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4:02 PM
That's why he is the authority on what is and is not stupid.
 
@pixel No.
I say it the correct amount.
I just don't hesitate to say when things are stupid.
 
@InvaderSkoodge Is this stupid?
 
@GnomeSlice It's stupid that you linked me to Newgrounds while I'm at work.
I can't judge the content though.
 
Oh, my bad.
 
@InvaderSkoodge Newgrounds, by default, is stupid. The stuff there that's NOT stupid is incredibly rare.
 
4:07 PM
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Q: How does the action queue work?

WipqoznEvery battle makes use of an action queue to determine the order in which units take their turns, and some units will have more turns to act than others. I know that the ordering and frequency of a units turns are determined by their speed stat, but the manual doesn't go into any details. I'd lik...

 
@fbueckert That's certainly not true, there are quite a number of really amazing artists there.
 
@fbueckert The Brackenwood series is the only reason to ever go to Newgrounds.
 
@OrigamiRobot I stopped going to Newgrounds after I finished college.
 
@OrigamiRobot Funnily enough, I just discovered this series like 10 minutes ago.
 
@GnomeSlice Alas, it has the same stigma that, say, dA has. The vast majority of disappointment that most of the net community observes prevents them from paying attention to the nice stuffs that is buried in there.
 
4:09 PM
@GnomeSlice OMG WHATS WRONG WITH YOU WATCH IT ALL
 
@OrigamiRobot I still disagree though, there is some great stuff, like this. And the audio portal is FULL of awesome shit.
 
4 mins ago, by Invader Skoodge
@GnomeSlice It's stupid that you linked me to Newgrounds while I'm at work.
 
Not sure if you can follow that link.
 
4:12 PM
Plus the entire Blockhead series (which is quite stupid).
 
@fbueckert It has gamer in the URL so I assume no.
 
@fbueckert Ah, a D2 mod?
 
@Wipqozn With all these questions about FFTA2, you REALLY need to play Tactics Ogre:Let Us Cling Together.
 
Three starred messages? Caps lock is cruise control for cool.
 
@SaintWacko Interview with a guy who made a super popular D2 mod.
Never played it, so I don't know if it was any good.
 
4:13 PM
@fbueckert I tried it out, but I ended up liking Eastern Sun better
 
@SaintWacko I just want D3 to have useful crafting.
 
This is awesome
Also full of robots.
 
Currently, the chance of getting something worth anything is on the order of one in a million. Or lower.
 
@fbueckert I just want D3 to be fun
 
@SaintWacko Didn't like the whole grind aspect at all?
 
4:15 PM
@fbueckert I never went to NG religiously. I was an albinoblacksheep kinda guy.
 
@OrigamiRobot Neither did I; it was somewhere to find short, mindless flash games.
When I was bored at school.
 
@fbueckert Nope. I loved D2, but I got to act 2 Hell in D3 and haven't touched it since
 
@fbueckert I mostly go there for the art or audio portals.
 
I stopped about the same time the RMAH released
 
@SaintWacko The interview talks about the itemization quite a bit.
The D3 devs were going for balanced items, rather than fun, ridiculously overpowered items for the levelling grind.
Because they were coming from an MMO viewpoint, not a single player, kill all the things viewpoint.
 
4:19 PM
@fbueckert Yeah, they seem to have tried to base it off of WoW instead of D2
Which was a very stupid way of making a sequel
Part of the awesomeness of D2 was the occasional discovery of some awesome overpowered weapon
It was rare, but it was possible
Not so in D3 :(
 
@SaintWacko It would break the auction house!
 
D3 and GW2 have taught me that I dislike global trade systems.
 
@MartinSojka Fuck the auction house
It's the root of every single damned problem in D3
 
Speaking of which
Art of the day: Temperance
 
@SaintWacko Absolutely not. Lack of an item sink (Ladder) and poor UI are D3's main problem.
 
4:26 PM
People have sleighs.
 
@OrigamiRobot I don't have an issue with those, my issues are that even in single player, you have to deal with latency, and the boring as all get out drop scheme
 
@SaintWacko Neither of those are the AH
 
Although maybe the lack of an item sink affect that
 
The problem is that there isn't really enough difference in what makes "good" vs. "bad" gear for a particular build.
There needs to be more item variety.
 
4:28 PM
@Ullallulloo When they leave chat, you mean? =]
 
@GnomeSlice Yeah.
 
@OrigamiRobot latency is because they don't give you the whole game, they keep part of it on their servers so it's harder to hack and upset the AH
 
@Ullallulloo Yep!
 
I guess it's time to put on my santa hat?
 
boring drop scheme is so they (big surprise) don't upset the AH with OP items
 
4:29 PM
Every class wants the same stats: str/dex/int, vit, attack speed, crit damage, and crit chance.
 
@SaintWacko And yet, people still exploit and hack the game.
 
@SaintWacko If you are playing single player D2 or D3, you're doing it wrong.
 
And resist.
It's boring for items to be placed up against the same scale no matter what the situation.
 
@fbueckert Exactly, it only punishes those who play it legitimately
 
At least monks have some slight difference in that they can stack a single resist.
 
4:30 PM
Just like all security stuff
@OrigamiRobot No, not really
 
@OrigamiRobot That's how I always play.
 
@SaintWacko Yes. Absolutely.
@fbueckert You play wrong.
 
@OrigamiRobot I prefer single player to having to deal with other people.
 
People playing single player D2 experienced 30% of the game.
 
@OrigamiRobot You're outnumbered. Single player is a legitimate way to play
 
4:31 PM
@OrigamiRobot I played D2 starting at level 1 at players 8.
 
@OrigamiRobot What do we miss?
 
Other players slowed me down.
 
@fbueckert Same here
It's too easy otherwise
Of course, Eastern Sun fixes that
 
I am not in any way saying that you should have been playing with other people
I am saying if you weren't on Ladder, you were doing it wrong.
 
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, like I WANT to play a mode where you have to be online.
 
4:32 PM
@OrigamiRobot Now that I know more about it, I do wish I had played on Ladder
 
I loved D2 because I could play it anywhere.
 
@fbueckert Yeah, that would really suck to be forced to play it online
 
@SaintWacko Trading. Runes. Ladder only items and runewords.
 
@SaintWacko That's what Ladder was; only able to be played on Blizzard's servers.
 
@OrigamiRobot You're talking about Ladder, though, not necessarily multiplayer
Misleading!
@fbueckert Yeah, I was making a jab at D3 :P
 
4:34 PM
@fbueckert If you wanna do it wrong, that's your prerogative.
 
@fbueckert Exactly, and you could play locally with friends, over LAN!
 
@SaintWacko I didn't say if you weren't playing multiplayer. I said if you were playing single player.
 
@OrigamiRobot Oh, you meant offline singleplayer
 
Who calls anything else singleplayer in D2?
 
@OrigamiRobot I am amused that you think you know how to play better than I.
 
4:35 PM
Alright, yeah, I can see that, then
 
Isn't that exactly what Blizzard devs are doing?
 
@OrigamiRobot You realize it's possible to play single player on Battle.net?
 
@OrigamiRobot How is online single player not single player?
 
@SaintWacko Playing by yourself != singleplayer
 
@OrigamiRobot What?
Then what does?
 
4:36 PM
@SaintWacko Playing local multiplayer :P
 
To be fair, "online single-player" is idiotic.
 
@MartinSojka Yep
 
In D2, singleplayer is a game mode, not a playing preference.
 
@fbueckert but not surprised, I hope.
 
For some reason the D3 devs seem to have a different opinion
 
4:37 PM
@Wipqozn Nope, not surprised.
 
@OrigamiRobot How would you refer to playing BL2 by yourself?
 
Do I need a big disclaimer that say all these are specifically in reference to D2?
 
@OrigamiRobot Yes.
 
@OrigamiRobot No, this is the same scenario; answer the question. I'm trying to figure out how you define single player
 
@SaintWacko Clicking the single player button.
 
4:39 PM
@OrigamiRobot Oh, so you mean 'playing offline'.
 
@GnomeSlice I mean singleplayer
 
@OrigamiRobot ...So Oblivion doesn't have a single player mode because it doesn't have a single player button?
 
1 min ago, by OrigamiRobot
Do I need a big disclaimer that say all these are specifically in reference to D2?
 
@OrigamiRobot I can play by myself offline or online in a bunch of games.
 
@SaintWacko You can mod one in easily; it's just a line in the XML file for the main UI. :)
 
4:39 PM
12 secs ago, by OrigamiRobot
1 min ago, by OrigamiRobot
Do I need a big disclaimer that say all these are specifically in reference to D2?
 
@OrigamiRobot Oh I get it, so what makes 'single player' what it is depends on the game.
 
@Wipqozn Also, I hope you have a PSP.
 
@MartinSojka Well if we start talking about mods, that completely destroys the whole debate
@GnomeSlice That's what I'm getting out of this
 
@SaintWacko No, what I'm talking about is that it doesn't really matter what's on the button. It's just text.
 
@MartinSojka Exactly!
That was the point I was making. That seemed to be how @OrigamiRobot was defining single player
 
4:42 PM
@fbueckert No.
 
If you played non-BNet D2, you probably have illusions of "build diversity" and the like. You probably put points into Energy. Hah I say!
 
@Wipqozn Well, you're going to have fun trying to play Tactics Ogre without one.
@OrigamiRobot And this is why D2 was mindless, even with the skill point system.
 
@fbueckert And yet still fun.
 
Because there were only a few viable builds, and without min/maxing, you could ruin your build without trying.
 
Well, I played D2 once (without the expansion), to see the story and what the fuss was about. It was ... ok, I guess. Not my kind of game, that's for sure.
 
4:43 PM
@fbueckert That got fixed when they added respecs
@MartinSojka If you played D2 without LoD, you were also doing it wrong :P
 
@OrigamiRobot So...being locked into the same build as everybody else, because that's the only "viable" build makes for fun?
 
@OrigamiRobot That I'll agree with :P
 
That's the whole reason why D3 went the way it did.
 
@OrigamiRobot I like to judge games as they are first, without any expansions or DLCs.
 
@fbueckert This is what I hate about MMOs
 
4:45 PM
@SaintWacko And that sounds exactly like what Ladder D2 was.
 
Before long people figure out the absolute best way to do everything, and then everthing becomes bland
 
@MartinSojka Well, vanilla D2 was only fun before the expansion existed.
 
So, no. I was not playing it wrong.
 
@fbueckert I never played Ladder. That's too bad
 
@fbueckert I didn't say that made it fun. I am saying it was fun in spite of that.
 
4:45 PM
We should make a diablo chatroom. :P
Also, I'm pretty sure I wrecked my Torchlight alchemist build.
=[
 
That's what "And yet" means.
 
Speaking of MMOs, breaking your builds and respecs: I very much liked how UO did it. If you wanted to re-spec, you just un-learned some of your skills and practised the new ones.
 
@OrigamiRobot We have different definitions of fun, I think.
 
WHAT THE FUCK WINDOWS, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS SHIT AGAIN
 
Oct 18 at 12:06, by OrigamiRobot
Oh oh oh! Lets have a huge argument about whether it's called Hide and Seek or Hide and Go Seek
 
4:47 PM
@fbueckert That's fine. I'm glad you had fun in non-Hell D2.
 
@OrigamiRobot It's obviously Hide and Seek.
@GnomeSlice Because it hates you?
 
@Wipqozn Yea, I know. Seriously who calls it that other thing?
 
FUCKING FUCK
 
@OrigamiRobot Seriously, dude? You have to belittle my choice? Let's not go there, alright?
 
I have to reboot I guess.
Because it won't let me edit this file it says I don't have permission.
Even though I have all the permission I need. It's not even restricted.
 
4:48 PM
@GnomeSlice Run as admin
 
All this talk is making me want to play Diablo 2.
 
@Krazer I tried all that shit man
When it asks for administrator permission and I give it it thinks for a bit and then decides I can't do it anyway.
 
@fbueckert I am only making the point that unless you played those specific builds, you were not in Hell and therefore did not experience all the game.
 
This happened once before with my php
 
@GnomeSlice sorry man. what kind of file is it?
 
4:49 PM
@Krazer PHP
 
@OrigamiRobot You could play in Hell without those builds.
 
Happened once before too.
Can't move it, rename it, or edit it.
Shitting Fuck
brb rebooting
 
@GnomeSlice That's quite the swear.
 
@fbueckert I don't know what patch you were playing then.
 
@OrigamiRobot Probably people who don't remember when it was called "All Hid". :)
 
4:51 PM
@OrigamiRobot The latest, whatever that was.
It might not have been as efficient, but you could still play something that wasn't min/maxed perfectly, and still have fun.
 
@fbueckert You don't have to min max perfectly to be playing a set build.
 
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Q: After replacing Scene, the Schedule method doesn't work anymore (cocos2dx)

user1892185I'm making a game in cocos2dx , so I've made a class named "CoCoGui" and also I've made an IntroPage Class that inherits from CCLayerColor for the intro page of the game and a Start Page Class that it's been inheritted from CCLayerColor, too. I want to show the intro page for the first 2 seconds ...

 
@OrigamiRobot You're missing the point.
I played a summoning Necromancer through Hell. It wasn't easy, because Act bosses would just kill all my guys, but it WAS possible.
And I didn't have to look up a build prior to starting.
 
@fbueckert Minion Masters <3
 
Yea, summoning was a viable build. They sucked though because they cause so much lag :P
 
4:54 PM
@OrigamiRobot Not a problem when I was playing Single Player.
 
Is it just me, or is Gmail really fucked?
 
It's down for everyone.
 
@GraceNote Thanks
Chrome just crashes trying to load it
 
@fbueckert Just because you picked a good build independently doesn't mean anything.
 
@OrigamiRobot Ideally, ANY build you choose should be viable.
Being shoehorned into a small subset of "viable" builds shows exactly where D2 fails.
 
4:58 PM
@Krazer So I tried to delete it to replace it with a backup copy, and it wouldn't let me. I rebooted, and it's gone.
 
@fredley WHAT?
 
Weird.
 
OMG Google is down the world is ending HALP!!!11111one
 
And now it's... not working.
 
@fbueckert eh, I disagree. Any skill should be viable, but not any build. Part of the fun in those games is coming up with builds that work.
 
4:58 PM
@fbueckert I never said it wouldn't be better if that were the case. I said D2 was fun in spite of that.
 
Is YouTube working, at least? Can we watch Rebecca Black and LOLCATs?
 
The hell, why can't they 'retrieve dynamically related files' now?
 
@Wipqozn Also this.
 
Oh wait, wamp isn't running.
 
@Wipqozn So long as there's no way to irreversably change your build, I agree with that.
 
4:59 PM
@fbueckert D3 isn't much better
 

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