The 2nd Monitor

Duga

12:00 AM

[skiwi2/HearthMonitor-LogReader] 2 commits.

[Vincentyification/JavaBot‌] 15 commits. 1 closed issue. 1 issue comment.

[Vogel612/JavaBot] 4 commits.

[Vogel612/testclient_javabot] 1 closed issue.

[Vogel612/testclient_javabot] 1 commit.

[Zomis/GithubHookSEChatService] 9 commits.

Vogel612

BUG!!

Hosch250

1 more view!

Simon André Forsberg

@Vogel612 yeah yeah, I haven't exactly understood why. it only happens on your repo. Feel free to add a github issue about it

Hosch250

MADE IT

Simon André Forsberg

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Q: You are being watched! - Comments of Interest

You are being watched Code Review has an open system A machine that spies on you on every hour of every day I know because I built it. I designed the machine to detect suggestions to post on Code Review but it sees everything Horrible comments involving ordinary users Users like yo...

@rolfl @Donald.McLean How do you like that title? ^^

Captain Obvious

12:08 AM

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Q: You are being watched! - Comments of Interest

You are being watched Code Review has an open system A machine that spies on you on every hour of every day I know because I built it. I designed the machine to detect suggestions to post on Code Review but it sees everything Horrible comments involving ordinary users Users like yo...

java stackexchange spring

Hosch250

Incoming question!

Captain Obvious

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Q: I IZ IN YR Mind UPPIN YR Crazeez

Seeing that I got 30 loves and one hate on my last LOLCODE question, I decided to write another. This program inputs a numbr in the range of 1-100 (inclusive) from one playr, and the second playr must gess it. HAI 1.2 HOW IZ I GetNum I HAS A WatzNum GIMMEH WatzNum ...

number-guessing-game lolcode

Simon André Forsberg

@Hosch250 I'd recommend not writing too many lolcode questions on CR.

Hosch250

OK, this can be the last.

Simon André Forsberg

There's been a debate previously about whether or not it should even be accepted here at all.

Hosch250

12:17 AM

Oh, I see.

Should I delete this one?

Simon André Forsberg

My reason for accepting it was that it wouldn't happen so often.

Let it be, I just hope it doesn't get as much attention as your previous question.

You should try writing Brainfuck instead, that ought to keep you occupied for a wwhile.

Hosch250

Maybe next time.

I wonder how close I am to Inquisitive.

Only a couple questions at the most.

Phrancis

@CaptainObvious "Am looking to clean the code a bit and maybe make it smaller as I feel I code is lengthy." - Sounds kind of funny coming from someone who writes Python!

Hosch250

After that and Favorite Question, I have all the silver question badges.

See you later, supper just went on.

Simon André Forsberg

@Hosch250 30 questions on 30 unique days, I believe. This one might be it for you. Depending on how many times you have posted two questions on the same day

Phrancis

12:23 AM

@Hosch250 This is just my opinion, take it for what it is. It's fun to get rep and badges and all, I think SE is the epitome of gamifying

But, I think many would agree that writing new questions just for the sake of increasing rep/badges is not really constructive, and LOLCODE kind of has a bit of that ring to it

Realistically, I don't think anyone will ever implement a real program with LOLCODE (or Brainfuck) so it's fun to play around with but can be seen as taking attention away from more serious questions... does that make sense?

Simon André Forsberg

I have to say though, Brainfuck and LOLCODE are completely different. Brainfuck wwas made because it requires a minimal compiler. LOLCODE is just for the LOLZ. Additionally, Brainfuck is a real challenge to code in.

@Hosch250 FYI:

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Q: Is [lolcode] reviewable?

Down with FizzBuzz created a lolcode tag. Some (cough) brainfuck (cough) are even further down the esoteric alley. Given our current site rules, I'd tend to agree. I don't think allowing lolcode questions on CR will bring a massive amount of 'em. brainfuck has 13 questions since May 2011. ...

discussion scope

Phrancis

(Mind you, I wouldn't put is past @Simon to implement something useful in BF lol)

rolfl

Think of the irony, chatbot for code review in brainfuck

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@SimonAndréForsberg - is the rate-limiter for Duga moot now?

Simon André Forsberg

@rolfl yeah, it is not needed as I have 10k requests per day, there's plenty of room. As long as I have the key, of course.

@rolfl hell no I ain't writing that!

2

(can't even do a HTTP request in Brainfuck)

@Phrancis @Mat'sMug has challenged me to make a Sudoku solver in Brainfuck. I would like to make one some day but it is definitely gonna take a while...

Phrancis

@SimonAndréForsberg I can't imagine. Not sure I could even do "Hello World" in BF.

Simon André Forsberg

12:34 AM

@Phrancis that one's not that difficult... I could almost do it by hand.

Phrancis

I think I'll try my hand at Java first, maybe you can teach me BF one day lol.

Mehrad

BF ?

Phrancis

Brainfuck

Mehrad

learn Python @Phrancis... it's almost similar but better (politer)

Phrancis

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Q: FizzBuzz in Brainfuck

Inspired a bit by a previous Brainfuck question and the recent fizzbuzz invasion, I decided to make FizzBuzz in Brainfuck. The code is entirely my own, except for the inclusion of the Printing a number algorithm that I found on StackOverflow. My code is divided into several parts. Setup Const...

fizzbuzz brainfuck

@Mehrad Than Java? or BF? lol

Hosch250

12:38 AM

Hey guys, is Whitespace legal?

Phrancis

We've never had it, so... who knows

If it works, probably I would wager

Hosch250

OK, I'll do that next.

I found a compiler online.

That will take a while, though.

Mehrad

@Phrancis you decide

int i = (byte) + (char) - (int) + (long) - 1;

Phrancis

That looks dreadful

Hosch250

What does it evaluate to?

7?

Phrancis

12:42 AM

Empty string? Oh wait, it's not JavaScript.

Mehrad

System.out.println(i);

will five you the output 1

Hosch250

I think byte, char, and int are all 1.

Mehrad

@Hosch250 well done

Simon André Forsberg

>>++++++[->++++++++++<]>
[->+>+<<]>++++++++++++.
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
+++++++..+++.<+++++++++++++++
<++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>.
>.+++.------.--------.<<+.

@Phrancis ^^

that took me eight minutes....

Mehrad

@Hosch250 delete the second guess before I take it back :P

Hosch250

12:43 AM

Oh, it counts bytes?

I actually meant 4 on the first, but it appears in counts bytes, not bits.

Phrancis

@SimonAndréForsberg You're crazy (in a good way)!

Mehrad

@Hosch250 can you explain the syntax ?

Hosch250

Sure can.

Mehrad

go ahead. I know no Java so convince me

Hosch250

Wait, not sure.

Simon André Forsberg

12:45 AM

@Hosch250 I wouldn't push it....

Hosch250

I thought that was C#.

Oh, yeah, Java.

C# is Console.WriteLine().

Hold on.

Mehrad

come on...

You can do better than Kary Perry in Super ball :)

Duga

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's asking for a code review. It would probably be more suited to codereview. — Simon MᶜKenzie 17 secs ago

Hosch250

I'm just testing something.

Mehrad

C# version for you

int i = (byte) + (char) - (int) + (long) - 1;
Console.WriteLine(i);

I am just so good in translating code in between languages. aren't I?

Hosch250

12:49 AM

Pfff.

Anyway, I don't know what in the world is going on.

Syntax I can explain.

mjolka

@Mehrad isn't is just the same as int i = (byte) ((char) -((int) ((long) -1)));

rolfl

@Hosch250 - personally I am not a fan of the esoteric crap-languages... and the only reason I reviewed Mat's question was to poke fun at it, but noone seemed to notice ;-)

Hosch250

Mathematically, the parenthesis are doing nothing.

mjolka

yeah i'm just making it clear that it's a series of casts

you can remove the +'s

Hosch250

As far as I can see, it is actually ignoring everything in front of the number.

I don't think it is casting.

mjolka

12:52 AM

it's definitely casting. if you change the middle - to + (int i = (byte) + (char) + (int) + (long) - 1;) you get Constant value '-1' cannot be converted to a 'char'

Mehrad

@mjolka good analysis

Hosch250

OK, nice job.

Oh, now I get it.

They are not operators like a + b, it is acting like (a) (+b).

So it is casting (+1) to a long.

rolfl

They are operators, but unary ones.

Hosch250

Yeah.

Then, it would be casting (int) (-(result))

Mehrad

aha

Hosch250

12:57 AM

If you try to use * or /, it doesn't work.

rolfl

There is no * unary... so it would not.

But, try with..... ^ ?

Hosch250

Nope, doesn't work.

If you're going the way of boolean operators, I don't think any of them will work.

rolfl

Sorry, I meant ~ not ^

Simon André Forsberg

@rolfl You should review brainfuck ;)

rolfl

Have you read my lolcode answer with 'sarcastic' glasses on?

Hosch250

1:01 AM

Yup, works.

rolfl

The answer should be ..... very small, not 1.

Hosch250

Yeah, it made it negative.

Simon André Forsberg

@rolfl I have. It wwwas funny. Whether it wwas a good revieww or not? Who knows?

Hosch250

> I only wish you used a better name than Frootz because it conflicts with Froot. The similarity is.... uncanny.

Simon André Forsberg

TTGTB here

Hosch250

1:03 AM

See you.

Good points, still.

rolfl

Huh, just noticed that ~ is not listed in the Java unary operators.... docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/nutsandbolts/op1.html

@SimonAndréForsberg s/knows/cares.../ ;-) Also, s/knows/knowws/

Hosch250

Well, my question isn't taking off the way I wished it would.

Would you all mind downvoting it to -3 so I can delete it and get a badge?

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Q: I IZ IN YR Mind UPPIN YR Crazeez

This program inputs a numbr in the range of 1-100 (inclusive) from one playr, and the second playr must gess it. Run it here: HAI 1.2 HOW IZ I GetNum I HAS A WatzNum GIMMEH WatzNum WatzNum IS NOW A NUMBR FOUND YR WatzNum IF U SAY SO HOW IZ I Gess...

number-guessing-game lolcode

mjolka

this is fun int i = (char) -~ (byte) -~ (int) ~- (long) ~- 1

Hosch250

@mjolka It prints 1.

Mehrad

@mjolka what did you doooo

Hosch250

1:07 AM

Now, does Code Review always improve it in production-style?

Mehrad

No... it prints □

Hosch250

I ran it on Ideone.

Because I have some golfed code that could be improved.

Mehrad

@mjolka explain please

Hosch250

I don't think we should allow this, though.

~ is a NOT operator (IIRC).

So, it inverts each bit, so 0 -> 1 and 1 -> 0.

mjolka

@Mehrad just putting unary - and ~ next to each other so they look like one operator

Mehrad

1:09 AM

don't even know what operator is this squiggly ~

rolfl

bitwise not. (complement)

Hosch250

1 min ago, by Hosch250

~ is a NOT operator (IIRC).

Mehrad

~ is the destructor :O

Hosch250

Anyway, would you accomodate me and give me four downvotes so I can get a badge?

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Q: I IZ IN YR Mind UPPIN YR Crazeez

This program inputs a numbr in the range of 1-100 (inclusive) from one playr, and the second playr must gess it. Run it here: HAI 1.2 HOW IZ I GetNum I HAS A WatzNum GIMMEH WatzNum WatzNum IS NOW A NUMBR FOUND YR WatzNum IF U SAY SO HOW IZ I Gess...

number-guessing-game lolcode

rolfl

@mjolka - interesting the difference between -~1 and ~-1 ....

Hosch250

1:10 AM

I'll delete it so you can have your votes and reps back.

Mehrad

@Hosch250 as you wish buddy

Captain Obvious

-1

Q: Don't understand what Xcode's Warning wants me to do

I'm trying to implement AdMob's share banner across all view controllers. I made a separate class for shared banner called GADBANNER. I imported GADBANNER.m code ( below) to ViewControllerTWO.m. I included GADBannerViewDelegate in ViewControllerTWO.h and GADBANNER.h yet i'm receiving a yellow war...

beginner ios

mjolka

@rolfl nice catch

Hosch250

@nhgrif You around?

I know you like to DV lolcode

I did show the problem. " Incompatible pointer types sending 'ViewControllerTWO' to parameter or type 'GADBANNER < GADBannerViewDelegate >*'". That's the warning Xcode is showing me is the problem. Also, the code DOES work, i'm just still getting a warning. However, even with this warning the simulator loads the game. — Guest 50 secs ago

We don't accept problems, already stated...

Mehrad

@rolfl ~(FFFF FFFF) vs -(FFFF FFFE)

BAM. brain explozutsion

rolfl

1:18 AM

Oh, I knew why, but I got confused by:

11 mins ago, by Hosch250

@mjolka It prints 1.

but it does not, it prints 0.

(or, it should...).

12 mins ago, by mjolka

this is fun int i = (char) -~ (byte) -~ (int) ~- (long) ~- 1

Mehrad

for me it prints "□" in linqpad. Why Why Why?

Hosch250

Either I made a type, or Ideone was fooling me.

rolfl

@Mehrad You cast it as a char still?

it needs to be printed as an int, with the value 0

Mehrad

var i = (char) -~ (byte) ~ (int) ~ (long) ~- 1;
 Console.WriteLine(i);

rolfl

Note that there's a final implicit conversion from char to int in the origininal

your var there is a char, not an int

(whoo hoo to implied C# var definitions) boooo boooo boooo

Mehrad

1:20 AM

I thought linqpad can C#

rolfl

@mehrad, you have:

var i = (char) -~ (byte) ~ (int) ~ (long) ~- 1;

but we have:

int i = (char) -~ (byte) ~ (int) ~ (long) ~- 1;

Hosch250

Success	time: 0.1 memory: 320256 signal:0

1

rolfl

the var/int at the start of the line is critical.

Hosch250

At Ideone it prints 1.

ideone.com/CZblT0

Mehrad

I know that much :D

but thanks :)

Hosch250

1:22 AM

@rolfl What should I do here?

I did show the problem. " Incompatible pointer types sending 'ViewControllerTWO' to parameter or type 'GADBANNER < GADBannerViewDelegate >*'". That's the warning Xcode is showing me is the problem. Also, the code DOES work, i'm just still getting a warning. However, even with this warning the simulator loads the game. — Guest 6 mins ago

Mehrad

var i =  1;
 Console.WriteLine(i);

Hosch250

It is off topic still, but I'm stumped on what to tell him.

Mehrad

@mjolka good learning ... Now I know how to bitwise...

rolfl

@Hosch250 Argh, I missed the first - when I visually scanned the line.....

Hosch250

NVM, I responded.

@Mehrad I just deleted it. Have +2.

rolfl

1:25 AM

Downvotes on questions don't carry a penalty for the downvoter, just the downvote-receiver.

Hosch250

Oh, I thought once the OP had a certain rep level, they did.

Oh well, have your vote back.

rolfl

Downvoting an answer costs you 1 rep. Downvoting a question costs nothing.

receiving a downvote costs you 2 rep, regardless whether it's a q or an a

Mehrad

it cost me my friendship, mate

rolfl

^^^ that's the critical part.

Hosch250

You didn't want to DV it?

Did you want to UV it?

rolfl

1:29 AM

It had neither a DV nor an UV from me.

Hosch250

I know.

I wanted to get to -3 for the badge.

But, it was going no where, and I probably would have got upvotes tomorrow.

That badge is kind of hard to get here.

Mehrad

Is there a way in Github to get only this project without getting the whole Mobile-Samples?

github.com/xamarin/mobile-samples/tree/master/Tasky

rolfl

@Hosch250 I still do not have it.... ;-)

RubberDuck

Interesting and clever. I didn't realize that ORDER BY could be exploited that way. I'm looking forward to seeing what others have to say. — RubberDuck 1 min ago

nhgrif

@Hosch250 You don't need to ping me for things that are obviously off-topic...

Hosch250

1:34 AM

My question was on topic.

nhgrif

You linked me to an Objective-C question that's closed?

Hosch250

I just knew you liked DV'ing LOLCODE.

No, an LOLCODE question.

codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/79409/…

Deleted now.

rolfl

493

A: Is there any way to clone a git repository's sub-directory only?

What you are trying to do is called a sparse checkout, and that feature was added in git 1.7.0 (Feb. 2012). The steps to do a sparse clone are as follows: git init <repo> cd <repo> git remote add -f origin <url> This creates an empty repository with your remote. Then do: git config core.spars...

nhgrif

What's wrong with your vowl kys?

> This program inputs a numbr in the range of 1-100 (inclusive) from one playr, and the second playr must gess it.

Hosch250

Oh, I was LOL-styling it.

Mehrad

1:38 AM

@rolfl that's beautiful. was on my ways to Bingle it ... Thanks

nhgrif

if (finalpoints << 0) yup...

if (finalpoints /*code that does nothing*/)

Hosch250

I'll have a gold in 1-2 days.

nhgrif

@rolfl Do we not migrate to Stack Overflow?

rolfl

We do, occasionally. Any question in particular?

nhgrif

I did show the problem. " Incompatible pointer types sending 'ViewControllerTWO' to parameter or type 'GADBANNER < GADBannerViewDelegate >*'". That's the warning Xcode is showing me is the problem. Also, the code DOES work, i'm just still getting a warning. However, even with this warning the simulator loads the game. — Guest 27 mins ago

Wait, don't migrate yet.

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Q: Don't understand what Xcode's Warning wants me to do

I'm trying to implement AdMob's share banner across all view controllers. I made a separate class for shared banner called GADBANNER. I imported GADBANNER.m code ( below) to ViewControllerTWO.m. I included GADBannerViewDelegate in ViewControllerTWO.h and GADBANNER.h yet i'm receiving a yellow war...

beginner objective-c

but let me see if it's not a duplicate.

Actually, it should be migrated either way, and then if it's a duplicate closed as such.

Apparently, closed duplicates are actually a relatively good thing.

rolfl

1:44 AM

They are....

Deciding whether a post should be migrated is a time-consuming thing.

I tend to work on the "don't migrate unless asked" philosophy.

Most CR questions with bugs found are poor migration candidates anyway because they are not concise questions for SO.

nhgrif

I just asked him to re-ask his question himself.

rolfl

That works often too.

nhgrif

This one is a good SO question, I think (but maybe duplicate).

Hosch250

I'm still in the hot network with my LOL.

rolfl

Duplicates are fine. The bigger problem with that specific question is that it is an unregistered account.

(can you see that it's unregistered, or is it a mod-thing?) See: codereview.stackexchange.com/users/64312/guest

Hosch250

1:47 AM

It says he has an account here.

nhgrif

rolfl

Yes, but does it say:

Captain Obvious

-1

Q: PHP $_SESSION History - Unexpected $_SESSION Results

I am trying to create a history of requested URI's (upto 3) for two purposes Login page and Error Logging. My problem is the Session is written and the values are set yet i can not retrieve the values in it upon a refresh. The use of an Array is to manage the quantity of max values (not written i...

php session

rolfl

Unregistered... yeah.

nhgrif

Man, Cmd+Shift+4 is probably my favorite think that Windows doesn't have but Mac does.

rolfl

1:47 AM

That measn they have a temporary login only (not linked through google/facebook/etc.

often, unregistered accounts are only used to circumvent question-bans on SO... ;-)

Hosch250

What do you think of this? meta.stackexchange.com/a/247919/245368

Trying to get more ~~reps~~ feedback.

nhgrif

I don't like the red squiggly line under the weekly rep leader.

rolfl

Migrating a question from an unregistered user would be defeating other things, and the user would likely never be able to link the account to SO anyway, so it's flotsam.

Hosch250

@nhgrif That was speelchecker.

nhgrif

Also, there's a double colon.

Hosch250

1:50 AM

Fixing.

200_success

Best performing tag is likely to be the same all the time.

Hosch250

I mean, per user.

But yeah, it would likely be the same most the time.

nhgrif

It would probably be good to highlight undervalued posts (questions and answers that are good but got a very few number of views/votes).

Hosch250

Yeah.

nhgrif

Highly upvoted things are already highly visible.

rolfl

1:52 AM

29 secs ago, by nhgrif

It would probably be good to highlight undervalued posts (questions and answers that are good but got a very few number of views/votes).

nhgrif

That's the whole point of the way StackExchange works.

rolfl

interested to hear how you would do that.

Hosch250

I just went by the current newsletter.

And added a couple things.

nhgrif

I was talking about the newsletter.

rolfl

I know, but, how would you identify undervalued posts?

chicken and egg problem, unless I am missing something?

Captain Obvious

1:54 AM

0

Q: Coroutines in C

Please have a look at this little coroutines library ccoro: http://sam.nipl.net/code/ccoro I'd appreciate a general code and style review, and your kind comments! ccoro.h /* * ccoro - Coroutines in C * Sam Watkins, 2009 * this code is public domain * * ccoro uses setjmp and longjmp to a...

c multithreading library

nhgrif

Statistically, you could look for posts with a high upvote to view ratio.

But with a relatively low number of total views.

rolfl

vote:view ratio, that's an interesting one..... low views but high relative votes.

Hosch250

But above a certain number.

rolfl

Hard to do that for answers.....

Hosch250

1:3 would be an excellent ratio, but it could have three views.

nhgrif

1:55 AM

But that only works even remotely nicely for questions.

rolfl

(views are tracked at the question level).

nhgrif

It's harder to pin down answers. Views aren't tracked individually for answers.

But you could even have two categories.

1) Presumably good but relatively unnoticed unanswered questions.

2) Good/undervalued questions with answers which also have a respectable number of upvotes.

So, a question with 3 upvotes, 2 answers with 3 upvotes each, and 10 total views, might make for a good candidate.

rolfl

This is becoming a better specification for a 'dashboard' than a 'newsletter'....

nhgrif

And of course, you apply a human filter at the end.

Because it's important that the questions/answers are also interesting.

And that's going to be purely subjective, but the former criteria helps limit the pool down.

rolfl

New feature: Stack-n-Dash - posts and other items of interest, with the ability to dismiss items from that.

Hosch250

1:59 AM

Just subscribed to the newsletter.

rolfl

feature available to trusted users only to reduce overhead.

nhgrif

So, can you write VB.NET and C# code in the same project and compile it down to a single binary? I know obviously you can't intermix the code within a single file, but can I have one file in VB and the other in C# and they can see and use each other?

finally found it...

Duga

If this is working code, this belongs at codereview.stackexchange.com — ivan_pozdeev 1 min ago

Hosch250

Come on over!

Incoming question.

Mehrad

2:17 AM

You're a questioning machine today @Hosch250 aren't you?

Hosch250

No.

Captain Obvious

2

Q: Pset1 greedy for CS50 Harvard course

The goal of this code is to take dollar or cents input from the user and give out minimum number of coins needed to pay that between quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies. If this code can be shortened, how would one do it? #include <stdio.h> #include <cs50.h> #include <ctype.h> #include <math.h>...

beginner c homework

Hosch250

Just hanging around watching view counts go up some.

Earlier, anyway.

Got the badge now.

Mehrad

@nhgrif what is this env that you can do both again?

@Hosch250 Okay...

Hosch250

That isn't my question coming in.

nhgrif

2:22 AM

@Mehrad I don't know. I'm asking if it's possible. They're both .NET, so I figured that meant something...

Hosch250

Yes, you can do both.

I've never done it myself, though.

Mehrad

@nhgrif kk

nhgrif

0

A: Pset1 greedy for CS50 Harvard course

The first thing that sticks out to me is indentation. But I'm going to recommend some other changes, so I'll address indentation last. Let's give our variables some better, more descriptive names, and let's declare our constants as constants. And since we're taking in a floating point number f...

Hosch250

You didn't address indentation.

nhgrif

Fixed, thank you.

Mat's Mug

2:30 AM

@nhgrif In theory, yes. In practice, you'll have a solution with multiple projects - keeping the VB away in its own library ;)

nhgrif

Well... what if we've got about a billion lines of VB code, and my boss just quit and I want to start writing C# but don't want my first project to be rewriting a billion lines of code.

Hosch250

5 votes, better save them for tomorrow.

Give me a job this summer.

Only, I don't know VB.

I could figure it out.

Mat's Mug

@nhgrif Your C# can happily use any of the VB types

nhgrif

Can it go both ways?

I feel like I just turned in homework for a class at Harvard...

Mat's Mug

So you make a C# project in the same solution and reference the VB lib. Sure can go both ways, but ... circular references won't build!

nhgrif

2:35 AM

They can't compile to the same binary? I can't have a DLL that is composed partly of VB and partly of C#?

Mat's Mug

I think you can, doesn't mean you should

Actually I'm pretty sure you can have that

nhgrif

What are the advantages of writing in C# versus VB anyway?

(I can write Objective-C/Swift project that compiles into a single binary...)

Mat's Mug

VB syntax is fugly

nhgrif

So it's just syntax?

You know... we have a lot of places that use Or instead of OrElse... but it doesn't seem to matter. But when people write And instead of AndAlso, it's problems.

Mat's Mug

VB & C# are pretty much equivalent, functionally.

nhgrif

2:37 AM

"I'm working on a crime story" is the new "I'm asking for a friend who's trying to murder people." :) — Jaydles ♦ 5 hours ago

Captain Obvious

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Q: AJAX form processing with HTML5 storage to prevent user data loss and filling forms out twice

After the Superbowl I repeatedly had to enter the same information in the the checkout fields buying a tshirt so I decided to write something to solve the problem. I'm also putting this on github in the next few days under the MIT license so use and abuse and if hopefully leave some feedback. I'...

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Mat's Mug

Well And just won't quick-exit, and there's no C# equivalent for that madness. VB has lots of shitz inherited from its VB6 ancestor

Jamal

@nhgrif Oh hi there, Gus Fring.

nhgrif

quick-exit?

Mat's Mug

Forgot the tech term...

nhgrif

2:42 AM

...

Mat's Mug

If the first part is true it will keep going till the end of the condition

nhgrif

short-circuit evaluation?

Mat's Mug

Oh wait that's or

Ah, yeah that!

nhgrif

and can short-circuit evaluate.

If the left half of an AndAlso is false, the right half isn't evaluated.

If the left half of an OrElse is true, right half isn't evaluated.

Duga

This type of questions is better suited for Code Review site. — PM 77-1 1 min ago

Mat's Mug

2:43 AM

Yes, AndAlso, but not And

Hosch250

@Mat'sMug C# does short-circuit when you use && and ||, so I've heard.

It does not short-circuit with & and |

nhgrif

You can't short-circuit an And because it's a bitwise operation.

Hosch250

Oh.

Just replace it with & then.

Mat's Mug

@Hosch250 & and | aren't logical operators in C#. "And" and "Or" are both logical and bitwise operators in VB.

Hosch250

Oh, how does that work?

It just guesses?

Mat's Mug

2:47 AM

Madness

Hosch250

Indeed.

I prefer to state which I want.

nhgrif

"And" isn't both types of operators...

Mat's Mug

In VB? if not, that's new.

nhgrif

Is there documentation that suggests it is both types of operators?

Mat's Mug

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wz3k228a.aspx

> Some of these operators can also perform bitwise logical operations on integral values.

nhgrif

2:50 AM

Oh. It operates as a logic operator if both halves are boolean...

Mat's Mug

Yup

nhgrif

Which is the same as saying that the bitwise operator treats a boolean true value as 11111111 and then does a bitwise operation...

whereas in most cases, true would probably look like 10000000 or 00000001

Mat's Mug

So you're really stuck with a billion-LoC VB project?

nhgrif

Yes.

It's not a billion... but it's an entire ERP system.

Mat's Mug

Oh wow

mjolka

2:53 AM

Dim Wow As Boolean = True

nhgrif

I've worked here full time since last January... and I know the code better than anyone else (there are only 4 total programmers, one of them, my boss, is quitting)

Do you want a job...?

Mat's Mug

So you got "promoted" :)

How much?

lol nah

nhgrif

If you're asking "How much?" then the answer is probably "Not enough."

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I don't mean that as global rule... just in this specific situation, I know that'll be the case.

Mat's Mug

My last job drove me nuts, and it was an ERP extension built in VB6 (and written by clueless preschoolers)

mjolka