The Bridge

7:00 PM

@GnomeSlice If you're asking that question to meet your question quota for whatever promotion or whatnot I suggest you don't count that one

GnomeSlice

@badp Why not?

Ian Pugsley

@James for reference, calling someone a jerk in a public chat isn't going to win you any upvotes

even if they are one

@GnomeSlice because it could get closed

GnomeSlice

@badp where would serial voting rep change be displayed?

James

@IanPugsley I do not see me asking for upvotes anywhere so that doesnt bother me.

GnomeSlice

@IanPugsley WHY.

Grace Note

7:01 PM

@IanPugsley Under what reason?

GnomeSlice

I don't think 'boobs' is, or should be a closing reason.

Ian Pugsley

@GnomeSlice I'm not gonna VTC but others might

GnomeSlice

@IanPugsley I'm not familiar with that term.

Oh, nevermind. I got it.

VoteToClose.

I'm so clever.

@IanPugsley Yep, there's one.

Grace Note

It is a mechanic of the game engine, so it's actually on-topic. It fits in our Q&A format and isn't going to solicit discussion. The question is entirely clear on what it solves. And, unfortunate as it sounds, it's not localized to just @GnomeSlice as far as people who would ask this kind of thing. It's also not a duplicate.

badp

More than "off topic" I'd say it's "too localized"

in the spirit of too localized: "This question is unlikely to ever help any future visitors"

or paraphrased: "who the hell cares?"

(and I don't argue often for using TL)

Grace Note

7:04 PM

@badp Even if we discredit the people who are interested from a mechanical perspective (it is interesting to note whether certain factors are affected by certain changes to the scenario), I don't really think the answer to that is "no one".

GnomeSlice

Why did it just disappear from the home page?

user15026

@GnomeSlice Too many downvotes, most likely

Jason Berkan

@GnomeSlice 5 downvotes.

GnomeSlice

Wow.

badp

@GnomeSlice Score of -5 or lower.

James

7:04 PM

@GnomeSlice Probably all the down votes

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice A question with a lot of downvotes isn't shown on the front page because, well, it's not deemed a useful question.

GnomeSlice

You guys stink.

David B

it's +1-6, for a net of -1 rep so far

Jason Berkan

It's still there at: gaming.stackexchange.com/questions

Grace Note

@DavidB Question upvotes are only +5.

GnomeSlice

7:05 PM

‎"$35 for a fully functional computer (including playing hd video) and extremely open (IO ports all over the place)."

David B

@GraceNote that is correct. (+1*5)-6 = -1

badp

-14 16 secs ago downvote Do Costumes Affect Breast Physics?
+5 10 mins ago upvote Do Costumes Affect Breast Physics?
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/users/3114/gnomeslice?tab=reputation&sort=time

James

@GnomeSlice Is that that Pi computer?

GnomeSlice

OMG, BOOBS, BETTER DOWNVOTE IT.

@James Yes.

James

@GnomeSlice Saw that thing, looked pretty neat.

Jason Berkan

7:06 PM

@DavidB Downvotes are -2.

David B

ah, doh

I flunked votemath :(

GnomeSlice

-9 reps today, so far.

And there's another close vote.

James

Do people who actually sit on this site most of the day use the home page or the questions tab???

GnomeSlice

This is dumb.

badp

@James That's what Lazers is for

14 mins ago, by Lazers

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Q: Do Costumes Affect Breast Physics?

I've noticed that some of the female characters have two widely different costumes available. Do any of these different costumes have an impact on character breast-physics? The most obvious example would be Hilde who wears a suit of armor in her default costume, but not in her secondary costume...

soul-calibur-5

Jason Berkan

7:07 PM

@James Questions tab. I don't want to revisit stuff I've already looked at.

Ullallulloo

@badp 'cept he's slow.

Grace Note

@James Some use Questions, some use the home page. Depends on the site, really.

badp

@Ullallulloo Well if you're chatting that's better than not seeing questions at all

David B

@James I use questions tab but I should really use Lazers

James

@GraceNote This question could however be put under the category of 'We can not tell you why the designers of this game may or may not have changed the physics of the characters depending upon different skins they are given' which have been closed quite often.

Grace Note

7:08 PM

@James He hasn't asked why what happened, he asked if it happens.

badp

@James TBF he's asking "does it?", not "why does/n't it?"

James

@DavidB I also use the questions tab cause some times Lazers is a bit slow.

Grace Note

So, no, it isn't a game design question.

GnomeSlice

Wheee, two more upvotes.

Grace Note

It'd be more like, say, this question.

James

7:09 PM

@badp TBF?

badp

tobefair

James

Ah

David B

@James (in theory) if a question can be well answered by the time Lazers posts it, it didn't really need my help. (in practice) MOAR REP!

James

@GnomeSlice As everyone points out its a valid question.. I just think most people are focusing on the wrong part of the question and therefore downvoting it.

GnomeSlice

@James Story of my life.

badp

7:10 PM

@James I downvoted because it's not a question I want to see more of

plain and simple

Ullallulloo

@James valid=/=good

Grace Note

I think the downvotes are rather justified. I don't think the close votes are entirely.

GnomeSlice

My question about which character outfit was the most revealing got closed, and it was arguably less uncouth than this one.

Ronan Forman

@GraceNote Especially the off-topic one.

Grace Note

It's on topic, and it is a real question.

Just... not one that's really useful. So downvote.

Ronan Forman

7:11 PM

Not constructive maybe. maybe

agent86

@James I use LaServ in an IRC room. I get a little blinking taskbar icon when something happens.

James

@GnomeSlice On the other hand... the common marketing phrase of 'Sex Sells' is true.. I wonder how much more traffic G.SE will get when people search for that game + boobs on google.

GnomeSlice

@James You'd be surprised.

Grace Note

@RonanForman It fits within how the system works. Not Constructive is for handling discussions, opinions, and the like. This question isn't asking about that, it's asking about raw facts.

agent86

it's possible to participate in this site and not cause controversy on a regular basis. just sayin'

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David B

7:12 PM

@James they won't find what they're looking for (pics or videos)

James

@agent86 I am going to start changing your tagline to "I've got an app for that!" man :)

bwarner

:3625495 Keep in mind that if you are asking obviously bad questions just to try to meet the requirements of a gaming grant, you may well contribute to gaming grants being limited or removed. So please carefully consider the consequences of your actions.

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GnomeSlice

@agent86 Oh, okay.

agent86

not that I've got that much experience in this subject though :/ (I've had a few closed questions in my time)

GnomeSlice

@bwarner Bad? Maybe to you.

James

7:14 PM

@DavidB I've started answering questions with youtube videos to counter people suggesting I am lying, hehe..

bwarner

@James I tried using a youtube video to prove someone else was lying once. But it didn't seem to be very successful.

David B

@James funny, the only time I can recall using a youtube video to support an answer, turns out I was wrong.

badp

@James Is that the kind of traffic we want?

GnomeSlice

@agent86 How do things get actioned without controversy?

agent86

@James I have many computers at my dispostal, and they're really fast at a lot of things. a long time ago I learned how to tell them what to do. for me, I can't stop making them do things that they're better at than I am :)

GnomeSlice

7:15 PM

@badp Gamers? Yes.

agent86

@GnomeSlice actioned?

GnomeSlice

@agent86 acted upon?

badp

@GnomeSlice Gamers looking for something to relish their sexual urges on? Nope.

GnomeSlice

I just created my largest bounty ever, so far.

James

@DavidB People did not think you could enchant more than one item under the effect of a potion.. so I made a quick video showing me enchanting 5 of em.. I didnt link to someone else's video, I made one and just liked to that.

I just could not think of another way to prove that..

GnomeSlice

7:16 PM

I'm pretty surprised that question doesn't have more views, considering the popularity of the other Dustforce questions.

agent86

@GnomeSlice I'm not really sure if there's a part of your education or biology that's missing (it's certainly possible, and there's precedent) but most of the time people can understand what is likely to be socially acceptable. If you're not sure if something is, you're welcome to ask. Some days you tend to be squarely in the "acceptable" range, and other times you ride a line. In normal people, we generally label this behavior as trolling or attention seeking.

and let me tell you, many, many people here on the internet are not normal people :)

David B

@James wonder why people wouldn't just accept/try that... wierd. Well, you're probably a more reliable source for your own info than an anon youtuber :)

agent86

I'd wager that most people who spend hours in here daily are not what would be considered normal people

me included :) (in fact, me at the top of the list...)

badp

@agent86 now now go easy with these offensive words. I'm sure no one here is normal here.

James

@agent86 Careful man, calling everyone around you abnormal might be offensive :D

badp

7:19 PM

ugh... normal. shudders

GnomeSlice

Gah, there are only so many questions you can ask about SCV... =/

agent86

@GnomeSlice aren't you past the deadline for that anyhow? I can't recall when that came out or how long the timeline was

@James you sir, are clearly the exception ;)

James

@GnomeSlice They are easy questions.. they might not be true but easy.. Ask for move strats or counter combos between character X and Y...

Ullallulloo

@agent86 Two weeks from when he got it.

James

@agent86 haha :)

agent86

7:20 PM

ask about an achievement that's tricky. maybe there's some easy way of getting it. play a mode you don't know much about, and make notes when you get frustrated.

GnomeSlice

I don't think anybody has asked 8 questions about it.

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice Yes, they have

GnomeSlice

Ah, @Maxx has.

12 of them.

Grace Note

Strix asked 10, Maxx asked 12. Ian's been trudging at 5.

GnomeSlice

So has @StrixVaria.

Ian Pugsley

7:21 PM

@GraceNote I didn't get SCV in the grant so I haven't been asking as much as answering

David B

Asking a good question is one of the hardest things to do on .SE

GnomeSlice

Do I get points for having the highest scoring question for the game?

Ian Pugsley

I've got a question or two left in me for SCV

James

@DavidB Especially considering that if a game is made well there should not be that many questions :D

Ian Pugsley

@GnomeSlice as of now, score doesn't factor in

GnomeSlice

7:23 PM

@GraceNote I've got 5.

badp

How many days left to ME3?

Grace Note

@IanPugsley Oh, yeah, right, you're trudging along in Kingdoms of Amalur.

Kotsu is at 4.

Ian Pugsley

@GraceNote oh yeah, I bombed KoA:R :(

Grace Note

@IanPugsley You could nudge GnomeSlice a hand if you felt nice.

@IanPugsley ...3. Ouch.

David B

@badp 6, not counting today

agent86

7:24 PM

I think I made it to 10 or 12 on KoA, can't recall

GnomeSlice

I haven't had the time to commit to SCV to really get into deep questions.

Hence the boobs.

Grace Note

Your wife has more than enough for the both of you, and you still let her down by not promoting her questions and so Raven won the Vita instead.

GnomeSlice

Boobs are always a good fallback topic.

James

@GnomeSlice If you wanted to tidy up your question a bit to keep people off of the 'boobs' You could replace that with 'soft body physics' since that is what the technology is behind it.

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice It would probably be wiser, then, to wait until you get said time.

Ian Pugsley

7:24 PM

@GraceNote lol harsh

David B

or even "mesh physics"

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote I don't want to leave a 'this guy just wanted the game and screw the site' impression.

Ian Pugsley

@GnomeSlice the entire point of the gaming grant is to provide games to people who can dedicate time to become experts - trying to fill up grant questions with mediocrity betrays the point of the grant in the first place

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice You will do a better job of that by waiting until you can ask good questions than if you ask questions that cause controversy.

Ian Pugsley

I say, not having dedicated time to the game that I got in the grant

GnomeSlice

7:26 PM

@GraceNote Why not do both?

Grace Note

Likewise with what @Ian mentioned - mediocrity is bad, we don't want people to ask for the sake of asking. So please do not do so.

Ullallulloo

@IanPugsley You kind of have to not be an expert since it's just questions. :P

GnomeSlice

I don't usually ask any mediocre questions.

James

@GnomeSlice Cause you would avoid down votes and giving people the impression that you are doing it just for the game.

Grace Note

My point is more the point of "asking for the sake of asking".

Ian Pugsley

7:27 PM

@Ullallulloo I totally disagree; you come up with questions by putting in the time (which makes you an expert)

Ullallulloo

@IanPugsley Putting in time doesn't make you an expert always.

Grace Note

Don't ask questions just because you need to ask questions to fulfill your commitment.

GnomeSlice

@Ullallulloo This.

Ian Pugsley

@Ullallulloo more of an expert than someone who hasn't put the time in

I'm just saying you don't need to be a non-expert

we need both surface-level questions and expert-level questions

Ullallulloo

@IanPugsley Yeah, most likely.

Grace Note

7:29 PM

We do review what actual questions people ask, it's not going to be just a raw "Oh, he had 8, he's clear". So if you think that if you had more time to play the game, get into it, and have real deep questions, then do that.

GnomeSlice

@IanPugsley Heh. 'Surface'.

What kind of world are we living in, where someone who asks about boobs is considered some kind of weirdo? I tell you.

:P

Ronan Forman

Don't feed the trolls @GnomeSlice

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman What?

Nick T

So not-OSHA approved:

Playing "name that mystery organic solvent by smell" with lab manager. The bottle's labeled EtOH but is definitely not (immisc. w/ water).

Tweeted by nicktimko on February 29, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Ian Pugsley

@GnomeSlice people are evaluating it's appropriateness on this site - you aren't getting downvotes because people think you're abnormal, you're getting downvotes because people think it's inappropriate

GnomeSlice

7:31 PM

@IanPugsley Yeah, I know.

Ktash

Hahaha, this game is listed under "Educational" games on Moby... (NSFW language)

mobygames.com/game/fuck-typing

Tim Stone

Ooh, the live updates have rolled out to Gaming.

GnomeSlice

@Ktash HAHAHAHA.

James

@GnomeSlice I think he was referring to the topic being semi-quite and the statement ya made looking to start up discussion about it again... which seems to have worked :)

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria Attack!

GnomeSlice

7:35 PM

@James About what?

Grace Note

Oi

Ronan Forman

@OrigamiRobot How do you feel about us playing on the LP map separately, getting ores and things?

Ian Pugsley

@TimStone yep, just lost 16 whole rep

murgatroid99

I think I gained 10 rep from a vote today and then lost 10 rep from the recalc

GnomeSlice

Also, @GraceNote You're the only surviving mercenary in my Pineapple Smash Crew.

Tim Stone

7:37 PM

@IanPugsley Ah, well that too, but I meant that the front page will automatically update with WebSockety goodness now.

GnomeSlice

Rather unsurprisingly.

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice VINDICATION!

OrigamiRobot

@RonanForman Like doing the more mundane things off camera and/or without all three of us present?

GnomeSlice

You left @RonanForman, @RavenDreamer, and @John to die.

Ian Pugsley

@TimStone that's great and all, but...rep! (Kidding - the web socket stuff is super awesome)

StrixVaria

7:38 PM

I can't believe Gnome asked another asinine question about SCV.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Oh, be quiet.

Ronan Forman

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, and if so, we could ask @ThomasMcDonald to have it as a separate map on his server.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria So, which close reason did you select?

Tim Stone

@IanPugsley I know, I was just trying to take your mind off the horrible tragedy that is the loss of your 16 reps. ;)

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice Not constructive.

OrigamiRobot

7:39 PM

@RonanForman Separate maps mean separate characters.

Tim Stone

Especially since Gaming reps are the best reps.

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice Oh?

user30

hahaha

user30

also, I just lost, er

Grace Note

@StrixVaria You seem to have missed, if that's the case.

Ronan Forman

7:40 PM

@OrigamiRobot I didn't mean separate, I meant instead of you hosting the server.

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote You barely escaped.

Ian Pugsley

@TimStone they aren't too easy to come by for most people

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice Ah, I see

StrixVaria

@GraceNote It deserves to be closed, even if I accidentally the wrong radio button.

user30

I have lost 125 reputation.

Grace Note

7:41 PM

@StrixVaria I think it's something worthy of downvoting, but I don't agree that it actually fits any of our close reasons.

StrixVaria

@GraceNote It's the very definition of not constructive.

There is no actual gaming problem he faces.

David B

@StrixVaria yes, there is no gaming problem.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Says you.

OrigamiRobot

@RonanForman I don't mind any of those things. I think some of the more boring things should be done off camera.

GnomeSlice

I face it every time I play Hilde (which, to be fair, isn't very often.)

James

7:42 PM

@BenBrocka Vita + Mem Card But No WiFi! Arg!!! :)

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman By the way.... any progress on the machinima?

Ben Brocka

Don't have wifi at home or what?

badp

That has to be the best typing game ever

David B

it's like asking if you can make PacMan blue because you don't like yellow.

Ian Pugsley

@StrixVaria to be a total devil's advocate here, picking one costume over another may provide some benefit in a tournament if you're playing against people like @GnomeSlice

user30

7:42 PM

@Ronan er, what you want?

GnomeSlice

@IanPugsley I resent that. But can't really refute it.

user30

@badp waits for flag

user30

oh, that was quick

badp

@ThomasMcDonald no hard feelings.

Ian Pugsley

@GnomeSlice I know it puts you in a rough spot, but honestly that's the only justification for the question's existence

Ronan Forman

7:43 PM

@ThomasMcDonald Would it be possible for you to have a separate map on your server that only john, origami and me can get on for our LP?

user30

@badp Wasn't me. I found it amusing.

GnomeSlice

@IanPugsley Lol.

badp

@ThomasMcDonald I don't know or care.

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice We still need to set a date for building.

Ben Brocka

I never have any idea what's going on in here

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Ullallulloo

7:44 PM

@IanPugsley Aren't trivia questions still on-topic?

Grace Note

@Ullallulloo It's actually more of a mechanics question, not a trivia one.

user30

@Ronan Probably.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka Mission accomplished?

Grace Note

Not one that actually influences your gameplay, though.

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote Says you.

Tim Stone

7:44 PM

@IanPugsley I'm hoping to stock up by posting lots of Mass Effect 3 answers. Not having normal edit privs (or close privs) on a site is bothersome.

Grace Note

@BenBrocka GnomeSlice is defending his latest question, while Ronan is addressing issues of the LP.

Ian Pugsley

@GraceNote it falls into the same boat we talked about recently, of questions whose problem is not gaming-based but whose context is gaming-based

Ullallulloo

@GraceNote Yeah, but if it doesn't have a useful application, it's still pretty a trivia question.

user30

@TimStone I believe I am halfway through my API library challenge now. 4 hours down, 4 to go.

GnomeSlice

I think I speak for everyone when I say I'm often more inclined to use certain moves if jiggly breasts are involved.

Ian Pugsley

7:45 PM

@TimStone yeah, that's the worst :P (I only have VTC on this site)

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice You... don't speak for everyone.

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote Hahahah!

user30

@TimStone great success

Ronan Forman

@ThomasMcDonald Could you have a map with the seed stackgaming up for saturday?

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice No offense, but I don't want you to speak for me.

agent86

7:46 PM

@ThomasMcDonald this reminds me - nobody post any new stack apps today. Wait until tomorrow. I don't want any last-minute entries to cost me a prize :P

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot None taken.

Tim Stone

@ThomasMcDonald Nice! I'm stuck in a teleconference, ugh.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice Why would you need to speak for everyone in making a statement about yourself?

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka Yeah, dunno.

Ben Brocka

Also, while juvenile I see no particular reason why that question should be closed

Ullallulloo

7:47 PM

@BenBrocka I agree.

Lazers

-1

Q: submarine typing game

I've been googling like crazy the last few days and simply can't find the name of this game. It was from the late 80's early 90's. The object was to get the sub to go deeper the faster you typed. It started off with just letters and numbers then it added harder and harder words. I believe it was ...

identify-this-game

0

Q: What is the reason behind deleted post reputation loss?

My very first answer on this site remains my favorite post and largest rep gain in a single post of my SE.career. I was rather proud of it and apparently others liked it too, as it eventually gained me the second awarded Reversal badge of the site. Sure the question was ill concieved but my answ...

discussion reputation

Grace Note

@BenBrocka Aye

GnomeSlice

What is wrong with me, why do I enjoy this so much.

user30

@agent86 :D I have a library to finish and an Omniauth adapter to write tonight.

user30

No application.

user30

7:47 PM

That will wait until next week.

agent86

@ThomasMcDonald NO! procrastinate! PROCRASTINAAAATE

user30

There's a separate prize for library.

agent86

@ThomasMcDonald oh, well, then carry on.

GnomeSlice

Whoa, TONS of new games on Indievania. Including LASER CAT! :D

agent86

slowly though, just in case.

GnomeSlice

7:49 PM

►

James

@GnomeSlice 4chan awaits you with open arms Mr Slice :)

GnomeSlice

@James Hell no, I hate those trolls.

James

@GnomeSlice Then why do you seem to enjoy doing it so much here?

Everything has gone quite.. makes me wonder if I have offended someone...

GnomeSlice

At least I'm not posting shit about ponies.

Pyrodante

So I wonder at what point are game stories complex enough to be discussed on scifi.se. Follow up: If a book is written about a game, where do you ask the question?

Wipqozn

7:53 PM

Ktash

@Pyrodante the second half of that would probably make a good meta question

James

@GnomeSlice Hey man, do not want to see you get suspended over answering a question I asked... I am not sure trying to put other people down is a way of answering it with out that happening...

GnomeSlice

Also, wah, I want this!

2

7:53 PM

swoosh

Ben Brocka

@Pyrodante that is a good question, say the Dead Space novel for example

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice Might want to swap your language there...

Pyrodante

Right.

James

@GnomeSlice What game is that?

GnomeSlice

@James Out there somewhere

I neeeed to stop buying things though.

x_x

James

7:55 PM

@GnomeSlice Looks like a neat stylized platformer :)

The levels remind me of Megaman.. the character, not so much :D

GnomeSlice

> This game is a simple platformer with puzzle and action elements. You play as an astronaut, forced to land in a strange alien planet. Low on fuel, now you need to find some way to get an alien power core and avenge your planet, defeating your arch enemy, Grigori. The main game mechanic is the clever use of a teleportation device, to move around the levels.

N... no more game-buying.

I won't. I won't do it.

I'm not buying this.

Nick T

GnomeSlice

@NickT This is stupid. Gordon Freeman can't speak.

Nick T

Flagged for middle-aged men in their underpants?

GnomeSlice

Also, @badp I know you like music games, and Descend the Beat is 75% off.

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