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Lazers

19:00

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Q: Koloktos: fastest way to tear apart his heart

When fighting Koloktos, after breaking the cage that covers his chest, should I keep using his giant ali baba sword to slash at his heart, or is it faster to drop it and use my own? I only get about 2 good swings with the giant one, and I could probably get 5 or 6 in at least with my own, but I'...

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Q: Tiamat stacking

Let's say I buy 3 Tiamats. How does that 50%(or 35%) AoE damage stack if I have them. The minion/champions near my main target will get 150%(or 105%) of the damage I deal to my target?

league-of-legends

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote How so?

agent86

@OrigamiRobot well, the meta question is pinned, and I will occasionally remind people in here that stuff's happening in that question they may be interested in. Regardless of what we do, if people want to be jerks, they're going to be jerks.

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot Anyone can go at any point and just make it their first review, and stick by that without tracking updates. Up or down, uniform or not, it's still skewed in that sense.

OrigamiRobot

@agent86 I just think if the objective is to get the best pro-ITG criteria, simply counting upvotes will get you that.

Grace Note

Anecdotally, the number of people who do revisit these things to see updates to the situation are far fewer than those who will just drop by, make a vote, and be on their merry way.

OrigamiRobot

19:05

@GraceNote Yea, I see what you mean. I just want this decision to be made based on what the community truly wants.

agent86

@OrigamiRobot we can take a look at the votes at the end of this and see if there's some amount of trend. downvoting is an integral part of the system though, so I don't want to toss it out prematurely simply because we think people are going to be jerks.

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, but we can't just ignore those who believe that something can't work just because there may be some people who think nothing can work.

OrigamiRobot

I'm just paranoid and I can see methods for unethical anti-ITG people to slant this in their favor.

Grace Note

Much in the same way that unethical pro-ITG people could slant the final decision in their favor?

agent86

@NickT, with respect to existing ITGs, I'd say that's probably another topic altogether. There's probably several paths forward

I think cleaning the bad ones out (like badp/LPMF have been doing) is a good first step

we can evaluate ITGs that have gone unanswered and decide if we think they're still worth having around

Grace Note

19:10

If a policy is established, we should enforce it fully retroactively.

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Juan Manuel

@GraceNote +1

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot I assure you that we anti-ITGers are ethical and responsible adult-like people. If we want to sabotage anything, we'll do it the good old fashioned way with serial user downvoting!

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote No, the way this is structured, there is room for foul play. I don't want to mention what I'm thinking of. It would be horrible for it to happen. Actually what I'm thinking of could happen even if downvotes were omitted.

agent86

@GraceNote if say, the policy I proposed goes into effect, do we close every ITG then?

even answered ones?

Grace Note

@agent86 Theoretically we'd want to fix things up if we could.

OrigamiRobot

19:12

@Sterno I am an anti-ITGer as well. I just believe in ethics over my own opinions.

agent86

@GraceNote yeah, just seems like capital-W Work. we do have many hands, though.

Nick T

@agent86 The one thing I like about your suggestion is that it's objective what's acceptable and not. That's half the reason I hate ITG as it stands

Grace Note

@agent86 It's a necessity.

Juan Manuel

@agent86 meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/4124/…

agent86

@NickT that was the conclusion I came to after much thought and deliberation. the only successful strategy is one where everyone knows immediately what to do.

Grace Note

19:13

@OrigamiRobot Which then means that you really shouldn't concern yourself about it.

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote Like I said, I'm paranoid.

Grace Note

Telling me that isn't going to get me to stop telling you to not worry about it.

We're not going to blind-listen to the process. That'd be foolish.

Nick T

You can not have questions lying around that are in direct opposition to current policy. People will post comments/on meta asking why is this question OK but mine isn't, and we'll endlessly have to say that it used to be acceptable but isn't any more so please don't ask questions like that

Juan Manuel

@NickT exactly

Grace Note

@NickT I'd say "exactly", except Juan already did.

Nick T

19:15

They will have to be blanket closed, then after however long if not fixed, deleted.

agent86

@NickT It seems as though we won't need to discuss this topic further, given the amount of support for this particular course of action :)

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote I know, but I can't just sit back without saying be careful. Even if I'm sure you're already going to be careful.

James

@agent86 Year: I played it in 1986. .. .What about saying Mid-80s.. What about saying Early 90s.. Is PC a good enough platform or do you need OS as well? The problem with ITG posts is that they are by definition vague. Adding more categories for things to be filled in isnt going to help as long as there are no definitions for what an acceptable answer is for those categories.

And Sorry I mean to type that earlier but I had to run to a meeting I had forgotten about :D

StrixVaria

@NickT That helps a lot, but voting is still a complete mess, and Matthew Read's suggestion of deleting wrong answers is a hell of a lot of mod work.

Sterno

I say when they click on identify-this-game to read about the template, instead we just redirect them to MobyGames.

agent86

19:17

@James if the question is poor, downvote it :) if it doesn't follow the template, close it.

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote Well they call can be pretty sweet. Though the blob girl thing isn't very fun

I go love Pitch though, with the golf/RC plane attacks

Nick T

My major gripe on ITG (even with agent's criteria) is that those questions will require orders of magnitude more moderation (by ♦ and 3k+/10k+) than anything else.

Grace Note

@BenBrocka Pitch is the most fun in my opinion (also the most useful in a general sense), while Rick is my favorite.

Ben Brocka

Pitch has the best attacks and freest movement (though Coo is close)

Triple jump is fun with...cat...thing

Grace Note

Nago

Ben Brocka

19:20

I can never rememeber the cat or the fish

Grace Note

Kine

John

@Wipqozn Still waiting on a answer...

Ben Brocka

And that's exactly why I never remember the cat's name

agent86

@NickT I think this is a problem regardless of the criteria. Maybe you should vote to prohibit them when we get to that stage :)

Grace Note

You might say that Kine's the most adorable on my new wallpaper, though.

John

19:21

@ArdaXi Hey! That's my job!

Ben Brocka

Kine is comedic relief

Grace Note

@BenBrocka Kine is why you can't remember Nago's name?

Nick T

@agent86 that's my point

Arda Xi

@John :(

Grace Note

@BenBrocka Yes, and that's (somewhat) embodied.

Ben Brocka

19:21

Yes, it's that dastardly Kine's memory erasing ray

Nick T

@agent86 what if the moderation fails to keep up however?

agent86

@NickT I know. I'm teasing you.

John

@ArdaXi Yeah, that. It's mine! MY PRECIOUSSSSSSS

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote does he have the lightbulb?

That attack is so perfect

Arda Xi

@John ﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿ Okay...

agent86

19:22

@NickT I read all the ITG questions, and I think Oak probably does too. I can't really act under the current policy, though.

John

@ArdaXi I'm watching LOTR for the first time. I couldn't resist.

Grace Note

@BenBrocka Alas, no she doesn't.

James

@ArdaXi ... The hell is that?

John

I finally understand "You shall not pass!" now.

Arda Xi

@James Sad owl.

agent86

19:23

if we had a policy that was clear cut, I could close with reckless abandon, khekhekhe!

James

@John Have you or have you not read the books?

John

@ArdaXi You can keep the owl, though.

James

@John I am guessing Not :D

John

@James I have not.

Ben Brocka

@ArdaXi ORLY?

agent86

19:23

this is all part of a secret plan for me to get to close ALL THE QUESTIONS

John

@James Heheh, yeah.

agent86

it's so secret, that even now that you know the plan, it's still a secret.

James

@John Books are Infinitely better.. the movies follow the story of the ring pretty well, but not the complete story.

Ronan Forman

@Arda Okay you're right. I notice it now.

Nick T

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lol

John

19:25

@RonanForman I was about to ask you if you wanted to play Asteroid 5251 right now, then you disappear, and you come back as soon as I start playing with someone else...

@James :(

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote link to wall paper?

James

@John Hey now, just cause something else might be Very good doesn't make good things worse. If you are enjoying the movies, I am just hinting you might really enjoy the books :)

Grace Note

@BenBrocka I'll just fetch the original image.

James

They are also very easy to read.

Ronan Forman

@John I'm free practically all tomorrow.

Playing asteroid with someone else?

OrigamiRobot

19:26

@RonanForman @John But I wanna play our map T_T

Ben Brocka

Hm any of the Youtube peoples want to do a coop let's play thing soonish? I haven't made a vid in a while...

James

@OrigamiRobot I think you meant @John..

Yeah, hehe :)

@BenBrocka Of what game?

Grace Note

I picked this wallpaper mostly because it is excellent at making people double-take. I imagine the impact will be mighty-lessened thanks to all of the pre-loaded context, though.

Ben Brocka

@James I don't really care, something that's not hard to set up/get into I guess

Grace Note

But when someone just passes by and sees it on my laptop? Worth it just to see the reaction.

Ben Brocka

19:29

@GraceNote That's not exactly what I was imagining

...though it really makes me wish Kine had the lightbulb in her mouth

Grace Note

@BenBrocka It's not what a lot of people would expect, I imagine

Ronan Forman

@Origami It's not my fault you're only free at stupid times my time.

Juan Manuel

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woah

OrigamiRobot

@RonanForman It's not my fault you can't stay up late.

agent86

@JuanManuel yeah, I'm a little sick of the AC series, but I still want :(

Ronan Forman

19:32

@Origami You should talk to @ChrisF about it.

OrigamiRobot

@RonanForman I don't know who that is.

Ronan Forman

My dad...

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot A user. Also his father.

OrigamiRobot

Well, maybe I will!

Wipqozn

@John At class, and no idea what you are talking about.

Ullallulloo

19:35

btw, @John scifi.blogoverflow.com/2012/03/…

James

@agent86 I liked how much like a specific sect of people he looked like in the first game.. Now, he is still wearing that old monk robe and has not ability to blend in what-so-ever.... why? I simply can not figure this out!!

Ben Brocka

@GraceNote is the brown haired one...rick?

Grace Note

@BenBrocka It's Dreamland 2, so it's only the first 3 friends. So yes.

OrigamiRobot

@RonanForman Are you in school during the week?

agent86

@James yeah, you'd think for someone who is trying to blend in, that you'd, y'know, pick an outfit that blends in

Ben Brocka

19:37

I never had Dreamland 2

Arda Xi

@Ullallulloo Not sure I'd recommend that to be honest...

Grace Note

@BenBrocka You should remedy this.

James

@Ullallulloo RAGE How could they not suggest you watch Blink first!!! ARG :)

Grace Note

If only because Kine's lightbulb is better in Dreamland 2.

Ronan Forman

@Origami Yes. But it's mainly because he wants to use te computer.

Ben Brocka

19:39

Did they ever make a portable virtual console for DSi/ect? I'll be getting a 3DS eventually...

OrigamiRobot

@RonanForman Hm, I'm not sure how much I can help there.

Ronan Forman

Ask him nicely.

Grace Note

@BenBrocka Not that I know of.

Foxtrot

I don't know if this should be a posted question... Because it might not have an answer: Does anyone know how to deter team stacking on Battlefield 3? I am a higher ranked individual with admin access to our servers and a controversial topic keeps on coming back to us.

We have multiple popular servers and we want to keep them populated as we pay for them. But How can we prevent team stacking? Normally our clan will dominate the server ( as we are all on TeamSpeak, coordinate our tactics, and dominate the pugs)... But this hurts our reputation...

We have a scrambling script on our server to mix up players but it does not break up squads ( so we are all in a few squads). Anyone have any input? or should this be posted on gaming.stackexchange ?

agent86

@Foxtrot argh, you would not believe the amount of time I've spent on this question

Grace Note

19:42

@Foxtrot If the answer is "no, there is no method of doing this", then that's an answer.

agent86

for TF2 specifically

Ronan Forman

@Origami Literally all he uses the computer for is SE (he's that sad) so getting him suspended would do the trick.

agent86

months. months of effort on that question.

Foxtrot

@agent86 We have told each other that we need to mix it up and switch teams. Or using our admin controls to do it. But then this then raises the topic: its our server, and our clan. We should be able to play together.

@GraceNote I just don't want it to get closed. :/

Grace Note

@Foxtrot It won't be closed if the only problem is "No one knows that this is possible". It'd just be unanswered in that respect.

OrigamiRobot

19:44

@RonanForman What if I convinced him that you playing MC was crucial to the continued operation of SE?

Foxtrot

Our leader has said that team stacking is fine on different other servers. We can go and clear them out if we happen to dominate them. etc. But we seem to come back to team stacking in the end. I will admit to this.

Grace Note

We have close reasons for a reason, and "We don't know the answer" isn't one of them.

Foxtrot

@GraceNote Thank you for the input

Nick T

Do 12 or 24 people compete in The Hunger Games? The movie trailer said 2 (boy/girl) from each district, but a ton of stuff I've read online says 12 people; is that what the book did?

Foxtrot

@agent86 any advice at all for the situation?

@GraceNote I mostlikely will post it then.

Ronan Forman

19:46

@Origami That might work.

Nick T

@Foxtrot "come at me bro?"

agent86

@Foxtrot if you post it, I will share, although you're unlikely to like the outcome :)

Foxtrot

@NickT lol ??? what?

Ronan Forman

Great, I've been snitched on, dammit Grace/agent!

Fabian

@RonanForman You do know that being suspended doesn't do anything to moderators? You'll have to get him dediamonded for that to work

Grace Note

19:47

Neither of us, actually.

Foxtrot

@agent86 lol hmmmm as long as it doesn't get closed, any input is constructive input for me.

Aarthi

@NickT those things are wrong; each of the districts provides two tributes. 12 x 2 = 24 people.

Nick T

@Foxtrot weren't you asking about The Situation?

Ronan Forman

Oh, maybe it was Aarthi.

agent86

@Foxtrot It might take me a little bit of time before I can answer it, I've got a meeting soonish

Ronan Forman

19:49

Arrg! Fabian where are you coming from?!

Aarthi

@RonanForman I didn't snitch, I was told to answer @NickT's question. Hahaha.

Nick T

@Aarthi k, got it

OrigamiRobot

Don't get @RonanForman in trouble! I want to play MC late at night with him!

Fabian

@RonanForman I'm always lurking on the Bridge ;-)

Foxtrot

@NickT lol I never have watched Jersey Shore. I think my life is better without watching it

@agent86 I will wait for your post :)

Nick T

19:52

@Foxtrot you've never heard of Come At Me Bro though?

knowyourmeme.com/memes/come-at-me-bro

Foxtrot

@NickT Yes I have heard of that though lol I have said it before within that meme. I just didn't pick up why you were referencing it to my post lol

Lazers

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Q: How do I disable PvP in regions using WorldGuard?

I am running in to some problems when users kill each other in their homes. How can I configure the WorldGuard plugin to disable PvP in regions?

minecraft hosting bukkit plugins

Ronan Forman

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Please everyone share around this video, the future of the YouTube channel depends on it.

Nick T

Single player? meh :P

OrigamiRobot

@NickT dot dot dot

Nick T

20:05

Multiplayer Lets Play seems more interesting

OrigamiRobot

Can't tell if serious.

Ronan Forman

I didn't think I would ever trick anyone with that.

Nick T

eh, just saw the first couple seconds

Foxtrot

@agent86 gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/53476/…

OrigamiRobot

@RonanForman You're a better actor than you thought.

Foxtrot

20:07

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Q: Clan Team stacking in Battlefield 3

I am a higher ranked individual with admin access to our servers and a controversial topic keeps on coming back to us: How do we deter team stacking on Battlefield 3 on our own servers? We have multiple popular servers and we want to keep them populated as we pay for them. But How can we prev...

pc battlefield-3 origin

I hope I worded that correctly ^^^^^^

Ronan Forman

Does it have no thumb nail for anyone else?

Nick T

@RonanForman trick anyone with what, just a cut after "loading" to some SMP?

sorry, I'm not clever enough to notice that you didn't create a SSP world

Ronan Forman

It was more my terrible acting, and I did actually create that world.

Michael Mrozek

> The creeper blew up. Coward

OrigamiRobot

@MichaelMrozek All the creepers were scared of @RonanForman. They kept suiciding.

Michael Mrozek

20:13

I've never played Minecraft, so this is some kind of sorcery. I can't imagine how you remember the crafting patterns

StrixVaria

@MichaelMrozek It's intuitive!

You just draw what you're trying to build.

At least, that's how it was way way back.

Now it's all just completely jumbled.

I have to keep the wiki open when I play.

David B

so - who's staying up to play ME3 tonight? :)

Nick T

@RonanForman fixed group for LP? when do you record?

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria I always have the wiki open.

@NickT Weekends. Go suggest a challenge!

badp

@MichaelMrozek You cheat the items in directly

Ronan Forman

20:17

We should get @John livestream it.

badp

that's what real pros do

Ronan Forman

Well I'm recording and Origami's hosting, so it has to be him.

OrigamiRobot

@RonanForman My personal goal is to build a drowning trap with a snowman to lure mobs in. It will deliver the loot directly into our base.

Nick T

@OrigamiRobot There a post? Is the group fixed?

Lazers

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Q: How do we prevent Clan Team stacking?

I am a higher ranked individual with admin access to our servers and a controversial topic keeps on coming back to us: How do we deter team stacking on Battlefield 3 on our own servers? We have multiple popular servers and we want to keep them populated as we pay for them. But How can we prev...

pc battlefield-3 origin

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Q: Giving Battle.net realm items to an open character

I've found some good necromancer items on a Battle.net realm with my sorceress. I know the opposite is not possible, but is there any hack to give these items to a friend who plays single player and TCP/IP games?

diablo-2 battle.net

Ronan Forman

20:24

YouTube comments, and probably.

murgatroid99

@RonanForman I made a suggestion for your base

OrigamiRobot

@NickT Comment on the video. I'm sure we could arrange for a guest every now and then.

@murgatroid99 Stone Treehouse, eh?

murgatroid99

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, I think that would be pretty cool. Plus you would have to use all of your coal to make smooth stone

OrigamiRobot

@murgatroid99 Unless we get a silk touch enchantment

murgatroid99

@OrigamiRobot Either way, it would take some time, but I think it should be pretty safe from mobs so far off the ground

OrigamiRobot

20:28

@murgatroid99 Do mobs spawn on leaf blocks anymore?

murgatroid99

@OrigamiRobot I have no idea. Not if there's a house in the way

Nick T

giant donut, nuff said

plus you can make it out of dirt

Sterno

Someone in my office has been stealing iPods and things off desks. I now wish to concoct an elaborate sting operation involving webcams.

Nick T

name it Timmy Ho's

murgatroid99

@NickT What about a ladder from the tree house to the giant donut

agent86

20:34

@Sterno make sure it runs after hours... we busted our security guy stealing cameras one night in a place where I used to work.

StrixVaria

@Sterno I hate when people change their gravatars.

It's too confusing.

murgatroid99

@StrixVaria Didn't you change yours a few weeks ago?

Sterno

@StrixVaria I like my new one, but it's awfully hard to see in chat.

StrixVaria

@murgatroid99 SHHHHHH

murgatroid99

@Sterno That's what I thought

OrigamiRobot

20:35

@StrixVaria I hate it when two people use similar looking gravatars. (@GraceNote and @BenBrocka)

StrixVaria

@murgatroid99 Mine is still GIR, though. It's not completely different.

Ben Brocka

...Mine looks like Grace note?

murgatroid99

@StrixVaria It's still a different picture that looks different

StrixVaria

1 min ago, by StrixVaria

@murgatroid99 SHHHHHH

Grace Note

@BenBrocka I haven't been able to understand it, either, since the primary color of your Red Nose there (grey) is not even prominent on Toybox Girl here.

Ben Brocka

20:37

Are we seeing the same gravatars? I don't see how the TapTap looks like that anime girl

murgatroid99

@StrixVaria You know what, I just miss your old one, OK?

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote They both have similarly not-prominent red parts.

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot Red is actually a prominent color on Toybox Girl.

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote Not when it's a tiny image.

StrixVaria

@murgatroid99 I can change it back...

Ben Brocka

20:39

I still just think you're insane :P

Nick T

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My, has TED grown.

Ben Brocka

The contours are rather distinct

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot It's present in the center, the bottom, the top, and the right.

@BenBrocka Yours is also directed up-right as far as flow (thanks to the raised foot), while mine is down-right (thanks to her standing angle)

Nick T

That stadium looks like it holds >200k people

murgatroid99

@StrixVaria you don't have to change it for me. I just think the other one was a better picture of dog suit GIR, especially when it was small

StrixVaria

20:41

The other one is a better picture of GIR, but it doesn't have a piggy :(

user30

maaaan

user30

almost got an EOD bot kill

Sterno

I just updated my gravatar painting in some color. Maybe that will help!

murgatroid99

@StrixVaria GIR deserves more prominence than the piggy

Grace Note

@Sterno You changed again? What happened to Scrooge?

Sterno

20:43

@GraceNote With the name Sterno, a PipBoy icon of fire seemed way more appropriate

Grace Note

@Sterno I'm... not actually sure why.

Sterno

PipBoy = fallout = gaming. Fire = Sterno!

OrigamiRobot

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot The circles aren't even in the same areas!

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot are you only able to see red things in the bottom half of images or something?

Grace Note

20:46

@Sterno ...not seeing that second one, but it could just be unfamiliarity.

OrigamiRobot

Doesn't matter. There are two and they are red. Same.

Ben Brocka

I think your visual processor needs some upgrading

Grace Note

Massive upgrading.

Sterno

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OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka I told you my pattern recognition software is very simple.

Sterno

20:47

My internet name was born of my career in room service (at the time)

Grace Note

Should upgrade that

Lazers

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Q: Number of required Baalruns to level up

How many hell Baalruns does a character need to level up from 80 to 81, then 81 to 82, ... 98 to 99. Does anyone have a proper estimate?

diablo-2

agent86

wow, this company needs to hire some serious PR people, STAT.

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Sterno

@Lazers I'm not so sure that's actually a question that should be closed. It seems answerable with Science!™

GnomeSlice

Well, that's it. The internet is finished. Shut it down. Shut it all down.

OrigamiRobot

20:58

@Sterno Too many variables

Ronan Forman

@Sterno But science is hard

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot That's where averages come in.

Raven Dreamer

Anyone think a "Gaming's Faces of Commander Shepherd" would be neat to make a collage out of?

user30

@GnomeSlice Is this new to you?

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot Just because it would be a lot of work to answer doesn't mean it's unanswerable.

OrigamiRobot

20:59

@Sterno It's not that it is work. It's that there are too many different things that affect the XP from a Baal Run

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot What's your optical resolution, like 4 pixels?

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