Ye Olde Hat Shoppe

Andrew Li

2:00 AM

@David Creating one doesn't auto-add two things

Oxygen is a cool font

David

@AndrewLi yes, true.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@AndrewLi link?

Alexander O'Mara

Why are we flagging those messages?

Samuel Liew

brb lunch

Andrew Li

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ In the google doc

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:01 AM

oic

Andrew Li

@AlexanderO'Mara Which ones?

Alexander O'Mara

A bunch are being flagged in the star testing room.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

why? what's offensive?

Andrew Li

For abuse?

Rob

No idea why they're flagging - I just declined all

I have a feeling the blue feet one is getting a 'potential duplicate' comment upvoted a few times

Or - flagging a duplicate to a question with x amount of dupe links

Hammer doesn't seem to count

Saiid

2:04 AM

Maybe editing a few times and getting more downvotes each time?

Rob

If someone wants to help test my theory (and later close the question): stackoverflow.com/questions/6644403/…

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

how?

flag to close?

or just voet on the comment

Rob

Upvote the comment or VTC as duplicate

Not entirely sure

David

anybody have a software recommendations account?

Balarka Sen

Interesting theory tho

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:07 AM

@David yes

Volatility

Lol at OP's last edit

hahaha

Yes @David

lol

@AndrewLi It worked, but the linked user didn't. My guess is the answer needed to be written during WB.

Andrew Li

2:11 AM

@SamuelLiew Oh really!

Volatility

Oh, just got They Live

Alexander O'Mara

Trying to close this as dupe to test Bluefeet: stackoverflow.com/questions/22144892/…

Andrew Li

Now I just need to find a bounty question to answer

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Volatility how?

what'd you do?

Volatility

dunno :-(

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:12 AM

@Loong when were the other answers posted?

@Volatility what have you done in the last 15 minutes?

Volatility

It's definitely related to suggested edit reviews

Panda

Any idea what is 6 and 8,243,721?

Rob

I hope the hats aren't the cause for edits such as this

Andrew Li

@Panda Did you read the google doc? It's a sesame street reference

Ramanujan

@Panda numbers?

Panda

2:16 AM

@AndrewLi Yea, how is it related to Stack Overflow

Saiid

@Panda it isn't, it's just a hat

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

are we allowed to ask for votes on a good answer?

Panda

Any idea on how to earn it?

Andrew Li

@Panda That's what we don't know

I need an opinion - Should I leave a comment under the meta post with a view-permission link to the google doc?

Saiid

yes

Panda

2:19 AM

186

Q: Winter Bash 2016 - All Hats

I decided to start the traditional secret hats post, but instead of just another "here is how you get the secret hats" post, to also add in all the hats. There are two answers: one for the secret hats, and one for the regular hats. Some notes about secret hats: A secret hat for correctly gue...

This?

I added the link to the doc sometime ago

Andrew Li

okay then

Edit permissions or just view?

nitsua60

@AndrewLi view

make the link here edit-permission

Panda

I thought it's publicly allowed to edit?

nitsua60

maybe with a link in the doc to come here

(if that-all's possible)

Panda

Technically, you can replace the 'view' at the back with 'edit' to change accordingly

or vice versa

Balarka Sen

2:22 AM

I got Don't Wanna Taco 'Bout It and Elementary at the same time

huh

Andrew Li

@Panda It is public edit

Let's just keep it edit

Panda

@AndrewLi Yeah

Saiid

@BalarkaSen If you get Elementary, you'll get Taco along with it

the requirements are similar for both

Balarka Sen

I think Taco has to do with tags though.

Andrew Li

Guys

Rob

2:23 AM

It definitely does not

I got it without touching tags

Saiid

@BalarkaSen I have not edited a single tag

Andrew Li

Elementary, We haven't fully confirmed criteria right?

Balarka Sen

weird

Andrew Li

Why is there a spoiler?

Saiid

@AndrewLi We have. ~5 approved edits to old questions

nitsua60

2:24 AM

@BalarkaSen I didn't touch tags and got it.

Andrew Li

But how old?

Panda

@AndrewLi around 3 years

It's confirmed 5

Andrew Li

Fine. I'll edit

Panda

I edited 4 at first and it isn't awarded

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

5 edits, 3 years +?

Panda

2:24 AM

Yea

Saiid

I think taco is for edits made primarily of deletes, actually

nitsua60

Anyone good with SEDE here?

Saiid

SEDE?

Andrew Li

SEDE queries

nitsua60

(S)tack (E)xchange (D)ata (E)xplorer

Saiid

2:27 AM

oh

Rob

@nitsua60 Depends what you need

Andrew Li

Should I add spoiler for "This is Fine"?

nitsua60

It'd be good to build a user-parametered query on edits, with post date and date of last activity previous to edit, constrained to range from the beginning of Hatmas to specified time. So each user could put in when they got taco/elementary and we can compare good notes.

@AndrewLi yes

Panda

@AndrewLi Yup

Alexander O'Mara

This still needs closing: stackoverflow.com/questions/22144892/…

veryRandomMe

2:29 AM

so This Is Fine is confirmed then?

Rob

@nitsua60 SEDE is only updated every few weeks - that won't work until after hats are long gone unfortunately

Or few months, not sure

veryRandomMe

sweet

Rob

Either way, it's old information

nitsua60

@Rob Right--forgot about that. IIRC it's Sundays, but still....

Rob

Oh, didn't know it was that often. Then it'll be possible to do it next week :)

Alexander O'Mara

2:33 AM

Got They Live.

nitsua60

Also, are people still shamelessly farming "Amped Up" here? If so, I'll leave my dignity at the door (sheepishly) and ask for clicks.

Alexander O'Mara

Today's reviews for They Live (IDK what I did yesterday):
7 - Approve
2 - Improve
4 - reject & edit
2 - reject: no improvement
2 - reject: attempt to reply
1 - return: conflict

Rob

Perhaps it's a review on an extremely old/dead post?

Andrew Li

I guess so

Rob

Which makes it a bit more difficult to deliberately get

Andrew Li

2:34 AM

Or approve an edit that's on a very old post

Alexander O'Mara

That makes more sense.

5min ago, I did one answer from 2013

Andrew Li

Let me check mine

nitsua60

@AlexanderO'Mara An approval, or an edit you're saying?

Alexander O'Mara

@nitsua60 Reject and edit.

9min ago I approved an edit on a question.

Andrew Li

I approved one from 2013

Rob

2:38 AM

So, does anyone here without edit privs want to make a good edit to an old question, and link the review here?

Andrew Li

But in the end it got rejected and edited

Volatility

I don't think it's approve an edit on a very old post; I didn't do that shortly before I got the hat

Andrew Li

They Live?

nitsua60

@Rob Find me an old question to edit, I'll gladly help.

Volatility

I did reject one though, but I don't know whether that's it

yeah

Andrew Li

2:39 AM

Let me check your history

Alexander O'Mara

Brainz

veryRandomMe

If it's just moderate an edit to an old post, I should have gotten it I think

Alexander O'Mara

Why is my hat outdated here....

Andrew Li

@Volatility when did you get it?

2 hours ago?

veryRandomMe

Mine is too, takes time

Volatility

2:40 AM

after my last edit (don't know exactly when)

Alexander O'Mara

There we go

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

what's the elementary one for?

Saiid

@AlexanderO'Mara It's not

I see it

Andrew Li

ok

Alexander O'Mara

Yep, just fixed itself.

Andrew Li

2:41 AM

nice

Volatility

29 mins ago, by Volatility

Oh, just got They Live

Andrew Li

ok

thanks

Alexander O'Mara

2 to closure: stackoverflow.com/questions/22144892/…

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

what's the elementary one for?

veryRandomMe

stuff and things, I'm not sure

Andrew Li

2:41 AM

@Volatility Maybe it's just reviewing an edit on an old post

Panda

^ docs.google.com/document/d/…

Saiid

5 approved edits on old questions

confirmed 3 times

veryRandomMe

ok

Volatility

Maybe, although I think I did that before but didn't get the hat

Andrew Li

Link?

Rob

2:43 AM

@nitsua60 Looking for some old ones

veryRandomMe

I have had 11 hats for a very long time now, no 011

Rob

@veryRandomMe Took me about 30mins - just got it now

veryRandomMe

ok

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Saiid have to be approved ones?

nope!

veryRandomMe

I believe so

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:44 AM

non-approved work

oh wow

yes

awesome

I just got it and it was not-approved

so

Saiid

no they don't...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:45 AM

they do work

I just edited 5+ 3 year old (just over the limit) posts where I have insta edit privs

veryRandomMe

well insta edit is auto approval

Andrew Li

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ wait did it work?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah

got the elementary hat

Andrew Li

nice

Saiid

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ That's because you have the privs

duh

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:47 AM

oh, I thought you meant has to be approved by somebody else edits

Volatility

but no Taco? interesting

Saiid

I swear I remember you saying that exact same thing

Andrew Li

wait @Saiid you didn't get it?

Rob

@nitsua60 Found this question - with my proposed edit: dumptext.com/4lacdJbV/raw - Feel free to use your own update, though

Saiid

I mean major deja vu here, not just you repeating yourself

@AndrewLi get what?

Andrew Li

2:48 AM

Elementary

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Volatility yeah

5+ 3+ year old questions, insta edit privs

Saiid

@AndrewLi I've got it on now?...

Andrew Li

Wait what are we even discussing rn?

Saiid

who knows

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

just got taco!

all I've done is edit those questions

Volatility

2:52 AM

Nothing after you got Elementary?

nitsua60

@Rob okay, edited

Alexander O'Mara

That's strange, supposedly I got the Electoral gold badge on security SE, but I can't find it on my profile.

nitsua60

Here's the suggested edit

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Volatility yep

well, I started writing an answer and used the search function

can I have an upvote to test this is fine?

Rob

If anyone wants to attempt 'They live' - take a look at this edit request

nitsua60

2:56 AM

Oh wow, my first 4 pts on SO today. I live!

After being spoon-fed an edit =)

Rob

And now we wait..

nitsua60

@Rob So, you come here often?

Saiid

here's an edit request

nitsua60

For elementary, are we thinking 3 years is the creation date, or last activity?

Andrew Li

Anyone want to add an answer here for "This is fine"?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

3:00 AM

@nitsua60 creation

nitsua60

tx

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I got it for one with last activity about 2.75 years ago, creation date 3.5

Stephen Leppik

Just got the taco hat while grinding for Elementary.

Andrew Li

yeah

it happens

Rob

No hat for the edit

Andrew Li

3:07 AM

Dang

Alexander O'Mara

3:18 AM

SO seems less-active than usual.

Andrew Li

How so?

Wait. Does my email show up on the doc?

Rob

Nope

Andrew Li

Good

David

@AndrewLi you are doing really good with these secret hats.

Andrew Li

@David Nah. The anonymous peeps on the doc are the best ones

Just bring the community together and work together

David

3:26 AM

that too. makes you wonder who is editing that thing.

Andrew Li

I dunno

It got a makeover a few hours ago

David

@AndrewLi that is the spirit. now that we dont have any have for guessing trigger, no reason not to work together.

I saw

Andrew Li

I've never seen so many anonymous animals on one google doc'

David

:)

Rob

If anyone wants to win a winterbash somewhere - winterbash2016.stackexchange.com/leaderboard/…

David

3:29 AM

19 of them.

nitsua60

Okay, 5 edits, all on calendar-year 2013 posts. [twiddles for 4 minutes]

Andrew Li

@Rob :D

@nitsua60 are you waiting now?

Alexander O'Mara

How does starting a bounty impact re-capping?

David

@Rob next question is who uses a windows phone?

3

Andrew Li

^^^

nitsua60

3:29 AM

@AlexanderO'Mara you lose the rep immediately

Andrew Li

What is a 'windows phone'?

David

@nitsua60 sounds like that should work

Alexander O'Mara

@nitsua60 Yeah, but do I have to earn another say 100 points to cap?

David

@AndrewLi phone that run some windows Os, instead of Android

nitsua60

@AlexanderO'Mara Notably, if you'd rep-capped, then had 200 "unearned" ([0]) reputation, then set a 100-pt bounty, you're now down below the cap. And need to earn afresh.

Andrew Li

3:30 AM

darn. I wanted to use mspaint to draw a window on a phone. Forgot I was on linux

David

lol

nitsua60

@AlexanderO'Mara I did that earlier today. Had answered 4 questions, was sitting at 215, saw five more upvotes come in (50 "wasted" fake internet points), set a bounty, now at 115, only got back up to 180-somthing. =\

Saiid

gj, m8

David

hay @veryRandomMe , @X-27 adn @10Replies want to work on snaphat? you let me know what you are going to ask so I can answer within 30

Saiid

I could do that

Alexander O'Mara

3:34 AM

@nitsua60 Hmm, guess I'll wait till after 3-rep-caps to start playing the bounty games then.

Saiid

@David know much about whitespace?

Balarka Sen

I find the wording of the snapchat hat ambiguous. Does it mean, you only have to answer in 30 minutes and get a score of +3 and get accepted, or does it mean, you have to answer, get +3 and get accepted all inside 30 minutes?

nitsua60

@AlexanderO'Mara or live on the edge.

@BalarkaSen answer within 30. My accept came hours later, followed minutes later by the hat.

Alexander O'Mara

@nitsua60 Pfft, the edge is for people who like Internet Explorer.

Balarka Sen

oh cool, that's way easier.

David

3:35 AM

@Saiid sure do. but I'm a mod. We are so post to be above such tricks.

Balarka Sen

there's one that's working on that right now, so I can chillax

David

@BalarkaSen if it is same as last years, just answer the accept and votes cam come latter.

Saiid

@David As in the language whitespace?

David

@Saiid Oh, no. no idea

bleh

i seriously doubt there will be 8,243,721 of anything

Saiid

3:38 AM

And who cares if you're a mod, it's winterbash

lol

Andrew Li

Bye all. Going on an edit spree for a gold badgerino

Shhhhh...... I'm hunting badge[r]s.....

Saiid

@bleh Maybe question 8,342,721?

bleh

It's probably in correlation with 6, so

why are q1 2 and 3 about joel's data

and 5 redirects to 4

stackoverflow.com/questions/6/…

6

Rob

5 redirects to 4, because 5 is the answer ID

And 4 is the post id

nitsua60

Okay, for elementary: 5 edits to posts from 2013 (and '12). 4 edits to bodies, one only tag. No elementary for me.

Andrew Li

3:45 AM

huh

bleh

oh must be a deleted answer

Rob

Yep, it's deleted - you can see it here: stackoverflow.com/posts/5/revisions

David

@nitsua60 well that's stumped me. we must be missing something.

Andrew Li

I edited 7 old posts, 1 from '14, 3 from '11, 2 from '12 and 1 from '13

nitsua60

@David oh, whoops--one from '14 snuck in.

David

3:47 AM

I edited 4 from 2014 today, I can check my edits from the start of the bash.

Andrew Li

yeah...

That's why mine didn't work at first

@David Before '14 is the right time to edit it IIRC

Uh oh

I worded one of the criteria wrong

Saiid

Darn it, who edited that old question

!

spoiler isnt working

@bleh fixed

3:53 AM

@David It says added 2 characters but shows nothing?

I ninjad the edit

What a tragedy

lol

I can't read

There's a lotta homework to be done....

Saiid

3:54 AM

SO has 12 mil questions

David

@AndrewLi bleh went in and reedited his edit right after I edited it.

Andrew Li

ha

Saiid

edit suggest

Andrew Li

@Saiid reject. Doesn't really improve general readability

Saiid

Why not?

Andrew Li

3:58 AM

It doesn't improve readability.

Because it just replaces a few words

Understanding is not gained after edit

Eran

I answered a Tumbleweed question which got accepted. No Lifesaver hat. Do you think the answer requires an upvote? stackoverflow.com/questions/41100056/empty-list-android-studio/…

nitsua60

Alright, somebody sanity-check me? These five edits (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ) should qualify for elementary, yes?

Andrew Li

@Eran Positive it was a tumbleweed?

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