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17:00
That's certainly not a requirement for entertaining chatter
I think smaller games with a focused narrative and a reasonable completion time would work better
@badp Well, I don't really pay attention to those I don't play anyway (which would be any but Minecraft). :)
@tiddy And that's why I suggested something which would take about 3-4 hours at most to complete for Minecraft.
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@tiddy Then I'd advise pinging @Ktash with your suggestions and feedback and/or alternatively post on the relevant Meta threads. I'm sure Ktash would welcome the input.
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Honestly, I think the games are the least of our issues with running a marathon.
@tiddy Those are great for a showcase, no so much for anything involving personality or...anything beyond the game itself
The point isn't just "look at this game"
17:04
@BenBrocka We could always use those people to spontaneously chant "Far Over the Misty Mountains Cold" (the full version) before the start. ;)
@BenBrocka I'm not following
Awww, man, I should have suggested Dwarf Fortress for the marathon!
That could be awesome
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@SaintWacko I'm not sure that'd be visually engaging enough for a random audience.
@FAE Yeah, but for anyone who knows the game, it would be fun to watch the chaos
@FAE It'll probably end up as a series of blog posts instead
17:07
and using a tileset would make it a bit easier for non-dorfs to tell what was going on
@YiJiang'sEvilClone DF LPs are extremely amusing to read
@FAE @AshleyNunn @murgatroid99 @Wipqozn @BenBrocka @YiJiang'sEvilClone Also, the banner is a S3 spoiler. So don't click if you haven't seen.
Which doesn't really make a marathon I suppose
and awesome, at the same time
@Fluttershy S3?
@SaintWacko Season 3.
@Fluttershy Oh, some mlp thing
17:08
@SaintWacko Yus. I figured that'd be obvious based on whom I pinged. =P
@Fluttershy Eh, I suppose it should have been :P
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@Fluttershy I just don't want this to be true, I dunno.
@Fluttershy Seen that already. Given Hasbro's track record of churning out incredibly poor movies based on their toys...
@badp Thanks - my body has been betraying me the last few days (bad cold), but I did make it to 25.
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@IanPugsley Happy belated!
17:09
@IanPugsley Happy belated Birthday!
@FAE @Fluttershy thanks
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@IanPugsley I would've messaged you on steam yesterday but I didn't see you on. Did you do anything fun?
Have you seen M. A. Larson's #equestrisgirlfacts tweets?
@FAE Slept and watched movies - been sick :(
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@IanPugsley Well taking it easy is nice too. :)
17:10
This FTB download server needs to stop going down halfway through my download...
@YiJiang'sEvilClone I haven't.
@FAE Yeah, but I hate being too sick to game
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@IanPugsley That is the worst.
In a bold new release strategy, Hasbro will release "Equestria Girls" as spoilers & preview clips, not actual episodes. #EquestriaGirlsFacts
@IanPugsley Get well soon
17:14
"Equestria Girls" is a reality show starring @tarastrong, @AndreaLibman, @MichelleCreber, and @ActorPeterNew. #EquestriaGirlsFacts
Hey @Ian!
@GraceNote Hey! Long time no speak - how have you been?
Pretty good. Happy belated birthday
Sickness aside, how've things been for you?
Thanks, and pretty good - job's been treating me well, some good games have come out, etc. :)
Nice, nice.
17:19
North Korea needs to stop being batshit insane.
@Wipqozn That will happen once they no longer are a "democracy".
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@Wipqozn ...really glad my sister's not living there anymore.
@Wipqozn They've been doing that for years. It's all politics and brinkmanship
> Jon Yong Ryong
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Now that they've tested nukes, though, who knows if their insanity will include nuking South Korea.
If it does, that's the last thing they'll ever do, guaranteed.
17:23
They've had nuclear weapons for years
If they nuked South Korea, they'd poison themselves anyway
They have one card, and that is seoul being within artillery range
That's about it
Look, I won't spend much time dwelling on this. Unless something happens, it's all politics. If something does happen, well it's very unlikely you worrying about it will help.
@fbueckert Yeah, any country that uses nuclear weapons will have the entire world against them
@SaintWacko Especially tinpot dictatorships.
@fbueckert Right, when they're already just barely tolerated...
17:28
Hmm, not 'barely tolerated'. Even though relations have cooled recently China still has North Korea's back
We'll see how much longer they can defend NK's antics
@StrixVaria: Did you say that $20 was the price Borderlands had to be before you could play it?
I've given it some thought, and I think I'm ready for Starcraft 2 part 2. Bring it, Blizzard!
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Q: How do upgrade chips work?

Ben BrockaThe upgrade chips I've found (so far) simply list stat boosts like "+1" to damage/reload/rate of fire/clip. I'm fairly sure these are relative boosts, not absolute, but beyond that I'm unsure of how they work. Stats are exposed di Do upgrades of the same type stack? Additive or multiplicative? ...

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Q: How many items is it safe to store in a single container?

kotekzotWhile dumping my loot in a non-respawning chest in my home, I noticed some items disappeared from the chest. I assumed they would return once I'd taken some of the items from the chest, but even after removing all the items they were nowhere to be found - neither in the chest nor in my inventory....

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Q: How do I kill the cute fluffy bunny?

SternoI've just reached the 2nd Strata, and now when I return to the first strata, I sometimes see a gold-colored FOE who likes to play hide and seek with me. When I catch up to it, I fight a "pasaran", which basically looks like a fluffy round bunny. When I try to kill it, it always runs away during ...

17:33
@Wipqozn I just want it under $30.
@StrixVaria Well, you can get it for ~$20 on greenman gaming.
And it activates on Steam?
Yes.
> This game requires a free Steam account to play.
When's that deal end? I might do it tonight but I don't want to do it from work.
I'm uncertain. I'll see if I can find it.
17:35
Thanks, though!
Welp, a quick server change fixed all my problems
I can't buy it.
> Your account is not activated. Please check your e-mail to activate your account
But I did activate my account already.
This site sucks.
> When you buy this game you will receive an account-bound and unique 30%-off voucher, valid for 72 hours after you receive it, that you can use once on any Borderlands 2 or XCOM Enemy Unknown DLC.
Ugh requiring an account to buy things
@BenBrocka Something has to give
17:42
> ► Your bank requires you to authenticate your transaction with them, please follow the instructions below to continue.
Are you kidding me?
@StrixVaria MasterCard sometimes wants an extra password
I had to email Funcom my driver's license and credit card, IN A PICTURE before they auth'ed my account
@tiddy lol
I hope you included a middle finger in the picture
@BenBrocka shrug I got BL2 for like $40 at launch from them.
17:44
also wtf is going on with my chat account
I included as many references to the middle finger as I could
Finally.
@BenBrocka can you go here and pick mod → sync profile?
I wonder if I can activate the game through the web form or if I have to wait until I get home.
@badp why does it do that anyway?
17:45
@BenBrocka I have no idea, it changed me to discuss.area51 twice today
Oh, it thinks I'm on area 51 too.
@badp I'm not seeing anything in the list but A51 and SE network, no arqade, no gaming, nothing
I can't find a way to activate a new game on the web site :(
@BenBrocka I do have the option to change to Arqade but it seems like a no-op
I get nothing, can't enter them via auto-complete or manually
17:48
@StrixVaria They just sell steam keys.
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@Wipqozn Is that an additional 20% off on the 60% off?
Or did you mean Steam's website?
@Sterno You're making me break out my DS here, yeesh.
@FAE I believe that's how it works, yes.
Get your crummy reddit outta here!
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17:49
Thanks to you both.
Dangit, it shows me the site in Euros. <_<
@Wipqozn Total cost: 32%. Two thirds off sounds pretty good.
@fbueckert Yes.
@Wipqozn Can you change your association?
@radp is way too leftist for me
Radical pazzword by the way.
@radp I tried, but it didn't seem to work.
17:53
@Wipqozn mkay
What's with the change @radp?
Oh, good. I'm still associated to my Arqade account.
"Radberry" pi
@GraceNote I'm just about back to the point I got stuck last time.
@radp I installed f.lux last night. Seems pretty neat
17:55
Abyssal Deaths are not my friends
I wish I could get it on my phone/tablet, though
Anyone here getting Brutal Legends?
I can't tell if it's a decent buy.
If I had enough money, I'd probably get it just for the promos
@SaintWacko When you demo the effect it seems pretty brutal, but when you see it in action it isn't, eh?
Also it helps if you make the transition 1 hour instead of... what's the default, 20 seconds?!
Why isn't @badp blue?
@Sterno Don't fight FOEs right brand on a new stratum.
17:57
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Q: Chat stubbornly reassociates accounts to discuss.area51

badpI've seen this happen to quite a few people: chat accounts being reassigned to discuss.Area51 for no apparent reason. Being a Gaming mod, I notice when this happens as the reassignment kicks me out of my moderator powers; this has happened at least thrice to me, but I've shrugged it off every tim...

In EO2 I had my experience good enough that I could tackle orange FOEs on each new stratum (and I had also reached that point some time into EO1), but I can't really say that's the case in EO3.
Also, if you can't take on Abyssal Deaths, don't even think about the other FOEs there.
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@SaintWacko I used that for a bit but it mucked about with my gamma settings in games and I didn't like that
Jan 30 at 21:12, by OrigamiRobot
I'm famous!
Now my browser is using the normal SE icon instead of the spaceship.
What's included in the Borderlands 2 Season Pass?
18:05
Sidenote:
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Q: List of gems only obtainable by drops

Marco LeblancWas just wondering if anyone ever came across a compiled list of gems that are only obtainable through drops? I.E. you can't get them as quest rewards. These are, by their nature, more rare than their quest reward counterparts. Would be nice to have a list like this to prevent getting scammed ...

@Fluttershy All the Borderlands 2 DLC?
Definitely list question, but I don't know how reasonable it is.
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Q: List of gems only obtainable by drops

Marco LeblancWas just wondering if anyone ever came across a compiled list of gems that are only obtainable through drops? I.E. you can't get them as quest rewards. These are, by their nature, more rare than their quest reward counterparts. Would be nice to have a list like this to prevent getting scammed ...

Yes, I double-checked the number of gems, just in case that helps.
@Powerlord Sadly, no. It's only 4 DLC. I'm just wondering if it's solely the main story DLC, or if you get access to Mechromancer and stuff too.
18:06
@GraceNote I didn't mean to. I zigged when I should have zagged.
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A: Does the Season Pass include preorder bonuses like the Mechromancer class?

OrigamiRobot The Mechromancer character class and other preorder items are not included in the Borderlands 2 Season Pass. Joystiq

@OrigamiRobot Stop that, question linking.
You should not be blue.
I am blue?
@OrigamiRobot Your linked question is. Not you.
@OrigamiRobot No, the question link is blue, like it comes from a site other than Gaming.
18:07
It's not the usual green that comes with one boxing.
I'm just going to assume chat has been broken forever.
anarchy
im not even using grammer
@badp I didn't use it for very long, but I liked how it warmed the screen
Oh, that reminds me, I should copy some songs to my MP3 player.
and that star is not showing beside me message
18:09
here's one, another, another, another..... Excuse me, but if you aren't here to answer the quesiton, can you just disregard it and move along? Thanks — Marco Leblanc 2 mins ago
@Sterno Ahha
@fbueckert That question is a bound list. It's fine.
You should work on that. Them crocodiles are pretty nasty.
@OrigamiRobot I concur. I was referring to this user's attitude.
@OrigamiRobot Even with the potential of 130 items in the list?
18:12
@Wipqozn I'm on it.
It's not, I'm just trying to figure out if it's still reasonable or not.
@OrigamiRobot I'm already in the process of making a comment, so you don't need to. Although I can stop if you'd prefer to comment.
@Wipqozn My comment is better than yours.
I shall await your comments with upvote finger ready
I was considering commenting myself, but I'm sure yours will be better
Yay half day!
18:15
@LessPop_MoreFizz Grrrr
@OrigamiRobot My comment is better than both of yours. It has a meta link.
@fbueckert I only saw the 49.
@LessPop_MoreFizz BMO > meta
Since it looks like it's a reasonable bound list, I'll try to answer it. It will take some time, though.
@SaintWacko Counterpoint: I didn't get yesterday off for presidents' day.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh, okay
@OrigamiRobot Want me to Gut Shot one of the boggarts?
18:17
...Or not. I'll double check, but apparently there are less than a dozen that aren't quest rewards.
Oh.... Conclave.... right....
@OrigamiRobot Riiiight...
Not exactly sure what happened with the challenge we were in
I haven't done my major action yet, though, so let me know which one to gut shot
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@Wipqozn Thanks, Jochem and I can use this as our anniversary gift to each other. :P
Really, the worst possible form that could be is if there were exactly 65 gems that were drop-only.
@FAE A comment by Wipqozn is going to be your anniversary gift? That seems like a bit of a let down.
18:20
@SaintWacko 5
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@LessPop_MoreFizz It's a like 80% off Borderlands 2 deal, so it works!
@OrigamiRobot Done
@GraceNote Looks to be a LOT less than that.
@SaintWacko Aww, he'll have 1 left.
@fbueckert My point was more that, if there are significantly more drop-only than not, then technically it's easier to just like all the ones that are not drop-only. Provides the same utility of information, too, just instead of checking the list to see if an item is on it, you see if an item isn't on it.
18:23
@OrigamiRobot Will he be bleeding?
So it only gets to be bothersome if the quantity was rather comparable between the two, in which case it's all the more helpful for us to have that information for people to have.
Oh, after the bleed
@SaintWacko He as at 3 and he is bleeding.
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@LessPop_MoreFizz 10 years tomorrow, neither of us feel like doing anything fancy, so staying in and gaming together sounds like a good plan.
18:23
@FAE Grats!
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@LessPop_MoreFizz Thanks. :)
@FAE that sounds pretty awesome. Also, I didn't realize you and him were together for so long.
@GraceNote I'm basically cross-referencing all gems against quest rewards.
I'll list whichever list is smaller. Which'll probably be drop-only.
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@Wipqozn Aye. I feel old. :P
Anyone here have Dungeons of Dredmor with all the expansions?
18:26
@SaintWacko ...There's two paid expansions, right?
If yes, then I own them both.
@fbueckert Yes, and one free one
@SaintWacko Then I own it all. ALL, I say!
@fbueckert Any chance you could upload your DLC folder to Dropbox? I own them all on Steam, but I can only download standalone from Desura :(
And I only own the base game on Desura
I'm trying to put it on my flash drive
Actually the folder might be called expansion. I can't remember
@LessPop_MoreFizz During the weekend you couldn't have linked to this, eh?
18:33
@badp What?
@SaintWacko If you're willing to wait until I get home, sure.
@LessPop_MoreFizz It would've made my life easier
@badp Why so?
@fbueckert Oh, how long will that be?
@LessPop_MoreFizz here
18:34
@SaintWacko Roughly five hours or so.
Oh, wait, four.
@badp It doesn't support your argument.
@fbueckert Oh, nevermind then. In 3.5 hours I'll be home, so I can just pull them off my laptop
@badp Looking at the answer to the question in question, it's scoped very cleanly within what I would consider to be a reasonable list.
Thanks for the offer, though
@SaintWacko Sorry, dude.
18:35
@fbueckert No worries
@LessPop_MoreFizz "Would my doing so provide information in a meaningful, readable way that makes the internet better, and provides an answer in a way that another resource either does not or can not?"
I've got other stuff on my flash drive, I just felt a DoD craving for some reason
"Examples of 'does not' include organizing the information along an axis which it is not organized along at a traditional resource, or providing contextual information that other resources do not consolidate in one place."
"If somebody else has already created a searchable database of every item, quest, and spell in The Old Republic, by god, I'm going to use that to answer questions"
etc.
"making the internet a better place and providing great answers doesn't mean duplicate all the information on the internet whenever somebody asks for it."
@badp It doesn't mean close their questions either. It means it's appropriate to answer with a link.
@LessPop_MoreFizz So you're saying that your suggested course of action is downvoting the answer for not linking to wikipedia/mobygames? raises eyebrow
Your answer assumes big lists, but there's plenty of stuff that's perfectly valid with small lists too.
18:40
@badp Not necessarily. I'm saying that my suggested course of action isn't to close the question.
@badp Small lists aren't really what that post is about.
That post is about trying to counter the argument that links are inherently bad answers.
@LessPop_MoreFizz That doesn't magically invalidate all the points you've made
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Q: How are Ancillary Armor Repairer Blueprints seeded?

Kort PlecoHow are the new, as of Retribution 1.1, ancillary armor repairer blueprints seeded?

at any rate, I guess I'm just in the minority here, a minority I only really joined because for the longest time I've assumed was the majority in the first place
I think his point is that his points are largely on a different axis than the problem you're looking at.
Now I'll go back at scratching my head whenever lists are involved and letting others figure out the details
18:42
@badp You're cherry picking.
> When I say we aren't GameFAQs, I mean that, in general, our model is that we respond to specific questions with specific answers, rather than presenting a firehose of information dumped into a text file.
Sometimes a specific answer is a short list of things.
That's okay.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Yes, so? That's still valid regardless of length.
We aren't GameFAQs, why are we having questions that ask us to write books?
We aren't MobyGames or Wikipedia, why are we having questions that ask us to list games?
@badp Because we can still answer them with a link to the book that somebody else wrote, and that answer is perfectly valid and okay.
...basically like Google, only worse
@badp And if they aren't asking us to write a book, but rather, to write a page that might belong in a larger book, but which can stand on it's own, well, we can write the page.
I dunno, it sounds like a distraction for me from all the original answers we could spend time writing instead.
18:45
@RonanForman ?
@LessPop_MoreFizz Also, as a response to this, GameFAQs has had an Answers section longer than Arqade has existed.
@Powerlord Yes, but this site was built for Q&A. So it's okay if there are other Q&A sites out there, that's called competition
It's our turf, it's where we're the strongest, it's what we're built for, it's the whole point of the site
Here's a perspective point - disregarding any existing questions that address this, would a question on "What is the timeline of the Zelda games?" be acceptable on the site, and how is it functionally different from asking what all the games are in the Zelda series, with an added bonus of being organized in in-game chronological order?
@GraceNote Well, a question like that would be a fucking nightmare, but that's just a result of the subject area. :P
@GraceNote LPMF presented me with a similar counterpoint, and assisted me with the retort
18:48
@GraceNote Even better, can I link to this to answer said question?
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A: What order should I play the Half-life series in?

badpThe HL2 episodes are not an accessory part of the story, but actual sequels. They do contain plot changing events. The same is not true for the Half Life "One" series, as far as I know. Thus: Half Life Half Life 2 Half Life 2 Episode 1 Half Life 2 Episode 2 As for Portal -- it does contain ...

+1 for leaving out Opposing Force and Blue Shift. Although they may be enjoyable in their own right, they are not at all essential to the overall storyline. — oKtosiTe Jan 3 '11 at 12:45
Asking what order you should play a bunch of games in doesn't mean asking to list all the games.
I got twice as many votes as the guy who did list all the HL2 games in this example.
I would be okay with closing this question, btw; it's a glorified game-rec
@Powerlord To wit.
@badp Eh, seems fine and useful to me
@GraceNote Aw, blocked.
@Powerlord It's an answer on the site on a question "Where does Skyward Sword fit in the timeline?" that cites the book you linked. And also the reason I prefaced "disregarding any existing questions that address this" in my initial perspective point.
@LessPop_MoreFizz I do not disagree there.
18:52
At the end of the day, if lists were really supported in Arqade, the site would be less like Stack Exchange and more like this:
@GraceNote I would hope it'd be linked, seeing as how it's what Wikipedia calls a Primary Source.
@Powerlord Yes, there's a source link.
wat
SE does popup ads now?
I don't... think we do.
Especially not on Arqade. We still don't even have normal ads there.
@GraceNote Drive by ad popups?
18:56
@fbueckert This needs investigating...
@fredley Sorry, still cross-referencing quest rewards against list of skill gems. Somebody else will have to. :P
@OrigamiRobot On Steam's website.
oh look, somebody fixed my account
Can't reproduce...
5
or something
I also fixed @Wipqozn, ostensibly.
18:58
Although SE seems to communicated with alot of sites during a page load
Now he can do his turn in Conclave.
btw I think there's only this quest and the one after it, and then we've completed the Conclave beta
@fredley This will be taken out of context.
@Powerlord How unusual for The Bridge to take something out of context
(mostly for the audio)
@badp You're just teasing me now.
19:05
@fredley You're infected.
@Powerlord It's just "♫ It's not unusual to be loved by anyone, It's not unusual to have fun with anyone ♫"
@StrixVaria I know
Damn and blast.
Does anyone know if there's a way for me to activate a game on Steam only using their web site? I want to start Borderlands 2 installing now so it's ready when I get home.
I can't RDP home; I don't have it set up.
You need to be logged into steam on the PC you wish to download on.
@StrixVaria No, you have to use the GUI to add steam codes I'm afraid
19:11
@badp Lame.
@StrixVaria If you'd bought from the store, there'd be a link in the email to start downloading immediately. I guess it's a small price to pay for the discount
Yeah I'd rather pay $10 less and wait an extra few minutes once I get home.
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Q: Good strategy to kill fran in the brawler guild?

zekeJust like to title says whats a good strategy to kill fran in the brawlers guild. I have killed Riddoh but fran ends up killing me. and if i kill Fran, Riddoh kills me. Quite often fran drop a mine or 2 right on top of me insted of a C around me. I play a level 90 frost death knight with an item...

@StrixVaria 6 GB take a "few extra minutes" to d/l?
also @BenBrocka fo you have any idea what's the deal with the BL2 chi, kappa, rho and zeta betas?
@badp It will probably take about 20 minutes.
Maybe more than a "few".
19:22
@StrixVaria You have a 40 megabit internet connection?
@badp the what what and what whats?
@badp I don't really pay attention to the limitations of bandwidth except when YouTube fails to load my videos fast enough for me to watch them.
Huh, I don't see an image on that video onebox
@badp Huh. No idea. Google doesn't tell me anything
19:27
@Powerlord I'm not sure who disliked that, but I hate them.
@Powerlord Any query strings break oneboxing, so linking to a time breaks the image
unless you #-link to a time
19:48
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Q: Level up after maxing out character's attributes

kotekzotI've maxed out my character's attributes, but still have a few levels' worth of major skill points to earn. When I try to level up, I get a message saying perfection cannot be improved upon, no level up dialog and the level up icon remains in the HUD. Can I still level up somehow?

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Q: in Far Cry 3 is there any point in skinning animals after i've made all the pouches?

JonWI already have all the ammo pouches, rucksacks etc (well if says Owned All against each one in the menu). Is there any reason I should still skin animals anymore? I could sell the skins, but that's a laborious process as they aren't linked to the quick sell option so I'd have to do it manually ...

@Fluttershy What?
@Fluttershy Wikipedia copy/paste?
@fredley whoa, you're not a porkchop anymore.
Oh, yes you are, Chat is just being stupid again.
@Wipqozn That's...unexpected...
I don't look like a porkchop to me
19:53
@fredley Your chat account is hooked up with Area 51.
If you refresh you'll probably see it.
@Wipqozn That's an SE bug, it's happened to me before
@fredley I know.
@badp made a meta poist about it and everything
Porkchop? You don't look like Porkchop!
@fredley More annoying when it happens to mods. Wish they'd fix it
19:57
That's Porkchop!
Porkchop Sandwiches
how we doing?

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