm not sure it's a dupe of those because there are two phones in the new question, where as the wedding and the meal are singular

although, does that really matter?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kit I get a cat in goggles going Oh Noes.

Matt Эллен

here's one

aedia λ

@MattЭллен Does anybody really know what time it is?

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 Did you register? Or when you try to register?

Matt Эллен

4:56 PM

3

Q: Confused about possessives

Should it be: There will be readings from Nikki Giovanni’s and Alice Walker’s writings. or ... from Nikki Giovanni and Alice Walker's writings. Saying it out loud the latter sounds right, but looking at it the former looks better.

possessive apostrophe

Kitḫ

@aediaλ It's four o'clock. It's not late. It's ear-lay.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ I registered but skipped the second step because I don't know what Facebook or Twitter is.

Matt Эллен

@aediaλ I've been counting the seconds since the world service last announced the time, and I can say wi- damnit I lost count

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 It's a bit buggy. What's your username?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@MattЭллен There you go.

@Kitḫ The same as in WMT

Kitḫ

4:57 PM

I thought it might be. BRB

Matt Эллен

time to go, you crazy lot. hugs

Kitḫ

hugs

RegDwight Ѭſ道

CU

aedia λ

@MattЭллен Hasta pronto!

Kitḫ

@Reg You're in, so try again.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

4:59 PM

Mkay.

Now it tells me to look for groups

Kitḫ

You can skip that too, I think.

You should have an invite somewhere.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Thanks CU there

Kitḫ

OKDOK

JSBᾶngs

@Kit i just completed my sign-up, too

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JSB @Reg use Chrome for less pain once you're there.

Kitḫ

5:03 PM

Kthx

JSBᾶngs

@MrShinyandNew already done

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah that's what I'm using

Kitḫ

@JSBᾶngs jsb?

JSBᾶngs

@Kitḫ it's my email address minus the @gmail.com

Kitḫ

@JSBᾶngs I can't find that.

JSBᾶngs

5:07 PM

@Kitḫ then how did you email me?

ooooh, you emailed my non-secret address

Kitḫ

@JSBᾶngs I'm sorry, I mean, I can't find that username.

@JSBᾶngs Well, yeah. How would I have your secret address?

JSBᾶngs

@Kit check your email

Kitḫ

gasp

Got you!

aedia λ

Is he Voldemort?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

well, lunch time for me. tttyl

Kitḫ

5:10 PM

@aediaλ I can't tell you. It's a secret.

aedia λ

Oh, right! He-who-cannot-be-named, then.

Oooh, food! I want food!

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Enjoy!

Kitḫ

Excellent. taps fingertips together

Now just one more person...

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Okay folks, I'm off for today. Have fun.

Kitḫ

Bai!

JSBᾶngs

b'bye

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Q: pins, wins, and losses

I would like to know what is the meaning of "pins, wins, and losses", taken from this text: "I needed no further justification. I was now the photographer-witness, safely and objectively documenting my sons' pins, wins, and losses. It saved me a section of stomach lining and led to some int...

word-usage

ah, wrestling.

user19161

6:04 PM

Boo!

user19161

Do you guys keep seeing these Mike Chang bodybuilding ads on youtube or is it just me?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy I've been seeing Chuck Norris WoW ads

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 And I also keep seeing the Asian dating site ads as well. Perhaps the ads are region-specific.

user19161

There were lingerie ads on the Cambridge dictionary site by the way.

user19161

That really took me by surprise.

user19161

6:17 PM

There are no bras on the Oxford one though.

aedia λ

I usually see ads for, like, Verizon phones. What have you guys been searching for?

There were some weird ads on that dictionary, though, yeah.

Cambridge, I mean.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@aediaλ apparently Jasper's been searching for Mick Chang in lingerie

user19161

@aediaλ I don't know if the ads are search-specific. But it is well-known that youtube and dictionaries are not porn sites.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy oh? I bet if you look in a dictionary you can find a penis or a vagina

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Now I recall. Maybe I was searching to find the plural forms of these words since the question was raised.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:25 PM

@JasperLoy since dictionaries contain ALL the words, they must be the smuttiest things ever!

aedia λ

Wikipedia is pretty salacious too. I mean, you can even see it checking its cervical mucus!

Kitḫ

Oh barf.

scrubs brain

aedia λ

Did you go look it up?

giggles

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Cambridge: the filthy dictionary

4

(that's my "staircase wit")

aedia λ

Stop making me laugh out my coffee!

My keyboard says it doesn't appreciate it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:34 PM

@aediaλ maybe you should get a waterproof one

aedia λ

No! You'll just have to stop being funny.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I was born funny.

aedia λ

Ha, ha.

So I have to concentrate and plow through some boring work. What music should I listen to?

I actually listened to like two hours of What is Love again the other day before I even remembered to stop it playing, but I don't think I can do that again.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Tetris theme B

I extracted a loop from a youtube video, you can play it in Winamp on repeat, it's perfect

35s loop

Just tell me where to mail it

aedia λ

6:53 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 You'll get an email from me in a moment, at your shiny gmail that's on your blog.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@aediaλ yup, got it, and replied

hm, it's not sent yet, hang on.

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