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11:00 PM
ACCEPT YOUR @UNIONHAWK SELF
 
my stab-through-the-finger-and-into-the-other-one scars don't match anymore, which sucks
 
@Chippies time to make a new one that does match!
 
See? even your scars are now wrong.
 
@MattGiltaji I have a high pain tolerance. I broke my elbow when I was five and the doctor was surprised that I wasn't crying my eyes out. The camp directors didn't even call my mom to pick me up early because they thought I must be okay even though it was all swollen...she wasn't too happy about that.
 
@MattGiltaji that sounds like a great idea! Although I'd rather people think I was dumb as a child, not as an adult
 
11:01 PM
Obviously it didn't break the skin or anything, if it started ingesting my hand that would have been excruciating :P
 
oh god
NO
STAY AWAY
 
IT'S BAAAAAAAAACK
 
KEEP OFF
 
@badp It's coming for you
 
NO ACCESS
 
11:02 PM
@badp you can disable driver updates
 
VERBOTEN
also: current Windows 10 update dialogue status
 
also, non-windows drivers usually override the windows driver updates, afaik
 
@Chippies I just want the standard Windows drivers, which work fine.
not this shitty relic of the '90s
 
@TimStone i don't understand the high pain tolerance thing. does it not hurt or it hurts but doesn't impair your functioning?
 
@badp but the features!!
 
11:03 PM
if there's a setting to disable drivers updates I don't see it :(
 
bridge, I got a medical thing
 
@badp I feel like that option is somewhere else, but I don't remember where... Also, I don't have Windows 10
 
@spugsley it seems today is medical day
 
@MattGiltaji I guess a bit of both? My fiance seems to get really unnerved by things that I'd consider uncomfortable but not the end of the world, so not sure what side the delta's on.
 
@spugsley Oh dear.
 
11:05 PM
@spugsley Put that scalpel down and back away from the children, please.
 
weird back pain. Below my right shoulder blade. There's like a twingy point that Ian found and it hurts to lift my arm or to turn my body. It started while I was sweeping and also after I picked up sticks out of my yard and also hiked with camera equipment. Are shoulder blade nerve twinges a thing?
@TimStone :p
 
@TimStone Usually it means you have less/different pain receptors.
@spugsley Yes!
I have one of those!
 
dude it hurts like a motherfucker
 
@spugsley Are you sure you weren't playing hockey? And aren't my boss?
 
heating pad helps
 
11:06 PM
 
I love that realistic icons became a feature.
Because all the other problems were solved!
 
@spugsley heat for a while, ice for a while, heat for a while, try ibuprofen/mersyndol etc.
 
@badp go to system (computer > properties) -> advanced system settings -> hardware -> device installation settings
 
it's worth it though. The shoot today was amazing
 
assuming win10 hasn't changed it, the settings should be there
 
11:07 PM
 
Try to let it relax and don't keep doing things that make it hurt, because it will get worse.
 
fffffffff
 
@AshleyNunn took ibuprofen, heating pad now, I'll do ice in a bit good idea, and my fingers are a tad tingly, weak...does that sound normal?
 
@spugsley Yeah, sounds like you pinched something
 
@AshleyNunn sitting in a chair propped against a heating pad seems to be best
@AshleyNunn good to know. Thank you <3 it is very weird and has never happened to me
 
11:07 PM
@spugsley make sure ian is feeding you grapes and fanning you with a big leaf :D
 
High Definition Audio Device, bitte.
 
@MattGiltaji well duh
 
so just be careful with it, and if the numbness and tingling in your fingers sticks around (especially if the pain stops) see a doctor
 
@AshleyNunn will do, ty
 
I have lots of lovely nerve pain stuff
 
11:08 PM
@badp you do realize your audio chip is most likely made by realtek, right?
 
@Chippies yes. High Definition Audio Device works perfectly fine.
@Chippies Realtek High Definition Audio drivers hard-freeze my computer.
 
@badp I just don't understand why are you hating the realtek driver so much
 
Consistently.
 
@badp you have a weird computer
 
In a matter of 10 minutes or so.
Nothing is written to the event log.
Ubuntu does not have this issue.
When I am not using those drivers, I do not have this issue.
Those drivers are it.
 
11:10 PM
@badp were you using those drivers from windows update or realtek website?
 
@Chippies The former. Windows just decided to install them.
I've been using the generic drivers happily since I've installed Windows 8 on this thing months ago.
 
weird, drivers installed through windows update should generally be safe
 
dammit windows 10 + Broadcom Wlan won't work ><
 
I don't give a fuck about 5.1 dolby surround, much less blurry 5.1 dolby surround headphone simulation.
 
@IndieGameStand has a sexy little sales widget now. #gamedev people, check it out! http://puu.sh/gPAJN/430a58e11c.jpg
 
11:12 PM
@Serverfrog D:
Dual booting for the rescue!
 
and then like 1 week later humble changes their widget to also include bitcoin
 
@KevinvanderVelden Wait, why is @Flyk becoming famous?
Also, HI CHAT
 
@badp yhea... dam it... tablet xD
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz HELLO you u-bahn-faring individual.
 
@badp I am several hundred miles from das U-bahn
 
11:13 PM
:(
 
YAAAAY PILLARS IS FULLY DOWNLOADED YAAAAAY.
 
I guess then that I'll save my ur bahn line for another time.
 
6 hours ago, by Fluttershy
@LessPop_MoreFizz I feel like I'm missing something. I've not received anything from Pillars of Eternity other than emails about updates. Should I have my key already? Or anything, really?
 
@Fluttershy Key is on product page on obsidian site
 
Dear people who just text message spammed me: Learn to spell. "Shopers" is not a word
 
11:16 PM
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz "No products owned."
 
@AshleyNunn but on meh it is. Meh. Not even once.
 
@Fluttershy Go to Manage Pledges... is your Pledge linked?
 
I WILL BE HERE ALL NIGHT FOLKS
 
You need to 'buy' your reward on the pledge management page iirc.
 
11:17 PM
actually I gotta go.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Aaaah. That's what I was missing! Thanks!
 
@badp So you're saying you're a liar.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz dammit, 9 am pst? that feels like hours away
 
@MattGiltaji It's literally 14 hours away.
Well, 13.75.
 
ok seriously
why is FFXIII:Lightning returns not showing me the upgrade materials / options that all the guides talk about
I've beaten the boss, loaded the save, made a new save, blah blah win win
 
11:20 PM
@djsmiley2k I know of a great site where you can ask questions like that
 
I am sad. The pudding is gone.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Preload commencing!
 
@murgatroid99 sadly msot of my questions never get answered ¬_¬
 
@Fluttershy I am kind of irritated that I needed to choose Steam over GOG to do this, but it is a fair price to pay I suppose.
 
@djsmiley2k The fact is, though, that there are only 32 people in this chat room, so you're even less likely to get your question answered here than there
 
11:21 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Ah, yeah... It's dumb that you can only download the game once. :( I understand why, but it's still dumb.
 
@murgatroid99 at least one of them has played the game and regularly talks to me about these types of games. :D
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz TIL steam could do this preloading business
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz You could also just wait a bit and download it from GoG later
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm saying my waking hours of night have come to an end. This tab will remain open however throughout
 
@GnomeSlice HERESY!
 
11:23 PM
This should be a suitable compromise
 
@GnomeSlice But then I would not be able to play the game in approximately 13.66 hours.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz how would you preload a DRM free game?
 
@badp With a launcher or downloader or something I would imagine.
But I mean the very act of locking it out would be DRM
 
@badp Allow downloading of everything but the .exe?
 
You probably would be able to by just downloading the game files now and the executables later I guess
but people would still take the game files and reverse engineer them
 
11:25 PM
And given that this hotels internet connection took like... 18 hours to download the game...it would be closer to 30 hours before I could play it. And given that I like to maintain semi-normal sleep schedules it'd really be closer to 40 hours before I could play it. Minimum.
 
anything for an early peek
 
So waiting to download from GOG would be dumb.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz It's not like you would die if you waited an extra day or two.
Plus you would get to keep your DRM-Free copy of the game
 
@GnomeSlice No, but I would be sad.
 
only for two days
then you would be happy you didn't have to use Steam
 
11:26 PM
@GnomeSlice I think you overestimate my level of dislike for steam.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz just keep in mind that you'll still need a live internet connection at release, plus once a week, but I figure you already knew all this
 
Maybe, you mentioned it so I assumed it was worth something to you
 
I like Steam quite a bit actually. In fact, for anything I don't intend to play mainly on OS X I'd go so far as to say I prefer it.
 
Oh I see, Mac.
Steam is pretty nice most of the time
 
@badp live internet connection is no big deal. It's just a very very very very slow internet connection for a 12 gb download.
@GnomeSlice It is, but the mac client is kind of bad.
 
11:27 PM
steam for mac
I didn't even know that was a thing
cool
How long has it been out?
 
/me glances at lazers
y so slow :/
 
Weird, I have no particular complaints about the Linux client and I would have figured it was a port of OSX's
@GnomeSlice a few years more than steam for Linux. Perhaps four or five years now?
 
Oh
Maybe I did know about that then.
 
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Q: No 'upgrade' weapons / shields at forges - Final Fantasy XIII: Lightning Returns

djsmiley2kSo I've beaten the boss, watched the credits and saved. Selected load the save, choose normal mode. Do the first quest; gates opened blah blah blah. Go directly to the forge - no upgrade option shown. Go to the adventuring essentials guy - no upgrade materials sold here. Why do I not seem to...

 
11:31 PM
@Fluttershy what do you mean "download only once"? o.O
 
Man my program coordinator in college looked spookily like Gabe Newell
@Chippies you probably get the choice of either GoG or Steam, is what he meant (I think)
KSP did that, you could convert your DRM free copy to a steam one but you lost the ability to download the standalone one
 
@GnomeSlice that makes sense, but that wording tho
 
Ooooooh this happened at the same time as that week when Portal was free
That was basically when I really started using Steam
 
@badp That was when I made my steam account.
I have still never played Portal on Steam.
 
11:34 PM
The pain of pirating Portal stood in stark contrast with the ease of just owning it for reals and I've basically been a paying customer since.
 
I played it in the Orange Box instead.
 
cc @Wipqozn @StrixVaria @Chippies
 
I've had my steam account since june 2007, when I got free HL2 DM with my gpu, didn't actually use steam until august 2013
 
speaking of portal you guys should play Magrunner
 
@OrigamiRobot why are all of these places called heights when they are at the same elevation as the rest of the town?
 
11:35 PM
@OrigamiRobot the free-hand roads fascinate me, because that's something I suck at
 
I have no idea how or why Valve's own games were so obtusely hard to get running back then
Well I know why
 
@badp on Linux? or Windows?
 
@Chippies I hate the road tool
 
@Chippies on yarr-harr. Also Windows
 
I wish it would let you plan a whole road before you place it
 
11:36 PM
@OrigamiRobot yeah, it could use some improvements
 
and copy/paste sections
 
@badp I don't recall any trouble pirating Portal or any valve game
the only trouble I had was with Portal 2 coop crashing on last level
 
I guess I used lousy cracks then. Every time I had to mess with game fires of some kind
Eventually I did manage but it was far less seamless than the average solution that just worked
It's okay though — it's better this way
 
pirating games is just so easy, often easier than dealing with drm
steam and the awesome sales is the main reason why I buy games nowadays
 
Just think what would've happened if Steam launched as US-only
while relying on traditional publishers everywhere else
 
11:39 PM
@badp Somebody else would have come along and copied them for the rest of the world
 
@badp that would be a really dumb thing to do
 
read: GMG
 
Origin or uPlay would've been a thing long ago then
 
@Chippies and yet we still don't really have an equivalent for any other kind of content
Maybe iTunes?
Maybe.
 
@badp gaming is relatively modern, whereas other content is not
movies and music have always been controlled by major publishers
 
11:40 PM
@badp Desura.
Although it's on the way out.
iTunes.
 
@GnomeSlice what's on desura other than games?
 
@Chippies Yeah, I meant what @GnomeSlice said. :P
 
@Chippies Oh.
 
And yet most stuff is on Netflix or Hulu or whatever other us-only thing
 
@Chippies but steam does drm so much better than origin and uplay
 
11:41 PM
and if you are in the UK then there's the iPlayer and maybe Netflix?
 
uplay is always interfering while i try to play assassin's creed
 
Weeeeeird
 
@MattGiltaji if origin and uplay had existed 10 years ago, a) they may have improved more and b) you'd have no choice if you weren't in the steam region
 
did the boss again, loaded the save and this time it's enabled the forges for upgrading ¬_¬ wtf was that all about :/
 
every country is different, no two markets are the same. But the bytes are
 
11:42 PM
FUCK
BBC FIRED CLARKSON
 
FRIED HIM YOU SAY?
TO PEICES YOU SAY?
INTO THE SUN YOU SAY?
 
@GnomeSlice who?
 
Oh Dear.
 
@MattGiltaji I completed a pirated version of Watch_Dogs couple of days before the official launch and we all know how much trouble even getting the game to run people who actually bought that game had for days after launch
 
11:43 PM
Oh no! That show that I don't watch won't be on anymore. :(
 
@Chippies why would you do that to yourself
 
Seriously though... Kinda dumb of BBC to fire the presenter of one of the most watched shows in the world.
 
@badp it was hyped and I wanted to play something while the rest of the world was playing GTA V on their damn consoles
it wasn't a horrible game, but it was no more than just okay. It was horribly optimized though
 
@Fluttershy He punched out a producer.
over a steak dinner
 
> According to the BBC investigation, Mr. Clarkson had unleashed a verbal tirade lasting 20 minutes followed by a 30-second physical assault on a producer. The assault resulted in swelling and a bloodied lip and sent the producer to the emergency department of a hospital in northern England.
 
11:45 PM
if it was available on steam without uplay and cost 10-15$, at the time I would have bought it, probably
 
@Fluttershy ... He sent someone to a hospital.
 
@Chippies I've played SR3 and SR4 and I do not need more sandboxes in my life
 
@badp I actually played SR3 and SR4 after Watch_Dogs, I was stuck on SR2 and it was boring
 
My only problem with this is that they waited so long. That and the way their own news covered it.
 
@GnomeSlice After having nothing but booze on-set all day, and the promise of a hot meal after shooting, which was not delivered. That'd make anyone grumpy. Doesn't mean it's right that he punched someone, but it was still pretty dumb of the BBC to fire him completely.
Top Gear is pretty much finished now, since the other two won't do it without him.
 
11:46 PM
eventually I decided to skip the rest of SR2 and went for SR3 and that was a great decision
 
@Fluttershy Yeah I know.
@Fluttershy I've heard rumors Stephen Fry could be his replacement, but I doubt the show will last much longer without him.
 
...oh, THAT Jeremy Clarkson from THAT TV show
RIP
 
@GnomeSlice They want him to, yeah. But the other two guys whose names I can't remember already said they wouldn't do the show without Clarkson.
 
What, really?
Oh shit.
 
tbh top gear was dying anyway
 
11:47 PM
@GnomeSlice I doubt Stephen Fry is that big into cars as Clarkson
 
Yeah you might as well be watching Top Gear Australia at that point
 
as much as he's 'into' technology?
 
"much as I think he's a knob, I quite like working with Jeremy"
 
AHHH FIRST PHOTO DONE LOOK AT MY MODEL SHE IS PERFECT
 
11:51 PM
@OrigamiRobot You seem to be doiunbg well
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@spugsley hawt pic
 
@spugsley She looks like she's trying not to smile.
 
@GnomeSlice I guess it's hard to argue with that
His hands are tied.
 
@badp It sure is. :(
 
@GnomeSlice lol she had a case of the giggles :p
 
11:53 PM
@badp That is exactly what May said in the next video I linked.
@spugsley First time camera model?
 
Stay tuned for Clutch Six on ITV
 
@GnomeSlice yup :) part of a body positive project I'm working on with a local hair/makeup artist
 
@Wipqozn I have a sudden urge to write an autocorrect mangler script.
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Input a sentence and receive something @GnomeSlice would type on the bus.
 
@Yuuki i would use that
for duck shake
 
@Yuuki I meant to fix that, but then I didn't.
 
11:56 PM
@spugsley She looks good. You can barely tell she has no soul (ginger joke, please don't hurt me, it's not serious, I promise).
 
LOL
 
@Yuuki lol all good. I'm a ginger too and I can confirm we don't have souls.
 
I need dis.
 
@Yuuki I dunno, the eyes kind of give it away, IMO.
@Fluttershy que es
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz you can always tell by the eyes with gingers
 
11:57 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Bloodborne.
 
totally soulless
 
Specifically, a hunter in Bloodborne using the Whip Cane.
 
Also, @Fluttershy @Sterno @MattGiltaji @other pillars people what are you rolling first?
 
Which is a sword cane that turns into a whip.
@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm not sure. I don't even know what classes there are.
 
My current inclination is gunslinging Cipher
 
11:58 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz i want to try an all godlike chanter party
 
@Fluttershy I'm sure there's a wiki somewhere.
 
@MattGiltaji I am saving gimmick stuff like that for later plays. (There will be an All Bleak Walkers Using Big Fuck Off Guns party.)
 

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