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Wipqozn
Wipqozn
2:00 PM
@MichaelDunfield Windows 8? More like.... WINDOWS BAIT
 
3ventic
3ventic
@MichaelDunfield I am
 
Blem
Blem
@MichaelDunfield @kalina uses it i think
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
HAHAHAHAHHA
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
@3ventic How big is your monitor right now?
 
kalina
kalina
what's wrong with Windows 8?
 
3ventic
3ventic
2:00 PM
@MichaelDunfield 1920x1080 + 1680x1050
 
kalina
kalina
@MichaelDunfield 3x 1920x1080
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
@3ventic Sweet... can you do me a favour? I need a screenshot of the metro shit from windows 8
Like that but bigger
 
3ventic
3ventic
Uploading
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
@3ventic Sweet, thanks. I'll take your name out
Also this is going to be in a commercial video, is that okay with you?
There's nothing sensitive on there is there
 
3ventic
3ventic
I don't think there is
except my name ofc
but you can easily take it out
 
kalina
kalina
2:02 PM
I would have had to spend so long editing any screenshot of metro that I uploaded
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
Yeah
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
@3ventic and email adres in the browser.
 
3ventic
3ventic
@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, but he was interested in metro part of it, so I assume he will crop the browser out
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
@3ventic true, still good to note however =p
 
3ventic
3ventic
it was just a lot faster to take a screenshot with just win+prntscr
 
kalina
kalina
2:03 PM
this is GnomeSlice, don't assume
 
3ventic
3ventic
I like it how I can upload my desktop with just win+prntscr <3
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@StrixVaria giga-spoiler
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@kalina @GnomeSlice left us.
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
@3ventic Yeah, I will.
 
kalina
kalina
@OrigamiRobot he thinks he left us, we all know he's still here
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
2:04 PM
16 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot
@PrivatePansy giga-spoiler
JEEZ
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
bah
 
kalina
kalina
GOD YOU PEOPLE ARE SO SLOW
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
I don't have time to scroll all the way up
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
Anything else you want me to take out @3ventic?
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
2:06 PM
@MichaelDunfield If you want screenshots of Win 8 there are plenty elsewhere online
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
@PrivatePansy Yeah, not big enough ones though. Also I'm not sure if I have permission to use those.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
Like, oh I don't know, from Microsoft?
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
etc
@PrivatePansy Those screenshots aren't big enough.
 
3ventic
3ventic
@MichaelDunfield Should probably blur/remove the community plugin avatars, some ppl's pics in there
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
Actually maybe I'll just use this
and hope nobody recognizes it
It's going to be really small so the colours are better
thanks anyway @3ventic
 
kalina
kalina
2:09 PM
@MichaelDunfield It's easy - images.google.com, type in "windows 8 metro", click search tools, click size, click exactly, enter WxH, click search
l2google
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
 
3ventic
3ventic
@MichaelDunfield np
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
@BenBrocka Lol what the hell is this
 
5pike
5pike
@MichaelDunfield Metro... obviously
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@RedRiderX @AshleyNunn I seem to keep getting hit on by the devils from Hell
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
2:17 PM
@PrivatePansy hot
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@BenBrocka I'm charming in my own way
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
user image
2
 
5pike
5pike
@KevinvanderVelden 10/10 - would use in heist
 
StrixVaria
StrixVaria
-2
A: What does "Loss Forgiven" mean on the match history?

user55886How did you go 6/7/12 with jax in the firstplace?

 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@KevinvanderVelden "Hey kids get in the van!"
 
5pike
5pike
2:21 PM
@StrixVaria already downvoted and flagged.
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
@BenBrocka now we just need a dog and mystery solving we go!
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
 
Sepia Lazers
Sepia Lazers
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Q: Would you like to help shape up our site for Grand Theft Auto 5?

Grace NoteGTA V came out recently. It's quite popular, and has resulted in a humongous traffic boost to Arqade, especially mobile traffic. In fact our mobile traffic was high enough to be over half the mobile traffic of Stack Overflow. That's still small compared to the behemoth itself, but in full proport...

discussion site-promotion editing
 
Fluttershy
Fluttershy
Why do I get notifications saying a comment was posted on my meta answer, but that comment isn't actually there? O_o
 
badp
badp
@BenBrocka Ain't nobody got time for that
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
2:27 PM
@Fluttershy Maybe it got deleted?
 
Fluttershy
Fluttershy
Is someone just commenting and then deleting? Or is mobile being dum?
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
I love these ridiculous ads
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
@BenBrocka OH NOES I SPILLED MY WATER
Morning, Bridge
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
> Good God, you can't write that! I mean, it was marvellous. Marvellous! But you'll be arrested for indecency!
Ahahaha
 
Arperum
Arperum
@BenBrocka I'M GOING TO PRESS A BUTTON WITH WATER!!!!1!!! WHY U NO WORK?!?
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
2:31 PM
@Arperum On touch screens it actually works! Kinda. Water stimulates the capacitive layer on most devices.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
good old gearbox
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
@PrivatePansy every time I see that all I think is "War Gerbil" and how awesome a war gerbil would be
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
The nice thing about playing through older games again is answering questions from 6 months ago about those games:
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A: Is it possible to complete Moonlit Grotto without using the teleporter in the midboss room?

WipqoznYes, it's possible to beat the dungeon without making us of the mini-boss teleport. In fact it's actually faster to not use of the teleport. The way you're supposed to get around it is to just take the same route you would use to get to the boss room, and then pushing the block directly across fr...

 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
 
Kevin van der Velden
Kevin van der Velden
2:35 PM
@MichaelDunfield that's a hamster, gerbils are cooler because they have tails
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@KevinvanderVelden On the other hands, hamsters power the Stack Exchange servers
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
Hamsters have tails too, they just don't conform to your twisted standard of beauty
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
I assume that will never be accepted, since I doubt the user will ever return to the site. At least it will no longer be considered unanswered.
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
 
kalina
kalina
@Wipqozn while it has 0 upvotes it will
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
2:38 PM
@kalina It received an upvote.
 
kalina
kalina
@Wipqozn WELL FINE THEN
 
Sterno
Sterno
Ultimately, the "BAN ALL LORE" answer on this particular meta only matters if it's going to result in an actionable change to policy if it ends up as the highly voted answer. I want to make sure it's an actionable change, and not just us flapping our mouths and then nothing happening because it wasn't a clear enough community consensus, or whatever. I think we're both in complete agreement we want something done... my fear was that trying to do it under this meta would be the wrong place to actually see things move forward (other than within the scope of what this meta was about). — Sterno 3 mins ago
@OrigamiRobot ping
Deleting it from the meta comments because it's getting bloated.
 
Grace Note
Grace Note
Jin poked me about picking a couple of questions that we could specifically target with some ads surrounding GTA5 - I kinda poked our higher traffic ones but wanted t'know if folks may think any particulars be shinier.
 
Sterno
Sterno
Basically, the short version is that I too want this resolved. My worry was that the meta I'd started was the wrong place to resolve it.
 
kalina
kalina
@GraceNote the two that sucked in >100k views in the space of a week should do it
unless you want more than 2?
 
Sterno
Sterno
2:40 PM
I don't want anyone pointing at the "Ban all lore questions" answer with, say, 30+ upvotes a week from now, and saying "Yeah, but that's not what this was about! This isn't a clear enough consensus! waaaah!"
And if I'm the only one worried about that, then awesome, it's not a real problem.
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
@GraceNote Holy shit that's a lot of views.
 
Grace Note
Grace Note
Two is probably what we'll settle for but we could also eschew the high traffic ones (which already have high traffic as it were) for something more eye-catching.
 
Sterno
Sterno
I just remember the ITG thing being a huge deal that needed a lot of transparency.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@GraceNote I'm not sure if those few need more traffic
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
If you guys ban lore questions I'm deleting my account.
8
 
kalina
kalina
2:40 PM
@GraceNote when I looked lastnight, the two really high traffic ones seemed the best of the bunch
I will have another skim through though
 
Sterno
Sterno
@MichaelDunfield Dude, it's like you're trying to get them banned.
 
Grace Note
Grace Note
Awesome, thank you much~ ♪
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
Maybe find higher quality question rather than those which are already very popular
 
Sterno
Sterno
This is like when I complain about pony pictures and threaten consequences.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@MichaelDunfield Damn, now I'm torn. I don't want to ban Lore questions, but that's a really good incentive to ban them.
 
kalina
kalina
2:41 PM
@PrivatePansy the fact they're high traffic already means they're probably going to be the most eye catching
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
10k people ^
Hahaha
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
I agree with @Sterno solution.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
Oh are we doing drama? disappears into conveniently placed bushes
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
@Wipqozn I already know you don't like me
 
kalina
kalina
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Q: View optional mission objectives during a mission?

Nick BayleyMost missions in GTA5 have optional mission objectives. Completing them or not determines what medal you receive at the end of the mission (gold, silver, bronze). So far I have found it quite frustrating to complete a mission only to be told that I didn't get gold because I didn't "headshot 10 b...

grand-theft-auto-5
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
2:42 PM
@Sterno Editing titles is free.
 
kalina
kalina
plenty of upvotes but the answer is a one liner
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
We should be judging a question based on whether or not it's asking about something in-game, not whether or not it's answered in-game.
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
@BenBrocka O Romeo, where art thou
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@BenBrocka Play any Monster Hunter yet?
 
Sterno
Sterno
@OrigamiRobot So is making a new meta that doesn't require me to totally reword a question and make half of the answers make no sense
Your problem doesn't seem to be so much with my answer as with the scope of my question.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
2:43 PM
@Sterno I stand by what I said.
 
Sterno
Sterno
Which I can understand. but I'm not sure how to solve that.
 
Ben Brocka
Ben Brocka
@Wipqozn Only like an hour
 
kalina
kalina
@GraceNote are you specifically after high quality questions with high quality answers?
or do you not mind if the questions are unanswered
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
Yeah, I don't understand @OrigamiRobot's problem. Must be some robot thing.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
"OK, now that we've all decided that we like/don't like lore questions, let's make another meta to make sure for really reals, then a third, then the real vote, then another to confirm the real vote."
 
kalina
kalina
2:44 PM
@Wipqozn the robot seems to have lots of problems that we mere mortals cannot understand
 
Sterno
Sterno
@OrigamiRobot I don't think it's as decided as you think it is.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@OrigamiRobot I don't see how that's implied in sternos' answer at all.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@Wipqozn His answer is basically "Lets' remove this line and leave the decision for another meta."
 
Sterno
Sterno
The entire problem my meta was about (in my mind, at least) was that we have a close reason that does not match anything discussed anywhere, and which is really hard to reliable enforce, and which is honestly just kind of dumb.
 
Michael Dunfield
Michael Dunfield
 
kalina
kalina
2:46 PM
I think we should just ban all the questions, that will resolve this argument and give us a clear, concise response to all similar future questions.
7
 
Sterno
Sterno
I was specifically trying to avoid whether or not lore questions were on topic, or if they were, how, because I worried that it would result in complete inaction on what I see the current issue to be... closing questions for the wrong reason
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@OrigamiRobot Except "Ban all lore questions" wasn't the meta was about.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@Sterno I'm not saying it is decided. I'm saying this is the chance for that decision to be made clear and now we're just writing it off to another meta.
 
Sterno
Sterno
I totally get where @OrigamiRobot is coming from. he wants the larger issue resolved. I was taking the other approach and trying to fix something I thought was easily fixable.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
We can't just ban all lore questions based on the voting on on specifici answer on a question about something about lore questions.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
2:47 PM
@Wipqozn I don't care. I'm tired of talking about it.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@OrigamiRobot Have we ever actually had a meta about banning lore questions?
 
Sterno
Sterno
@Wipqozn I couldn't find one.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@Wipqozn No, that's my point.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
I don't think we have, and we really need one, a recent one at least, before voting to ban them.
@OrigamiRobot Which is also my point. We can't turn @Sterno's meta into "ban all lore questions", we'd need a meta specifically for that.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
Instead of making all these endless questions about little details about topics, just have one.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
2:49 PM
Which actually discusses the pros and cons of banning, aka meta argumenets, aka meta dramas.
 
Sterno
Sterno
@OrigamiRobot For what it's worth, I almost asked about lore questions in general, but I wanted this issue out of the way and shown as not a good solution so that it wouldn't just be pointed to as a solution. If that makes any sense. I had bad wording
 
Grace Note
Grace Note
@kalina Some of the other options they tossed out internally as "maybes" were these two
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@OrigamiRobot Okay, now I understand what you mean.
 
StrixVaria
StrixVaria
@GraceNote I can't click on that second link because when I mouse over it, it's covered by the flag/reply/star icons.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
Maybe I'm just the only one who isn't pretending like we can't easily vote on the issue here and now.
 
Sterno
Sterno
2:50 PM
People seemed to already have an understanding that our current system of "ban it if it's non canon, allow it if is" was working. It was not. I wanted to kind of prove that.
 
Grace Note
Grace Note
@StrixVaria Hohum.
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
Man, Odo is such a comedian:
 
kalina
kalina
@GraceNote ok, what is the actual objective? Are we just trying to advertise the fact we have GTA questions or to show the quality of our content?
I've just come to the conclusion that nearly all of these GTA questions and their answers are a couple of lines of text
 
Grace Note
Grace Note
@kalina Get people to come and ask via example, so it's a mixture of both. I haven't particularly looked at those, only threw them out since they were mentioned tangentially as "maybes" (mostly probably because of the titles)
 
Arperum
Arperum
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Q: How long do I have to play Grand Theft Auto V to unlock all of San Andreas?

TamaI just got an e-mail saying that my GTAV has arrived at my house (I'm in New Zealand, so it's Tuesday morning). So in anticipation of happily wasting hundreds of hours of my life I'm going to pre-emptively ask this question. Every other GTA game has locked out sections of the game map until yo...

grand-theft-auto-5
That any good?
 
Sterno
Sterno
2:51 PM
And none of those questions about stocks in GTA really tell me what I want to know. When, exactly, should I invest my money for guaranteed returns?
 
kalina
kalina
@GraceNote I'd say this one for certain, just because out of all of the ones I've looked at it has a multiple line question and a multiple line answer with lots of upvotes:
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Q: How do you short stocks in GTA5?

daspianistOne of the most interesting elements in GTA5 is the stock market. I understand that often Lester will have assassination missions for the player, such as the one involving the LifeInvader CEO, and was wondering how I could profit off missions such as these? For example, LifeInvader's stock took...

grand-theft-auto-5
 
Arperum
Arperum
Answer isn't accepted yet though.
 
Sterno
Sterno
They all give general rules. Don't make me think! Just tell me "When mission X comes up, invest in Y! Profit!"
 
kalina
kalina
@Arperum this one as well, since it has a multiple line question and answer
 
Arperum
Arperum
@kalina It immediately shows that self answering isn't bad.
 
kalina
kalina
2:53 PM
I don't like the security van question
the question isn't bad
but all of the answers are one liners and theres like 8 of them
looks too forum-y
 
5pike
5pike
@Sterno Wasn't there an answer which tells you that the Lester assassination mission are just like that?
 
Sterno
Sterno
@OrigamiRobot Anyway, in terms of getting this resolved, what if I start a meta right now asking whether or not lore questions should be banned? I mean, I get that you'll find it slightly annoying we have two questions instead of one, but it will move things forward, right?
 
5pike
5pike
Could have been somewhere else
 
Sterno
Sterno
@5pike I think I saw a forum post like that, but not an answer
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
 
kalina
kalina
2:54 PM
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Q: Is there a flying-rats / hidden packages equivalent in GTA V?

Chaos_99Former GTA titles always featured some kind of collectable placed at various often hard to reach or somewhat special places throughout the map. It was flying rats (= pigeons) in GTA 4, horseshoes/oysters in San Andreas, hidden packages in Vice City and GTA 3. I haven't found or heard of any of...

grand-theft-auto-5
possibly that one
since we don't want to collect all of the already massively viewed questions
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@Sterno We have 4 questions.
An old one, a not as old one, this one, and your proposed new one.
I see no reason not to just use this one.
 
Sterno
Sterno
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, we've got "Can I ask lore questions?", "Some of these lore questions are dumb, what can we do about?" and "This close-reason related to lore questions is stupid and makes no sense"
 
Grace Note
Grace Note
@Sterno Why not ask?
 
5pike
5pike
@Sterno Should I "steal" this answer from the forum and add it to arqade?
 
Sterno
Sterno
@GraceNote Because i haven't had a chance yet to pick over the existing questions and make sure I won't get closed as a dupe
@5pike I would hope it could be improved upon.
 
kalina
kalina
2:57 PM
Relevant to the lore discussion, would this question survive the banning of lore questions?
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Q: Do any of the characters from GTA: San Andreas make an appearance in GTA 5?

RobotnikI just bought Grand Theft Auto 5, and I am looking forward to playing it. But I'd like to know whether any of the old characters make an appearance in the new game. I know the new game is based around new protagonists, but do any of the old characters (such as Carl Johnson, The Truth, Sweet etc)...

grand-theft-auto-5
 
Sterno
Sterno
@kalina No.
 
kalina
kalina
right, then I'm not sure banning lore questions is the right thing to do
because I see nothing wrong with that question
apart from it being of average quality
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
@kalina There is no problem being solved.
 
kalina
kalina
@OrigamiRobot Curiosity is a problem
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
No, it's not.
 
kalina
kalina
2:58 PM
yes it is
 
StrixVaria
StrixVaria
@kalina This serves no practical purpose.
 
5pike
5pike
@Sterno Mhh.... we could expand it with a tip - before starting an assasination mission, buy stocks with all 3 characters...or something.
 
OrigamiRobot
OrigamiRobot
No, it isn't. What can you do with this answer? Nothing.
 
kalina
kalina
@StrixVaria I see no resistance against that question existing from the general public userbase of this site
 
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