TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2012-08-21 (page 1 of 2)

Paulo Cereda

12:19 AM

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Q: How to create a PDF presentation for each available Beamer theme automatically?

Rather than changing the theme by hand and compiling it for each available theme, is there an easier way to do so such that I can get a PDF presentation for each available theme automatically?

beamer

I could write an interactive answer using arara, but the rule won't be semantically correct. The "right" code would be the one used for the upcoming 3.x series. :)

Harish Kumar

12:31 AM

@PauloCereda: That is a great idea. Atleast for version 3.x you should implement it.

Paulo Cereda

@HarishKumar I will. :) Brent suggested another list iterator called @{items}, so we can have % arara: createbeamer: { items: [ Rochester, CambridgeUS, Boadilla, Warsaw, AnnArbor ] }, with the rule pointing to pdflatex \def\mytheme{@{item}}\input{@{file}}. :)

Untested! :P

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda aren't you supposed to populate the list by looking at the filesystem beamertheme* ? (don't mention cricket)

Harish Kumar

@PauloCereda: When is the next interview?

Paulo Cereda

Bonus: with % arara: createbeamer: { items: [ Rochester, ... ], files: [ myfile1.tex, ... ] }, we have a cartesian product. :)

@DavidCarlisle Am I? :) Oops, back to the design. :)

@HarishKumar We still need one victm. :)

Harish Kumar

@PauloCereda: You can have many Martin Scharrer, Stefan Kottwitz, Hertbert, Heiko, Joseph, Ulrike... The list is big. It seems you have to net one of them fast.

@PauloCereda: Createbeamer idea is good. Love to have it with arara.

Paulo Cereda

12:48 AM

@HarishKumar I'm thinking of @JosephWright for the next interview. And then @Audrey. :)

@HarishKumar I'll try to write a nice rule for it. :)

Harish Kumar

@PauloCereda: Waiting eagerly for the date..... ;)

@PauloCereda: Please let me know when the rule is ready. I think it will be an awesome addition.

Paulo Cereda

@HarishKumar I'll do my best, I promise. :)

Harish Kumar

Harish leaves for a moment

Paulo Cereda

@HarishKumar Sure! :) We will probably have a test phase (RC code - release candidate) before releasing the GA version (generaly available). I'll keep you informed. :)

Harish Kumar

1:07 AM

@PauloCereda: Thanks. Very nice of you. Ah! I have a Brazilian also in that victim list to propose. ;)

Marco Daniel

8:20 AM

@PauloCereda Where's your version?

Costi

@DavidCarlisle Hi! I noticed there's a conflict between the memoir class and longtable

Joseph Wright

@Costi Is there? Example?

Costi

I am trying to figure out. My dissertation was in a report class up to now. I just changed the class into memoir and I am trying to see what the differences are.

@JosephWright if you have any suggestions I'd be glad to listen. I can see there are the chapter titles in the headers

Joseph Wright

@Costi What I mean is 'Can you provide an example showing longtable not working with memoir?'

Costi

8:38 AM

And also the appendices don't work right

I am going to provide an example

@JosephWright the risk of MWE is that you remove everything and the document starts working.

@JosephWright there must be something in my (full version) preamble that prevents the document to be compiled appropriately

Stephan Lehmke

@Costi That isn't really a risk, is it? Either the problem is solved immediately or you can describe precisely where the conflict lies.

Costi

8:55 AM

@StephanLehmke I deleted all the details in my preamble that would not make it a MINIMAL working example, and the example worked. Now I need to add back everything manually and try to find out the problem myself. I was writing here looking for help, though, and not to have to find the solution myself. You see what I mean?

Joseph Wright

@Costi The problem is that there is no 'general incompatibility', so we can't say 'oh, this is a known issue'

Costi

@JosephWright actually I have just found out: the problem is definitely not with the longtable but with the appendix

I have \usepackage[toc,page]{appendix}

! LaTeX Error: Option clash for package appendix.

David Carlisle

9:26 AM

@Costi ?

lockstep

Perhaps of interest:

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Q: Revival badges awarded for two answers to the same question

The description of the Revival badge ("Answered more than 30 days later as first answer scoring 2 or more") indicates that -- contrary to the Necromancer badge -- only one answer to a specific question may earn the badge. However, at tex.sx, Revival badges have been awarded to the answers of user...

bug badges

user19161

Sorry for bumping my questions. I am just trying to retag them the way I deem best. I'll continue with them tomorrow since I have used up my max today!

Costi

@DavidCarlisle sorry, no problem with my longtables, it was a mistake

David Carlisle

@Costi It's a general rule that any problems with any of my packages is always user error.

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lpdbw

Good morning to everybody! Is it bad style to answer one's own question? It sometimes happens to me that after a while and inspired by answers of other people I find a good answer to my own question (and prefer it to the other answers). In that case, if just for the sake of completeness, I think I should provide this answer! Is this OK or does it not comply with the Q&A conventions?

user19161

9:36 AM

@lpdbw It is not bad but at least wait a while.

user19161

The idea is to make this a good Q and A site so you can definitely answer your own questions.

user19161

But let others have a chance to answer too!

Costi

@DavidCarlisle you are the best, and I mean it. Thank you for your work and sorry for being so naive

lpdbw

@Jasper Loy: Sorry, what's the point in waiting? I mean, if I post my answer as soon as it came to me this is only to save other user's time ...

user19161

@lpdbw Hmm OK then. But I think the system may have some restriction on the minimum time, I don't know. You can try and see.

Joseph Wright

9:43 AM

@lpdbw There is a minimal time you have to wait, but self-answers are fine. For example, occasionally it's useful to post a question you know the answer to, so you can post a clear question and answer.

lpdbw

@Joseph: I am not sure whether this will happen very often. In fact, I don't know too many answers :-D

Jake

@JosephWright I don't think there's a minimum time constraint. If you ask a new question, you can add the answer on the same page (after checking the "Answer your Own Question" tick box). Maybe there are time restrictions for low-rep users, though?

lpdbw

Actually, I have never earned any upvotes for my own answers so far, so I don't think they are too valuable for the community ;-)

Joseph Wright

@Jake There certainly used to be a time restriction: perhaps the Powers That Be have altered this

Jake

@JosephWright Seems that users with less than 100 rep have to wait eight hours. With 100 rep, you earn the "Edit community questions" privilege, which also allows immediate self-answers.

Paulo Cereda

10:03 AM

@MarcoDaniel Still in my mind. :) I need to implement it first.

tohecz

Hi @Paulo !

Paulo Cereda

@HarishKumar Uh-oh. :)

Hi @tohecz, how are you? :)

tohecz

I'm just checking the pianos

I'm not much fine, the tempreratures here are around 39C (103F)

Paulo Cereda

Wow, too hot. :(

tohecz

I got a terrible headache

Paulo Cereda

10:08 AM

@JosephWright, @cgnieder: congrats, guys! :)

tohecz

so I didn't sleep well, I took Aspirin and overslept an important meeting :(

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Thanks, I think :-)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz: Oh. :( I always have headaches with extreme changes in temperature. :(

tohecz

(btw, a meeting where out university publishing house will confirm that they want me to be a journal graphical editor)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright speech, speech, speech, speech!

tohecz

10:10 AM

but the meeting will be in 1 hour so it's gonna be ok I think

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz oooh how nice! :)

tohecz

I just looked at the pianos

Paulo Cereda

Oh! :)

tohecz

the Yamaha seems fine, it has the good functions I expect from a good Yamaha

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Now is the winter of our discontent turned glorius summer by this sun of York ...

Paulo Cereda

10:12 AM

@JosephWright LOL

tohecz

(especially Graded Hammer, which you don't recognize until you play a piano with no GH)

Paulo Cereda

I heard about the GH before, people say it's amazing.

But I'm not sure if I ever played one with.

tohecz

I believe it is the thing that makes Yamaha feel more realistic than other brands

Paulo Cereda

Hm interesting. To be honest, I was impressed with Roland's Super Natural.

(I'm not sure this is the name they call it)

tohecz

I don't know how Roland works

With Yamaha, the trick is that the more left the key is, the weighter it is

Paulo Cereda

10:15 AM

Neither do I. My Roland is very old, so it doesn't have this SN feature.:(

oooh!

tohecz

The only thing that worries me is the output power: 2x 6W

Paulo Cereda

Hm I didn't pay attention to that.

The Korg was the one that impressed me the least. :)

tohecz

sorry, I'll have to look at the others later, I have to go in 10 minutes for the meeting

so cross your fingers xD

Paulo Cereda

hehe :)

@tohecz: don't worry my friend. :) Thanks a lot for your analysis, I'll probably get the Yamaha one (when I get some money :P ). :)

tohecz

yeah money, it is never important, it is only the 1st most important thing

Paulo Cereda

10:25 AM

:P

tohecz

we have a nice saying about it in Czech, but I'm unable to translate it to English

ok, I leave, good bye everybody for now!

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz: Good bye, my friend! Have a nice day! :)

cgnieder

10:46 AM

@PauloCereda Thanks ... :)

Paulo Cereda

@cgnieder speech, speech, speech, speech, speech! :)

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda With a help of a second tex-file it's very easy. I am at work with Windows and without TeX :-( but in the evening I will try something.

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel A machine without TeX?! Is that even possible?! :)

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda In my nightmares ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel: It's not difficult to implement a beamer matrix with arara as it is, but I think it won't be semantically correct, since I was going to exploit @{file} to act as a theme selector. :P For the next release, we will have @{item}, so things will be easier. :)

@MarcoDaniel LOL

Marco Daniel

10:51 AM

@PauloCereda Why every simple flag is possible

identifier: theme
flag: '@{value}'

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel Ah yes. :) But I was hoping a more lazier idea. :P

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda LOL

I think - TL:

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Q: How to create glossary entry with link to glossary and appearance in footnote?

I want each "first-time-used" glossary entry to appear in the footnote with its description and each "used" entry (the short term) being linked to the entry with its description in the glossary. I achieved the first point, but the second one is not always working properly. I have to "play" w...

hyperref footnotes glossaries links

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel After all, today is pre-ante-eve of Friday. :)

@MarcoDaniel Oh is that a stuffed squid? :P

Voted, btw. :)

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda Indeed -- party

Joseph Wright

@MarcoDaniel Agreed, based on last comment

Paulo Cereda

10:56 AM

►

Party!

Wait for the GEMA thing to strike again. :P

Patrick Gundlach

@PauloCereda they did it...

Paulo Cereda

@PatrickGundlach Oh. :(

Patrick Gundlach

... meaning that google and the GEMA didn't agree on money

Paulo Cereda

Oh no! :(

Something involving a hat.

<3

@PatrickGundlach Some years ago, a famous actress in Brazil had some, well, 'naughty' video posted on YouTube and a court judge decided to censor YouTube in Brazil. Our internet backbones had the YouTube DNS removed and the website was totally off for 3 days, until another judge decided to put YouTube back.

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda Every time the same

One vote needed

0

Q: pgfplots: How to add a second tick scale for the same axis?

When plotting large values with pgfplots a common factor (e.g. 10^6) is shown on top of the axis. Is it possible to add a second factor behind this, so that the new label there is for example "*10^6 / *10^8"? I know how I can change parameters (like the position) using every y tick scale label/....

pgfplots labels

cgnieder

11:25 AM

@PauloCereda lol, but I only can silly speech

Paulo Cereda

@cgnieder LOL

user19161

1:28 PM

@PatrickGundlach This seems very common in Germany.

Patrick Gundlach

2:31 PM

@JasperLoy Yes, very often I see this. I really don't know who to blame for that. If youtube doesn't have the rights, it must not play the video. The problem is that the music industry (represented through the GEMA) is trying to make money from everything it can (even from kindergartens photocopying children's songs for own use) and that makes a lot of people so angry that the GEMA is the (in their minds) the devil himself.

percusse

According to the OP's comment this is TL

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Q: Exporting TikZ to EPS using MacTex

I have followed the instructions for exporting to an .eps file from a TikZ drawing provided here: http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/8646/8078. However, I cannot get any of the methods to produce an .eps file successfully. I am working on a MAC, OS 10.6.8, running MacTeX via TexShop. When I use the...

tikz-pgf eps tikz-external

J G

3:02 PM

Hi, have any of you used the language R?

David Carlisle

3:16 PM

@JG not really used but we made nag.co.uk/numeric/R/r-package

J G

@DavidCarlisle I just want to know how to get started. I have some R code I'd like to run on a windows machine. I have the code in one directory on my computer. How do I get R into that directory? What do I type in the R prompt to execute the code (a .R file)

David Carlisle

typing help usually worked for me

sorry I have changed machines since don't have it immediately available but as I recall there was a menu option to load functions from a file, then the function was available to be used at the command prompt

J G

@DavidCarlisle Ok, I figured out how to change directories. Now how do I run an .R code

David Carlisle

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Q: how to execute .r files in windows

Below is the code in a .r file. I want to execute this from a Windows command prompt, but how? library(coda) a <- read.coda("CODAchain1.txt","CODAindex.txt") out <- capture.output(summary(a)) cat(out,file="out.txt",sep="\n",append=FALSE)

windows r

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle: ManUtd lost. :(

J G

3:24 PM

@DavidCarlisle Thanks. though I cannot get this to work: R CMD BATCH /<full-path>/coda_scrp.r

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I didn't know they played cricket

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Do they? Man, you guys have to take me to watch a cricket game! :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I've never been to watch cricket (you have to be able to drink a lot of beer I think to want to sit at the edge of a field all day)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle I don't drink, and I've been once or twice. You need to remember to take a book, unless you are involved. (I occasionally score for our work team)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright, @DavidCarlisle: Yay, we are going to a cricket game! Do they sell those giant #1 gloves? :)

David Carlisle

3:28 PM

@JosephWright when @PauloCereda organises TUG in Brazil we should go here brasilcricket.org/en

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle :-)

Paulo Cereda

Suddenly I'm interested in cricket. :)

@DavidCarlisle Yay, a cricket game! :D

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Oh no, coloured tops

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Oh no, is that a problem? :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Depends on your point of view. The authorities are very keen on having 'team colours', etc., to promote the game 'to a wider audience'. The more traditionalist follower/player prefers the idea that everyone wears whites.

@PauloCereda You don't need different colours for the two teams to make the game work

Paulo Cereda

3:32 PM

@JosephWright Oh. I need to learn the rules. :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda This will be fun

@PauloCereda Do you know for example baseball at all?

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright I'm looking for a "Cricket for dummies" book. :)

Canageek

Anyone here? My freind was wondering what the typography geeks had to say about his presentation

David Carlisle

@Canageek there was nothing about cricket in it

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright ahm... no. :) I think I almost understood [american] football and rugby, but the only baseball I know is from Super Mario Sluggers. I don't think it's in the rules to be able to throw a turtle shell at the guy with the bat. :P

Canageek

3:37 PM

opps. forgot the picture

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda one bloke throws the ball at three sticks, if it hits them the bloke with the bat is out and the next person from his side comes out to the wicket,until al have had a go. If not the bloke with the bat tries to hit the ball away and run backwards and forwards until the ball is returned. side with most runs after 5 days wins.

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle There you go

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Notes: 1) There are meal breaks; 2) Ball is essentially made of wood; 3) Ball travels at up to 100 mph

@Canageek Scheme is horribly looking: what is up with subscripts for example

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh it sounds suspiciously familiar! :) I've played the "backyard cricket" (the Portuguese name has nothing to do with cricket at all - we call it taco or bets ), that one I know. :)

Patrick Gundlach

Today I helped editing a word document: right aligned text by inserting spaces, hyphenation with explicit "-" and other interesting stuff.

Paulo Cereda

3:41 PM

@Canageek I'd prefer a light theme. :) Preferably one with a white background, so the picture doesn't jump from the presentation. :) And that font... well, I'm not a fan. :)

Canageek

@JosephWright I hadn't even noticed that.

David Carlisle

@Canageek I don't know Chemistry but the subscripts appear all over the place H_3C has a big 3 not very low but K_2 C)_3 has small superscripst way below the baseline and H_2O the 2 almost bumps in the text below

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Meal breaks?! I'm in! :D

Canageek

Oh crud, part of that is my fault when I cropped the image

Here is mine, let me retake that screenshot

@JosephWright Apprently that is how ChemSketch does subscripts

@DavidCarlisle Seems that is the program, I may have made it worse by streching the image, I reuploaded it.

Joseph Wright

@Canageek Quite possibly. I think I mentioned I use ChemDraw ;-)

Canageek

3:48 PM

@JosephWright I did mine in ChemDraw based on your and some other peoples advice

Joseph Wright

@Canageek It shows :-)

Canageek

@JosephWright Thanks. He'd not used either before, so did it in ChemSketch since it is a lot easier to learn.

Joseph Wright

@Canageek I think your friend's choice of a serif font does them no favours: the really do not work for overheads. Also, I agree about the dark background not being a good plan: these work poorly on a projector

The frame number also looks out: it's very small compared with the rest of the text, and so far into the corner it might 'fall off' depending on the projector set up.

Marco Daniel

One vote needed

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Q: Exporting TikZ to EPS using MacTex

I have followed the instructions for exporting to an .eps file from a TikZ drawing provided here: http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/8646/8078. However, I cannot get any of the methods to produce an .eps file successfully. I am working on a MAC, OS 10.6.8, running MacTeX via TexShop. When I use the...

tikz-pgf eps tikz-external

Two votes needed

tex.stackexchange.com/a/68073/5239

David Carlisle

@Canageek they are still inconsistent (and you have a spider on the arrow on your version:-)

Marco Daniel

4:04 PM

@GonzaloMedina: Why did you delete your answer: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/68010/… -- Please read the comments above. The op doesn't required tcolorbox.

@PauloCereda: The first step:

marco@marco-linux:/usr/local/texlive/2012$ find -iname "beamer*theme*"
./texmf-dist/tex/latex/beamer/themes/outer/beamerouterthemeshadow.sty
./texmf-dist/tex/latex/beamer/themes/outer/beamerouterthemedefault.sty
./texmf-dist/tex/latex/beamer/themes/outer/beamerouterthememiniframes.sty
./texmf-dist/tex/latex/beamer/themes/outer/beamerouterthemesmoothtree.sty
./texmf-dist/tex/latex/beamer/themes/outer/beamerouterthemetree.sty
./texmf-dist/tex/latex/beamer/themes/outer/beamerouterthemeinfolines.sty

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel Oh! :)

David Carlisle

4:32 PM

@PauloCereda for t in ls `kpsewhich beamer.cls`/../themes/theme/; do a=${t#beamertheme}; echo ${a%.sty};done

AnnArbor
Antibes
Bergen
Berkeley
Berlin
Boadilla
boxes
CambridgeUS
Copenhagen
Darmstadt
default
Dresden
EastLansing
Frankfurt
Goettingen
Hannover
Ilmenau
JuanLesPins
Luebeck
Madrid
Malmoe
Marburg
Montpellier
PaloAlto
Pittsburgh
Rochester
Singapore
Szeged
Warsaw
compatibil

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle wow!

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda see if you were a windows user like me you 'd have bash as your command shell too:-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle No PowerShell? :P

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle I suspect I could do the same on Windows using the Command Prompt, but it would take a little while to come up with the correct code :-(

Gonzalo Medina

@MarcoDaniel Because I couldn't access the values for the left and right inner margins for the definition of the extra lines to avoid adding 20pt manually. Of course you know how to access those values :-)

Now I've undeleted it.

tohecz

4:59 PM

Hi @Paulo ! Can you please name the three pianos again? I cannot find it in the logs.

Canageek

@JosephWright Yeah, I should make mine larger.

tohecz

You know, TeX log is always long and talkative.

Paulo Cereda

Hi @tohecz! :) How was the meeting? :)

tohecz

Fine, thanks for asking!

Paulo Cereda

The pianos are: Roland RP 301, Yamaha YDP 161 and Korg LP 350. :)

Canageek

5:01 PM

@JosephWright Huh, I've always found it much easier to read light on dark text. Will look into light next time though. If I had Beamer themes in powerpoint I'd use light.

tohecz

It really went well and it seems I have some nice and reasonable money for it.

Btw, do you live in an appartment or in a house?

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle I tried setting up zsh, but unlike ubuntu the defaults didn't work :(

Marco Daniel

@GonzaloMedina You can use:

\gdef\Sepline{%
  \par\noindent\makebox[\linewidth][l]{%
  \hspace*{-\mdflength{innerleftmargin}}%
   \tikz\draw[thick,dashed,gray!60] (0,0) --%
        (\textwidth+\the\mdflength{innerleftmargin}+\the\mdflength{innerrightmargin},0);
  }\par\nobreak}

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda Is there a new piano package in CTAN?

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina I wish. :)

Marco Daniel

5:02 PM

@DavidCarlisle cygwin :-)

tohecz

@GonzaloMedina Do you want such? I believe we can make some with @Paulo :)

Gonzalo Medina

@MarcoDaniel Ah, of course. I'll edit the answer. Thank you very much.

Canageek

@MarcoDaniel Yeah, that is what I use. Wish I could get zsh working in it.

Marco Daniel

@Canageek Good question. I installed cygwin some years ago on my old windows machine ;-)

Gonzalo Medina

@MarcoDaniel The user accepted my undeleted answer, so I owe you some rep. points!

Marco Daniel

5:08 PM

@GonzaloMedina And @PauloCereda: some beer ;-) -- No problem. I am happy to see my package in usage ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel ein bierhaus! :D

und ein Ente!

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda Trying not to upset @DavidCarlisle using the German word?

Joseph Wright

@Canageek Traditional slides works quite well with white-on-black, but as they have 'true' black this works well. Modern projectors are not good at solid dark colours.

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina Indeed :P Una gran cantidad de patos! :)

tohecz

@PauloCereda What are the prices of the Yamaha and Roland there?

Marco Daniel

5:12 PM

@PauloCereda LOL

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz The difference is not big. Rolland is $200 more expensive. :)

tohecz

Well, me personally, I'd go for the Yamaha and invest the $200 into good headphones :)

I just played some youtube videos of both

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz ooh interesting. :) I was seduced by the "superNatural" propaganda, but only by that. :D

tohecz

the Roland seem a bit "electronic" in the low tones (it sounds a bit like electric bass guitar)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Oh that's bad news (I love low tones).

tohecz

5:15 PM

Yamaha's GH should be fine too, even though it is not the most modern GH3

but still, that is just my impression

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda por lo que leo, ¡veo que has hecho grandes progresos en español!

tohecz

from a video that someone played on the piano, then recorded it, compressed to youtube, and I played it at my (not so good) computer into my headphones

J G

Sorry to ask again but are there any R users?

tohecz

well, I leave it up to you. I believe that you'll be content with any intstrument from a good brand at this price

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina Gracias! :) Tengo que aprender, para que puedo visitarlo.

tohecz

5:20 PM

@JG Maybe math.SE is your friend?

J G

@tohecz i tried :(

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda "para que pueda" and you can use the not so formal "visitarte". And don't forget the inverted exclamation mark "¡".

J G

Nobody makes maps?

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz: Now you convinced me! :) I've never paid attention to the lower tones, but now I'm feeling exactly what you mentioned. :) The Yamaha seems more beautiful too, and a good headphone is also in my plans. :)

tohecz

for a good phone, see this one:

usa.yamaha.com/products/music-production/accessories/headphones/…

Paulo Cereda

5:22 PM

@GonzaloMedina Oh thanks, I'm trying to learn from a traveler's guide, but there's a lot for me to understand. :) I'm ok with reading and listening to, but composing sentences is still complicated. :) I still need to figure out how to \rotatebox{180}{!}. :)

tohecz

I have tried two headphones in the store (they let me play some piano and try both). One was KOSS (really good brand) and the other was this Yamaha. And the choice was more than obvious.

@PauloCereda lol

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz They look cool. :) Now I need to find out if any stores sell them around here. :P

tohecz

@PauloCereda just to be sure: You speak Portuguese and you discuss Spanish?

@PauloCereda well, shipping of such thing as headphones would be worth it I think

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Yes, I'm a [Brazilian] Portuguese speaker. :) And I'm trying to learn Spanish. :)

tohecz

Actually, I was thinking which phones to pack with me for my long stays in Paris, and I think that these won

Paulo Cereda

5:26 PM

@tohecz Maybe I could bring that piano in my backpack when I visit Europe. :D

tohecz

or come to Prague when I'm here and you can play my CP-50 :)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz <3

Ich hätte gern eine Tragetastche.

Oops wrong sentence. :P

tohecz

I don't speak German, so whatever :P

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Neither do I. :P

@tohecz: now I need to get rid of my "real" piano first, then get the digital one. :)

tohecz

And it is wrong?

Paulo Cereda

5:31 PM

The sentence? I got something random from my German guide. :P

tohecz

no, I mean the old piano

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda The sentence is correct

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel Oh, it's something about bags, I guess. :P

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda Correct. You want a bag ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz oh sorry. :) Well, the old piano is giving me headaches because of its age. Strings are breaking, the mechanism is very old... at the end of the day, I'll have to spend too much money on something that I could get rid of and invest the money on something more modern and easy to maintain. :)

@MarcoDaniel Woohoo!

:P

Gonzalo Medina

5:36 PM

@PauloCereda Never marry to an old person!

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina If you were a piano. :)

Don't try to put words into my mouth! :P

tohecz

@PauloCereda Yeah, I get it

I just hate the fact that everybody gets an electronic piano

(but well, I have one, so I cannot say this too loudly)

albeit I have an up-right piano at mz parents' apartment

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz I'd love to keep my old piano, but the costs are really high at the moment. :(

tohecz

yeah, every piano is good unlit some "break point". At that point, you have to either think of it as an antigue and invest money into it, or get rid of it.

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz Indeed. :)

@GonzaloMedina: Can one find tacos in Colombia too? I'd love to try one. :)

Gonzalo Medina

6:00 PM

@PauloCereda In Mexican restaurants ;-) Our equivalent (to some extent) are empanadas.

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina ooh empanadas! Me wantee!

:)

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda Come visiting!

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina Hopefully next year. :)

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda Really? Some congress in Colombia?

tohecz

Btw, my first package: chkfloats. Yay!

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Canageek

6:05 PM

@JosephWright I don't suppose you know of chem naming software that will do 4 coordinate boron? ACD 10 doesn't.

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina I'm hunting a conference there, so it's an excuse to visit you. :) First Latin America, then Europe. :)

@tohecz Yay, congrats! :)

Joseph Wright

@Canageek Give me a second to check

tohecz

And it goes here obviously:

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Q: Which questions led to the creation of a new package?

TeX.sx occasionally inspires people to be ingeniously creative and write cool packages. Let's have a list of all the CTAN packages that originated in a question on TeX.sx. I suggest a single CW answer for starters, listing the packages alphabetically, following this pattern: babyloniannum by R...

discussion big-list

Joseph Wright

@Canageek MarvinSketch seems to manage, at least with the simple case of [BPh4]

@Canageek Marvin is used by Reaxys as it's editor, but you can download it and get an academic license for local use

Canageek

@JosephWright Will look into it. Mine doesn't like carbines, 4 coordinate boron, or coordination bonds, and really doesn't like it when I mix these things into heterocycles.

Gonzalo Medina

6:09 PM

@PauloCereda And what topic specifically would be of interest for you?

Joseph Wright

@Canageek All of the free auto-systems are limited, I think. I suspect the CAS have something very clever and very expensive!

Canageek

@JosephWright This is the paid version of ACD. The free version won't even get that far, is sees the number of carbons or the number of fused rings and stops

Also, is the n in n-buytl lithium italic?

Joseph Wright

@Canageek Ah right

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina Anything CS-related is acceptable. :)

Joseph Wright

@Canageek Depends on the publisher :-) I would make it italic if using italic for t-Bu/s-Bu, etc.

Canageek

6:12 PM

@JosephWright Good point, checks last paper by this authour ok, yes we do.

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda I hope you find something interesting. If I hear about some conference/congress I'll let you know.

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina Gracias! :)

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda ¡De nada!

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina <3

Gonzalo Medina

Me tengo que ir. Chao.

Paulo Cereda

6:19 PM

@GonzaloMedina \rotatebox{180}{!}Tenga una gran tarde, Gonzalo! :)

Spanish + LaTeX = awesomeness. :P

cmhughes

7:00 PM

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Q: what is the best package for making a math poster?

I am going to make a poster. I find that there are several possibilities: e.g., beamerposter, a0poster, baposter. Does anyone know which is the best one to make a math poster? Thanks a lot!

packages posters beamerposter sciposter

duplicate of tex.stackexchange.com/questions/341/… ?...

tohecz

@cmhughes surely a dupe

cmhughes

@tohecz I think so too- didn't want to vote to close too early though....

tohecz

especially after "Thanks cmbughes. :-)"

Mr. cm**b**ughes :P

cmhughes

have voted to close

tohecz

I'm off to bed. I'll try to catch more sleep than yesterday :(

Well, @Paulo, have a nice shopping!

David Carlisle

7:16 PM

@GonzaloMedina but I (and my friend google) are fluent in German

Patrick Gundlach

I have totally missed @PauloCereda 's cute duck chapter introduction!

I hope there is a package on ctan soon!

tohecz

7:39 PM

I have a feeling that this is not a regular answer:

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A: Font and Style considerations for business reporting

The design of business documents depends heavily on the country. In North America you should use masses of capital letters for the headlines, in Europe people seem to like headlines in bold print and so on. So what you have to do is to find out some characteristical attributes of business docume...

(I know that the question is close to not being a regular question, but that does not excuse bad answers.)

Do you think it should be converted to a comment?

boothby81

Hi everyone!
My first time in the chat here...

I have a question concerning common practice on TeX.sx in the following case: I found a question that exactly describes my current problem. The only answer it got is no solution for me (and also was not for the OP).
Should I start a new question or add a comment to the old question or a comment to the old answer?

Patrick Gundlach

@boothby81 Welcome

tohecz

@boothby81 Hi!

boothby81

Hello Patrick!

Patrick Gundlach

@boothby81 I'd ask a new question with a link to the old question and explaining why it didn't work for you.

Stefan Kottwitz

7:50 PM

@cmhughes I voted too, so we closed it with 3 votes. It's the same, except that the OP means math, but this makes no difference.

Patrick Gundlach

should read: "... why the answer doesn't work for you."

tohecz

@boothby81 Well, I'd oppose to @Patrick: You should bring attention to the old one if your problem is exactly the same as the orignial problem

but Patrick is right that making a second question and explaining the difficulties might work too

Patrick Gundlach

@tohecz What would be the best way for a low-rep user to bring attention to a question?

boothby81

@tohecz Hehe, two answers, two opinions ;)

Patrick Gundlach

... bounty doesn't work in this case...

tohecz

7:53 PM

Yeah I know, bounty is a problem for a newcomer

Patrick Gundlach

@boothby81 I agree with @tohecz, but you might have a hard time bringing enough attention to the old question

Stefan Kottwitz

@PatrickGundlach Bounty is the correct way, and it should not be too hard to earn the rep for it.

Andrew Stacey

Which question is it?

user19161

@PatrickGundlach Well, for one, he can come to chat and talk about it.

Andrew Stacey

(@JasperLoy Just said the other thing I was going to say!)

tohecz

7:54 PM

Well, I think you can start a new one. Even if it gets closed, you bring the attention to the problem. (But don't tell the mods I've advised you this ...)

boothby81

this one: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1357/…

user19161

@StefanKottwitz But 50 points is quite hard to earn! Of course, not for you!

Patrick Gundlach

@tohecz The mods are normally not in the chat, so they won't see this here ;-)

Stefan Kottwitz

@JasperLoy It's hard to earn by answers, today, that's true! But it's easy by posting one more more good questions. Even if one has to think, what he may be interested in.

user19161

@PatrickGundlach Actually, they are in chat half the time...

tohecz

7:58 PM

And by the way, if your new question is much better than the previous one (I mean, you can post a priview etc.), it can be agreed that the old one gets closed. But I'm not the one to decide which one gets closed.

boothby81

Okay, so I'll start a new question, of course referencing the old one. Let's see what happens.

user19161

@tohecz Often I feel that older questions could be closed as duplicate of newer ones if the newer ones are much more well-written, form a proper superset of the older ones, and the older ones don't have good answers.

boothby81

already created the preview.

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