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6:11 PM

@EmilioPisanty :P

6:26 PM

Icking is a municipality in the district of Bad Tölz-Wolfratshausen in Bavaria in Germany. == People == Anita Augspurg, lived in Icking from 1916 until she fled the nazis Dieter Borsche, actor. Lived in Icking in the beginning of the 60s. Bernhard Buttersack, painter, died in 1925 in Icking. Karl Wilhelm Diefenbach, painter. Klaus Doldinger, jazz musician. O. W. Fischer, Austian, actor. Lived in Irschenhausen in the 60s. Gert Fröbe, buried in Icking in 1988. Max W. Kimmich, scriptwriter, lived in Icking until he died. D. H. Lawrence, English writer, lived in Icking in September 1927. Golo Mann...

^ pretty good

Poing is a municipality in the Upper Bavarian district of Ebersberg, lying 18 kilometres (11 mi) east of central Munich. == Geography == Poing is approximately 20 kilometres (12 mi) NE of Munich and is serviced by the Munich S-Bahn (S2) and MVV Bus systems. Poing has two constituent communities named Angelbrechting and Grub. Poing is bordered on the east by Anzing and Markt Schwaben, Pliening in the North, Kirchheim to the West and Parsdorf to the South. == History == It is believed that Poing has been settled for more than 5,000 years. The ending on the community’s name suggests a Celtic origin...

Is that the German slang for sodomy?

@0celoñe7 sounds like, yeah

...

Talling is an Ortsgemeinde – a municipality belonging to a Verbandsgemeinde, a kind of collective municipality – in the Bernkastel-Wittlich district in Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany. == Geography == === Location === The municipality lies some 20 km east of Trier and 8 km from the Mehring interchange on the Autobahn A 1. The municipality lies in the middle of the Hunsrück, whose highest elevation is the nearby Erbeskopf at 816 m above sea level. Talling belongs to the Verbandsgemeinde of Thalfang am Erbeskopf, whose seat is in the municipality of Thalfang. == History == Beginning in 11...

not reaaaaally there

I don't get it

6:28 PM

Tating is a municipality in the district of Nordfriesland, in Schleswig-Holstein, Germany. == See also == Eiderstedt peninsula == References == == External links == Media related to Tating at Wikimedia Commons...

not really there either

@0celoñe7 I'm scraping for *ing towns

I did find

Daiting is a municipality in the district of Donau-Ries in Bavaria in Germany. == Archaeopteryx - Daiting Specimen == An eighth, fragmentary specimen of Archaeopteryx was discovered in the late 1980s in the somewhat younger sediments at Daiting. It is therefore known as the Daiting Specimen, and has been known since 1996 only from a cast, briefly shown at the Naturkundemuseum in Bamberg. Long having been missing and therefore dubbed the 'Phantom', it was purchased by palaeontologist Raimund Albertsdörfer in 2009. It was on display for the first time with six other original fossils of Archaeopteryx...

kinda fits before Kissing, but not really

ah

and then there's this

Titting is a municipality in the district of Eichstätt in Bavaria in Germany. It is home to Brauerei Gutmann, which was founded in 1707. == Mayors == 1996-2014 Martin Heiß (CSU) since 2014: Andreas Brigl (CSU) == References... ==

So German towns could get flagged on Stack Exchange chats

Wonderful

@EmilioPisanty It seems you are either easily amused or really bored ;)

Maybe both

Just have a

Fucking Hell is a German Pilsner or pale lager with an alcohol content of 4.9%. It is named after the village of Fucking in Austria; hell is the German word for 'pale' and a typical description of this kind of beer. The beer's name was initially controversial. Both the local authorities in Fucking and the European Union's Trade Marks and Designs Registration Office initially objected to the name. It was eventually accepted and the lager is now sold internationally. == Production == Fucking Hell is not brewed in Fucking, but was originally brewed in the Brauerei Waldhaus, a brewery in the Black...

@ACuriousMind mixture of the two

Wait, what group meetings have food @EmilioPisanty

6:34 PM

@Loong I hope the name is not the reaction one has after drinking it :P

@0celoñe7 Those of rich groups :P

@ACuriousMind There are groups that can afford weekly catering?

No idea, I think the most I've seen is groups having a weekly rotation where they take turns bringing cake

@ACuriousMind Hm, a colleague still has a beer crate of it. Maybe I should try.

@0celoñe7 I've been in groups that spend a reasonable amount on catering for weekly meetings

not quite to full lunch, but close

I must be in the wrong business

6:37 PM

You are

@ACuriousMind Ok genius, what's the best way to dry my socks

I was hit by Noah's flood

Uh...put them on your clothesline? :P

@ACuriousMind I'm at work

also who has a clothes line in 2017

@0celoñe7 100% of Barcelona

@0celoñe7 Put them on the radiator

6:40 PM

@ACuriousMind A...radiator? In America? In summer?

::shrug:: It's not my fault you people are poorly equipped!

I could put them in a furnace

That is probably a terrible idea actually

@0celoñe7 they'll definitely not be wet afterwards :P

I should have brought sandals

This was a terrible idea

I can't put my shoes back on

This was all a terrible idea

You'll have to live barefoot in the institute from now on, then

6:43 PM

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I swear to god it smells

Have you asked anyone else if they smell it, too?

@ACuriousMind Yes

they said it was a plastic-chemical smell from the glovebox

aka "glovebox musk"

Don't leave your wet socks in the glovebox.

@Loong they are on top of my shoes

Ugh. Either I'm doing something wrong with basic algebra or this paper has obvious sign mistakes

6:51 PM

Assuming you're always breathing the correct mixture of gasses (or liquids?), what's the survivable depth limit of a diving bell? AKA, theoretical depth limit of a moon pool?

by the grace of Baby Jesus

Actually no

It's broke

@Semiclassical I usually switch like a dozen times between believing in my mistake and believing in the author's mistake before setting on "Eh, it's just a sign." P

@0celoñe7 Baby Jesus is broke?

@ACuriousMind Spectrometer had a hard crash, now the microscope light is flickering

Lol

@Semiclassical How is this funny

6:59 PM

@0celoñe7 You call your spectrometer Baby Jesus?

@Semiclassical One of my grad school professors gave us assignments to re-write the argument found in various published papers during the course of a semester. They whole exercise was a set-up for giving us a well cited paper by a well known figure with a sign error halfway through.

@ACuriousMind I was hoping that by the grace of Baby Jesus, the spectrometer would be alright

But the light is flickering!

It's morse code, it's trying to talk to you

I had to work the whole thing four times to convince myself that I was right and the great man was wrong. Took hours.

Imagine being the person who told A. Wiles about his mistake

7:01 PM

Lesson: just because it's published doesn't mean it's right.

Maybe he found it himself, I don't actually know.

I like Knuth's style on the matter.

Paying for correct errata is classy.

This one is a lot closer to the surface. Which on one hand makes me think I cant possibly be missing something, but it also gives the nagging feeling of "they can't possibly have missed this "

@dmckee Hmm?

^ ::chuckles::

7:02 PM

@0celoñe7 If you find an error in one of Knuth's books, he sends you a check

@dmckee that's actually pretty good

Most people don't cash it, but frame it and display it

you comfortable sharing a reference?

@ACuriousMind Why not both?

Knuth reward check

Knuth reward checks are checks or check-like certificates awarded by computer scientist Donald Knuth for finding mathematical errors, or making substantial suggestions for his publications. The MIT Technology Review describes the checks as "among computerdom's most prized trophies". == History == Initially, Knuth sent real, negotiable checks to recipients. He stopped doing so in October 2008 because of problems with check fraud. As a replacement, he started his own "Bank of San Serriffe", in the fictional nation of San Serriffe, which keeps an account for everyone who found an error since 2006...

7:04 PM

@ACuriousMind I'm pretty proud of the erratum I found in Gradshteyn & Ryzhik

Cue @Danu telling us about the time he found a mistake in the Feynman lectures

And here I sit, no erratum to my name :/

@ACuriousMind You've never found a mistake in a book?

Not even a small one?

@ACuriousMind mathtable.com/gr/gr_acknowledgments.html =P

they even presciently tagged me Dr

@0celoñe7 At least I never bothered to notify anyone about it, but I can't recall finding something that was definitely an error and not possibly caused by different conventions

@ACuriousMind Huh, wow.

7:06 PM

Then again, I have to remind you, I haven't read many books :P

@ACuriousMind Huh, I didn't know that.

Okay, who are you and what have you done with Ryan?

@ACuriousMind I am his socks.

The water from the heavens has given me life.

So you admit to being a sock account? :P

::blows raspberry::

7:09 PM

Umm

@ACuriousMind I found a typo in the preface of Rudin's harmonic analysis book

Does that count?

Perhaps

@ACuriousMind But more seriously, I found a mistake in a paper for my project -- a pretty grave one. My advisor and I have been working for weeks trying to fix it.

They perform a change of variables in hopes of applying an ODE theorem they prove in the appendix, but they never check that the resulting ODE has $C^\infty$ coefficients -- in fact I don't think it always does.

Hm, I only found a mistake in the IUPAC Blue Book. It's in the list of corrections now.

at least the spectrometer results make sense

sadly

I got a couple of minor bugfixes into ROOT, but I've never found a meaningful error in a book that someone else hadn't got to first.

7:18 PM

@BernardoMeurer

Kendrick Lamar - LOYALTY. ft. Rihanna

released today

Bernardo Meurer

7:35 PM

@0celoñe7 Dope

@dmckee Are you around?

7:57 PM

@BernardoMeurer youtube.com/watch?v=Bk9dcbbE94Y

hello

i am rather close to murdering my TI-89

that's a pretty bougie calculator

yeah, it was my mom's when she was in highschool, so i inherited it.

i'm making a custom menu for it, but you have to hand type it out as a program. it's a bit painful.

Anonymous

@heather wow...lasted pretty long :P My high school calculator is already half damaged

Anonymous

with a broken screen

8:09 PM

@Blue all mine's needed was a change of batteries =P and the upload cable is semi-lost

but those have more to do with the 10-15 years between me picking it up and my mom last using it

8:37 PM

@ACuriousMind

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wtf

even amazon thinks I need PhD set theory

The Raiders of Las Vegas

No, amazon just wants your $131.89.

The Raiders of Las Vegas

9:00 PM

subscription-journals-are-doomed-data-analyst

Anonymous

@TheRaidersofLasVegas Journals should start putting ads rather than using paywalls. Will benefit them (via ad revenues) as well as the readers. Anyway, most paywalls can be broken through if someone is determined enough :P

The Raiders of Las Vegas

Yeah, that's one way.

@Blue I'm reasonably certain that the subscriptions from universities bring a multiple of the revenue they could hope for with ads

You mustn't forget that the main target of journals aren't individuals, it's libraries

Anonymous

@ACuriousMind Ah, that's also true. So maybe it's better this way only...SciHub for those can't afford and university subscriptions for students

@ACuriousMind I wonder how much they make off of individual sales.

I can't imagine people actually pay $35 for papers.

9:07 PM

I think some might if their university's budget covers it? Like, you tell the librarian you need that article and they buy it? I'm not sure.

Anonymous

Anyway, I believe that academic papers should be made free to public. Don't yet have a good idea for implementation so that it benefits both the readers and the publisher

I don't see how you're going to do that without violence. The publisher/publishee relationship is voluntary.

@Blue We've had this discussion multiple times now, but one question is what the publisher actually does that would warrant them benefitting from the paper.

The Raiders of Las Vegas

9:21 PM

@Blue Another Journal Flips

Anonymous

@TheRaidersofLasVegas @ACuriousMind Hmm..I hadn't thought about the issue of publishers charging more money that what they deserve.

Anonymous

Perhaps in future we could make the author-reader relationship direct without a publisher in between. Since soft-copies are much more common than hard-copies I doubt we need publishers any more. But then again, I haven't thought about this much. There might be drawbacks of doing that.

9:38 PM

@ACuriousMind @EmilioPisanty FROM THE FIRST EDITION!!'

#soproud

Anonymous

@Danu What was the error you found in Feynman's lecture ?

@EmilioPisanty Oh, interesting. I'm in that list, too, and also got tagged "Dr." even though my degree wasn't complete at the time.

9:58 PM

@rob are you, now

I think that's the most identifiable thing you've said about yourself yet

I'm one of the Dr. R.'s

ah, figures

that does narrow it down, though

... to 23 people

Some of my answers about parity violation are probably enough to identify me for folks who know that literature. But nobody's called my office yet.

@rob yeah, I remember you saying something about some answers that you claimed identified you, back during the election, but I never managed to pin it down between two candidate names

@EmilioPisanty At least one of them is wrong

10:03 PM

@rob you don't say

@EmilioPisanty "I never managed to pin it down between two candidate names" - I'm now imagining you in front of a classic string theory (careful, TVTropes link) "conspiracy board", PSE posts and papers all over it, trying to figure out the identities of PSE posters.

@rob Or knowing where you went to grad school...

@ACuriousMind Careful?

@ACuriousMind well, this was during the election, and rob's comment sounded like almost-but-not-quite-enough information

@0celoñe7 Yeah, that together with my interests is probably enough.

so I was curious

10:06 PM

@0celoñe7 It's a trope in itself that people tend to get stuck on that site :P

@rob aha Dr. Remigijus Leipus

I'm not trying to be a secret agent, but my name is searchable enough I'd prefer to keep it off of chat.

If you think you've got me, call my office.

@0celoñe7 Also, wasn't that one of the Dark Arts instructors in Harry Potter?

@rob that was Lupus

I...think

@0celoñe7 Remus Lupin

Ah, close!

10:14 PM

@0celoñe7 I think that lupus is an autoimmune disease that Dr. House's patients never actually got

@rob Indeed

But Remus Lupin

easy mistake

Rob is a pretty common name.

@skullpatrol There's basically always someone with that name in the same room as me

There are a lot of variations of it too.

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@ACuriousMind Something went horribly, horribly wrong.

@rob Are you in your office?

10:29 PM

@0celoñe7 Am

@0celoñe7 Very nice, super sleuth

Office hours?

@rob thanks

@SevenSidedDie see above image

@Loong now that's a distinguished list to be a part of.

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I think it's fine

10:44 PM

What have you done?

@ACuriousMind I tried to edit one mesh and somehow broke another. Dunno what happened...

@0celoñe7 How go the white dwarfs?

@HDE226868 dealing with numerical instability

the equations aren't good

In certain regions, or throughout the entire interior?

Results are probably going to be crappy nearer to the surface.

@HDE226868 the equations are singular at the center

@HDE226868 well, that's the part I'm interested in

I've had to make the step size really small, and I'm looking at literally hours of computations now

I need to learn somthing like C to do really high-performance computing.

Mathematica is just an awful language and MATLAB only uses 1 core

10:54 PM

@0celoñe7 Consider a composite polytrope to get slightly better results. Most single-index models perform poorly at the surface and outer regions; two indices might be better. Also possibly more computationally expensive, but more accurate.

No comment on the central singularity in the equations.

@HDE226868 I'm not interested in the physics per se. I actually want to solve more general equations, these are a convenient starting point.

@0celoñe7 Ah, I see.

@HDE226868 But if I get qualitative information about how, say, $\gamma$ affects the shape of the solution, I would be happy.

I am hoping for a critical $\gamma$ at which things "go bad"

Not sure what that will look like

@HDE226868 It's actually very interesting. Singular ODEs are mysterious things for which there is no general theory

@0celoñe7 Things get pretty bad at $n=5$ ($\gamma=6/5$), which is where you find yourself with an infinite radius. But I assume you're not going that far.

@HDE226868 Do you have a proof that that gives an infinite radius?

Infinite radius in Newtonian or full GR?

11:02 PM

Newtonian.

Also, the solution for $n=5$ is analytical. I assume the relativistic solution is not.

@HDE226868 I'm looking at full GR but wouldn't mind having something to compare my numerics to!

Thanks in advance, I'm going to make dinner now

Enjoy. I'll do some looking around.

hello

11:46 PM

@JohnRennie also a big fan of Hossenfelder/ blog & think her GR+QM unification writing/ bkg is colorful/ unrivalled. thought her criticism of a Nature article was quite over-the-top. am a bit annoyed at the criticism of top notch experiments/ results/ papers by others in here, a few in particular. think comes across sometimes as jaded & bordering on disrespectful. cf positive psychology psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athletes-way/201505/…

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