The 2nd Monitor

Pimgd

10:01

I can't do this

it violates the idea of code review to just write answers like that

the result is something like

<code> wrong, <code> wrong, <code> wrong

skiwi

<everything> wrong

Pimgd

10k + only:

codereview.stackexchange.com/a/135267/49350

what happens when I try to write crap answers

Mast

@N3buchadnezzar It happens. We all get downvotes once in a while.

Pimgd

it... it hurts

Mast

@Pimgd So, write good answers instead?

N3buchadnezzar

10:05

@Pimgd I did that with the hangman answer. Every time I thought he had written something decent, it turned out to be sub-optimal at best.

Pimgd

takes too much time to explain everything that is wrong with the code

N3buchadnezzar

@Mast No, no. This means war.

@Pimgd Burn it, start from scratch?

Mast

The only way to really beat a downvote is to write an even better question next time.

Pimgd

1

A: Simple C# Interest Calculating Program

Looking at your code I see the following. Why are principle, interest and numYears public? There are no comments in the code. I think it would be better if most of the code was in a class and main was in Program on its own. There is too much static stuff. Its a matter of preference, but you cou...

yay, someone else did it

Jeroen Vannevel

hardly a good review

> There is too much static stuff.
> (..)
> It causes confusion and can introduce problems so isn't a good idea.
> (..)
> I don't think this is a good idea
> (..)
> Its a long time since I though about the reason why, but for loops are quicker (I think)

no explanation, no reasoning, guessing, vague

Mast

10:16

It's a start, but doesn't finish.

Pimgd

I can't review that code

it's just...

there's a underlying flaw

which is that the program can quit at any time

and it basically ruins everything

and combine it with while loops everywhere

and input output logic twisted together with calculation logic and flow logic

and the whole program is a mess

recommend reeducation of programmer

Mast

goto exit

Pimgd

and then a total rewrite

@Mast pls no

N3buchadnezzar

Python should really not have implemented quit()

Jeroen Vannevel

github.com/VSDiagnostics/VSDiagnostics/blob/develop/…

#yolo

N3buchadnezzar

10:20

@Pimgd Are you riding this train?

Pimgd

probably

but it's not nope

it's just blehhhhhh

Like half stale bread

N3buchadnezzar

Reading some code ripe for review, but then...

Pimgd

@JeroenVannevel ... what happened to " else if"

Mast

@N3buchadnezzar I thought it was only accessible from IPython and the likes?

Pimgd

did you forget programming

help I'm stuck in grumpy rant mode

Jeroen Vannevel

10:23

what else if

That's 3 nested if's deep

Joe Wallis

@N3buchadnezzar This might interest you then, ;P Python exit commands - why so many and when should each be used? There should only be os._quit() and SystemExitIMO

Mast

@JeroenVannevel Please make it die.

Pimgd

                    if (inlineArrayCreation != null)
                    {
                        amountOfFormatArguments = inlineArrayCreation.Expressions.Count;
                        goto placeholderVerification;
                    }

                    // If we got here it means the arguments are passed in through an identifier which resolves to an array
                    // aka: referencing a variable/field that is of type T[]
                    // We cannot reliably get the amount of arguments if it's a method

N3buchadnezzar

You have 5 votes left for today

Jeroen Vannevel

There are 2 more if levels above that

Pimgd

10:24

                    if (inlineArrayCreation != null)
                    {
                        amountOfFormatArguments = inlineArrayCreation.Expressions.Count;
                    } else if (hasObjectArray)
                    {
                        return;
                    }

Fiiiiixed.

N3buchadnezzar

Just doing the lords work, mam.

Pimgd

                    if (inlineArrayCreation != null)
                    {
                        amountOfFormatArguments = inlineArrayCreation.Expressions.Count;
                        goto placeholderVerification;
                    }

                    // If we got here it means the arguments are passed in through an identifier which resolves to an array
                    // aka: referencing a variable/field that is of type T[]
                    // We cannot reliably get the amount of arguments if it's a method

fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiixed.

once you make it an else if that is.

N3buchadnezzar

@JoeWallis Even then, those should only be used by experienced programmers imho.

Jeroen Vannevel

the goto expresses intent much clearer imo

Joe Wallis

@N3buchadnezzar Well no-one should really use os._quit(), and SystemExit is good for when you need to say the program failed... Which are both things novices won't be doing

N3buchadnezzar

10:26

Exactly =)

Pimgd

The only reason that a goto is helping your code be "much clearer" is because it's a long winded section of checks without explanation anyway

Mast

@Pimgd Now make it a PR.

Pimgd

your guardclauses have taken over your code

N3buchadnezzar

@JoeWallis Well quit() should just make a hand appear out of the computer, and slap whoever tried to write it.

3

Joe Wallis

It's for use in IDLE... the design rational makes sense...

N3buchadnezzar

10:28

Not good enough.

Mast

It does make sense in IDLE and IPython and the likes, but it should be highly illegal in actual code.

Joe Wallis

@Mast python -s file.py ;P

Mast

> Don't add user site directory to sys.path.

How does that solve anything?

Did you mean -S perhaps?

That should disable the imports.

Joe Wallis

Yeah -S

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Dynamic wrappper used to unit test ASP.NET Core MVC Controllers that return anonymous objects

Originally created for this answer on SO, I thought there was still room for improvement on the initial basic idea. Also thought about using an extension method to make using syntax simpler. public class DynamicObjectResultValue : DynamicObject, IEquatable<DynamicObjectResultValue> { privat...

0

Q: Better way to write a function with if else?

Im trying to learn how to write better, more efficient JS and wanted to run this function I'd written by here and see if people can suggest an improved method... It's basically a people filter based upon 2 variables, Demo... http://codepen.io/liamgallagher/pen/AXVRAg It works fine but if additi...

javascript jquery

Dan Pantry

10:40

Ahh, I love in-the-zone days

Mast

@CaptainObvious Better way to write a title?

skiwi

@DanPantry It's more like an in-de-zon day here

N3buchadnezzar

@skiwi Punny!

@Mast 5 votes left

Dan Pantry

ha

Im going to be getting a mac for work, but our help ticket system only works in IE

no-more-user-support-weeeeee

Mast

@DanPantry I thought you were about to move jobs?

Dan Pantry

10:50

I'm applying for Riot but the job is not confirmed yet @Mast

Mast

Takes them long enough.

Dan Pantry

Well, the interview process isn't over yet

I have another interview today, potentially another one after that. BUt after that, it's verbal offer time.

Mast

:-)

Good luck!

N3buchadnezzar

@DanPantry Why so many interviews?

Dan Pantry

Riot is very thorough @N3.

@Mast Thank you :)

N3buchadnezzar

10:52

Do you have to write FizzBuzz in more and more obscure languages?

Dan Pantry

Actually I haven't been asked to write a single line of code so far because the position isn't technically a code position

In the technical interview I was asked far more technical questions related to itsec and netsec than code

N3buchadnezzar

Be sure not cause a riot during the interviews though and good luck!

Dan Pantry

lol :) This is the last but one, I've already had loads. At this point I believe the final interviews are a formality

Jeroen Vannevel

> it is often better to go ahead and do an operation, then choose to inhibit or ignore some or all of the results, than try to conditionally perform the operation. The usercmd_t generation relates to this (and other messes related to the interaction with game over bindsets), where the usercmd_t are only generated when they “need to be”.

The way we have traditionally measured performance and optimized our games encouraged a lot of conditional operations – recognizing that a particular operation doesn’t need to be done in some subset of the operating states, and skipping it. This gives bette…

number-none.com/blow/blog/programming/2014/09/26/…

interesting thought

N3buchadnezzar

@DanPantry Perhaps they gather the two best candidates and make them duel to death.

2

Dan Pantry

10:59

@JeroenVannevel Sounds like a problem with side effects being where they shouldn't be instead of a performance thing

Jeroen Vannevel

sure, but side effects are inevitable in a realistic scenario

so a pragmatic approach to prevent these issues is going this route

Dan Pantry

I'm not saying avoid side effects, but if you get yourself into a situation where not calling a method breaks a side effect on the other side of the app, always calling it isn't the right solution

The problem there is that either your documentation sucks or your code is factored badly

Jeroen Vannevel

@DanPantry Why not? It will solve the problem in 100% of the cases

Dan Pantry

because it sweeps the dust under the rug :\

N3buchadnezzar

@Pimgd Many are jumping on that calculator question.

Dan Pantry

11:03

@JeroenVannevel though to be fair I can't say much without being given an example of code in question

Jeroen Vannevel

There will always be dust though. The idea behind this is to embrace it, take the (small) performance overhead and pitch that against the (almost) guarantee that there will be less bugs than if you tried to be super clean the entire time

Vogel612

Monking

N3buchadnezzar

@Vogel612 Monking! Sorry about the star wall.

2

Mast

@N3buchadnezzar @DanPantry If they do that, watch out for how you use your snowballs.

Vogel612

eh why?

Mast

11:06

He's all over it.

Vogel612

@Mast you mean the kind with rocks in them?

Mast

@Vogel612 No.

Dan Pantry

@Mast wat?

Sorry, I don't get the joke

Mast

Footage (11 seconds) @DanP @Vogel

They got a rematch. It happened AGAIN.

Dan Pantry

YouTube is blocked in work unfortunately, so I'll take a look when I get home

Mast

11:09

What happened, basically, is during the All-Stars 2015 they held a couple of 1v1 matches.

If you throw a snowball on a player, you can activate it again to swoosh into your enemy.

N3buchadnezzar

@Mast More interested in watching super smash brothers melee unfortunately. More fun to watch for me personally =)

Mast

If that enemy happens to be recalling, you'll swoosh into your enemy base.

Insta death.

Vogel612

was that before snowballs did damage?

Mast

@N3buchadnezzar Tough to find good opponents though :-)

Dan Pantry

@Mast Ahhh. I thought you meant the ARAM snowballs

@Vogel612 yes

Mast

11:11

Yes, this is one of the reasons why they made snowballs do damage IIUC.

Dan Pantry

/r/leagueoflegends is leaking

Mast

To interrupt the recall.

N3buchadnezzar

@Mast We play at uni, my friends are hella good compared to me. Nothing compared to the international level though.

Well people watch soccer without playing it themselselves.

Dan Pantry

@N3buchadnezzar I'm Diamond - top 0.5% - and I'm still nothing compared to the international level. Pros are ridiculous. I've played against Febiven in the mid lane (my main role, in a favourable matchup for me) and I got toasted.

N3buchadnezzar

@DanPantry Yeah, it is crazy how good some people are

Vogel612

11:20

wow... Generics are kinda out of hand....

Malachi

did anyone bookmark our conversation yesterday?

Mast

@Malachi This one?

skiwi

@Vogel612 Nothing special to see here

Mast

Is this really how one should C#?

using (var gp = new GroupPrincipal(pc))
using (var ps = new PrincipalSearcher(gp))
using (var psr = ps.FindAll())

Looks odd.

N3buchadnezzar

@Mast Yolo, bro.

Mast

11:26

Isn't this working around the scope limitations or something?

skiwi

Where's your brackets?

Vogel612

@Mast looks completely reasonable

though you might prefer to pack it into one statement

Dan Pantry

@Mast Nope, though it probably violates SRP.

Malachi

@Mast lol, yeah I bookmarked it. I was able to find it

how do I get to the IL tab of LinqPad?

Jeroen Vannevel

click on the IL tab

Malachi

11:31

is that something that comes with the paid version?

Jeroen Vannevel

don't think so

just make sure you've compiled the code

aka press Play

"Register online!"
"but first call us and pick up a PIN code at the office. Then go home to register"

Dan Pantry

@JeroenVannevel same thing with my bank

I wanted to reset my PIN

went online, through the FAQ etc to reset my PIN

told me I had to either go into store or call them up

and at neither place would they ask me for any more ID than I would have given online anyway (i.e, they didn't ask for a passport)

it's dumb

Mast

At my bank I have to ID myself for just about anything. The moment you need to speak with a cashier is the moment you need to ID.

I think I can reset my PIN and nuke my card over the phone, but they won't tell me anything over phone.

You'll get a letter with a pin, a letter with a card, etc.

Pimgd

@N3buchadnezzar what calculator question

N3buchadnezzar

@Pimgd The one you complained so much about. Do not tell me you have already forgotten about it?

Pimgd

11:47

I kinda had?

I don't like remembering blehhh things

5

Mast

Don't we all?

N3buchadnezzar

@Pimgd Anyhow it now has three (that is 11 for you binary folks out there) answers and a non-empty set of votes.

Mast

I like it when my vote sets are non-empty.

N3buchadnezzar

Dont we all?

Mast

2 more suggested edit reviews till badge.

Duga

12:00

[Zomis/Monopoly] Zomis created repository

Mast

Get off my ~~lawn~~ queue!

@Duga @EBrown How's yours going? Let me know if you need an international beta-test.

syb0rg

Monking

Mast

Monking @syb0rg

N3buchadnezzar

@syb0rg Learning a machine how to hangman should be easy right?

syb0rg

12:16

@N3buchadnezzar Mmmm, depends on how you approach it

I dunno about easy... but there are certainly harder things to do in the world

OP put in effort to fix up question, needs recognition: codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/135194/…

Mast

@N3buchadnezzar Don't teach a machine how to hang. They do that out of their own plenty of times already.

2

@syb0rg Yea, encountered it in the re-open queue already.

3 more to re-open, or a hammer.

Crowbar?

N3buchadnezzar

@syb0rg As a start it would just need to be tested at the letter frequency right?

Then have some node thingies with word tuples that ofter appear togheter

^ Me not knowing **s about machine learning.

Duga

possible answer invalidation by Mathias Ettinger on question by Lin Ma: codereview.stackexchange.com/posts/135245/revisions

syb0rg

@N3buchadnezzar Well first you would need a game's API to use, then you need some way to gauge how close it is to winning (for the cost function)

This type of answer isn't allowed, right? codereview.stackexchange.com/a/135261/27623

Vogel612

@syb0rg doesn't add anything new, eh?

N3buchadnezzar

12:21

How close it is to winning should be simple right? Just check how many blank words are remaining. Blanks / words total

syb0rg

@Vogel612 OP only implemented half of my advice ಠ_ಠ

and definitely nothing new

Vogel612

lol free downvotes and NAA Flags...

Mast

@Duga Nah.

A fragment of a powerpoint slide I got with a book today:

N3buchadnezzar

What about like for once: comment? I am looking at you

Mast

My eyes!

Pimgd

12:25

Please do not post an answer to incorporate feedback from answers, doing so goes against the Question + Answer style of Code Review. This is not a forum where you should keep the most updated version in your question. Please see what you may and may not do after receiving answers. Asking a followup question for an example, however is very much welcome =) — N3buchadnezzar 39 secs ago

> Posting a self-answer

> If you want to show everyone how you improved your code, but don't want to ask another question, then post an answer to your own question. Selfie answers are acceptable on Stack Exchange sites, and even encouraged: there is a self-learner badge you can earn for that. Selfie answers can even be upvoted, downvoted, or commented on in their own right. However, your answer must meet the standards of a Code Review answer, just like any other answer:

- Code-only answers that don't actually review the code are insufficient and are subject to deletion.

- Describe what you changed, and why. (see above point)

Mast

@Pimgd Omnomnomnom. Must have moar questions.

throck95

"We are pleased to inform you that your rebate, with the Basic you selected has been processed and approved on 07/19/2016.
Your MasterCard® will be mailed within 5-7 weeks."

How hard is it to ship a gift card lololol. Rebates are always insane.

Pimgd

- Give credit to any other users who may have helped you

syb0rg

@Mast Ugh, not with that code tho

Pimgd

The answer:

> According to syb0rg's suggestion

credit given.

> I refactored the main() and calc_bspline_surf() as below:

> define a struct Surface to reduce the number of arguments of calc_bspline_surf()

> using the temp = calloc(c, sizeof(double)); to replace for-loop for (r = 0; r <= c - 1; r++){temp[r] = 0.0;}

sounds like he described what he changed and why.

It's not code only.

Why are we hating on this again?

Mast

12:27

Arigato, senpai Pimgd.

Pimgd

Because if that user clicks that link and reads that text and goes through that checklist I get the feeling they'll be just as confused as I am right now

N3buchadnezzar

@Pimgd I tried to find your suggested edit in the "Frequently posted comments", however could not find it. Do you mind posting it there for later?

Pimgd

I added a comment;

I think it's perfectly fine to post this answer as "look, I changed my code based off feedback". However, it could do with a bit more explanation in the "why I did this" category. — Pimgd 1 min ago

@N3buchadnezzar what suggested edit

syb0rg

Even if it happens to be okay as an answer, it still isn't a good review of the code

N3buchadnezzar

I also totally agree with you. Should I delete my comment? As far as an answer it is subpar. And is better off as it's own follo-up question imho.

> If you want to show everyone how you improved your code, but don't want to ask another question, then post an answer to your own question. Selfie answers are acceptable on Stack Exchange sites, and even encouraged: there is a self-learner badge you can earn for that. Selfie answers can even be upvoted, downvoted, or commented on in their own right. *However, your answer must meet the standards of a Code Review answer, just like any other answer:*
- Code-only answers that don't actually review the code are insufficient and are subject to deletion.

Pimgd

12:31

Well what you've got here is a case of what seems to be contradictory policy

throck95

@Pimgd While he does give credit, to me I think it's NAA because it doesn't elaborate on the reasoning, the why, how it improves it. Just posting an update doesn't do anything. Saying you did XYZ doesn't answer the question. If he explained reasoning, provided facts, and specifically referenced exact points of change and how it benefits the code to either make or ignore the suggestion, it might be an answer. Just my opinion.

Pimgd

That's what we'd call "crap answer"

N3buchadnezzar

@Pimgd Imho code only is not an answer.

throck95

@N3buchadnezzar It wasn't code only, but I do agree. There is almost nothing there so it pretty much is code only.

N3buchadnezzar

@throck95 I think that is what is implied with the wording code only.

Pimgd

12:35

Code only is for code only

where the answer is a block of code

N3buchadnezzar

So if I write "Here is the code" then the code, then my answer is technicaly not code only?

Waa

This seems like a very silly distinction.

throck95

@N3buchadnezzar With interpretation, you have to look at things in a very black and white perspective. While you and I may agree that what was said doesn't qualify as valid not-code input, others may disagree and it leaves too much room for argument.

N3buchadnezzar

Splitting hairs over an answer which we all agree really should not be.

Pimgd

my reaction is this aggressive because of @Vogel612 remark

> lol free downvotes and NAA Flags...

no.

It's not that clear and it's not an opportunity to heap on as a pile, like you'd do with spam

throck95

@N3buchadnezzar Pretty much. But it's that split hair that has to be taken into account because if it get's reviewed, it's these things that will be asked.

With a change of topic, though, @Pimgd seems bored

Vogel612

12:40

@Pimgd meh. there's that one critical puzzle piece missing.

lemme check meta, brb.

Pimgd

I'm not bored because I'm not writing silly stuff in here as usual

Vogel612

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Q: Self-accepting own answer when competing answers exist

It came up in chat that one particular user seemed to be in the habit of: Posting a good question; Receiving good answers; Posting his/her refactored code as community answer, after adapting some things using advice from answers, sometimes with little to no explanation about what they did diffe...

discussion accepted-answer etiquette self-answer

> The problem comes in when you only implement the advice given to you by other answers

the point is that the answer provides absolutely no new information or insight

syb0rg

Oh hey, I'm the top answer to that meta post...

throck95

@Vogel612 Not completely viable though. He still has the original AA accepted

Vogel612

@throck95 correct, but that doesn't make the point much less valid

throck95

12:42

He didn't change to a selfie just because he posted an update

@Vogel612 agree - just thought I'd make the point that will undoubtedly come up

Vogel612

> The problem is when your selfie is not actually a review. If you just implemented the advices given in one or more other answers, that's not a review. As such, it's not an appropriate answer on this site. And if it's not an appropriate answer, then it certainly shouldn't be the coveted accepted answer, and you can expect it to get downvoted.

^^ Janos' answer

maybe that should be made more clear in the "what to do when you got an answer" ...

throck95

@Vogel612 It doesn't really apply to that though. It sort of does, but sort of doesn't. IMO, it might be better to explain that on a self-answer post.

Malachi

sorry to interrupt, but check this out, I thought it was funny, I found a similar post somewhere on Twitter --> github.com/monokal/Shellshock

throck95

BTW - refreshing so my new name takes effect, always hated this name

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Java password encryption based on time and string

I have a program that: Takes a user specified string Creates password from the string and previous, current, and next day Encrypts the strings Chops some middle characters from the strings (needed to be shorter password) Returns a JSON object with 3 passwords My main concern is that everythin...

java performance strings

Malachi

12:46

A script to display SEE YOU SPACE COWBOY whenever you logout of your terminal. #CowboyBebop https://gist.github.com/danielrehn/d2e6f2129e5f853c3166 http://t.co/itYigB0GWj

Tweeted by daniel_rehn on July 7, 2014 at 2:30 AM

throck95

meh it'll change eventually

Vogel612

Horse not found?

throck95

@Pimgd got quiet :P - guess he wasn't bored

Pimgd

@throck95 I have actual work to do, kthx

throck95

@Pimgd what is this "work"

Pimgd

12:49

I'm out

back in whenever

when I get bored again, apparently

seee yaaaaaaaaaaa

throck95

Please define work! Use it in a sentence! lol

Duga

@Taztingo They ask "Do you have any opinion to improve ... ?" and that is code review. They ask "Can I save .. ? I mean ..." and that is unclear what they are asking. They give a large amount of badly formatted code which is not a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example. — AdrianHHH 39 secs ago

please see codereview codereview.stackexchange.com — Luis González 5 secs ago

skiwi

Question for those who live outside the US... Here in The Netherlands it costs €16,50 to send a tracked letter internationally (and €11,50 within Europe), isn't that insanely high?

throck95

@skiwi So that's like 20 USD roughly - tracked letter meaning just shipping tracking right?

Heslacher

@skiwi in germany it will add €2,50 to the default fee for international

skiwi

12:59

@throck95 Yep

For reference, a 20-50 gram letter without tracking costs €2,50 sent internationally

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