The h Bar

ArtOfCode

00:21

@0celo7 Remind me where English originates, again? :P

Obliv

testing $x^2$

Bernard Meurer

00:50

Berkeley: denied

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

wtf

What about upen @BernardMeurer?

Bernard Meurer

@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ March 31st at 5 PM EST

Still have Cornell and Waterloo to go to

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

Still great institutions.

Bernard Meurer

Yeah, it's just that not getting into UCB put's more weight on those decisions

and I'm already on the verge of having a heart attack everytime I get an email :p

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer sorry about that bud

what places have you gotten positives from so far?

Bernard Meurer

01:00

@FenderLesPaul UCSD and VA Tech; Denied UCB, UCD, UIUC; Wait: GA Tech

And thanks man :)

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

you can always transfer from one to any of the others once you "get your foot in the door."

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer weren't you also applying to UCSB at some point?

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul I thought I was, but since I applied before my time at the h-bar I didn't go for UCSB (Don't ask me why, I didn't think through the UCs I applied to very well :p)

FenderLesPaul

Ah ok

well I don't know anything about VA Tech but UCSD is very good

John McGreevy is there

Bernard Meurer

Yeah I was very glad I got accepted there, and to Warren even

I'm just waiting for UPenn and Cornell mostly, they're my dream schools

FenderLesPaul

01:05

gotcha

are you doing physics?

I can't recall

Pallas

hey can someone please help me on this

i got this wrong

i don't get why

i changed my answer to stays the same

and balancing forces in the vertical direction

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul Engineering, I'm not good enough at physics to do physics :p

FenderLesPaul

Ohh

in that case John McGreevy being at UCSD probably won't matter to you haha

I don't know anything about Cornell Engineering

even after having been here for 4 years

out of the schools you mentioned I only know about Berkeley's engineering program

but that's mainly because it's Berkeley and I don't know shit about engineering haha

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul I already told you to print my picture and storm into the admissions office :p

Penn's engineering and Cornell's are both very damn good; specially computer engineering

A lot of people bitch about Cornell regarding being geographically isolated; how do you feel about that?

FenderLesPaul

Ah ok

I know some CS people here

they're very smart

I don't know any ECE people though

Pallas

01:10

can someone please help me with this? puu.sh/nSTn9/9831437bf4.png

please??

FenderLesPaul

I wouldn't worry about it being isolated there's still lots to do

Pallas

i really don't know the answer

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul It's pretty much the same

FenderLesPaul

and you're going to be so busy with work most of the time that you won't really have time to worry about being isolated

Bernard Meurer

@Pallas Someone will help you if they want to :)

Pallas

01:11

it's like first year general physics

FenderLesPaul

the only majors where you will have time to worry about being geographically isolated are business, architecture etc.

Pallas

im so confused though

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer plus the campus is absolutely beautiful

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul "Don't worry about isolation, you won't even notice with how hard you'll be working"

Now I feel so much better :p

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer it's true!

Bernard Meurer

01:12

Yeah I saw some pictures, the campus is absolutely beautiful

Pallas

wait lol, are we talking about Cornell engineering?

Bernard Meurer

Yes

Pallas

oh, lol i go to cornell engineering

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer well I don't know

if they're the same

Pallas

im completely serious

FenderLesPaul

01:13

the hardcore CS people I know are awesome

Pallas

what's your major?

FenderLesPaul

but I sat in on a CS class once

and the engineering kids had no fucking idea what was going on because of basic linear algebra

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul They aren't the same but they are very close; as in it's a slight focus change between CS and ECE

Hahahaha

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer oh I mean in terms of the students

Bernard Meurer

@Pallas I applied for ECE

or was it CS now

Pallas

01:15

ok, my major is CS

engineering sucks for CS

Bernard Meurer

Jesus christ, this application thing is killing me

Pallas

there's so many requirements that are uselss

you're better of doing arts in CS

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer if you get into Cornell

just do physics

Pallas

this school is so actually stressful

noo, don't do physics

FenderLesPaul

you'll have so much more fun

Pallas

01:15

not in engineering

yeah, you can only do applied physics in engineering which is just really not worth it

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul You'll need to work pretty hard to convert me; Computers are the one thing I found I was good at in my life so far :p

FenderLesPaul

I don't know anything about Cornell engineering unfortunately haha

I've only ever gone into Duffield to study when I'm bored

Pallas

blackboard.cornell.edu/webapps/assessment/take/…

someone help me do this

FenderLesP: lol, do you go to conrell?

*cornell

FenderLesPaul

@Pallas yep!

Pallas

lol same

wait, what year?

FenderLesPaul

01:17

Senior, I'm graduating soon

Bernard Meurer

I applied to ECE yeah

papa bless

Pallas

oh nice. im a frosh

ECE is so hard

FenderLesPaul

Ah

fun stuff

Pallas

no, not really. it's just been really stressful and shit grades

expect to not get an internship Bernard if you come here

FenderLesPaul

most ECE people seem to get bad grades because they don't know how to study properly

they just study the way they did in high school

Bernard Meurer

01:18

Okay, you two

Pallas

because you get a B+ for trying, and dumbasses at liek Dartmouth get an A- for turning on their computer

Bernard Meurer

Tomorrow you'll both meet, go to the admissions office and make them accept me :)

FenderLesPaul

lol it's not that bad

Pallas

yes it is

cornell engineering is bad

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer there's different admissions for the different interior schools

Pallas

01:18

you have to take 1910. i died in 1910. fucking farbod.

FenderLesPaul

since I'm in physics my admissions was through arts and sciences

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul ;-;

FenderLesPaul

engineering has a different admissions :(

Pallas

then you have to do this shity physics quiz that im doing right now

you do NOT want to do engineering here. it is shit. it sucks. then you have to take 2090 which is like the worst thing

FenderLesPaul

What class?

Bernard Meurer

01:19

2090?

Pallas

chemistry 2090

so fucking bad

FenderLesPaul

I mean for physics

Bernard Meurer

Yikes, chemistry

Pallas

oh 1112

fulbright?

FenderLesPaul

ah

gotcha

Pallas

01:20

Fender, you wanna help a bro?

Bernard Meurer

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't transferring ECE->CS supposedly easy(as in, not the hardest)

Pallas

please

Bernard Meurer

@Pallas Honestly dude, don't ask people to solve your homework

Pallas

it's not that bad. like digital logic is is transferable to 3410 and i think you still need to take 2110, 2800, etc

FenderLesPaul

I'm pretty bad at physics in all honesty

Pallas

01:21

arent you a physics major? this is dumbshit freshman physics

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul Got where he is just because of his shoulder

Pallas

what?

Bernard Meurer

He's a shoulder model

Pallas

are you waitlisted on ga tech?

Bernard Meurer

Yep

Pallas

01:22

i got into ga tech, idk. it was safety for me. that's weird that you're waitlisted

did you get into CU? or no

Bernard Meurer

so roughly a 20% chance of getting in, not focusing on it

CU?

Pallas

cornell

Bernard Meurer

Still waiting :)

Which is why I'm telling you to raid the admissions office :p

Pallas

it suucckkks. I actually really dislike it.

Bernard Meurer

You see, I'm Brazilian, mostly anything looks really awesome to me

FenderLesPaul

01:23

Ah the stress of being a freshman

good times

Pallas

like cornell sucks. i wish i went to caltech or berkeley.

FenderLesPaul

gooood times

lol if you think cornell is stressful

Bernard Meurer

@Pallas You got into both of those?

Pallas

the weather is so much better and you dont deal with these frat guys

yeah

FenderLesPaul

you would have a ball at Caltech

Cornell is lightweight compared to Caltech

Pallas

01:24

yeah, but i was like, CU is ivy and caltech has like 900 people

consiering my shittiness at this physics, i would have died there. i would have died at ga tech too.

Bernard Meurer

I'll be totally honest, I prefer UPenn to Cornell by bit

just because I applied to the double major in CS and Economy there

Pallas

lmfao guesisng correctly like a fucking boss

u penn is a shit school if you're not in wharton

Bernard Meurer

which I'm really pumped about

@Pallas M&T is a pretty nice program dude

Pallas

unless you do economics in wharton. you not getting a job on wall street.

Bernard Meurer

That's what I just said

FenderLesPaul

01:26

@BernardMeurer given his prose and his general attitude I would say just ignore his comments :)

Pallas

and like, wall street jobs aren't even worth it.

lol, i make this school look bad

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul I'm smarter than to take ill based criticism :)

Pallas

i swear, im actually a lot more intelligent than this

Bernard Meurer

Meh, I dunno what I want to do with my life, maybe try and go to research in computing

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer are you into topological computing?

or quantum computing

Pallas

01:28

oh, you want to go to grad school? yeah, don't go to cornell. your GPA will drop so hard....

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul Dunno what that is yet, maybe I'll like it :)

@FenderLesPaul I'm in love with quantum computing

Pallas

quantum computing is not worth it. the current technology...it's just not worth it right now. you won't do any meaningful research. it's not advanced enough

like really trust me on this. im actually in CS. the current time frame for quantum computing is not now.

Bernard Meurer

@Pallas Now you're just talking garbage and I suggest you don't comment on what you don't know about

Really? I was on google's QC research lab last month, they are doing some pretty cool stuff

Pallas

lmao ok. whatever. believe what you want or whatever your echo chamber tells you and then you can find me in like 4 years when you realize now is not the time for qc

Bernard Meurer

go figure

Pallas

01:30

and yeah, they are, but what im saying is that qc won't hit the market for another like 25 years

FenderLesPaul

Did you go to Microsoft Station Q?

Pallas

and that's with luck.

FenderLesPaul

they have some cool research going on there

Pallas

no, i didnt need to. do you know how many physics cs majors i know that wanted to do qc and switched because the current tech is stagnant

it's not that there's not enough research or that it's not funded enough, it's that they're running into problems that they haven't been able to solve for decades and still can't solve.

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer but quantum computing is really very much in a theoretical phase right now

Pallas

01:31

the technology is stagnant.

FenderLesPaul

and I think has more research potential in the physics side than CS side atm

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul I'm aware, but that's also cool

Pallas

lol, no, trust me it won't be when you try to look for a research thesis and it's the exact same as your 200 other colleagues

Bernard Meurer

@Pallas If the technology is stagnant isn't it perhaps my duty to put work towards changing that? Considering I find the subject interesting

Even if that doesn't amount to anything

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer I don't think you should encourage him/her

just learn to ignore

Bernard Meurer

01:32

@FenderLesPaul A skill I'm yet to master, good advice

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

^

Pallas

Fender: lol, are you really going to tell him that it's not?

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

Relax pal

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul Is the microsoft station Q at Cornell? I've been dying to see one of DWave's machines

Pallas

there's seriously no real future in qc. it's just cool. it's like everything else that is trendy and cool. it's like rocketships and virtual reality. it's trendy

FenderLesPaul

01:33

It's at UCSB @BernardMeurer

it's part of KITP

research.microsoft.com/en-us/labs/stationq

Pallas

people don't even bother trying to develop post quantum encryption schemes because they don't care because they know there's not going to be a functional qc any time soon

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

Stop ditching other people's interests. @Pallas

Pallas

im just saying...

it's the truth

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

So stop saying

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul Oh I was at a QC lab at UCSB, but when I did go there it was some grad people working and I didn't see any microsoft labels

and they used linux :p

FenderLesPaul

01:35

doesn't surprise me haha

I'd find it hard to imagine grad students doing actual research use microsoft

Pallas

Bernard, also, how do you know this already? it's like one article in scientific american will tell you so

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer if you got UCSD we can visit each other!

although Berkeley is still far away from UCSD

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul Windows is rather unusable for development purposes, which is a shame really

@FenderLesPaul You're picking Berkeley after all?

Pallas

lol why do you say that?

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul I love driving :D

Pallas

01:36

windows is functional...

i worked on it

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer I think so yeah (regarding Berkeley)

Bernard Meurer

(I drove LA-SF and back when I was in Cali)

FenderLesPaul

plus driving along highway 1 is awesome

Bernard Meurer

Nice choice, both were great schools :)

It really is! It was a super cool trip to make

FenderLesPaul

I had to turn down UChicago

which was heartbreaking

Bernard Meurer

01:38

The visit right?

FenderLesPaul

Yeah but mainly because not even 2 years ago I would've accepted UChicago on the spot

but my interests have changed quite a bit since then

so I guess the heart breaking part is holding on to past interests that you loved a lot but knowing that you're going to be doing something different

and turning down something that would've actually been perfect a couple of years ago

:)

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul I can see how that's tough to deal with, like "3 years ago me would love this" feeling

FenderLesPaul

especially given that when I was a freshman I wanted to work for Bob Wald more than anything haha

yeah exactly that feeling

but as consolation, UChicago kids are pretty weird

lol

they gave me a dope ass scarf for free though

Bernard Meurer

Hahahaha

I got free chinese candy when I was at UCSB

and Daniel felt guilty for taking candy from strangers

FenderLesPaul

I wonder what I'll get from Berkeley, UCSB, and MIT

more free scarves!

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

01:43

Perhaps a hat ;P

FenderLesPaul

I have too many beanies already :(

I already have a Berkeley beanie from years ago

Bernard Meurer

You got into MIT?

FenderLesPaul

so that won't get me excited!

yeah I got into MIT a while ago

Bernard Meurer

I don't like beanies :p

FenderLesPaul

not going there though

they don't really have anyone working on more contemporary aspects quantum gravity

just hardcore string theory people

and I hate string theory research

Bernard Meurer

01:44

@FenderLesPaul I'm adding you to my list of promises for new messiah brb

FenderLesPaul

lolol

Bernard Meurer

Isn't string theory supposed to be sorcery?

FenderLesPaul

It's...something

Bernard Meurer

Was it here that someone was saying gravity is a myth?

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer All myths have a grain of truth in them ;)

Bernard Meurer

01:46

@ACuriousMind Are you telling me the Loch Ness moster exists?!

FenderLesPaul

I wish I was in the 70s

so I could do classical GR research and still have a future

:/

world's smallest violin starts playing

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer The "grain of truth" there is probably that someone ate grain tainted with ergot and then went to the lake.

Bernard Meurer

Hahahahaha

@ACuriousMind :D

@FenderLesPaul I wish I was 8 days into the future

FenderLesPaul

sleep a lot

ACuriousMind

Get drunk

Bernard Meurer

01:49

@FenderLesPaul Ha, hahahahahaha, sleep! Silly you, like I could do such thing

@ACuriousMind I've been working on that daily, but my wallet is disagreeing with my wishes

ACuriousMind

Ah, I keep forgetting not everyone can afford drugging themselves :P

FenderLesPaul

I just want spring break to be over

so fucking boring

also doing research when not at school is impossible

I get distracted every 3 seconds because of the abundance of food

Bernard Meurer

Research cocktails?

ACuriousMind

Enjoy this period of life where you still have extended periods of downtime

FenderLesPaul

I really don't like downtime

Bernard Meurer

01:52

@ACuriousMind Will you pay for my drinks if I go to ~~zoidberg~~ Heidelberg?

ACuriousMind

One of the reasons I'm not in a hurry to complete my masters

FenderLesPaul

it makes me feel like I haven't accomplished anything and the boredom is excruciating

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Yes, but you have to drink what I order

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind You don't strike me as a Jäger guy; what do you drink?

and will make me drink as well

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Ew, my Jäger days are past.

Bernard Meurer

01:55

@ACuriousMind How old are you again?

ACuriousMind

Depends what bar we go to, but I generally prefer dark beers, and whisky and absinthe.

@BernardMeurer 23

Jäger was what we drank in school, both my flatmate and I can't stand the stuff anymore

FenderLesPaul

wtf you're 23?

ACuriousMind

@FenderLesPaul Why is that astonishing?

FenderLesPaul

I thought you were some kind of wise sage

you sound like one

but now I find out you're only 2 years older than me

ITS ALL A LIEEEEEE

Bernard Meurer

How are you guys so young, you're a grad student right @FenderLesPaul?

ACuriousMind

01:59

I've always been "old for my age" :P

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer not yet

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind never had absinthe, don't like whisky, Love dark beers with all my heart

FenderLesPaul

I will be entering grad school in late August!

ACuriousMind

I only turned 23 this month, actually

Bernard Meurer

@FenderLesPaul That makes it better, got worried for a second there :p

Pallas

01:59

lol y'all are still here

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