The Bridge

pixel

12:23 PM

eugh, no guild wars 2 today

the change in internet connectivity config lastnight has broken my vpn

Lazers

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Q: Will I lose Anarchy when I respec?

I've been building Gaige with the smaller, lighter, faster skills, but now that I've found an Infinity, I'd like to respec so I can use it. However, I don't want to lose all my anarchy stacks. Will respeccing make me lose all my anarchy?

borderlands-2

OrigamiRobot

12:48 PM

@pixel :(

badp

I wish there was a cap to the respawn fees in BL2

Losing $60k to a single death is a major turnoff and makes me ragequit every time

LessPop_MoreFizz

I wish I could troubleshoot video games while working. :(

pixel

@LessPop_MoreFizz I can't

I know why as well

as a result of my router dying on me

I'm now using PPPoE to establish my connection

but because it's been like 10 years since I last had to

I didn't "share" the PPPoE connection

so no traffic routes over my formally working VPN

and thus GW2 can't establish a connection to the server

which means I can't play games from work today

because in order to fix it, I need to disconnect from said PPPoE connection

and then reconnect

which I obviously can't do, as I am not at home...

Martin Sojka

Writing a script to fix it and restart the network connection, then running the script in "screen" or similar isn't an option?

pixel

and thus, I am going to blame @Wipqozn

Lazers

12:57 PM

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Q: Will Path of Exile accounts be wiped after beta?

I'm thinking on supporting Path of Exile to get a Beta testing key. However I want to know whether the account/characters are being wiped after beta. This is important to determine how much time I should invest on Beta.

path-of-exile

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Q: Community Promotion Ads - 2013

As it is December 2012, we are now going to reset our Community Promotion Ads for the new year. What are Community Promotion Ads? Community Promotion Ads are community-vetted advertisements that will show up on the main site, in the right sidebar. The purpose of this question is the vetting pro...

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pixel

@MartinSojka no, I'm not convinced I "saved" the connection details, which would require me to actually click on a button somewhere on the screen

Martin Sojka

Silly GUI-driven network configuration. Who the hell ever thought it was a good idea?

pixel

@MartinSojka Microsoft

even more so, because I made my connection work, BT got confused and diagnosed it as "no fault", even though there is obviously a fault

OrigamiRobot

@pixel Am I missing something about legendary weapons? They seem... not that good. Unless you wanna be tanky.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot who knows, I looked at what was needed to make one and decided I didn't need to know more until about 6-12 weeks from now

in fact

no, I'm not sure what the point of them is

probably unique models

OrigamiRobot

1:08 PM

whoa whoa whoa

pixel

for example

OrigamiRobot

I can be a D/D Fire Elementalist...

want

pixel

I am currently using a bow made from Huntsman crafting

level 80, damage: 905-1000, 2x +128 <stat>, 1x + 179 <stat> upgrade slot, shortbow

Then if you compare that to The Dreamer

level 80, damage 905-1000, 2x +128, 1x +179, upgrade slot, shortbow

badp

Arkanoid on a circle really is bullshit

pixel

@OrigamiRobot you re-rolling already?

OrigamiRobot

1:14 PM

No, I don't even know if that build is viable.

I can't do all this skill management.

pixel

wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Kudzu#Graphics

iWantThatOne

Invader Skoodge

That looks completely impractical.

pixel

it's a bow made out of flowers

it leaves a trial of flowers as you move

birds sing while the arrows are in flight

I don't see anything impractical about it

OrigamiRobot

14 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

@pixel Am I missing something about legendary weapons? They seem... not that good. Unless you wanna be tanky.

Invader Skoodge

I just meant aesthetically.

pixel

1:17 PM

@OrigamiRobot they're all aesthetic upgrades

@OrigamiRobot the stats are pretty much identical

OrigamiRobot

They all have power/toughness/vit

pixel

so?

I could make a bow with power/toughness/vit

OrigamiRobot

Yea, but you can make weapons with other stats.

pixel

I chose to make my bow with precision/condition damage/power

just like all of my other gear

which is why when I get scaled to low level I have 80+% crit chance

OrigamiRobot

@pixel Right, you can't have a legendary with those stats.

pixel

1:19 PM

@OrigamiRobot you could probably transmute them onto it

OrigamiRobot

So legendaries are purposefully terrible as a resource sink.

pixel

well I imagine that vit/toughness has a use in dungeons etc

I'm pretty sure we should be able to 2 man the group kills

its whether swapping DPS stats for survivability stats is what is actually needed to achieve that

like the last one we died on would have died if we had both dodged more tbh

OrigamiRobot

I just want a build where I don't have to keep track of a million keys.

pixel

that's a bit of an exaggeration

there are only 10 skills

Invader Skoodge

On Guardian at least F1-F3 are also relevant.

pixel

1:25 PM

I bound 1-6 to my mouse, and 7-10 to zxqe

Invader Skoodge

I use 1-5 and zxcvb.

pixel

and f2 on my mouse

since that is petspecial

OrigamiRobot

I don't want any of the F keys!

pixel

F is interact

Y U NO INTERACT?!

Invader Skoodge

It still boggles my mind that the default keys in Diablo 2 were F1-F8

OrigamiRobot

1:26 PM

2 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

I just want a build where I don't have to keep track of a million keys.

Invader Skoodge

How did that feel like an appropriate setup ever?

pixel

@InvaderSkoodge mousewheel victory

if you bound f1-f8 you could scroll up and down with mousewheel to swap

Invader Skoodge

@pixel I used asdfqwer, since there was no wasd move in that game.

pixel

i just used mousewheel

f5-7 were buffs, f8 was teleport, f1 was ice orb, f2-4 were other attacks that never really got used because of how amazing ice orb was

Lazers

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Q: How to set a wide resonator spread radius for a portal?

I noticed that portals have different resonator spread radius and it does not seem it depends on the level of resonators. The farther resonators apart the more difficult it is for enemies to take over the portal How can I make sure I get the biggest spread radius possible?

ingress

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Q: Does Retaliation counts on blocked / mitigated damage?

As a guardian, i have some skills that might grant me retaliation, which is very good against burst classes. The question is, if i "Block" (Aegis for example) a attack , will the other player still take the damage that should have damaged me, back ? The wiki link says it does, but i'm not sure ...

guild-wars-2

OrigamiRobot

1:29 PM

@pixel F1: Teleport, Space: Conviction, the rest is irrelevant as I only need to cast it in town

pixel

this is all @Wipqozn's fault

OrigamiRobot

I can bind two skills to Q and E and one to middle click

that's as good as it's going to get for me

pixel

I have so many buttons on my mouse

I could bind 22 different things to my mouse, I think

OrigamiRobot

I hate extra buttons on mice. I have an extra button on each side of my mouse, but they are completely useless

pixel

you're doing it wrong

OrigamiRobot

1:33 PM

My hand does not rest in such a way to use them

Invader Skoodge

The only extra buttons I have on my mouse are forward and back.

pixel

cyborggaming.com/fr/prod/mmo.htm

Invader Skoodge

I can't remember the last time I used them.

OrigamiRobot

@pixel Ugh that looks disgusting

I can't play GW2 with you anymore.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot sadface

@OrigamiRobot sure, I'm not a huge orange fan, but I can resize it to fit my hands

OrigamiRobot

1:36 PM

Too many buttons.

Any more than 3 is too many.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot anything more complicated than an iPhone is too much for you...

Anto

Hey everyone !
Just saw and ad about Nuclear Dawn on Arqade; does it worth the shot ?

OrigamiRobot

@pixel Don't even get me started on that route.

fredley

grrrrrr IE

pixel

@OrigamiRobot well I'm sorry that our friendship ended over my choice of mouse. If it's any consolation I already have your replacement in training.

OrigamiRobot

1:40 PM

I have 8 fingers available for buttons. Every number of keys required past 8 is a point against the game.

One hand is normally for the mouse. So you get 5 keys.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot you never played World of Warcraft, did you?

OrigamiRobot

No, partially for this reason.

pixel

I had something like 50 bindings in WoW

OrigamiRobot

I would vomit.

Anto

http://www.logitech.com/assets/15994/15994.png
Nothing will ever be better than Logitech MX500/MX518/G500 to me.

pixel

1:42 PM

and at any given point during combat, had about 0.5-1 seconds of time to correctly hit the correct one

OrigamiRobot

@pixel I don't wanna learn sleight of hand just to play a game.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot even solitaire has a timer on it

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot You should spend more time on consoles, then. ♪

OrigamiRobot

I don't have a TV

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot Sounds like you should build one.

OrigamiRobot

1:45 PM

Consoles reduce the available fingers to 4-6

Grace Note

Most gamepads only have 4 buttons at most that you access with your non-thumbs.

OrigamiRobot

Any time I have to move my fingers off one button to access another is awful

I will invariably need to press the button I just let go of.

Anto

@OrigamiRobot psychomotor troubles ?

pixel

I want to say lazy, but honestly don't know, and don't want to upset him, and thus end up typing out a huge disclaimer which detracts from the comedic one-worder that I was aiming for in the first place

thus I blame @Wipqozn

Grace Note

I can understand where he's coming from, even if it's alien to me as a console gamer.

Tim Stone

1:49 PM

@pixel Your request for blaming @Wipqozn has been reviewed and approved. Happy blaming!

pixel

anything on the left side of the keyboard is fair game for binding

qwertasdfgzxcvb shift + alt + control + tab + `12345

Grace Note

Basic tenet is being able to access every capability at all times. Each functionality of your character can be performed at a moment's notice because each functionality can be done independent of another.

pixel

then another 22 bindings on the mouse

perfectly sufficent to play any game

Tim Stone

@GraceNote Just have to have quick fingers :P

Grace Note

Having to use the same digit to perform multiple tasks means that any time spent doing one of those tasks is time that cannot be used to perform any of the others, which may or may not be fatal.

OrigamiRobot

1:51 PM

@GraceNote This

pixel

@GraceNote only if your key bindings have no thought behind them

Grace Note

@pixel You're looking at accessibility from a different perspective, though. You're looking at how things can be placed within reach of the one hand as a mobile unit capable of accessing more than one function at a time.

OrigamiRobot

2 mins ago, by Grace Note

Basic tenet is being able to access every capability at all times. Each functionality of your character can be performed at a moment's notice because each functionality can be done independent of another.

Grace Note

That's the basic fundamental design of a gamepad - the majority of action is performed using only one digit (thumb), moving within its accessible range to perform what actions are necessary for any given moment.

I'm comfortable with this design theory, you're comfortable with this design theory, but OrigamiRobot is not. It's not necessarily something like psychomotor issue, just that's how OrigamiRobot thinks the design should be for his maximum enjoyment. It's similar to how I prefer things that can translate to a gamepad over using the majority of keys, even though I understand keyboard play's vastly larger capability to enable multiple action keying.

(Don't ask @badp about Chantelise's controls)

badp

dammit, how'd you bust me? I was just reading through the backlog

Grace Note

1:57 PM

I'm always aware of these things. ♪

badp

Actually you probably remember more about my opinion of Chantelise's controls than I do

was it because you use something like Q and E to turn instead of the mouse?

Grace Note

Yes.

badp

Sounds like something that would make me unhappy, yeah.

Lazers

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Q: Is there a block that spider can't climb

I want to build a wall. The spider can climb the wall. I am wondering if is there a block that spider can't climb?

minecraft

badp

Ooooh, new round of promotion ads

@OrigamiRobot You must love those games where space jumps, activates doors, ducks, rolls, scrolls, hacks, ...

(ALL YOU DO IS PRESS ONE BUT TEN THE ENTIRE TIME)

(+typos)

Grace Note

2:03 PM

Pfff

Invader Skoodge

@pixel And also Capslock, if you're playing Darksiders.

In order to use a skill in Darksiders with the keyboard, you have to hold capslock and press 1-4.

badp

what

Invader Skoodge

That's why I'm not playing it until I get a gamepad.

Tim Stone

@InvaderSkoodge That sounds terrible, why would they do that? >_>

badp

I'm not planning to get a gamepad. There's no such thing as a boss key if you're holding a gamepad in your hands!

Invader Skoodge

2:06 PM

@TimStone The console probably originally had some mechanic like "hold the trigger button and press a face button", which makes sense. Then during the port, the developers were too lazy to change the "hold x and press y" mechanic, so they found the nearest unmapped button to hold.

Tim Stone

Heh

Invader Skoodge

It's stupid, anyway.

badp

Reminds me of Half Minute Hero, the PC port

"YOU CAN REBIND KEYS!"

Invader Skoodge

Does that game use szxc instead of wasd?

badp

no, it uses arrows for movement.

The Stack Exchange Blog

2:09 PM

Blog - Stack Exchange: Announcing the Apptivate.MS competition semi-finals

Abby T. Miller on December 10, 2012

When we announced the Apptivate.MS competition two months ago, we were hoping that a few members of this community would create and submit a few solid Windows 8 apps – forty or fifty, maybe. A hundred if it really went well.

So when we saw all of the high-quality and innovative app submissions that poured in, we were quite frankly blown away. The Stack Overflow community submitted almost 400 apps. See for yourself!

Yet again, the Stack Overflow community has crushed it.

The quality and size of the submission pool made our next job really, really difficult: narrowing them down to just 50 app …

badp

btw, for those who watched the video of TotalBiscuit's and still don't know how you do leave that menu

Invader Skoodge

Oh I haven't played a game with arrows for movement since emulating final fantasy games for SNES.

OrigamiRobot

@badp No, in fact, I hate those.

badp

you can either close the red X on the window, or select the "Settings" item

unlike the rest of the game, you leave the dialogue by selecting the "header"

@InvaderSkoodge arrows + zxc is kind of a popular keybinding scheme

SaintWacko

@TheStackExchangeBlog I wish they'd have a competition like this to make a nice SE android app

badp

2:11 PM

like, most japanese shooters have arrows for momevement, z for fire and x for bomb.

(those that I've tried, anyway)

c for something else, depends on the game. Mana, kittens, whatever.

SaintWacko

Usually kittens

badp

Yeah.

Then you have the leaderboards for most kittening

Z CHICKEN
X KITCHEN
C KITTEN
ARROWS MOVE

ULTIMATE CONTROL SCHEME EVER

SaintWacko

@badp I would so love to hear all these hardcore gamers hanging out talking about kittening

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote I think it's very much a psychomotor issue. In the face of vast amounts of simulti, hand/eye coordination diminishes. Therefore, when there is a lot going on (combat) I need to not have to move where my fingers are on the keyboard.

Invader Skoodge

@badp Sounds like a Peter Molyneux game.

SaintWacko

2:19 PM

@InvaderSkoodge Is that cube thing open yet?

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko Not as of last night.

badp

@SaintWacko I suppose people stopped giving a shit about it now

SaintWacko

@badp Yeah, I just remembered it when @Invader mentioned Peter Molyneux

OrigamiRobot

It's spouting beams of light whatever that is supposed to mean.

badp

@OrigamiRobot It's trying to desperately catch your attention then. How many layers left?

Invader Skoodge

2:21 PM

@badp Part of the mystery is that they aren't saying how many layers it has.

But apparently they will make it clear when it's the last layer.

OrigamiRobot

I don't know. I open it, tap some cubes, and then turn it off thinking "why do I even have this installed?"

SaintWacko

@InvaderSkoodge Maybe it's infinite

badp

@InvaderSkoodge ...okay, how many layers are done?

Is there no status control page or something?

OrigamiRobot

@badp 72 I think.

Invader Skoodge

There's a page in the app you can go to to see how many layers are gone.

SaintWacko

2:22 PM

@badp That would remove the mystery :D

Invader Skoodge

I haven't opened the app in close to a month, though.

badp

"LIVE TAPPENING CONTROL ROOM"

SaintWacko

@InvaderSkoodge Geez, it's been around that long already?

Invader Skoodge

@SaintWacko It launched about during the hurricane.

I played it during the hurricane because I had nothing else to do.

badp

...doesn't it require internet connectivity?

Invader Skoodge

2:23 PM

I played it when I was at my fiancee's parents' house, who had power and such.

I didn't have any other entertainment than my phone and kindle, and reading for 16 hours a day gets old.

badp

ah.

Invader Skoodge

Although tapping cubes got old too.

And much faster than reading.

badp

You could've had your fiancee. :P

as in... talking to her, baking something together.

Invader Skoodge

:)

Well she was also tapping cubes next to me. Does that count :P

fbueckert

Good morning, Bridge

SaintWacko

2:24 PM

@InvaderSkoodge So, you were tapping that?

OrigamiRobot

INAPPROPRIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE

badp

@InvaderSkoodge that's kind of... sad, but yeah, it counts :P

were you at least tapping the same side?

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot What, we're talking about that cube!

Invader Skoodge

@OrigamiRobot I want to hear Lemon Grab scream this.

OrigamiRobot

Me too :(

SaintWacko

2:29 PM

Anyone here tried out Ingress?

Wipqozn

@fbueckert Good Morning fellow Canadian!

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn I am now level 51 and we have done ZERO DUNGEONS

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Well that's upsetting.

pixel

@Wipqozn indeed

wtb dungeons

OrigamiRobot

I think I can bind dodge to mousewheel up or down and have an easier time.

pixel

2:39 PM

@OrigamiRobot I still use double tap dodge

I've only plummeted to my death during a jumping puzzle once

OrigamiRobot

The double tap is unreliable and V is far from mapped in my brain as a control.

pixel

I also have it bound to mouse5

OrigamiRobot

Maybe Shift. Is shift anything normally?

pixel

run/walk toggle

OrigamiRobot

ugh who uses that anyway

pixel

2:41 PM

I do, during jumping puzzles

do you have a problem with that?

OrigamiRobot

ALWAYS RUN ALL THE TIME IN EVERY GAME EVER

@pixel I have a problem with everything. It's how I was programmed.

pixel

I am now >40% through world completion too

I'd be even further if I didn't keep falling asleep at night

damned sleep holding me back

@OrigamiRobot hacks programming to replace all pessimist routines with optimism routines

OrigamiRobot

HELLO I LOVE YOU

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Martin Sojka

@pixel Great. Now he still has a problem with everything, but he's happy about it.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot HELLO I L U 2

OrigamiRobot

2:45 PM

BRILLIANT OBSERVATION @MARTIN. YOU ARE THE BEST

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SaintWacko

@pixel I disable double tap to dodge during jumping puzzles

Otherwise I tend to try to move precisely, and instead dive wildly off the edge

pixel

@SaintWacko never had that problem though really

OrigamiRobot

I LOVE JUMPING PUZZLES

pixel

the first time I did it ever was lastnight

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot ME TOO

pixel

2:47 PM

while on a jumping puzzle to get a skill point in the straits of devastation

SaintWacko

@pixel Jumping puzzles are awesome

pixel

got right to the top and then dived off

I found the funny side in it

SaintWacko

@pixel Ouch

pixel

my characters' face didn't find the funny side though

OrigamiRobot

BRB READING THE XKCD ABOUT LOVING THINGS

pixel

2:48 PM

It took several in game hours for the pale tree to reconstruct my face

SaintWacko

@pixel It can be pretty far down

@pixel Wait, what?

pixel

@SaintWacko well this one is quite high up, I don't think there is any way down other than a well placed jump into the water

@SaintWacko borderline RP overload? :p

SaintWacko

@pixel Ah, okay. I thought it was some Sylvari thing. I haven't played as Sylvari

OrigamiRobot

Can I switch the weapon skill locations?

pixel

@SaintWacko yes it was

@OrigamiRobot not that I've seen, just change the bindings ftw

SaintWacko

2:51 PM

@pixel Well, I meant a Sylvari game mechanic

pixel

I know, not the same as actually moving them...

@SaintWacko lol no, we just select a waypoint like everybody else

SaintWacko

Like maybe when you die, it shows damage on your character, which regrows, or something

pixel

that would be a good idea though

OrigamiRobot

@pixel That might mess up later characters

pixel

@OrigamiRobot you should worry about how to play your first character first!

it would be nice if you could rearrange your skill bar though

OrigamiRobot

2:52 PM

@pixel Well, it messes up my thief too.

pixel

definitely going with mesmer next though

OrigamiRobot

I never want to use 4 D/D and every time I try to use 5, I press 4 instead.

pixel

get it to level 30 before leaving the start area

Invader Skoodge

@OrigamiRobot Remap 4 to 5 and 5 to 4.

OrigamiRobot

But I should use 4 on my SB more often.

Invader Skoodge

2:53 PM

That won't be confusing at all.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot remap 5 to z or x

or q

or e

OrigamiRobot

I need Q and E for two of my 6-0 skills

and I will never use z or x

pixel

I have 'heal' bound to mouse 3

1 is bound to 1 and mouse 6

2 is bound to 2 and mouse 7

OrigamiRobot

I don't "use" my heal skill. It is passive.

pixel

3 is bound to 3 and mouse 8

etc etc

PASSIVE HEALING SKILLZ?!!!?

why are you even complaining, you don't use half of your abilities anymore!

OrigamiRobot

2:55 PM

Signet of Malice

pixel

you know that ability has an 'active' on use as well right?

did you know that?

DID YOU KNOW?

You can perform this action again in 4 seconds - retry / cancel

OrigamiRobot

Yea, but when you use it, you don't get the passive until it cools down.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot Its ok, I'm now using a bit ground effect heal

so you can just stand in that and get more heals

I'm thinking about changing my longbow sigil for 'on crit chance to heal allies'

since I crit so much

OrigamiRobot

Currently, I only use 6-0 if I actually click the icons. It's gross.

pixel

did you just say "click", as in "you click your action bars" ?

Invader Skoodge

2:57 PM

@OrigamiRobot Seriously remap that shit.

OrigamiRobot

YES AND IT IS GROSS I HATE IT

Invader Skoodge

Before I even started playing, I saw 6-0 and immediately started looking for replacement mappings.

OrigamiRobot

@InvaderSkoodge I don't have many options.

Scroll can be dodge, that makes sense. Mouse 3 can be my Elite.

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