The Awkward Silence

ankii

00:33

well not a great thing to return to after 32 hours.

Extroverted Main Man

01:52

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Q: How To Ask Someone To Be College Apartment Roommate

So, I'm a freshman and looking to move into an apartment for next year because it's cheaper to do so. I met this girl who is pretty funny and likes to save money whenever she can. We met 2ish weeks ago and talk on and off every day. I think she could be a good apartment roommate but I don't want ...

avazula

05:38

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Morning everyone

ankii

07:35

Morning!

JAD

hi

Ælis

08:45

Hello people :)

ankii

@Ælis Hi! left an edit in the queue for one tag.

ignore the dual ping

Ælis

@ankii I have already review it ;) (but not on the queue, I saw the question with only one tag and then see that you bit me to adding tags on it :p )

ankii

;p

CaldeiraG

09:01

Morning o/

A J

09:11

@CaldeiraG afternoon!

Ælis

@AJ Don't you have a Monday joke? I could use some fun and heart warming stuff ^^

A J

Sure, let me check my bag.

> A student visits the principal's office
The principal asks: "What is your name?"
The student replies: "D-d-d-dav-dav-david."
The principal asks: "Do you have a stutter?"
Student answers: "No, my dad has a stutter but the guy who registered my name was stupid."

Ælis

x)

A J

;D

ankii

09:29

XD

CaldeiraG

XD

avazula

XD ?

^^

A J

XD

ankii

10:25

Aug 16 '18 at 15:17, by avazula

xD

chat.stackexchange.com/… <- search results of XD by Ava in this room. xD

avazula

11:17

I'm a cheerful person. Can't help it :)

Extroverted Main Man

13:23

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Q: How to make a gift without resulting creepy?

This month I'm going to visit London, how Pokèmon fans knows for a very limited time in London will open a Pokèmon center and I'll be there in that period. I'm very happy for what was a lucky coincidence (I booked the flight before the announcement) and I want to share my happiness with my Pokèmo...

friends online-interaction gifts

Extroverted Main Man

13:43

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Q: How to tell a friend that you are not okay with some of her habits without drama?

I have been being so patient for years without saying anything. Now I feel I can't stand it anymore but I don't want to ruin our friendship. I really want to tell her that I'm not okay with some of her habits but I don't want drama. Please give me suggestions. Thank you.

friends conflicts habits

TheTinyMan

Good morning chat room! ^.^ How is everyone?

Ælis

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Rainbacon

@TheTinyMan Very tired, and yourself?

TheTinyMan

14:21

@Rainbacon Allllso very tired, as it happens. My NP asked me to make my homemade soup right at my bedtime last night because she weas feeling sick.

Rainbacon

Hope you don't catch what she has, and that she starts feeling better!

TheTinyMan

Thanks, I appreciate that! :-)

Rainbacon

How's the new job treating you?

scohe001

Holy hell, what happened to SE over the weekend?? :(

Rainbacon

14:37

@scohe001 Some very bad things it would seem

Though EmC did ask that we refrain from discussing it here

scohe001

Yea I just saw that starred message. I'll drop it

Suffice to say that my mood matches our weather out here--it's been thunder storming like crazy all weekend

Rainbacon

I wish we'd get some storms, it might cool off here. Supposed to be 90 on Wed

scohe001

Oh yikes

I thought summer was over

Or at least that's what all the pumpkin paraphernalia is telling me

Rainbacon

I mean, we went apple picking on saturday. That's definitely a fall activity, but nobody told the weather

scohe001

Ooh apple picking sounds awesome. You guys making some pies?

Rainbacon

14:41

Yep, had my first slice after dinner last night :) and there are enough apples in the freezer to make 3 more

scohe001

Daaaang. I'm jealous. Apples are one of my favorites (and Finley's too)

Rainbacon

The only problem with apple picking is how long it takes to get there. We were gone from home for 8 hours, but only spent 1-1.5 at the orchard

scohe001

Oh wow. It's that far away??

Rainbacon

Yeah. All of the orchards are upstate. So it's about an hour and a half out of the city on the train. Plus it takes 45 minutes to get to the train station where the trains going upstate leave from. Then you have to get a cab to the orchard, once you've done your picking you have to reverse the process, but also have to wait for the next train, which only runs once an hour

scohe001

Holy moly and you guys took public transport to get there?! No wonder it took forever. I'm sure people were looking at you funny on the train while you were loaded up with apples lol

Rainbacon

14:45

It wouldn't be nearly as bad if we drove, but we don't have a car (and I don't want one)

Not really, most of the people who take that train on the weekend do it to go apple picking

scohe001

That's kinda funny then. I guess there were a lot of apples on that train

Rainbacon

Yep

On an unrelated note, I got some basic functionality (theoretically) working for the comment explorer. When you load it, it should retrieve all of the comments and then display a graph of number of comments per day (It's not actually doing this due to some weird CORS errors)

scohe001

Ooh do you have it deployed somewhere atm?

Rainbacon

No, just running locally

Which is why I'm confused by the cors errors

scohe001

Ahh gotcha. Well if you throw it up on Github pages, lmk ;)

Rainbacon

14:50

You would think that localhost and localhost match, but apparently not

scohe001

Yea wait...

Rainbacon

I think it's because the api and web server are running on different ports

TheTinyMan

@Rainbacon Not too badly. I still feel a little behind in terms of what I feel like I should have learned by now, but eh, that happens. How's your job situation these days again?

Rainbacon

Still looking for a new position. With each passing day I feel more and more open to compromising on some of what I'm looking for (most likely the tech stack).

TheTinyMan

Sounds like that's pretty crappy. :-( I hope you find what you're looking for.

Rainbacon

15:02

Honestly, at this point all I'm really looking for is to be challenged in the right ways. I get challenged every day at work, which is good, but the challenges are all about managing people and frankly I don't want to do that

I want to be the best engineer that I can be, and my current position will never allow me to do that

TheTinyMan

15:20

Yeah, definitely sounds like you're on the wrong path.

Rainbacon

On the bright side, I have an initial phone call with another company this afternoon

And I'm going to the hiring event mentioned in the latest SO blog post

TheTinyMan

17:24

Nice! Fingers crossed for ya! :-)

ElizB

I hope everyone's day is going okay. :)

Rainbacon

17:56

Seems quieter than usual in here today

Ælis

@Rainbacon You think? Monday always seems quiet to me (in fact, I find Friday to be usually more active)

Rainbacon

Hmm, I was thinking it was the opposite, but when I went and looked at the room's typical activity, it appears that mondays are slower

Ælis

Maybe Monday are slower from an European point of view and Friday from a USA one?

Also, my IPS answer seems to be doing very well. I like that ^^ (I'm too use to ask question, I don't know how it feels to answer anymore :p )

ElizB

18:22

I'm noting I'm not as chatty because of many issues happening. Also crunch time with data entry, i have to enter a bunch of notes into the software here called NetCil it's made for independent living centers... very tedious.

due today at 5pm. I'm here to take a few minutes breather for my brain

Rainbacon

@Ælis Ooh, I haven't answered in a while either

@ElizB Good luck with your data entry

ElizB

@Rainbacon Thanks :) I'm trying to keep spirits up while doing data entry but it's not easy

Ælis

@Rainbacon Darn! Now Kate Gregory is ahead of us for the rep gain this year!

Rainbacon

Yeah, I noticed that. I need to fix that

Em C

this Monday has been especially busy for me so far - spent the morning building a demo for a meeting, then lunch, then the meeting.. and now it's just about time for another meeting :P

Rainbacon

18:30

@EmC I wish I was that busy. My entire team had 12 points assigned for the entirety of our 2 week sprint. We finished 9 of those points on Friday, and the other 3 are blocked by another team

Our sprint ends next Tuedsay

Ælis

@Rainbacon Ouch, that sound boring :/

Rainbacon

Super boring

Especially since I keep hearing the narrative that there is far more work to be done than people to do it

I did have a job interview that went (I think) well. They want to move forward

Ælis

If they want to move forward, what makes you feel it didn't go well?

avazula

@Rainbacon Yay! party

Rainbacon

I don't know yet if I want to move forward. I'm going to talk it over with Mrs. Bacon tonight

It would be a very different experience for me

They currently have 1 engineer (she's the person I interviewed with) and she is planning to leave at the end of the year

So I would go in, learn the ropes, and then be the only engineer (they are a very young startup)

Ælis

18:44

Would you also be the only one who knows about computers? (so, will you be the "computer guy"?)

Rainbacon

I don't know

There are certain things about it that appeal to me, like getting to have more say in what I'm working on, but at the same time, being the only engineer is a scary prospect

Ælis

I don't know how it is in the USA but, in France, "engineer" is mostly a title that doesn't say much. I know I would be more afraid of being the only "computer person" than the only engineer. But I guess things are different oversea, right?

Rainbacon

Well, if I'm the only engineer then it means I am on call for any and all issues with the site. Like, if someone's computer froze they wouldn't call me, but if the site started returning 404's at 3am they would definitely wake me up

Ælis

19:35

@ankii "Could you add details of how you used this in the past, or some other references? I believe you're aware of the citation policies?"

might be better

It's sound a bit rude/abrupt right now

ankii

@Ælis I was not sitting/standing and typing with my left hand.. xd. Will update it

5 minutes passed by

Ælis

@ankii "lying" :p

You could still delete and post again :)

ankii

Also, they have ~8 posts, some accepted answers. They would have known by now.

I am always confused by this word... lying

and 2 minutes passed by \o/

interpersonal.stackexchange.com/posts/23047/revisions The response to your comment on Roommate question.

Ælis

@ankii Probably but still. Also, I wouldn't want people from the outside think that we are unwelcoming and your comment might have them think that

@ankii Yeah, I saw. It's not enough IMO but I don't feel like commenting more on this one

ankii

yeah I agree.. If OP doesn't care or simply agrees, the question will anyway be closed.

by a final vote

Introverted Meta Man

19:46

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Q: Let's team up, work together, moderate together!

As some (many?) of you have read it, there's a lot going on about SE network, staff, users and moderators. Let me be really clear on this one: I'm not pointing fingers or taking any side. This is NOT about discussing and arguing about who's right or wrong. But, as the *** might hit the fan, and ...

discussion

ankii

@Rainbacon Is chat query-able by SEDE?

El'endia Starman

@ankii Nope. At least, not SE's...

scohe001

@IntrovertedMetaMan I really like this. We're a tight knit community and sticking together and helping each other is really what we need right now.

El'endia Starman

@ankii For what it's worth, I made TNBDE specifically to have something like SEDE, but for The Nineteenth Byte (another chat room on this network).

Ælis

@scohe001 Not sure it will change anything in people behavior (I know I won't moderate more), but the idea behind it is still nice though ^^

ankii

19:51

@El'endiaStarman I thought we could have a weekly activity graph.. I Like graphs. Active users, no of messages/ length of messages etc.

Rainbacon

@ankii closest we have is this

scohe001

@Ælis I know there's been a lot of "Boycott moderation! Go on strike!" going around, and I don't agree or disagree with it, but at the end of the day, I'm here because of you guys. This place is only fun because of the community, and I hope we don't lose sight of that with everything happening. It's that sentiment that I appreciate in the post :)

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ankii

@Ælis I have vacations coming.. can't help the boredom. I am simple guy, I am bored, I visit SE.

@Rainbacon so we're at peak hours of a day.

Ælis

@scohe001 <3

Also, with @EmC nice answer, this will surely hit HNQ. So yay for the rep I'm going to have! :p Also, since it's not really controversial, I expect it to be (almost) pleasing to moderate ^^

ankii

Just quickly appreciating the really cool tool by @El'endiaStarman

Em C

20:00

@Ælis haha thanks! I hope so although I can't moderate too much now that I've answered ;P

I am not sure if it'll apply to the OP's situation, but I felt like I couldn't really comment without it being an AIC, so .. if it doesn't help them maybe it'll work for someone else

Ælis

For what it's worth, I found your answer really interesting and almost like a ""frame-challenge"" (in the: "here is a way around your problem")

ankii

could we frame challenge the questions with without being creepy?

italics is the new bold.

scohe001

@ankii what are you thinking?

Em C

@ankii like..? "frame challenge: it's almost halloween, you should totally go for extra spoopy"

scohe001

LOL

ankii

20:05

asking why do you think it is creepy?

it can give hints about how to solve the problem itself maybe

Em C

ohh, yeah if you think that what the OP is worried about is not actually something they should be worried about, that's fine (as long as you explain your reasoning, of course)

ankii

we have 146 questions with the word. how many questions do we have in total?

let me check on SE.com

Ælis

@EmC x'D

Em C

@ankii 3,324 according to /questions tab

Ælis

@ankii That sound more like a question for comment than an actual answer

ankii

20:08

ah 3.3k on se.com/sites and clicking on the popup.

@Ælis yeah in comments, such an answer will cause a lot of harm..

Ælis

I'm glad you said this. I'm not a huge fan of answer asking "metaphysical" questions :/ I find them to often be unintentionally rude to the OP (like "what you believe is valueless/totally wrong/utterly stupid")

ankii

@EmC will keep an eye out.. (Halloween) on future questions. let me check the question you answered once again

oh okay.. this one passes the test. ;)

country still required.

Em C

@Ælis oh that's a good point. I was imagining an answer with more of a "reassuring" tone earlier and wasn't thinking of this possibility

Ælis

IMO, saying "I was afraid of the same thing once, but bla bla bla" is fine. But otherwise, there is a lot of room for things to be nasty :/

Rainbacon

20:25

@scohe001 that's an interesting take on providing backup :)

scohe001

I figured I'd try bending the rules a little and seeing how the community responded ;)

But "I did this and it sucked. Don't be like me. Here's what you should do to avoid those mistakes" should be kosher. I think.

Rainbacon

I think that it is ok in the context of the other answers that are there, though I think it could reasonably also just be a comment under Ælis answer saying "Yeah, this is good because I didn't do it and it sucked"

Overall though, I think it's fine as an answer

Ælis

@scohe001 I definitively believe saying "I did this and it sucked" is a valuable answer. I even believe that it's written somewhere in your help center/faq that this is valid

scohe001

@Rainbacon I think if I left that comment, it'd be wiped from the face of the earth in a few seconds :p but I really only left an answer because I felt it was different enough from Ælis'

Rainbacon

Apparently it worked out for the OP

they accepted your answer

scohe001

20:32

Yea I'm about to drop a comment to tell them to wait to accept for another 24hrs

Ælis

@scohe001 Oh, your answer just got accepted! I must say I'm a bit jealous but your suggest way of doing things definitively sound better than mine ^^

Rainbacon

@Ælis if you want I can flag scohe's answer as needing more backup so the OP will accept yours instead ;)

Em C

@Ælis yeah, that sounds familiar ..

Rainbacon

^^ in before rainbacon gets a flag ban

Em C

hahaha

Ælis

20:34

@Rainbacon Ahah x) Nah, that would be mean :p

scohe001

@Rainbacon Lol get out of here :p

Rainbacon

That's ok, scohe has a pig to comfort him

scohe001

That's true. And since we built him a couch ramp, we've been getting aaaaaaaall the snuggles

Ælis

Pff...

Stop bragging @scohe :'(

(jk)

Rainbacon

our cat's been kind of snuggly recently, but then yesterday she bit me so who knows what's going on with her

scohe001

20:37

@Ælis hehe come on out to Texas and you can get some piggy snuggles too ;)

Rainbacon

Better idea, don't go to Texas, it's really hot there

Ælis

@Rainbacon I was going to left this room crying because everyone was so mean to me, but then I read the second half of your comment. I'm better now, thank you :p

scohe001

@Rainbacon hey it's mid-70's out here all week during these storms. Speak for yourself :p

Rainbacon

@Ælis I'm glad you could find comfort in my pain ;)

Random question about the bots. How do they get around the chat rep restriction?

Ælis

@Rainbacon I believe mods can invite someone in chats, even if they don't have enough rep?

scohe001

20:44

@Rainbacon I believe it's as simple as this: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/63296/the-closet?tab=access

Em C

@Rainbacon I think they explicitly have write access

.. what scohe said

scohe001

.. what Em said

Em C

no u

scohe001

no ur face

Em C

o:

.. is "ltac" another bot?

scohe001

20:45

Oh that's a nice face. I take it back

Em C

hahah

hmm re: the latest meta I'm sure been a main meta post on this, if not on IPS..

scohe001

Looking at their history of posted messages it looks like a user account that's sometimes used as a charcoal test bot

Introverted Meta Man

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Q: Is it alright to delete a answer and post a different one?

I just realized I answered a question wrong, because I totally misread what the OP said and also I interpreted wrong one of the other answers. So my current answer it is actually totally wrong. So I just deleted it. However I would like to post another answer, this time correct, in the sense tha...

discussion answers deleted-answers edit

Rainbacon

I feel like I've been super unproductive today

Em C

@scohe001 ahh okay. those Charcoal folks are alright ;)

Ælis

20:49

@Rainbacon Well, talking with you (and scohe and EmC) in here brighten my day. So at least your TAS chatty was productive :p

Rainbacon

I get the feeling that my manager wouldn't be too happy if my only productivity was on IPS

Ælis

Ahah, true that :p

ElizB

I just finished ALL my data entry. wow. what a sprint. My eyes are falling out

Rainbacon

Good job!

Ælis

@ElizB :O That sounds scary!

scohe001

20:54

@Rainbacon we could help you communicate that to him/her in a frictionless way tho :)

ElizB

haha i think when @El'endiaStarman sees me he'll see my facial expression like this 👀🤪

Ælis

"I think you should write up an answer with that" -> Then delete it and write a new one? (sorry for this terrible joke, I couldn't resist :p )

Em C

@ElizB hahah, I'm imagining something like those joke glasses: media.giphy.com/media/l41Yjsfd9LYklUTaE/giphy.gif

scohe001

Lol the better question is: Should I follow the rules around deleting my old meta answer and writing a new one from my old answer? Or the new one?

ElizB

@EmC hahaha

Ælis

20:59

@scohe001 You lost me, I'm now looking like ElizB with the eyes thing :p

scohe001

Lol I went too meta

Ælis

:o My IPS rep is 8889! Quick, I need to downvote someone! :p (cc @Rainbacon )

scohe001

Damn, an upvote in 30 seconds. Either y'all are fast readers or someone trusts me too much :p

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