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@Retrosaur It should be.

I VTC'ed, but it aged away.

I'm still unsure as to why Arqade doesn't take suggestions

@Retrosaur Suggestion questions?

Or they don't allow semi-subjective questions

But other sites do

@fbueckert Yeah...

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kGq53ArYFSw

12:09 AM

@Retrosaur What criteria can you use to show that an answer is correct?

@Retrosaur We don't allow bad subjective questions.

Also, sites which allow bad subjective questions are wrong.

Gah. That stupid Cultures question got reopened.

Again.

Oh. Okay. So the question I posted above, is it a good subjective?

@Retrosaur It's been closed and re-opened once already.

Personally, I see it as software recommendations.

I'm not sure what to do

It's a great question to ask in terms of Q&A

Someone wants to know what they can use to record gameplay

But it's also a bad question

because it pretty much solicits opinions/polling

12:11 AM

@Retrosaur And this is why it should be closed.

There's no way to say an answer is correct. All we're going to get is lists of software that can record demos.

And then we get into popularity contests, about which software people like best.

Ah.. Okay. That clarifies things for me, thanks!

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Good. Now we need a few more votes on it to close it!

thedailywtf.com/Articles/Invasion-of-the-Consultants.aspx

Note: If I ever run into consultants that do this, I will shoot them.

@Retrosaur This strikes me as the kind of question a historical lock was created for

It's useful information, although perhaps not a good fit for the site.

I kind of want to play as Zero because he was such a badass in the intro.

@StrixVaria Zero's always a badass at the beginning.

12:21 AM

@StrixVaria Are we talking about Megaman X?

Borderlands 2

@Wipqozn I thought the same thing.

Megaman X > Borderlands 2.

@fbueckert This.

@Wipqozn I want that indie game to finish up.

@StrixVaria Zero is the one that uses sniper rifles, correct?

12:23 AM

@Wipqozn And swords, apparently.

I think Star Command gets another week to communicate before I offically refuse to back anything by them ever again.

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@fbueckert I have given up ever expecting anything

@AshleyNunn There's lots of people tearing a strip off of them on their Facebook page.

Not that they respond to that at all.

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I am not surprised.

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It just frustrates me how they are just like oh hahaha yeah we know we suck but it is coming

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12:37 AM

no i dont think it is

@AshleyNunn There's a gameplay video, so there is SOMETHING to show, but at some point, you stop polishing and bug fixing, and release.

They should have released months ago, bugs and all.

And then worked their ass off to fix them.

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah, they should have, but they didn't, and they suck at communicating

@AshleyNunn That they do. And I've yelled at them about that.

user15026

@fbueckert Let me guess.....no response?

So they get one more week before I announce to all and sundry that they've just lost a customer.

And I put the blame squarely on their shoulders for their inability to communicate.

@AshleyNunn Not even a peep.

RedRiderX

12:41 AM

SkiFree in the Browser

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@fbueckert You'd think they would want someone doing damage control at this point.

@AshleyNunn You'd think so.

To be honest, I'd probably still buy their next game, if they put out something that said, "You know what? We sucked at telling you what was going on with this. We're sorry, we've learned our lesson. We'll keep you in the loop from now on."

But they have to tell us SOMETHING about what's going on.

A bug list is not news.

user15026

Yeaaaaah, and being like "oh we know we suck but game soon' isn't doing it anymore

@AshleyNunn It was charming at first, but now it's just annoying.

Quit being idiots, and suck it up.

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@fbueckert Pretty much.

12:49 AM

I have 15 bullets and no way to get more.

I'm pretty sure I'm doing something wrong.

BL2?

Yeah.

@StrixVaria When @FAE and I were playing earlier, we were really struggling with ammo early on.

Maybe you should try and gun better

Bullymongs take a lot of hits to kill.

12:50 AM

The starter pistol really sucks though

You'll probably be fine meleeing anything in the very first segment

still following claptrap?

Clearing this town of Bullymongs.

I forgot how much I enjoyed BL multplayer

I could make a new char quick and help if ya want

Oh I have a shotgun and it wrecks stuff.

I'm good :P

@BenBrocka I used to be bad a gun, then I bought from Marcus!

12:53 AM

I've probably bought from marcus once in 20 times or less

So does this game autosave my progress if I quit?

Usually the item of the day at Zed's is the only shop item worth checking

Tim Stone

@StrixVaria Obviously you just need a sniper rifle with a 31 round clip.

@StrixVaria yes, just use save and quit

@Fluttershy ಠ_ಠ

12:53 AM

but it auto-saves near-constantly

@TimStone Want.

@TimStone Vladof! VLADOF! VLADOF!!

@BenBrocka I almost never buy weapons

Love their snipers, I have a crazy good caustic one

Ian Pugsley

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12:54 AM

@FAE I only do when I'm desparately under-geared or when he has an item of the day that's blue or better (and only sometimes)

I was hesitant about new Siren but I have fallen in love with Phaselock

@FAE Same here. I figured no phasewalk meant nerf

Phaselocking stuff then sniping it in the head... feels good man.

What version do you play?

Reminds me of my one Mass Effect 3 Adept.

Tim Stone

12:55 AM

@BenBrocka \o/

@BenBrocka I'm only level like, 9, so haven't really gotten far yet. I just bought the game today.

Oh. But on Steam?

@StrixVaria I don't have you on Steam do I?

I'm playing with Jochem, who's on Commando and @Fluttershy, who's on Gunzerker.

@OrigamiRobot ... whut

@Fluttershy I've been home sick all day! I'm so bored!

12:57 AM

Siren's still my fav class. Mechro's second, thanks to the shock tree. The others are okay but not my favs

@BenBrocka I'm in the Steam group under Invade Skoodge.

though gunzerking can be fun, and you never run out of ammo

Unfortunately, I only have about 5 more minutes before I have to go make dinner right now.

@TimStone Mine only has 30 :(

@OrigamiRobot I wasn't the one hosting the game! Don't give me that look.

12:58 AM

@Fluttershy You're the one who said it.

@BenBrocka Not true. I ran out of ammo like crazy! <_<

Added, I'm Sir Taptap

@BenBrocka Any tips? I'm so far thinking about using this guide's MP Siren build. I don't want to play full support, I'm not really a support kinda person, but I can see dipping into it being handy.

@Fluttershy Use shotguns

I WILL GIVE EVERYONE ALL THE LOOK I WANT I RESERVED THE RIGHT!

12:59 AM

@BenBrocka I am now.

@FAE boo hiss

I spec all the way into Cataclysm, get Res (in MP only) and put the rest into Motion

The slag ball is fun but not as useful as other skills. And I find the health regen to be pretty useless, I just depend on shields instead

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@fbueckert Randomly, I decided to re-try reading Earth to Hell today (I abandoned it a long time ago, I got frustrated with all the characters and it all felt over the top), and this time I am really enjoying it. I am not sure what changed :P

@BenBrocka I love Confuse in other games, so I'm wondering how worth it the final skill in Motion is.

Ward's boost to shields is like better than all the harmony tree's health buffs are to health, combined

@FAE I don't care for it. It's a much longer phaselock but it's not as good for singling out a target to kill them. I prefer Ruin. It is murder

Ruin basically slags and splits the shield of almost any non-boss target, and does some corrosive damage on top

And with Converge it can affect a fair number of targets at once

@BenBrocka Hm, interesting. I wasn't looking hard at the Cataclysm tree, as I do like doing a lot of CC and stuff, and that seems mostly to be in Motion. I'll pretty much always be playing MP on this character, no single player.

1:04 AM

Cataclysm adds a LOT of damage with a few skills. I find death to be a much more effective crowd control tactic than a single mind-controlled target

But whatever build you get, max Flicker

@BenBrocka Death is the best debuff.

I would really rather not buy a shield, since the one I have equipped is better than all the ones at the store.

@StrixVaria Yeah, kinda sucks.

@FAE What level are you guys?

@FAE you still have to get one to complete the quest, alas

@BenBrocka 9

1:06 AM

@BenBrocka 9. Not high. Probably will be slow progression though because Jochem doesn't game as often as I do, so.

Also I usually go through and read all the questions for a game on the site when I start playing but holy crap guys, 400+ for BL2, geez. :P

@FAE I could hop in with a new character some time if you're game, they'd probably get to level 9 fast enough

Ullallulloo

@FAE Don't start Skyrim?

@BenBrocka What weapons do you use on her? I like that there's more versatility now in BL2 as opposed 1 re: weapon choice, but now I suddenly don't know what to use, haha.

At this point I'm out of new classes to try

I swear I turned off these Steam ads after you quit a game.

1:09 AM

SMG and Sniper rifle all the way. ARs can be okay, as can Vladof pistols. Shotguns aren't great for Siren, rockets are just bleh all around

I've never been an AR fan much anyway. I'm currently rocking SMG+Sniper and enjoying it a lot, yeah.

I want a sword.

There was a sword in the intro.

Sniper, bigger sniper, pistol, rockets

Shotguns could be good for the "I shoot you with healing bullets" skill.

SMG + sniper is pretty much the best for Siren. Shotguns and ARs are bad at applying elemental effects

@FAE most of the time people don't stop to be healed, so I just use my SMG

1:11 AM

@BenBrocka I've mostly only found pistols with elementals so far and I'm kinda meh on pistols most of the time. I'm a spray and pray kinda gal. Either that or one shotting stuff in the head.

Try and keep a Fire and Corrosive weapon in your wheel at all times too. Shock/slag are optional, but the more people playing the better slag is

You will like vladof pistols

@AshleyNunn Huh. I guess since I had such a break between the two trilogies, I loved them all.

They are basically SMGs with more damage and crap scopes

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@fbueckert I do appreciate them a lot more now. I think it was just too much all in a row.

user15026

Does mean I will have to buy the other two soon.... :S

1:12 AM

@AshleyNunn At least they're out now. :P

Also, Maliwan is your friend as a Siren

Also, Corrosive weapons.

Always.

Not always. Fire's still better against Flesh. The longer DOT is nice though

And elemental downsides are much less pronounced in playthrough 1

@BenBrocka I just mean because once you reach a certain point in the game everything has armor

@BenBrocka I appreciate the offer! I'm probably going to mostly just stick with my SOs on my first playthrough though I think. Also I'm one of those people who likes to explore everywhere and open everything and stuff and I feel like my boyfriends are the only ones I should put through that. :P

Q: How do I use elemental effects in Borderlands 2?

1:16 AM

@Fluttershy True, got to always have one in the quick-swap

@FAE I've made >6 playthroughs so I'm tired of doing every quest anyway :P

Also, required reading:

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As a Siren and Elemental Gun user I'd like to know exactly when to use each type of elemental effect. What are the elements in Borderlands 2? What damage bonuses does each have? When should I use each element? What Damage Over Time effects are there and what special effects do they have? How l...

borderlands-2

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Q: How can I effectively play Siren?

Siren seems to be one of the less common classes and most people don't know much of how to play it aside from "elements and SMGs". What do I need to know to be a good Siren? What do I need to know about elemental effects? Why don't Sirens do as much damage as over classes? How should I use Pha...

borderlands-2

@FAE It's... fun? >_>

@BenBrocka Yeah, I like doing all the sidequests and everything on the first run, so. <_<

@Fluttershy Hush you!

@BenBrocka Thanks!

@FAE =D

@BenBrocka "you're going to run out of bullets. A lot." I mained a Siren in BL1 as well, man I could rip through a full SMG in no time. Looks like that hasn't changed, haha.

@FAE That's why I usually ran around with an ammo regen mod; @TrentHawkins played a Siren.

I was the mobile ammo dispenser!

1:23 AM

BAKE SALES ARE FOR THE DEVIL

@fbueckert I had an SMG for my Siren later on that regenerated ammo which was nice, but I still chewed through it like mad.

@FAE no more ammo regen mods. Just try to keep at least 3 different kinds of guns on you that you can use

@BenBrocka Aw, damn, really?

@spugsley I dunno why, but I read that as bah-kay.

@FAE well there's a team ammo regen mod for Zerker but that's it

1:25 AM

@BenBrocka Ah gotcha.

@spugsley Gimme all the sugary goods!

@FAE That is why I chose Gunzerker for our playthrough.

@fbueckert I'm tired of baking!!!!!!!!! too many cookies that I CAN'T EAT

Also, it's @OrigamiRobot's birthday!!!!

@spugsley Mail me some!

@spugsley NO YOU TRAITOR

1:26 AM

@spugsley I can! I loves me my awesome metabolism!

@spugsley Haha, I didn't mention it in here today because he would've yelled at me.

@OrigamiRobot Happy assembly date!

user15026

@spugsley You can't sneak any cookies?

NO I HATE YOU ALL

@fbueckert I don't give a damn about metabolism...they are for sale so I can't eat them O-o

@AshleyNunn I may have taken...one. And some batter.

1:27 AM

@spugsley Mail me leftovers!

But that's it!

@spugsley Oh. noms on cookies

user15026

@spugsley You have to test the product!

@AshleyNunn I KNOW RIGHT

user15026

@spugsley That's how I ended up with a bowl fuiill of caramel and a spoon and then eventually hte bowl was not full but I knew for sure the caramel was tasty

1:29 AM

FINE! JUST IGNORE ME @SPUGSLEY

@Fluttershy BECAUSE THE LEFT OVERS ARE MINE

@spugsley =(

@AshleyNunn teee heeee :) mmmmkm

Q: How do I see more rival's best time in Super Mario 3D Land?

@spugly pls

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Lazers

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I notice that in each level my time is being compared to a rival. I want to know who my rivals are, and if I'm the fastest one in the world in completing that level. Is that possible?

super-mario-3d-land

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Q: When I taking revenge, what is actually happens if I destroy all first attacker's facilities?

If I've got even with someone attacked me in the first place, and I've destroyed all of his village. What is really seen at his screen? Have I really destroyed anything? Does it cost him? What else except of some sources missing do I hurt him? Thank you

clash-of-clans

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Q: Unit Balance Changes in Starcraft 2 Heart of the Swarm

I see websites showing the stats for the new units being introduced into SC2 HotS, but what are the balance changes to the existing units?

starcraft-2 starcraft-2-hots

1:31 AM

@spugsley Hi lady

@FAE HI LADY

@spugsley How goes it? :)

@FAE the best :)

Ooh. So many sore muscles, but I will attempt tango practice in a little bit.

@Lazers Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

1:32 AM

@fbueckert Sexy!

@FAE That's going to be the next performance.

@spugsley I'm glad to hear it!

@fbueckert Awesome, you should film that one!

@FAE It will be.

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@fbueckert Oooh, yay! (Tangos melt me into a puddle of yay)

@AshleyNunn hahahaha puddle of yay

1:34 AM

@AshleyNunn First, the waltz I had to smile like an idiot throughout, but for this one, I have to be SUPER SERIOUS.

So you'll probably see a grin threatening to break through, all the way through the performance.

user15026

@fbueckert I would crack. So bad. I don't even think I have a serious face

user15026

@spugsley giggles It makes a lovely brain picture, doesn't it?

This one's got a ronde about halfway through that should look quite dramatic.

Although tango, in general, is WELL inside the personal intimacy zone.

So you really gotta know your partner well.

@fbueckert Will it be the same person you waltzed with?

@FAE Hopefully.

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1:39 AM

@fbueckert Yeah, that's why I love it - if done right, you can feel that, and that is what melts me to bits

She still hasn't decided if she wants to continue or not.

Ah gotcha.

Gaming Topics From Outside

If not, I have to find somebody new I can either crash course through the basics, or already knows the steps, and I can get to know well.

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Q: How Does Spaceteam Work?

For those not in the know, Spaceteam is a very popular and very fun multiplayer game for iOS. It allows for real time gameplay among multiple devices on an ad-hoc Wifi network - how does it do this? Are there published libraries describing how to build protocols on top of ad-hoc networking lib...

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@AshleyNunn Yeah. When done right, it's in a whole other ballpark. There's no struggling. There's just effortless dancing.

1:41 AM

@Lazers I'm trying to think of how to word this to make it fine.

asking for unit stats is just not going to work. The questions would become outdated on a regular basis, with nearly every patch.

However,there are some major unit changes made in Heart of the Swarm. Some units got new abilities, and others had some removed.

The HYdralisk, for example, has a new upgrade.

The Void RAy has it's charge mechanic removed.

Question is looking for the right words to capture that.

@Wipqozn What about now?

Also, Carriers were removed.

@RavenDreamer I tweeked it a little more.

@RavenDreamer I thought they were added back in?

Were they?

Pretty sure. Let me check.

Note to self: Do not attempt to download a new nVidia driver the moment it becomes available.

1:46 AM

> Also, meant as a replacement for the Carrier, due to its lack of popularity in Wings of Liberty but it was decided to have both in the game for the time being to see how the new Stargate meta-game develops in Heart of the Swarm.

wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Tempest_%28unit%29

It doesn't seem to cite a source, but Liquipedia is fairly reliable for all things Starcraft.

here is an article

I think the hope is that the new air units they've added will make CArrier a more viable choice.

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@fbueckert It is stuff like that that makes me want to learn to dance. Sadly, I had to abandon that when I couldn't afford the lessons I wanted when I moved to my own place (but the sanity I got from this has benefited me greatly)

Okay, I'm heading to bed.

tortoise swoosh

And I'm headed to tango practice with my sore muscles. Wish me luck!

@FAE this is what I'm doing, playing with the wife and going pretty slow. having a blast so far...

(sorry to drag out an old conversation :P)

I'm a siren, she's a commando

she likes the turret

I like things exploding in a ball of fire-y death

@agent86 So that's what you're calling it, these days?

1:56 AM

@agent86 Woo! Yeah, I'm uh, painfully meticulous about exploring and doing sidequests and crap the first time I run through a game, so I tend to only drag my SOs along to suffer then, haha.

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@fbueckert Good luck! Have fun!

@RavenDreamer hey man, we don't judge. she likes to deploy her turret all up in some business.

@FAE @agent86 We were trying to go back to Captain Flynt after a game-breaking bug, and she noticed an uncovered portion of the map... So we had to go kill a crapton of Bullymongs so she could get the map uncovered.

@FAE I will find every. single. quest. and I will do them all. she likes to find every box and open it and take all the things, so we work together (usually) pretty well.

1:59 AM

@FAE I'm much lower than Ben, and also on my first play through. Give me a ring once you get closer to 20, if you want some friend.

@Fluttershy Hey, we opened up a named area then, so that's part of the exploring achievement, SO THERE.

@FAE YEAH

@agent86 Haha, yeah, I open up all the boxes too.

@FAE sometimes I'm running ahead and don't realize she's stopped for box time

and I'm like OMG BADASS KILLING ME and she's like "man, do I need more sniper rifle bullets? let me check..."

@agent86 <_< Yeah, Jochem and I had some of those moments in BL1. Proooobably gonna happen again.

2:01 AM

time to flit off and handle something that is probably burning elsewhere, bbl, and happy gaming :P

@agent86 That's why you learn to kill Badasses yourself!

@agent86 Later!

I have the only upvoted answer on the goal suggestions meta!

Eat it @BenBrocka

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@OrigamiRobot gives a cookie

@AshleyNunn I HAVE SOME COOKIES - but they are for sale

user15026

2:07 AM

@spugsley Oh, the humanity

@AshleyNunn I know. Every time I pull some out of the oven, I scream "WHHHYYYYY"

user15026

sends you cookies you can eat by helicopter

@AshleyNunn Aw... I wanna eat cookies by helicopter. How does one eat by helicopter?

user15026

@Fluttershy curses the ambiguity of English sentence structure

user15026

pictures @fluttershy on one of those helicopter ladders, holding on with one arm and eating cookies with the free hand

2:15 AM

@AshleyNunn I would look so badass.

user15026

You would! Now we just need to get you a helicopter.]

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How do I get a link from Twitter so I can paste it here?

user15026

> You can bid on Justin Bieber's underwear and support transplant recipients at the same time

user15026

....what.

user15026

WHY IS THIS NEWS, CTV.

Gaming and its Meta - Stack Exchange: FF8 Phoenix Pinion – gaming.stackexchange.com

2:26 AM

@AshleyNunn ...o_O

user15026

@FAE There was an accompanying video link, but it wouldn`t load for me

user15026

Perhaps that was for the best.

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@BenBrocka I know you were mentioning about issues with your voice on YouTube stuff - I saw this, and thought you might be interested. boingboing.net/2013/02/19/yeti-excellent-sub-100-micro.html

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posted on February 20, 2013 by cpburnz

I'm confused about Phoenix being summoned by the "Phoenix Pinon". According to finalfantasy.wikia.com: Summons Phoenix if used in battle, fully reviving all KO'ed allies and dealing Fire damage to …

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Q: Are quintuple kicks possible in Hackycat?

I've played Hackycat on the iPad for a few hours and have had five cats active many times. However, no matter how tightly grouped I have all five cats, I have never observed a "quintuple" bonus. I consistently produce consecutive "quadruple" bonuses with the five cats. Has anyone observed, or k...

hackycat

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

2:53 AM

Just finished the Xeelee Omnibus.

That was some of the best hard sci-fi I've read in a while

And I really like the way each of the seemingly unrelated book ties into each other at the end.

Mana

3:10 AM

@fredley aaaaaaa I have four arms

@AshleyNunn And class got cancelled; not enough people showed up.

@Lazers Why is this a blog post?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@fbueckert @Lazers is a bit messed up lately

I think it didn't recognise the link as a valid question link

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

3:25 AM

*yawn*

user15026

3:37 AM

@fbueckert boo for class canceling. :(

@AshleyNunn I'm kinda glad; sore muscles and all.

user15026

@fbueckert fair enough. Gives you a chance to rest. Sore from shoveling?

@AshleyNunn And stuff on Sunday. Went sliding down hills on innertubes.

user15026

That sounds like it was fun!