The Bridge

As such, I will, randomly, apply it on various foods when it is served with them, but I don't entirely like it because, to me, there's nothing really there to like.

kalina

10:07 PM

@OrigamiRobot I call them crisps but I believe you'd call them "chips"

basically require one of the following: sour cream, salsa, nacho cheese

or a combination of all three

OrigamiRobot

@kalina They are fine on their own.

Shotgun Ninja

@OrigamiRobot Most things produced from Poland or Polish cuisine.

Grace Note

@kalina Chips can totally be done without sauces.

OrigamiRobot

@kalina If I did that, I'd only be able to taste those things.

Ben Brocka

I only like it with mexican/tex mex food along with salsa

Powerlord

10:08 PM

Team Fortress 2 needs sour cream

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot (To be fair, my understanding of those things is that this is entirely the point)

kalina

@GraceNote yes, you can eat bread by itself too, you wouldn't normally though

Powerlord

This isn't a blatant attempt to change the subject.

Grace Note

@kalina You don't know me well enough.

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote Then why bother with the chips. I want to taste the chips!

kalina

10:09 PM

the silence was caused by an explosion, I am unable to respond

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot You have nachos when you want cheese, and chips when you want chips. Seems easy enough, no?

kalina

you don't need nachos to eat cheese

you don't need anything to eat cheese

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote Yes, but why waste chips when all you want is cheese?

kalina

cheese is just awesome

Grace Note

Sauces can be the kind of thing where the food item is merely a vector for consuming an otherwise horrendous-to-consume-on-its-own condition. Like how "salad" only exists as a vector to eat salad dressing.

kalina

10:11 PM

one of these days I am going to go to a restaurant and order a plate of cheese, just to see what they do

OrigamiRobot

I don't dislike the taste of ketchup, but I only use it if I don't want to taste the thing I'm putting it on.

Powerlord

Cheese, it's whats for dinner.

Shotgun Ninja

@OrigamiRobot Exactly.

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot Do you just eat blocks of melted cheese?

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka Why not?

Shotgun Ninja

10:11 PM

Also, there are really well-crafted sauces in TRUE Japanese cuisine.

kalina

@OrigamiRobot do you put sugar in coffee?

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot The chips are just edible spoons, then.

Shotgun Ninja

Anything with High Fructose Corn Syrup as a base is NOT true cultural cuisine, mind you.

OrigamiRobot

@kalina I put coffee in my sugar.

kalina

@OrigamiRobot that is what I thought.

OrigamiRobot

10:12 PM

@JasonBerkan But I like the taste of chips.

kalina

you put too much of condiment <X> on food <Y>

OrigamiRobot

I don't want to cover it up.

Shotgun Ninja

@JasonBerkan Kind of like pita bread in Greek culture, or the Saudi flatbread equivalent.

Grace Note

Also tomato-based sauces are very meh and meh.

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot So, eat every second one without cheese.

kalina

10:13 PM

@GraceNote yeah I'm not a great fan of ketchups

OrigamiRobot

8 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

@AshleyNunn I either taste only sauce or no sauce. There is no in between.

Shotgun Ninja

Mix cheese and tomato ketchup, add milk, heat in microwaveable bowl. Instant tomato-cheese soup.

user15026

@ShotgunNinja nnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooo

OrigamiRobot

@JasonBerkan But that is still a chip that I don't get to taste. That is a waste.

Shotgun Ninja

Hahaha, just kidding.

Velveeta + Ground tomatoes + Blender = tomato-cheese soup.

actually, I'm from Wisconsin, so I guess I know a thing or two about cheese.

Jason Berkan

10:14 PM

@OrigamiRobot I must confess that this is blowing my mind - combining flavours and textures is the raison etre of cooking.

user15026

@JasonBerkan Thiiiiiis

kalina

@JasonBerkan yay sanity

OrigamiRobot

Flavors do not combine well for me. They more just overpower each other.

user15026

@ShotgunNinja Ketchup is a condiment, not a solo food

Grace Note

@JasonBerkan Some people don't handle flavor mixture well. Rob is one of them.

kalina

10:17 PM

ok @OrigamiRobot, how about this. Before you, there is a plate of food, on this plate, there is beef, potato, cabbage, carrot, and peas... Do you eat a bit of everything at once, or eat everything of one thing before moving on to the next food on the plate?

and do you start with the beef and finish with the veg, or start with the veg and finish with the beef?

OrigamiRobot

@kalina Everything of one.

@kalina Depends. I usually go with what I like least to what I like most.

user15026

@kalina Mix it all together. Stick in face.

kalina

@AshleyNunn this is what I would do

but predictably, @OrigamiRobot eats everything of one thing before moving onto the next

user15026

I used to be one food at a time. Then I learned that food mixing can be magical

kalina

I conclude, he doesn't like mixing flavours

OrigamiRobot

10:18 PM

Unless there is corn and mashed potatoes. Those go together.

But that's more for the texture.

@kalina Because they don't mix for me.

Powerlord

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129797136 <-- You know you want to click Yes

kalina

@OrigamiRobot you are broken, damaged, return to manufacturer for replacement

Shotgun Ninja

@OrigamiRobot Ahaha, agreed.

Powerlord

@kalina He kept saying that my sappers didn't work on him, but he was lying.

Shotgun Ninja

I recently started to learn the wonders of cooking.

OrigamiRobot

10:20 PM

Also, A1 is an exception. I like A1 on steak and mashed potatoes. Unless it is really good steak. Then it can stand on its own.

Shotgun Ninja

@OrigamiRobot Brilliant.

Lazers

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Q: red dead redemption undead nightmare - five finger filet

Can I play the five finger game in undead nightmare on Xbox 360 , too ? I know s playable at the standart version but undead nightmare is somehow a standalone at the Xbox 360.

Shotgun Ninja

Sup @Lazers

kalina

@ShotgunNinja you are addressing a bot

Jason Berkan

@Lazers So...much...misspelling...

Ben Brocka

10:21 PM

Bleh, A1 < Worcestershire sauce

OrigamiRobot

@kalina You all have been for the past 15 minutes!

Shotgun Ninja

@kalina I realized that about 10 seconds after posting that.

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka I use that for making beef jerky.

kalina

@OrigamiRobot I believe you've taken your "robot" persona too seriously, and it has begun seeping out into your humanity

StrixVaria

Worcestershire sauce is delicious.

Shotgun Ninja

10:22 PM

@OrigamiRobot Different kind of bot. You are an Origami Robot, whereas Lazers is a Chatbot.

OrigamiRobot

@kalina It's not my fault my tongue is broken. I'm just making due as best I can.

Shotgun Ninja

Also, Malt Vinegar is delicious on French fries.

OrigamiRobot

Oh, vinegar is good with greens and cabbage!

LessPop_MoreFizz

This is a good way to deal with pirates.

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kalina

@OrigamiRobot these two messages explain everything

Nov 27 '12 at 20:42, by pixel

I think I've overdosed

Nov 27 '12 at 20:42, by pixel

@James sour cream

OrigamiRobot

10:25 PM

Eh?

I don't think your love for sour cream needed explaining.

kalina

but... sour cream

fbueckert

@TrentHawkins Presumably, if it's running off doritos, heat will help it.

OrigamiRobot

Nacho Cheese Doritos are the only good Doritos runs home BYE

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot They ARE good.

kalina

@OrigamiRobot with sour cream

Powerlord

10:38 PM

I'm going to hurt him.

Up until just recently, I thought Cool Ranch were my favorite Doritos. Then I tried a Taco Dorito for the first time since the late 90s.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Powerlord Better that than a Dorito taco.

Those are scary and I am afraid to eat one.

Powerlord

@LessPop_MoreFizz They're actually quite good.

The ranch ones come out next week!

Ben Brocka

@LessPop_MoreFizz Those exist?

Is the whole thing covered in that icky...dust...stuff?

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Taco Bell sells them.

Doritos Locos Tacos.

Ben Brocka

Haven't eaten there in over a year...though their crunch wrap supreme is okay in a pinch

Powerlord

10:42 PM

Its basically their standard crunchy taco but it has the nacho cheese dust on it.

on the shell that is

Ben Brocka

On the outside too?

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Yes

There's a picture of one on its product page, which I linked to earlier.

LessPop_MoreFizz

To be honest, anything from Taco Bell is scary and I am afraid to eat it.

Powerlord

Is it bad that I'm looking through mod nominations for SO, see one with over 7000 helpful flags and still think he'd make a bad mod due to his nomination's actual text?

fbueckert

Darn. The WarZ is back on Steam.

I was hoping they'd die entirely.

SaintWacko

10:46 PM

I haven't eaten any sort of fast food for a long, long time

LessPop_MoreFizz

.... EA... is doing something... good and progressive and admirable? Is it opposites day?

Powerlord

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yes.

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz ...I don't trust it

Powerlord

No wait, they probably have an ulterior motive.

SaintWacko

It's probably a trap

CruelCow

10:47 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Let me restore balance then: vg247.com/2013/02/27/…

Ben Brocka

@LessPop_MoreFizz Then again they also announced they're putting microtransactions in every game

CruelCow

That said, tech companies in general are very pro LGBT

Powerlord

> Sound cache for official shipping content now updated with the game, clients no longer need to compute it

It took you HOW long to realize this was a good idea, Valve?

SaintWacko

@BenBrocka Ah, well, EA, it was a good run. Goodbye.

Powerlord

(Sorry, I should note that's a TF2 Beta update note)

fbueckert

10:48 PM

THQ is auctioning off the rest of their IP. I want to bid on Lot 2.

Ben Brocka

Hope Red Faction goes to a good home

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Powerlord TBQH, I don't think there's really an ulterior motive here either - this is the next step in a long running trend from some of their subsidiaries.

Powerlord

I thought Homeworld was bought up already...

Ben Brocka

Worms?! Did they publish it or something? Doesn't Team 17 still own that?

Coronus

@fbueckert I want it! Not sure which room it'd go in though...

Powerlord

10:50 PM

Valve claims the latest TF2 Beta dedicated server is now 7.5GB smaller.

user15026

@fbueckert I'll take lot 5

fbueckert

@Coronus I dunno; it'd be a pretty huge deal if a lone gamer could actually own the IP rights to the property.

badp

@Powerlord uh, nteresting

that's like.. half?

Ben Brocka

Oh, it's only a few of the games, and nothing like Armeggedon or the original

@Powerlord Holy crap

StrixVaria

How big is the TF2 client install now?

badp

10:51 PM

@StrixVaria I don't think it's changed

LessPop_MoreFizz

@BenBrocka Yeah, note that the last lot is liscensed properties.

HI @MANA

Powerlord

@StrixVaria It was over 12GB last I checked.

Part of the current Beta is to shrink that.

badp

> * Dedicated server: removed textures and sounds from dedicated server distribution. Installation size reduced by approx 7.5GB

Mana

@LessPop_MoreFizz hey dude

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Mana I am not sure if you saw this, but I think you will love it as much as I did. Especially the last one.

badp

10:53 PM

@Powerlord Actually I think the beta just reorders things around rather than shrink them. This change should increase the install size, as a matter of fact:

> * Sound cache for official shipping content now updated with the game, clients no longer need to compute it

Ben Brocka

@badp I wondered if it was something like that actually.

badp

That said... 7.5 GB of textures and sound?!

I know most of it is uncompressed wav files but...

Coronus

@badp 7.5 GB of Hats

badp

@Coronus I think hat textures would be rather tiny

Powerlord

@badp All of HL1's sounds... ALL of them, including dialog... are part of the Shared Source Sounds.

badp

10:55 PM

@Powerlord ugh

@StrixVaria 10,616 MB

Powerlord

Fun fact: TF2 Beta client doesn't check for updates when you launch it.

Meaning that I can't force it to update. >:/

badp

The TF2 beta is 11,911 MB

NO I WILL NOT JOIN RANDOM GROUPS ON STEAM, RANDOM GUYS ON STEAM.

Powerlord

@badp You're remembering to count both the shared source and shared source 2007 files in that?

badp

@Powerlord I don't think the Steam client lets you drill into that level of detail

besides I don't have any other Source 2007 game installed right now I think

btw are there any known fixes other than "REINSTALL ALL THE THINGS" when TF2 decides to stop downloading all custom maps ever?

Powerlord

If you include all the GCF files TF2 requires, it's 13.7GB.

Wait, missed orangebox media

Oh, still 13.7

badp

10:59 PM

There are random guesses on the internet like "uh delete /tf/" or "validate cache files" which don't work

kalina

@badp diskpart

Powerlord

@badp Um...

badp

also TF2 will download all kinds of crap sound files

Powerlord

I don't know if the "don't download files" option includes maps or not.

badp

@Powerlord If it's the setting in Options → Multiplayer you're talking about, I've set it to download everything

I had set it to exclude sounds and stuff. I changed it but... didn't help

Powerlord

11:02 PM

Does seem kind of weird that maps would just stop downloading. I assume the partition your steam user directory is on still has free space?

badp

Yeah. 56 GB

Powerlord

steamcmd updated itself. I wonder what changed.

badp

Whenever I connect to a server with custom maps, it just says "Missing map ctf_haarp.bsp; disconnecting." Also, "Do you want to blacklist the current server?"

Powerlord

@badp This happens with every server?

badp

well, both of the servers I have on my favorite list that run custom maps

Powerlord

11:04 PM

The reason I ask is because servers can be configured not to serve files over a specific size.

badp

I can try connecting to yours, I suppose it's got custom maps and proper configs

Mana

@LessPop_MoreFizz oh my god that last one is amazing

Powerlord

216.52.143.59:27015 <-- It's even on a custom now

badp

@Powerlord One of them is a "fun box" server with 100% custom maps. That would be a stupid thing to do.

Powerlord

Although I wonder how koth_aquifer_b5 got voted up in the first place.

badp

11:06 PM

> Missing map maps/koth_aquifer_b5.bsp, disconnecting

Powerlord

That's not good.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Mana It really is.

Powerlord

@badp: Hmm... what does typing cl_allowdownloads show in the console?

Also, according to du -hs, the TF2 Beta Linux server takes 4.4GB now.

badp

just a sec, connecting to a server so I can get a console

Powerlord

I thought you could get a console without joining a server.

badp

11:10 PM

] cl_allowdownload
]
"cl_allowdownload" = "1"
 archive
 - Client downloads customization files

@Powerlord The keybind doesn't work for me straight from the main menu

CruelCow

@Powerlord only from launch options afaik

Powerlord

I wonder what cl_downloadfilter is set to

or is that one a command, I can't tell.

Nope, it's a cvar

badp

] cl_downloadfilter
]
"cl_downloadfilter" = "all"
 archive
 - Determines which files can be downloaded from the server (all, none, nosounds)

Powerlord

Also, I can launch a TF2 console from the main menu.

But yeah, that looks normal.

Now that I've exited TF2, I have to wait for my Beta copy to resume downloading.

On another note, I'm asking the SM devs what impact it'll have if a server tries to precache a sound or texture now.

Wipqozn

11:27 PM

@AshleyNunn Got the poster. Thank you!

user15026

@Wipqozn Hurray! I am glad it arrived

fbueckert

Two days in, people are still going at it in my thread. Stirring the pot is pretty simple on the bnet forums, apparently.

user15026

@fbueckert What did you do?

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn I posted a topic that said unless PC Diablo 3 gets offline like the consoles, I'm not buying anything from Blizzard again.

Very polite about it. Not that fanboys care about that.

Powerlord

@fbueckert Link? :D

fbueckert

11:32 PM

@Powerlord us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7979928966?page=1

badp

> Don't frustrate yourself with how the Dev's treated the PC version, like me the best thing I can do, is go along with it, and buy the offline version on PS console.

...lol.

fbueckert

@badp Sheeple.

If a company is screwing you over, you don't go along with it and support them.

Powerlord

@badp I saw that and the utter idiocy of it lowered my IQ

fbueckert

You make it very clear why you're not happy, and what they did to lose your business.

Powerlord

Temporarily anyway

fbueckert

11:38 PM

And what they can do to gain it back.

Kenogu Labz

Companies the size of Blizzard seem to have a difficult time listening. Wonder how much if it is lack of willingness to gather feedback and how much is willful ignorance of many complaints as rabble and nay-sayers.

(How big is Blizzard, anyway?)

fbueckert

@KenoguLabz Much of it is going to be Activision screaming, "MONEY MONEY MONEY!" in their ear.

badp

The problem is always that happy customers are silent customers

Kenogu Labz

See: Call of Duty?

kalina

Activision: more evil than EA

fbueckert

11:44 PM

@kalina No, they're about equal.

badp

You always hear from the guys who don't like what you're doing, but you don't hear from the guys you risk alienating if you make your vocal group of users happy

Kenogu Labz

Yep, that selection bias. :/

Raven Dreamer

@kalina Haha, no.

badp

...so pretty much you have to guesstimate

Raven Dreamer

That may have come off more antagonistic than I intended.

fbueckert

11:45 PM

EA just announced their plans to include microtransactions in every game going forward.

kalina

@fbueckert citation?

fbueckert

@kalina rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/27/…

badp

also I think that sometimes people make gods out of "PC hackers" for no real reason

yes, there's whicked cool talent out there

kalina

@fbueckert ugly

badp

but yes, the whicked cool talent is out there because you need every drop of it to get stuff done as of late

Raven Dreamer

11:46 PM

Dear EA: Please spit back out Maxis, at least.

fbueckert

@badp Because their compatriots are paid to keep the rabble out.

kalina

@RavenDreamer bioware

Raven Dreamer

@kalina "at least"

fbueckert

Anyways, I'm off to buy some bubbly! Be back shortly!

kalina

I would rather have Bioware back than Maxis

because whichever way you look at it, there will still be a Sims 4

Raven Dreamer

11:48 PM

@kalina And I will probably welcome that. But Sims 3 just felt like it had large portions of the actual game missing at launch.

Though to be quite honest, not sure if that's EA's fault.

Will blame them for the microtransactions, though!

badp

@fbueckert Also most of the people seem to miss the rather obvious fact that Blizzard is releasing a lot of the server side logic of the game in the code that will allow the PS3 version of the game to play offline

Raven Dreamer

security by obscurity is no security

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badp

I wouldn't be surprised one iota if the offline mode was actually a (slightly dumbed down) copy of their server software, only listening to local connection

Raven Dreamer

@badp FYI, it's "Iota"

kalina

come on, register I've been paid already

dammit

badp

11:52 PM

@RavenDreamer Yoda's yota. Backward small quantity it is.

Raven Dreamer

Also, I came in late. What's your opinion?

Kenogu Labz

Or, if they're good engineers, they just made an interface and mock responses without the need for web comm. to enter the picture...