The Bridge

6:13 PM

Basically, I'm a lot closer to a gold tag badge on BCG by net answer score than by answer count, so if I want the badge (which I do), I am incentivized to post and keep answers that I expect to have net negative score.

user15026

I have a friend who insists "github" should be two words and for some reason that drives me crazy

Matt Giltaji

@AshleyNunn gi-thub?

murgatroid99

@AshleyNunn Response: it's a proper name of a company: the spelling is determined by that company

user15026

@murgatroid99 That's what I said, and pointed to the site where it is clearly one word but apparently since I am not a programmer I have no idea what I am talking about. She's like "you don't even know what it is, how can you know how they spell it"

user15026

a) I know what it is and b) I looked at the site.

murgatroid99

6:15 PM

@AshleyNunn that doesn't even make any sense. How can you argue with a company's website about how to spell that company's name?

user15026

@murgatroid99 I think it is more she wants me to be wrong because I am not in a fancy college mobile app programming program like her so I am inferior

user15026

or something

Matt Giltaji

@AshleyNunn you'll have the last laugh when she ends up making mobile crapware out of school :D

user15026

@MattGiltaji She's aiming for Google

user15026

Make of that what you will.

Matt Giltaji

6:18 PM

@AshleyNunn everyone aims for google, most don't get in

but google's mobile apps are pretty solid

Chippies

isn't github a hub of git's?

user15026

@MattGiltaji Oh, this I know. Which is why I am just being darkly amused over here

user15026

@MattGiltaji They are, but she's....not.

murgatroid99

@Chippies It's a hub for git repositories

user15026

I mean if she somehow makes it, good for her, but.....

Chippies

6:19 PM

@murgatroid99 sooo, a hub of gits :>

a git hub!

git rep hub maybe

Matt Giltaji

@Chippies a hub of .git directories

murgatroid99

@Chippies "hub of gits" isn't a phrase that has meaning

Chippies

@murgatroid99 well, it's the same as git hub

but I guess git rep hub would make more sense

murgatroid99

@Chippies I'm not even sure if you're trying to make a point

Chippies

@murgatroid99 just throwing in a different pov

murgatroid99

6:21 PM

GitHub is a name. Period. That's the only thing that matters regarding spelling

Chippies

@murgatroid99 100% agree with that

but I can understand why someone would think it could or should be spelt separately

@murgatroid99 also, the capitalized letters kinda imply that those are two words as well

murgatroid99

@Chippies Sure, I can understand how someone might make such a mistake until they look at the website, but arguing that a name is spelled wrong is just dumb

Chippies

but of course you wouldn't spell a company name separately if it's spelt as one word

murgatroid99

@Chippies You've never seen a name with a capital at a letter other than the first?

Chippies

@murgatroid99 as company names (is there a generic word for those?) and such, yeah

murgatroid99

6:24 PM

Neil deGrasse Tyson

Neil deGrasse Tyson (/ˈniːəl dəˈɡræs ˈtaɪsən/; born October 5, 1958) is an American astrophysicist, cosmologist, author, and science communicator. Since 1996, he has been the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space in New York City. The center is part of the American Museum of Natural History, where Tyson founded the Department of Astrophysics in 1997 and has been a research associate in the department since 2003. Born in Manhattan, New York City, Tyson became interested in astronomy at the age of nine after a visit to the Hayden Planetarium....

IPhone

iPhone (/ˈaɪfoʊn/ EYE-fohn) is a line of smartphones designed and marketed by Apple Inc. It runs Apple's iOS mobile operating system. The first generation iPhone was released on June 29, 2007; the most recent iPhone models are the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, which were unveiled at a special event on September 9, 2014. The user interface is built around the device's multi-touch screen, including a virtual keyboard. The iPhone has Wi-Fi and can connect to many cellular networks, including 1xRTT (represented by a 1x on the status bar) and GPRS (shown as GPRS on the status bar), EDGE (shown as a capital...

Chippies

@murgatroid99 that's due to language stuffs though

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 +1 for neil degrasse tyson

murgatroid99

@Chippies OK, I'm still not sure what point you're trying to make.

Chippies

@murgatroid99 again, not trying to make any point

Matt Giltaji

take it easy... :)

cc @Wipqozn

murgatroid99

6:26 PM

@Chippies ok

Chippies

@AshleyNunn you're smart with words! What's a generic word for stuff like company names and stuff like that?

this conversation made me curious

murgatroid99

@Chippies "Proper noun"?

Chippies

@murgatroid99 ah, I felt like "proper word" would be it, but googling that made it seem wrong

proper noun makes more sense

Lazers

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Q: How do I testfor if a player is standing on a certain block on a certain coordinates

So I'm pretty new to testfor still and I would like to know how to create a commandblock system that would detect when they are standing on a yellow wool block on the coordinates 400 4 600 (for example) does anyone know how to setup this redstone suystem, and also be specific about how I set the ...

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murgatroid99

There are rumors that YouTube will launch a game streaming service this year

Chippies

6:29 PM

A pretty impressive bundle for only 1.99$

6

murgatroid99

> When asked about the report, a YouTube representative declined to comment to Ars and instead sent us an animated GIF of a little girl shrugging her shoulders. (No, seriously. This one.)

user15026

@Chippies generally they're just proper nouns

Origami Robot

@murgatroid99 adorable

Chippies

@AshleyNunn yep, that's what I thought, except for some reason my brain was giving me "proper word" and that was close, but not right at all

RPi Awesomeness

Man. The Portal 2 soundtrack. So amazing :D

Wipqozn

6:32 PM

@MattGiltaji This is the worst meme.

user15026

@Chippies yeah, close but not quite right.

Wipqozn

@Chippies Poor @GnomeSlice. I bet he was going to post that when he came in,a nd we'd be all "holy crap @GnomeSlice that's amazing!" but now he'll probably beat you up for stealing his thunder.

Because System Shock 2 makes that bundle worth it. That game is amazing.

Chippies

@Wipqozn knowing him, he'll probably post it anyway, but with a bunch of autocorrect "improvements" and we'll star it anyway

Matt Giltaji

@RPiAwesomeness i didn't like the ending song as much as "still alive"

RPi Awesomeness

@MattGiltaji Yeah. The ending song on the first one is better.

I think I liked the first one better story-wise. Puzzles and length-wise, Portal 2 is obviously the better of the two.

Chippies

6:35 PM

The Portal 2 soundtrack was too noisy for the most part, the actual song songs were good though

RPi Awesomeness

Man. There are times I wish I had Windows just for a couple games :(

STALKER looks cool

Matt Giltaji

> In glad for competition... But I've had about enough of Google. I don't want them intersecting any more of my life.

p.s.: I didn't really mean it Google Fiber, I love you please come to my home town!

p.p.s.: I hate you Google.

comments on ars are fun

user15026

@MattGiltaji This is a very confusing set of statements :P

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness piracy is always the answer! (Except when it's not)

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies lol

murgatroid99

6:38 PM

> I don't want Google in my life unless it makes my life better

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 google generally does make my life better, so yeah

Origami Robot

OH, WERE WE TALKING ABOUT SUPER TROOPERS BECAUSE OF THE INDIEGOGO COMPAIGN?

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot yes

RPi Awesomeness

Goodness. What engine is STALKER Clear Sky running on? Is that Gold?

murgatroid99

@Chippies I kind of want this bundle now, but I'll probably forget by the time I get home

RPi Awesomeness

6:39 PM

... might be a quake?

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness not sure what you mean by Gold and I'm not sure on Clear Sky, but STALKER has its own engine

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 i set an appointment in my phone for this kind of stuff

Chippies

iirc Clear Sky is one of the weaker games in STALKER series, I could be wrong though

RPi Awesomeness

@Chippies Gold Source

@Chippies I see

Chippies

@RPiAwesomeness STALKER is way newer than that

RPi Awesomeness

6:41 PM

@Chippies That's what I thought

Chippies

it looks much better than that as well

MadMAxJr

7:02 PM

Stalker had its own engine. It was kind of a machine-killer when it first came out.

Lazers

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Q: Anniversary XP bonus boost

How does the 'double experience' or '+100% xp bonus' from the anniversary event work with other boosts such as from higher difficulty levels? Torment I has a base 300% XP bonus, for the duration of this event will that become 400% bonus ('+100%') or 600% XP rate ('double')?

diablo-3

The Stack Exchange Blog

Blog - Stack Exchange: Podcast #63 – The Plumber’s Up To 67 Coins

Abby T. Miller on March 25, 2015

Welcome to the Stack Exchange Podcast Episode #63, recorded March 6, 2015 in front of a live-ish audience. Today’s podcast is brought to you by Cool Whip by Kraft Foods. A description for this result is not available because of this site’s robots.txt — learn more! Our hosts today are Joel Spolsky, David Fullerton, and Jay Hanlon… as usual.

So what’s new? David went to London. (We have an office there. It’s awesome and it has graffiti on the walls.) David flew out to meet the London marketing team, spend time with some of our European developers, and get knighted. Probably. …

Chippies

Stalker was a huge disappointment for anyone who followed its development at least a bit

the plans for it were insane, but the final version cut pretty much everything that would have made it the best game ever

MadMAxJr

Yep. Chunks of it are still in the code that mods tried to finish.

Chippies

7:24 PM

> THQ ran a competition in January 2007 offering the winners the chance to play the beta version of S.T.A.L.K.E.R., in a 24 hour marathon session. The event, scheduled to take place on January 24, 2007, was subsequently changed to a 12 hour session days before it was supposed to occur. On the morning of the event, the winners were met at the venue by the THQ staff that had organized the event, who were embarrassed to report that they had been unable to get any copies of the game.

> In January '07 GSC wasn't even able to provide a working copy of the game. And it wend gold on March 2nd. 39 days later!

heh

anyways, gotta go help make foods...

Fluttershy

Steven Spielberg to direct Ready Player One.

murgatroid99

@Fluttershy I wonder how they'll get all of the licenses

user15026

@Fluttershy Two things - they're making a BFG movie? And....I want to say this will turn out awesome but I am nervous

murgatroid99

I loved the book, but when I read it I remember thinking "how the hell did that game license basically every copyrighted thing ever without going broke"

Fluttershy

@murgatroid99 It was a dystopian society, so I'd say the rules were different. Or the license holders were so enthralled by the game that they just handed them over. :P

murgatroid99

7:29 PM

@Fluttershy I thought it became dystopian after the game was created, though I don't really remember that detail

And the more important question now is "how much of that stuff will the movie be able to license?"

I feel like it loses some of its appeal if it doesn't have Voltron fighting Megazord

Fluttershy

@murgatroid99 That's my main concern.

Origami Robot

@murgatroid99 WOULD WATCH

Rapitor

TIE Fighter - short film

►

murgatroid99

@OrigamiRobot my point is that that happens in the book, and I'm worried about how they're going to represent it in the movie

Origami Robot

THEY'LL PROBABLY GIVE EVERYTHING MOHAWKS AND WHEELCHAIRS

murgatroid99

7:32 PM

I'm excited. That's one of the only books that I didn't put down between when I bought it and when I finished it. I'm just worried that it will be very difficult for the movie to live up to the book

user15026

@murgatroid99 This is something I am very scared of

Kevin van der Velden

Having ping spikes of 3 seconds to your fing router is pretty bad right?

murgatroid99

@AshleyNunn I think just about everything in the game in the book is a property owned by someone else

user15026

@murgatroid99 It's pretty heavy on that, yes

Matt Giltaji

@KevinvanderVelden how far away is the router from the machine you are pinging from?

Kevin van der Velden

7:37 PM

@MattGiltaji 2 wires

Matt Giltaji

@KevinvanderVelden yeah, 3 second lag spike is bad

Kevin van der Velden

Standard ping is 1ms

Or well "time<1ms"

murgatroid99

@MattGiltaji Why does that matter?

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 to determine how bad it is

Origami Robot

I AM GOING TO CRY (GRAPHIC ANIMAL NEGLECT PHOTOS BUT HAPPY ENDING)

murgatroid99

7:38 PM

@MattGiltaji Unless the router is on the Moon, physical distance shouldn't contribute significantly to lag

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 my routers are ALL on the moon

except for the europa one, that's on a different moon

murgatroid99

I just mentioned the moon because 3 light-seconds is 900,000 km, which is about 75 times the diameter of the earth

Matt Giltaji

physical distance is useful for determining magnitude of bad

Kevin van der Velden

In the case of a router and ping spikes of 3 seconds: No, not really =p

murgatroid99

@MattGiltaji If your router is anywhere that can be called "yours", 3 seconds of lag is bad

Matt Giltaji

7:42 PM

@murgatroid99 fine, fine

murgatroid99

Of course, this is going to be the main issue when we do have interplanetary internet: the physical lower bound on latency will be very high, compared to what we are used to

So, fun SE incentive structure: a recent (yes/no) question on BCG seemed subjective to me. I posted 2 answers: one for yes and one for no. They both have negative net score, but positive net rep, and I am now 2 questions closer to a gold tag badge.

Rapitor

@murgatroid99 interplanetary internet? we are still quite far from that I think

Kevin van der Velden

@Rapitor true, we just have planet-orbit internet

murgatroid99

@Rapitor I'd bet on having a moon base within 10 years (with the recent increased interest in privatized spaceflight). That will have the same sorts of issues

Kevin van der Velden

Which coincidentally has the same issues =p

Rapitor

7:52 PM

@murgatroid99 Moon as been pretty much forgotten. mostly everyone is targeting mars/deep space

Frank

@murgatroid99 It'll depend on the technology we use to broadcast and carry the data.

Chippies

@KevinvanderVelden why 2 wires? How come no one has asked this yet?

murgatroid99

@Rapitor There was a recent Google-funded challenge to send probes to the moon

Kevin van der Velden

@Chippies well the actual distinct wire count is more

Chippies

@KevinvanderVelden I don't understand, do you have routers between the cables or what?

Kevin van der Velden

7:55 PM

But it's PC wire Wireless AP wire, wire in wall, wire Router

@Chippies I have 1 router, 1 wireless access point (4 ethernet ports max), 1 gigabit switch (8 ethernet port)

Both the AP and the switch connect to the router

Via cables in the wall

murgatroid99

@Rapitor The Google Lunar XPrize

Rapitor

@murgatroid99 yeah i heard about that, some sort of race

Chippies

@KevinvanderVelden is the wireless AP cheap and crappy? is some other device hogging its resources?

Lazers

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Q: Far Cry 4: Getting all weapons for 100% completion

In the menu's progress section says I need to get 64 weapons in order to achieve 100% completion, but I have no idea where to get all of them. The store only sells half of them and online guides don't provide any comprehensive info about it either. Anyone already did this and can help me? Than...

far-cry-4

Kevin van der Velden

@Chippies the wireless AP is awesome

Chippies

7:57 PM

I don't get 3 second lag spikes on wifi even

Kevin van der Velden

And pinging it is <1ms, pinging the router that is behind it is crap

Chippies

@KevinvanderVelden is it possible to test the lag directly with the router?

Kevin van der Velden

I do know my way around my network, the lag is the router

GnomeSlice

@Rapitor have you seen the new EP from Rezonate on monstercat?

s/seen/heard

Chippies

@KevinvanderVelden well, it could possibly be the cables in the wall

but probably it's the router

wouldn't hurt to check though

Rapitor

7:59 PM

@GnomeSlice was just listening now actually

GnomeSlice

@Rapitor Do I have you on Steam? I'll send you a download.

Rapitor

@GnomeSlice nobody has me on steam, for i dont have steam ;)

GnomeSlice

That's what I thought.

Rapitor

I don't really "own" music. I just listen to whatever is streaming

Chippies

Oceans of Slumber - Solitude (Candlemass)

►

Unionhawk

8:03 PM

Goddammit Java

Kevin van der Velden

Yes

I don't know where you're going with that, but damn java regardless

Unionhawk

What do you mean you can't find that class

IT'S RIGHT THERE

I know there's something stupid going on here

GnomeSlice

Wikiwand lets you display in a sans-serif font now.

Nice.

Unionhawk

There's path problems. Got it

Okay then

Rapitor

@elitepeeps who flys/flew an Asp? where are the hardpoints

Unionhawk

8:07 PM

Got it, I'm an idiot

So apparently, if you set CLASSPATH to something, it erases the default value of . (current directory)

Kevin van der Velden

Woops

Unionhawk

...

WELP STARTING THAT OVER (rm *.java!=rm *.class)

Good thing it wasn't too long to do

badp

ABEND

@Unionhawk also not too long to do: git init

StrixVaria

@badp They should fix rm to be undo-able too, tbh.

badp

@StrixVaria you can still lose data to mv.

just yesterday I wrote mv file.pl file2.pl instead of the other way around.

Unionhawk

8:16 PM

@badp Good thing we're not using any version control (that is literally my entire complaint about this class, if you're going to have us collaborate on shit, teach us version control)

badp

@Unionhawk they can't prevent you from using any version control.

Unionhawk

It's true, I'm a victim of my own laziness

StrixVaria

I had never used any version control until I started my first job. I didn't understand why I would have wanted it on a solo project until I had it. I will never not use git for a coding project again.

GnomeSlice

themissingscarf.com

I forgot that was narrated by George Takei

and also how messed up it is

Yuuki

8:32 PM

A way to cook rice with less calories.

I sorta want to give this a try.

At least see if it tastes any different.

Chippies

@Yuuki why does it even matter, rice without other things is lame anyway

and once you add things, rice probably has the least calories of everything anyway

Yuuki

> White rice consumption, in particular, has been linked to a higher risk of diabetes.

@Chippies You gotta start somewhere.

Chippies

@Yuuki I thought diabetes was mainly linked to sugar stuffs

Yuuki

@Chippies The body converts starch to sugar.

Chippies

Human body is weird in an amazing way

murgatroid99

8:42 PM

Of course, starch is basically just long sugar

Chippies

@murgatroid99 doesn't taste like sugar though

murgatroid99

@Chippies sugar doesn't taste like coal, but it still has carbon in it

Chippies

@murgatroid99 well if you put it that way, most of everything is made of the same stuff anyway

murgatroid99

@Chippies seriously, though, starch is basically a chemically linked chain of sugar molecules

Chippies

chemistry is weird in an amazing way

badp

8:46 PM

@StrixVaria git add -p and git commit --amend ftw

Chippies

<insert anything> is weird in an amazing way

inb4 urmom is weird in an amazing way

badp

I don't know why anybody would git add when they can git add -p

user15026

@Chippies Can we please, please, please stop with urmom references.

murgatroid99

@badp Why not git add -u?

Chippies

@AshleyNunn sure

badp

8:49 PM

@murgatroid99 eh. Maybe if they combined.

murgatroid99

@badp I've never used -p

badp

-p shows you the diff, bit by bit, and asks you what to stage.

murgatroid99

@badp Well, I almost always want to stage all of my changes since my last commit

badp

Sometimes there's the spurious whitespace change

Wipqozn

@Sterno Did you buy the game jsut to taunt me? Because if so, well done.

badp

8:51 PM

Sometimes there's more than a thing I've changed, and I can commit one but not the other

Most of the times however git add -p forces you to reread what you're committing.

That's basically good practice.

murgatroid99

You can git diff to see everything you've changed

badp

I've spotted a few bugs by doing that.

@murgatroid99 Yes. But git add -p shows you the changes bit by bit, and asks you, "do you really want to commit this?"

murgatroid99

Usually, I just run the tests before committing

badp

It forces you to be more careful, and step through the changes.

Matt Giltaji

@badp why not just make fewer changes between commits?

murgatroid99

8:53 PM

@MattGiltaji this, exactly

badp

@MattGiltaji because that means interacting too frequently with source control imho.

Matt Giltaji

@badp that was valid before dvcs

badp

Sometimes your one task can be split in several commits.

The smaller the commit, the easier the merges, the conflict resolution, etc.

@MattGiltaji in dvcs you interact too little with source control because you have to be 200% extra careful that your code broke nothing.

git lets you commit stuff locally and fix it later.

Matt Giltaji

you can commit a bunch of times to your local, run tests, pull, more tests, then push

badp

If you want to deal with git a lot you can commit and rebase -i your branch every time you change anything

murgatroid99

8:56 PM

@MattGiltaji and possibly, right before the push, rebase to a single commit

Matt Giltaji

@murgatroid99 true, i always forget about that

badp

If you want to deal with git a little you can git add -p to split your changes after the fact

either way git is flexible enough to meet your needs, and not the other way around.

...so long as you don't push.

murgatroid99

git push -f lets you push rebases

after you've pushed the commits

badp

so long as no one has git fetched in the meantime.

murgatroid99

@badp We do forks and pull requests, so the probability of that is basically 0

badp

8:58 PM

I mean, it'll still work

but people who merged/rebased/pulled will be SOL.

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