The Bridge

GnomeSlice

14:13

@tiddy Lol.

tiddy

\o/

GnomeSlice

FAE

@GnomeSlice poor guinea pig

GnomeSlice

@FAE I can't even tell what it is.

FAE

@GnomeSlice Pretty sure it's a guinea pig

GnomeSlice

14:17

Yeah, I think you're right.

Wipqozn

14:28

> If the two variants are that different, they should have separate applicable tags, such as dungeon-defenders-pc I'm not saying we don't need to distinguish between such things, I'm saying that using the ambiguous and cross-game platform tag to do so just hasn't worked.

insert whining about 25-character limit on tags here

Lazers

1

Q: Is experience saved on a free account for if you decide to shell out?

Just like the title says, I'm currently playing on a 7 day free account, which apparently is level capped at 15. However, I still have some time left on that, and it took me a while to notice I didn't gain XP and thus level anymore. So, if I buy a subscription, will I get back that 'lost' XP?

swtor

Raven Dreamer

@FAE Three good days in a row? :3

Yi Jiang

@RavenDreamer Today is a bad day

FAE

@RavenDreamer Today is decent so far. Started out not so great, but looks to be potentially getting better. Avengers later!

spugsley

@YiJiang :(

@FAE It's so gooooooood

FAE

14:39

@spugsley I've heard! But it is not available in 2D here it seems. :( 3D gives me a headache.

spugsley

@FAE yeah, I'm also not a fan on 3d

Wipqozn

If it helps almost every day I have is good.

You people just need to learn to be more cheerful.

FAE

@spugsley I don't like the 3D pandering shot stuff very much. I don't have a 3D tv, so it's not like I can ever even "enjoy" that again at home.

And that's aside from the "waugh, this gives me a headache" factor

fbueckert

Really ? "Too Localized" ? EVERY MAN IN THE WORLD IS GOING TO PLAY DIABLO 3. And my question, still, too localized. Right. — Marcello Grechi Lins 1 hour ago

Wow, somebody's sensitive.

Wipqozn

@fbueckert Yes.

This isn't the first time he's reacted like that to a question of his being closed, or even people making suggestions on how it can be improved.

fixed

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Q: Is Gear the only difference between all the players roling the same class in Diablo 3?

Until now, seems like Diablo 3 have no Skill-tree system, or Talent-trees just like World of Warcraft and Diablo 2 have. Also, there is no manual attribute distribution, restricting players to stick with the attributes the game will spread for you. This has me worried that the only difference bet...

diablo-3 diablo-series

StrixVaria

14:52

My automatic response to seeing any closed question is to delete it now.

Well, closed bad question. That isn't a dupe.

Wipqozn

So yeah. I think that can be re-opened now. I removed his rant (which was basically all the question body was), and make it an actual question.

FAE

@StrixVaria Temporary state man, remember, temporary state!

StrixVaria

But the point is I get to cast lots of delete votes and it's awesome.

fbueckert

Alot of his questions get closed. I'd think someone with 1500 rep would know how the site works.

Wipqozn

This needs to be re-opened:

0

Q: Do players only see loot usable by their class?

Is there any logic to determine what "types" of item a player can see? Is it according to his or her class? (e.g. a Barbarian won't see Witch Doctor drops?)

diablo-3

Not sure why it got closed after my edit.

@fbueckert Some people just refuse to learn.

fbueckert

14:56

@Wipqozn Heh. Ok, I get the point. :P

Wipqozn

He's not the only 1500+ rep using who doesn't understand the basics of how the site works.

It's actually not that uncommon.

Although I do think he is worse than most.

In any case.

I'm handsome as heck, and shall now resume working.

One last thing..

Serial comma

The serial comma (also known as the Oxford comma or Harvard comma, and sometimes referred to as the series comma) is the comma used immediately before a coordinating conjunction (usually and or or, and sometimes nor) preceding the final item in a list of three or more items. For example, a list of three countries can be punctuated as either "Portugal, Spain, and France" (with the serial comma) or as "Portugal, Spain and France" (without the serial comma). Opinions vary among writers and editors on the usage or avoidance of the serial comma. In American English, the serial comma is standa...

> In some circumstances the serial-comma convention can introduce ambiguity. An example would be a dedication reading:

> To my mother, Ayn Rand, and God

oeutaou94u

That's what semi-colons are for gosh darn ya.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Sometimes, you just confuse me, man.

Wipqozn

If you have a list of items, and the items themselves contain commas you use a semicolon to separate the items.

FAE

and someone got married again

Mana

EEEEEEEXPLOOOOSIONS

Gaming not on Gaming

15:05

0

Q: What to do against game performance drop in 12.04 when using unity (3D)?

I experience a huge drop in game performance since my fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 My PC consists of an Nvidia Geforce GTX 460, AMD Phenom II X4 965 CPU and 4GB of RAM and I use nvidias proprietary driver. I mainly play Heroes of Newerth by using their linux client. I do this since ubuntu 9.10...

unity nvidia compiz performance games

FAE

there's like an entire wedding party at the entrance of my flat

Mana

bam, new gravatar.

take that, world.

Ullallulloo

@Mana It scares me.

Mana

source

@Ullallulloo It scares me too.

actually oh geez that's one of the most unsettling things I've stared at all day.

wow I need to change this back. it's too powerful.

I mean the way it gets bigger the more I talk...that's horrifying.

FAE

15:20

@Mana Yep

Also I was just reading that io9 article, haha

Mana

oh well, I'll leave it on for a bit for my own amusement.

although I'm pretty sure I'm condemning myself to some seriously screwed up nightmares later.

.

GnomeSlice

Jesus Christ, what the fuck is that.

Aeo

@GnomeSlice I lol'd at this response... My co-workers now wonder what is so funny...

FAE

15:45

Some days I kind of forget that I have really long hair

Fluttershy

@FAE Some days I miss my really long hair. But not most days.

FAE

@Fluttershy But long hair is <3

Mana

Not in the summer it isn't.

FAE

@Mana This is why I wear it up in hairsticks

Mana

even with just relatively medium-length curly hair summer is torture.

Lazers

15:56

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Q: Help! I'm being attacked on sight in Dragonsreach! And I didn't kill anybody. (Well, except for that one guy...)

So I came came back to Breezehome after a hard few days on the road ridding the world of several bandits, a bunch of necromancers, two dragons and a cave troll. I stored all that I wanted to, took a well deserved rest and then went out to pawn the remainder. On my way out of my home, which I bou...

skyrim technical-issues

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Q: Will pumping from a river affect the frame rate?

I've found that digging around a river or stream to change its shape greatly decreases my frame rate. Would pumping out some water have the same effect, if I stop the pump afterwards?

dwarf-fortress

FAE

I need to head to the hairdresser tomorrow to get my hair trimmed a bit

take off the last 4-6 inches or so

Mana

I need to head to the hairdresser tomorrow to get my hair trimmed a bit

take off the last 4-6 inches or so

FAE

Did that go through twice? My chat bugged out

Mana

@FAE It's okay. although now I just look silly.

then again, always do.

.

FAE

@Mana You don't need my help for that sir

Mana

15:58

hah, we both made the same joke...:(

Okay, I need to prep for TOJam. Peace.

FAE

@Mana <3

Later!

Mana

damn it, I was going to add a dot to expand my gravatar.

oh well.

maybe later.

Sterno

@Mana Your avatar keeps making me think of @RavenDreamer's old one

Tim Stone

Man, what happened to @Mana's face?

fredley

@TimStone I dislike it

It's just not... Mana enough

Tim Stone

16:10

I agree.

StrixVaria

I should never have refreshed chat.

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GnomeSlice

I didn't even have to refresh it.

Tim Stone

Hahah, that's great. Meanwhile, @OrigamiRobot still isn't green on my work computer.

fredley

@GnomeSlice Congratulations

@TimStone When was the last time you refreshed your chat window?!

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice I need some music for the intro to the latest LP we're doing, can I just take some from your NG?

GnomeSlice

16:15

@RonanForman Sure, just give me credit.

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot is green on my work computer but red on my home desktop and laptop (which I bought after he changed back to green).

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice Of course.

Tim Stone

@fredley Gravatar is just trolling him

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Don't use any of the ones I did for @RavenDreamer's game.

Ronan Forman

I wasn't going to.

Lazers

16:23

0

Q: Are the XBLA and PC versions of Minecraft compatible?

Can players on a PC and an Xbox play together in any way? I.e. can Xbox users connect to a (modfied?) PC server, or vice versa?

minecraft minecraft-xbox

0

Q: What was the original Ultima Online price and monthly fee?

How much did Ultima Online cost to buy and to play when it was launched in September 24 of 1997?

mmorpg ultima-online

skovacs1

@Lazers Is an MSRP question OT?

FAE

@Lazers I don't feel that that's a very good question for us

Ronan Forman

@skovacs1 And now with fewer acronyms?

StrixVaria

@skovacs1 OT is a bad acronym because it can mean both On-Topic and Off-Topic.

MSRP = Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price

Yi Jiang

@RonanForman For some reason I've always read MSRP as Microsoft Retail Price

Ronan Forman

16:28

Ah, in England we call that RRP.

skovacs1

@StrixVaria It makes sense either way.

Ronan Forman

@skovacs1 Yes.

StrixVaria

@skovacs1 Not if you are expecting a yes/no answer.

@RonanForman What's that stand for?

Ronan Forman

Recommended retail price.

StrixVaria

Oh makes sense.

Fluttershy

16:29

I used to laugh at some magazines I got that had MSRP for VHS tapes set at like $120...

Blem

the mmorpg tag is very badly used as far as i can see

Sterno

If anyone is interested in The Secret World, there's a beta this weekend

skovacs1

@RonanForman Now with fewer non-acronyms. Is MSRP OT? :P I can't really think of an acronym to address @StrixVaria's valid point. Is MSRP NG? maybe.

bwarner

@Wipqozn I'd rather just nuke it. The question is basically "Can I make choices in Diablo"? I don't think we need to justify that with an answer.

Sterno

If you pre-order, you're in. But you can also go here to get a temporary beta key

(with no purchase)

fredley

16:31

For anyone who hasn't seen this yet:

Carmageddon on Kickstarter

Blem

haven't seen much about it @Sterno, but was not impressed by what i saw

bwarner

I still don't understand why there's all this craziness about the Diablo 3 skill system. Have people never played Guild Wars?

Basil

boo

StrixVaria

@bwarner People are rejecting change.

It's pretty much that simple.

skovacs1

@Sterno "Offer open to GameSpot members 18 and older in the US, UK, and Australia only."

StrixVaria

16:33

311228 seconds left until they all see how stupid they were.

bwarner

The runes mean that D3 has way MORE possible combinations than Guild Wars, and I've never seen people complain about that skill system.

Blem

@bwarner the worst part imo is that Diablo 2 actually wasn't much different, people mostly ended up with the same specs anyway, now you can just change easier with out having to boost another char

Beofett

@bwarner I have not played GW. But then, I am also not complaining about the D3 skill system

StrixVaria

I've never played Guild Wars, so I can't compare.

Beofett

@Blem This

"You got rid of my ability to customize by removing stats!" You mean the stats that 90% of players assigned exactly the same?

fredley

16:34

@LessPopMoreFizz Hey, you know what's better than platform tags?

Platform/Game tags!

minecraft-xbox

StrixVaria

@fredley This is actually better because it is a different game.

FAE

@bwarner I dunno about more combinations, GW has hundreds of skills for each profession and each character can have 2 professions.

bwarner

I think there should be a setting where you can't unselect a skill or change a rune ever. That way people can be forced to rebuild their character anytime they want to try something different. Call it "I'm a whiner" or something.

fredley

@StrixVaria I can't think of a better way of differentiating, but I don't like it

skovacs1

@fredley How about platform shoes? loafers-xbox

StrixVaria

16:36

@fredley The fact that there is a differentiation is important. They need separate tags. What those tags are called I really don't care about at all.

bwarner

@FAE Hmm, forgot about the two professions part. OK, comparable number at least.

fredley

@StrixVaria The official name Mojang have given the game is 'Minecraft Xbox 360 edition'

Maybe minecraft-xbox-360 is better?

minecraft-xbox-360-edition is too long I'm guessing

StrixVaria

@bwarner They can play their Witch Doctor using nothing but Poison Dart for the first 15 levels until they unlock their first real skill!

Ullallulloo

@fredley by one character D:<

StrixVaria

Just like in Diablo 2.

That sure was fun.

fredley

16:38

@Ullallulloo Grrrr

bwarner

@Beofett Yah, I wouldn't mind if they let people assign stats, but I also don't think having them auto-assign makes any real difference. I'd often just leave stat points unassigned until I found an item that needed me to raise them.

fredley

minecraft-xbox-360-edishn

StrixVaria

minecraft-xbox360-edition

fredley

@StrixVaria Best so far

Blem

the thing i dislike the most about Diablo 3 atm is that it is only 4 player pr game

StrixVaria

16:40

BOOM SHAKALAKA

bwarner

I'm still blissfully spoiler free so far, but it sounds like pretty much the whole story line is out there now for people that want it.

StrixVaria

@Blem I like this for strategic gameplay purposes. I dislike it because I have more than 3 friends who will be playing.

bwarner

@Blem I think I played a game of Diablo 2 with more than 4 players exactly once in my life, so I guess it doesn't bother me.

fredley

@StrixVaria minecraft-xbox-edition

Beofett

@bwarner That's a pretty clear sign that the D2 stat system was, well... broken

bwarner

16:42

It sounds like this might require a change to one of our answers, but I'm waiting for a bit more confirmation before posting it. us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4903181020

Beofett

I was annoyed about the 4 player limit because I have a group of 6-7 people who I recently went through D2 again with for fun. Then again, with more than 4 of us it was completely boring, since if we all tried to stay together, everything died so fast it was like none of us were really playing

bwarner

@Beofett That was my experience the one time we tried it. We couldn't keep people together in any really functional way, and the boss fights were too chaotic to be fun.

Blem

but i can see why they cant do it higher, they want all to do there part when playing compare to D2, and if they just let them scale up to 8 people you would have 0 chance if you felt behind

Beofett

@bwarner Hrm... I'd prefer some confirmation. I am... skeptical at best of Brady guides in general as authoritative sources, and some pictures posted on reddit of an early release doesn't inspire a ton of confidence in me

bwarner

@Beofett Yah, that's why I'm waiting too.

Its quite possible that their info is from an older build and it doesn't work that way anymore.

OrigamiRobot

16:46

@StrixVaria THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE

Beofett

Tuesday needs to get here much faster ><

bwarner

Which begs the question, why would anyone buy a physical strategy guide these days? When there is more and better information available for free?

Aeo

@bwarner I have bought them before, mostly for convenience and the really nice art they sometimes include... but that's just me.

Beofett

@bwarner The only rational response I saw in the discussions on that very same question were "I like the art" and "I'm an obsessive completionist, who must have everything related to the launch"

OrigamiRobot

@bwarner Something to read in the bathroom?

Beofett

16:50

I had the D2 strategy guide, and I read it and used it for the charts when the game first came out... until the patches made 90% of the useful information completely inaccurate.

That was before the Arreat Summit website, iirc.

bwarner

@Beofett Did it tell you to always hold a Nagelring and a Manald Heal in your stash?

Beofett

@bwarner No, I'm pretty sure it did not :(

That would have justified the cost right there

bwarner

@Beofett See, it didn't even have the useful about to be outdated info.

Beofett

From what I recall, the only useful information it had was the listing of the skills for each class, and the effect for each skill point you put into it. It made it easy to see where you started to run into diminishing returns for some of the skills.

Monster stats seemed like a nice feature, but they only included Normal mode stats, which was just stupid

bwarner

@Beofett Which was important since if you made a mistake in your skill selections you had to start from scratch.

Which brings us full circle.

Beofett

16:54

lol

bwarner

Back to work I go.

Beofett

@bwarner I guess I should do the same... later

fbueckert

17:06

Speaking of D3...has anyone gotten an email about the grant yet? I hope I'm not the only one waiting for it.

Sterno

I won all the grants. I'll be receiving 20 copies of the game.

fbueckert

@Sterno How can I bribe you to get a copy? :P

Blem

I got an email that my Diablo 3 CE had been send, but nothing about a grant yet

Sterno

@fbueckert I'll accept bribes for $59.99 plus tax.

fbueckert

@Sterno In that case, I can get it faster by walking down the street.

OrigamiRobot

17:10

@Sterno So we have to pay you before you'll even accept other bribes?

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot Correct.

Bribes are also no guarantee of results!

James

So if we get a grant of D3 but do not ask the appropriate number of questions or what not we are not able to participate in the next grant but can do so again in the next round after that one?

Blem

yes

so far i have had no problem reaching the goals

fbueckert

@James That's my understanding of the system.

James

k, wanted to make sure I was reading that right. I originally thought they were just going to compensate us after we made our posts and qualified for it, I did not realise they were doing it upfront until you all just mentioned it and I went back and read the dates.

Hehe, I feel dirty about my dragonvale question regarding butterfly dragons

12k views but only 2 up-votes.. So a lot of people asked that question as well, but pretty much no one thinks it a good question.

agent86

17:19

@bwarner LPMF bought the ME3 strategy guide prior to the contest, since it contained more complete/authoritative info he could use to answer questions during the contest.

I would guess that at least a few people are going to do something similar when the next contest rolls around

Tim Stone

Although sometimes the guide is wrong, heh.

agent86

@James this is indeed the way it works. Screw up and you sit a round out.

James

@agent86 We shall see then I guess.. Though the irony of giving away so much stuff yesterday myself is not lost on me in hoping to win a give away today :D

agent86

@James ah, the James Gaming Grant was in full swing again? ;)

James

@agent86 @fbueckert was in on it too, but I gave away 3 copies of Dino Beatdown, Skyrim and... another game I can not remember any more :D

tiddy

17:23

I couldn't even give away my games

James

Also bought all the movie tickets to The Avengers for my friends last night :D

tiddy

The Valve curse

James

Metro 2033, that was the other game I sent to @Fluttershy

I have been sitting on that copy for a long while too :D

tiddy

I think I received Metro 2033 free when I bought Homefront last year

James

I think that is where I got the extra copy of it as well, I had purchased it earlier

tiddy

17:25

Turned out to be the better game

badp

blargh

James

I liked homefront, it was just very very short in my opinion

I was finally getting into the game and such and then had one more mission and it was over.

tiddy

It was pretty short. I liked the MP

James

I rarely play MP

in FPSes

tiddy

It was a rare divergence from my precious TF2

James

17:26

Haha, Yeah 4000 hours :D

Oh! Saw The Avengers last night. Have to say there are some very very Whedon moments in that movie, and its well worth watching in my opinion :)

fbueckert

@James Yeah; Gnome had mentioned he was interested in a copy if anyone way buying the 4-pack.

'twas fun. We had a small swap meet sorta thing going.

James

@fbueckert Yeah, and then you and I both bought the 4 pack at the same time and well, the rest went that way :D

There is a trading post .. post.. on meta some where.. But it keeps dying. Not a very effective medium for trading games.

OrigamiRobot

@James Hey if you're just giving out free games, don't be afraid to shoot me one. :P

fbueckert

@James I never would've bought it just for myself. Didn't look that interesting. But the four pack was cheap, and it's fun to give stuff away sometimes.

badp

...I didn't realize

Shaun

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starcraft-2 world-of-warcraft bastion league-of-legends tropico-4 game-dev-story minecraft

"I'm the Web Director for En Masse Entertainment, publisher of TERA."

I guess that's quite cool!

also, @Mana, please make me unsee that

James

17:34

@fbueckert The chatter about it yesterday made it seem fun, when I found out it is a co-op game it seemed like a better hold over for borderlands 2 :D

Wipqozn

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Blem

@Wipqozn EPIC!

James

@OrigamiRobot I still have L4D1, A couple of Nuclear Dawns, some DemiGods... Aliens vs Predator... And Bioshock 2 I think just sitting there.

badp

So have the giveaway winners been announced or told?

oh, apparently not quite yet

Lazers

17:50

3

Q: Are there any ways to break rocks without bombs?

Sometimes I have quite a bit of trouble finding bombs or I will need a bomb in order to get more bombs. What ways can I break rocks (via items or enemies) if I have zero actual bombs?

binding-of-isaac

agent86

@badp yeah, so don't blow the surprise that we're stealing all the copies for ourselves.

badp

@agent86 fine, fine :(

I just want to start installing my 6 copies dammit!

That's a lot of data.

agent86

I know, I know! I plan on making a big collage out of all of the CD-keys

badp

I hope it can handle WLAN P2P.

agent86

suddenly, moderators

whenever this many of us are in one place, we have to delete something big. It's like, tradition or something.

Juan Manuel

17:54

la la

agent86

I say we destroy @GraceNote 's account for the lulz

Juan Manuel

I deemed skyrim off topic, everything is gone

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agent86

booyah, moderator abuse highfive

badp

guys, guys, I have a better idea. Mana's gravatar

OrigamiRobot

Mods? In my chat?

FAE

17:57

Avengers time! flees

OrigamiRobot

@FAE It is amazing!

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot I told her this. She was unbelieving.

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy WTF @FAE? Disowned.

badp

She won't like the black widow or whatever she's called

Juan Manuel

I know, who would've thought that Captain America was Tony's real father, right?

badp

17:58

She's definitely the weakest part of the movie for me

Blem

@FAE you found a place or are you watching it in 3D?

Juan Manuel

@badp you must have seen a different movie than me

badp

I hope she's watching 3D.

agent86

a whedon movie with a crappy female character? unpossible :(

Fluttershy

@Blem She's watching 3D. I think she's already gone (hence the flees)

OrigamiRobot

17:59

@badp Yea and they kind of just shoehorned Hawkeye in there too.

Blem

@badp she was looking for a place to watch it in 2D earliger

badp

@JuanManuel oh please. Her two pistols don't scare anybody

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, but Legolas was still pretty badass.

badp

and her mindfucking powers? rather laughable

Juan Manuel

@badp she had pistols?

badp

17:59

she's only a badass in the first five minutes or so

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