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6:13 PM
Basically, I'm a lot closer to a gold tag badge on BCG by net answer score than by answer count, so if I want the badge (which I do), I am incentivized to post and keep answers that I expect to have net negative score.
 
I have a friend who insists "github" should be two words and for some reason that drives me crazy
 
@AshleyNunn gi-thub?
 
@AshleyNunn Response: it's a proper name of a company: the spelling is determined by that company
 
@murgatroid99 That's what I said, and pointed to the site where it is clearly one word but apparently since I am not a programmer I have no idea what I am talking about. She's like "you don't even know what it is, how can you know how they spell it"
a) I know what it is and b) I looked at the site.
 
@AshleyNunn that doesn't even make any sense. How can you argue with a company's website about how to spell that company's name?
 
6:16 PM
@murgatroid99 I think it is more she wants me to be wrong because I am not in a fancy college mobile app programming program like her so I am inferior
or something
 
@AshleyNunn you'll have the last laugh when she ends up making mobile crapware out of school :D
 
@MattGiltaji She's aiming for Google
Make of that what you will.
 
@AshleyNunn everyone aims for google, most don't get in
but google's mobile apps are pretty solid
 
isn't github a hub of git's?
 
@MattGiltaji Oh, this I know. Which is why I am just being darkly amused over here
@MattGiltaji They are, but she's....not.
 
6:19 PM
@Chippies It's a hub for git repositories
 
I mean if she somehow makes it, good for her, but.....
 
@murgatroid99 sooo, a hub of gits :>
a git hub!
git rep hub maybe
 
@Chippies a hub of .git directories
 
@Chippies "hub of gits" isn't a phrase that has meaning
 
@murgatroid99 well, it's the same as git hub
but I guess git rep hub would make more sense
 
6:20 PM
@Chippies I'm not even sure if you're trying to make a point
 
@murgatroid99 just throwing in a different pov
 
GitHub is a name. Period. That's the only thing that matters regarding spelling
 
@murgatroid99 100% agree with that
but I can understand why someone would think it could or should be spelt separately
@murgatroid99 also, the capitalized letters kinda imply that those are two words as well
 
@Chippies Sure, I can understand how someone might make such a mistake until they look at the website, but arguing that a name is spelled wrong is just dumb
 
but of course you wouldn't spell a company name separately if it's spelt as one word
 
6:23 PM
@Chippies You've never seen a name with a capital at a letter other than the first?
 
@murgatroid99 as company names (is there a generic word for those?) and such, yeah
 
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@murgatroid99 that's due to language stuffs though
 
@murgatroid99 +1 for neil degrasse tyson
 
@Chippies OK, I'm still not sure what point you're trying to make.
 
6:25 PM
@murgatroid99 again, not trying to make any point
 
take it easy... :)
cc @Wipqozn
 
@Chippies ok
 
@AshleyNunn you're smart with words! What's a generic word for stuff like company names and stuff like that?
this conversation made me curious
 
@Chippies "Proper noun"?
 
@murgatroid99 ah, I felt like "proper word" would be it, but googling that made it seem wrong
proper noun makes more sense
 
6:27 PM
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> When asked about the report, a YouTube representative declined to comment to Ars and instead sent us an animated GIF of a little girl shrugging her shoulders. (No, seriously. This one.)
 
@Chippies generally they're just proper nouns
 
@murgatroid99 adorable
 
6:32 PM
@AshleyNunn yep, that's what I thought, except for some reason my brain was giving me "proper word" and that was close, but not right at all
 
Man. The Portal 2 soundtrack. So amazing :D
 
@MattGiltaji This is the worst meme.
 
@Chippies yeah, close but not quite right.
 
@Chippies Poor @GnomeSlice. I bet he was going to post that when he came in,a nd we'd be all "holy crap @GnomeSlice that's amazing!" but now he'll probably beat you up for stealing his thunder.
Because System Shock 2 makes that bundle worth it. That game is amazing.
 
@Wipqozn knowing him, he'll probably post it anyway, but with a bunch of autocorrect "improvements" and we'll star it anyway
 
6:34 PM
@RPiAwesomeness i didn't like the ending song as much as "still alive"
 
@MattGiltaji Yeah. The ending song on the first one is better.
I think I liked the first one better story-wise. Puzzles and length-wise, Portal 2 is obviously the better of the two.
 
The Portal 2 soundtrack was too noisy for the most part, the actual song songs were good though
 
Man. There are times I wish I had Windows just for a couple games :(
STALKER looks cool
 
> In glad for competition... But I've had about enough of Google. I don't want them intersecting any more of my life.

p.s.: I didn't really mean it Google Fiber, I love you please come to my home town!

p.p.s.: I hate you Google.
comments on ars are fun
 
@MattGiltaji This is a very confusing set of statements :P
 
6:37 PM
@RPiAwesomeness piracy is always the answer! (Except when it's not)
 
@Chippies lol
 
> I don't want Google in my life unless it makes my life better
 
@murgatroid99 google generally does make my life better, so yeah
 
OH, WERE WE TALKING ABOUT SUPER TROOPERS BECAUSE OF THE INDIEGOGO COMPAIGN?
 
@OrigamiRobot yes
 
6:39 PM
Goodness. What engine is STALKER Clear Sky running on? Is that Gold?
 
@Chippies I kind of want this bundle now, but I'll probably forget by the time I get home
 
... might be a quake?
 
@RPiAwesomeness not sure what you mean by Gold and I'm not sure on Clear Sky, but STALKER has its own engine
 
@murgatroid99 i set an appointment in my phone for this kind of stuff
 
iirc Clear Sky is one of the weaker games in STALKER series, I could be wrong though
 
6:40 PM
@Chippies Gold Source
@Chippies I see
 
@RPiAwesomeness STALKER is way newer than that
 
@Chippies That's what I thought
 
it looks much better than that as well
 
7:02 PM
Stalker had its own engine. It was kind of a machine-killer when it first came out.
 
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Abby T. Miller on March 25, 2015

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So what’s new? David went to London. (We have an office there. It’s awesome and it has graffiti on the walls.) David flew out to meet the London marketing team, spend time with some of our European developers, and get knighted. Probably. …

 
Stalker was a huge disappointment for anyone who followed its development at least a bit
the plans for it were insane, but the final version cut pretty much everything that would have made it the best game ever
 
Yep. Chunks of it are still in the code that mods tried to finish.
 
7:24 PM
> THQ ran a competition in January 2007 offering the winners the chance to play the beta version of S.T.A.L.K.E.R., in a 24 hour marathon session. The event, scheduled to take place on January 24, 2007, was subsequently changed to a 12 hour session days before it was supposed to occur. On the morning of the event, the winners were met at the venue by the THQ staff that had organized the event, who were embarrassed to report that they had been unable to get any copies of the game.
> In January '07 GSC wasn't even able to provide a working copy of the game. And it wend gold on March 2nd. 39 days later!
heh
anyways, gotta go help make foods...
 
@Fluttershy I wonder how they'll get all of the licenses
 
@Fluttershy Two things - they're making a BFG movie? And....I want to say this will turn out awesome but I am nervous
 
I loved the book, but when I read it I remember thinking "how the hell did that game license basically every copyrighted thing ever without going broke"
 
@murgatroid99 It was a dystopian society, so I'd say the rules were different. Or the license holders were so enthralled by the game that they just handed them over. :P
 
7:29 PM
@Fluttershy I thought it became dystopian after the game was created, though I don't really remember that detail
And the more important question now is "how much of that stuff will the movie be able to license?"
I feel like it loses some of its appeal if it doesn't have Voltron fighting Megazord
 
@murgatroid99 That's my main concern.
 
@murgatroid99 WOULD WATCH
 
@OrigamiRobot my point is that that happens in the book, and I'm worried about how they're going to represent it in the movie
 
THEY'LL PROBABLY GIVE EVERYTHING MOHAWKS AND WHEELCHAIRS
 
7:32 PM
I'm excited. That's one of the only books that I didn't put down between when I bought it and when I finished it. I'm just worried that it will be very difficult for the movie to live up to the book
 
@murgatroid99 This is something I am very scared of
 
Having ping spikes of 3 seconds to your fing router is pretty bad right?
 
@AshleyNunn I think just about everything in the game in the book is a property owned by someone else
 
@murgatroid99 It's pretty heavy on that, yes
 
@KevinvanderVelden how far away is the router from the machine you are pinging from?
 
7:37 PM
@MattGiltaji 2 wires
 
@KevinvanderVelden yeah, 3 second lag spike is bad
 
Standard ping is 1ms
Or well "time<1ms"
 
@MattGiltaji Why does that matter?
 
@murgatroid99 to determine how bad it is
 
7:38 PM
@MattGiltaji Unless the router is on the Moon, physical distance shouldn't contribute significantly to lag
 
@murgatroid99 my routers are ALL on the moon
except for the europa one, that's on a different moon
 
I just mentioned the moon because 3 light-seconds is 900,000 km, which is about 75 times the diameter of the earth
 
physical distance is useful for determining magnitude of bad
 
In the case of a router and ping spikes of 3 seconds: No, not really =p
 
@MattGiltaji If your router is anywhere that can be called "yours", 3 seconds of lag is bad
 
7:42 PM
@murgatroid99 fine, fine
 
Of course, this is going to be the main issue when we do have interplanetary internet: the physical lower bound on latency will be very high, compared to what we are used to
So, fun SE incentive structure: a recent (yes/no) question on BCG seemed subjective to me. I posted 2 answers: one for yes and one for no. They both have negative net score, but positive net rep, and I am now 2 questions closer to a gold tag badge.
 
@murgatroid99 interplanetary internet? we are still quite far from that I think
 
@Rapitor true, we just have planet-orbit internet
 
@Rapitor I'd bet on having a moon base within 10 years (with the recent increased interest in privatized spaceflight). That will have the same sorts of issues
 
Which coincidentally has the same issues =p
 
7:52 PM
@murgatroid99 Moon as been pretty much forgotten. mostly everyone is targeting mars/deep space
 
@murgatroid99 It'll depend on the technology we use to broadcast and carry the data.
 
@KevinvanderVelden why 2 wires? How come no one has asked this yet?
 
@Rapitor There was a recent Google-funded challenge to send probes to the moon
 
@Chippies well the actual distinct wire count is more
 
@KevinvanderVelden I don't understand, do you have routers between the cables or what?
 
7:55 PM
But it's PC wire Wireless AP wire, wire in wall, wire Router
@Chippies I have 1 router, 1 wireless access point (4 ethernet ports max), 1 gigabit switch (8 ethernet port)
Both the AP and the switch connect to the router
Via cables in the wall
 
@murgatroid99 yeah i heard about that, some sort of race
 
@KevinvanderVelden is the wireless AP cheap and crappy? is some other device hogging its resources?
 
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@Chippies the wireless AP is awesome
 
7:57 PM
I don't get 3 second lag spikes on wifi even
 
And pinging it is <1ms, pinging the router that is behind it is crap
 
@KevinvanderVelden is it possible to test the lag directly with the router?
 
I do know my way around my network, the lag is the router
 
@Rapitor have you seen the new EP from Rezonate on monstercat?
s/seen/heard
 
@KevinvanderVelden well, it could possibly be the cables in the wall
but probably it's the router
wouldn't hurt to check though
 
7:59 PM
@GnomeSlice was just listening now actually
 
@Rapitor Do I have you on Steam? I'll send you a download.
 
@GnomeSlice nobody has me on steam, for i dont have steam ;)
 
That's what I thought.
 
I don't really "own" music. I just listen to whatever is streaming
 
8:03 PM
Goddammit Java
 
Yes
I don't know where you're going with that, but damn java regardless
 
What do you mean you can't find that class
IT'S RIGHT THERE
I know there's something stupid going on here
 
Wikiwand lets you display in a sans-serif font now.
Nice.
 
There's path problems. Got it
Okay then
 
@elitepeeps who flys/flew an Asp? where are the hardpoints
 
8:07 PM
Got it, I'm an idiot
So apparently, if you set CLASSPATH to something, it erases the default value of . (current directory)
 
...
WELP STARTING THAT OVER (rm *.java!=rm *.class)
Good thing it wasn't too long to do
 
ABEND
@Unionhawk also not too long to do: git init
 
@badp They should fix rm to be undo-able too, tbh.
 
@StrixVaria you can still lose data to mv.
just yesterday I wrote mv file.pl file2.pl instead of the other way around.
 
8:16 PM
@badp Good thing we're not using any version control (that is literally my entire complaint about this class, if you're going to have us collaborate on shit, teach us version control)
 
@Unionhawk they can't prevent you from using any version control.
 
It's true, I'm a victim of my own laziness
 
I had never used any version control until I started my first job. I didn't understand why I would have wanted it on a solo project until I had it. I will never not use git for a coding project again.
 
I forgot that was narrated by George Takei
and also how messed up it is
 
8:32 PM
I sorta want to give this a try.
At least see if it tastes any different.
 
@Yuuki why does it even matter, rice without other things is lame anyway
and once you add things, rice probably has the least calories of everything anyway
 
> White rice consumption, in particular, has been linked to a higher risk of diabetes.
@Chippies You gotta start somewhere.
 
@Yuuki I thought diabetes was mainly linked to sugar stuffs
 
@Chippies The body converts starch to sugar.
 
Human body is weird in an amazing way
 
8:42 PM
Of course, starch is basically just long sugar
 
@murgatroid99 doesn't taste like sugar though
 
@Chippies sugar doesn't taste like coal, but it still has carbon in it
 
@murgatroid99 well if you put it that way, most of everything is made of the same stuff anyway
 
@Chippies seriously, though, starch is basically a chemically linked chain of sugar molecules
 
chemistry is weird in an amazing way
 
8:46 PM
@StrixVaria git add -p and git commit --amend ftw
 
<insert anything> is weird in an amazing way
inb4 urmom is weird in an amazing way
 
I don't know why anybody would git add when they can git add -p
 
@Chippies Can we please, please, please stop with urmom references.
 
@badp Why not git add -u?
 
@AshleyNunn sure
 
8:49 PM
@murgatroid99 eh. Maybe if they combined.
 
@badp I've never used -p
 
-p shows you the diff, bit by bit, and asks you what to stage.
 
@badp Well, I almost always want to stage all of my changes since my last commit
 
Sometimes there's the spurious whitespace change
 
@Sterno Did you buy the game jsut to taunt me? Because if so, well done.
 
8:51 PM
Sometimes there's more than a thing I've changed, and I can commit one but not the other
Most of the times however git add -p forces you to reread what you're committing.
That's basically good practice.
 
You can git diff to see everything you've changed
 
I've spotted a few bugs by doing that.
@murgatroid99 Yes. But git add -p shows you the changes bit by bit, and asks you, "do you really want to commit this?"
 
Usually, I just run the tests before committing
 
It forces you to be more careful, and step through the changes.
 
@badp why not just make fewer changes between commits?
 
8:53 PM
@MattGiltaji this, exactly
 
@MattGiltaji because that means interacting too frequently with source control imho.
 
@badp that was valid before dvcs
 
Sometimes your one task can be split in several commits.
The smaller the commit, the easier the merges, the conflict resolution, etc.
@MattGiltaji in dvcs you interact too little with source control because you have to be 200% extra careful that your code broke nothing.
git lets you commit stuff locally and fix it later.
 
you can commit a bunch of times to your local, run tests, pull, more tests, then push
 
If you want to deal with git a lot you can commit and rebase -i your branch every time you change anything
 
8:56 PM
@MattGiltaji and possibly, right before the push, rebase to a single commit
 
@murgatroid99 true, i always forget about that
 
If you want to deal with git a little you can git add -p to split your changes after the fact
either way git is flexible enough to meet your needs, and not the other way around.
...so long as you don't push.
 
git push -f lets you push rebases
after you've pushed the commits
 
so long as no one has git fetched in the meantime.
 
@badp We do forks and pull requests, so the probability of that is basically 0
 
8:58 PM
I mean, it'll still work
but people who merged/rebased/pulled will be SOL.
 

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